I discovered some ancestors graves in MI, and I am indebted to whomever chose the information to be engraved. Two generations who left Poultney, VT in the 1830's. Each stone has birth, death dates. Each wife's stone has her maiden name, one has her parents names. One stone says "Born in Poultney, VT". I'm the first one to come along in over a hundred years looking for these folks. What a gift to leave behind. Theresa in Oregon Theresa> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:45:14 -0400> From: chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? P.S.> > I have a situation where there 3 generations over 60 years in the > same plot. It would seem that lacking other documentation this might be > a legitimate record.> > > Stuart Perkins wrote:> > While gravestones often confirm suspected birth/death dates, and> > occasionally confirm marriages when they mention spouses, they don't> > often confirm parentage (except in the case of infant deaths) and as> > such are not of much use in genealogy. Confirmation that a particular> > individual existed does not imply relationships. Other documentary> > evidence of lineage, such as birth records and/or wills/land records are> > necessary and logical. It ain't rocket science.> > - > > Stuart Perkins> > stuartperkins@usa.net> >> >> >> > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 17:37 -0400, Susan E. Roser wrote:> > > >> Carol,> >>> >> After reading my post, I don't believe I was clear enough. If birth,> >> marriage and death records are available from record offices for the years> >> and geographic areas you are dealing with, then you will need to obtain> >> them. Only when these records are not available (i.e., if vital statistics> >> were not recorded until a certain date), will other types of records be> >> accepted.> >>> >> If you have any other questions regarding documentation for Mayflower> >> membership, please feel free to email me privately. (I believe we are "off> >> topic" :) > >>> >> Susan (roser@iprimus.ca) > >>> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > >>> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com]> >> On Behalf Of Susan E. Roser> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:28 PM> >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry?> >>> >> Carol,> >>> >> If death records are not available, then gravestone photos are accepted. If> >> a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the> >> gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note> >> that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage,> >> therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which> >> name parents.> >>> >> Susan E. Roser> >> Historian> >> Canadian Mayflower Society> >>> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > >>> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com]> >> On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM> >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry?> >>> >> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to> >>> >> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? 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I have a situation where there 3 generations over 60 years in the same plot. It would seem that lacking other documentation this might be a legitimate record. Stuart Perkins wrote: > While gravestones often confirm suspected birth/death dates, and > occasionally confirm marriages when they mention spouses, they don't > often confirm parentage (except in the case of infant deaths) and as > such are not of much use in genealogy. Confirmation that a particular > individual existed does not imply relationships. Other documentary > evidence of lineage, such as birth records and/or wills/land records are > necessary and logical. It ain't rocket science. > - > Stuart Perkins > stuartperkins@usa.net > > > > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 17:37 -0400, Susan E. Roser wrote: > >> Carol, >> >> After reading my post, I don't believe I was clear enough. If birth, >> marriage and death records are available from record offices for the years >> and geographic areas you are dealing with, then you will need to obtain >> them. Only when these records are not available (i.e., if vital statistics >> were not recorded until a certain date), will other types of records be >> accepted. >> >> If you have any other questions regarding documentation for Mayflower >> membership, please feel free to email me privately. (I believe we are "off >> topic" :) >> >> Susan (roser@iprimus.ca) >> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com >> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Susan E. Roser >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:28 PM >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? >> >> Carol, >> >> If death records are not available, then gravestone photos are accepted. If >> a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the >> gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note >> that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage, >> therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which >> name parents. >> >> Susan E. Roser >> Historian >> Canadian Mayflower Society >> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com >> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? >> >> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to >> >> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or >> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >> >> Thank you, >> Carol from Arizona >> >> >> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1516 - Release Date: 6/24/2008 7:53 AM >

While gravestones often confirm suspected birth/death dates, and occasionally confirm marriages when they mention spouses, they don't often confirm parentage (except in the case of infant deaths) and as such are not of much use in genealogy. Confirmation that a particular individual existed does not imply relationships. Other documentary evidence of lineage, such as birth records and/or wills/land records are necessary and logical. It ain't rocket science. - Stuart Perkins stuartperkins@usa.net On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 17:37 -0400, Susan E. Roser wrote: > Carol, > > After reading my post, I don't believe I was clear enough. If birth, > marriage and death records are available from record offices for the years > and geographic areas you are dealing with, then you will need to obtain > them. Only when these records are not available (i.e., if vital statistics > were not recorded until a certain date), will other types of records be > accepted. > > If you have any other questions regarding documentation for Mayflower > membership, please feel free to email me privately. (I believe we are "off > topic" :) > > Susan (roser@iprimus.ca) > > www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > > www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Susan E. Roser > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:28 PM > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > > Carol, > > If death records are not available, then gravestone photos are accepted. If > a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the > gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note > that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage, > therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which > name parents. > > Susan E. Roser > Historian > Canadian Mayflower Society > > www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > > www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > > Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to > > show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or > are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". > > Thank you, > Carol from Arizona > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol, After reading my post, I don't believe I was clear enough. If birth, marriage and death records are available from record offices for the years and geographic areas you are dealing with, then you will need to obtain them. Only when these records are not available (i.e., if vital statistics were not recorded until a certain date), will other types of records be accepted. If you have any other questions regarding documentation for Mayflower membership, please feel free to email me privately. (I believe we are "off topic" :) Susan (roser@iprimus.ca) www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan E. Roser Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:28 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? Carol, If death records are not available, then gravestone photos are accepted. If a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage, therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which name parents. Susan E. Roser Historian Canadian Mayflower Society www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". Thank you, Carol from Arizona

Carol, If death records are not available, then gravestone photos are accepted. If a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage, therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which name parents. Susan E. Roser Historian Canadian Mayflower Society www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". Thank you, Carol from Arizona **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Richard, Thanks for the reminder that the compiler put the ae 76 on her Sarah Soule and not Adam Wright. Source: The George Soule Family Generation III pg 14-15 I am on a "time constraint" right this minute and will check out the two descendants that you mentioned. Thanks for keeping on the up and up. Lynde C. Randall ----- Original Message ----- From: <mayflower-request@rootsweb.com> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:00 AM Subject: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 88> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 75 (Richard Hayes) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:33:58 -0400 > From: "Richard Hayes" <RichardAHayes@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 75 > To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <807E44B26A1E46BBB6E8E214A50257A3@RichardPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Lynde, > > You have: > >> 2 Sarah [6139] Soule b: ca 1660 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: Bet. 1693 - >> 1699>> in Plymouth, MA aged 76 .... +Adam Wright b: ca 1645 in Plymouth, >> MA d: 20>> Sep 1724 in Plymouth, MA m: Bef. 1680 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA > > If Sarah was born ca 1660 and died bet. 1693-1699, how could she be 76 > when > she died? > > I have Lydia Weston Delano's birth date as 31 Jul 1679. I also have > Josiah > Soule as a twin brother of Joseph Soule. > > Thank you for all of the information. > > Richard > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MAYFLOWER list administrator, send an email to > MAYFLOWER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MAYFLOWER mailing list, send an email to > MAYFLOWER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 88 > ****************************************

Hi Lynde, You have: > 2 Sarah [6139] Soule b: ca 1660 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: Bet. 1693 - > 1699 > in Plymouth, MA aged 76 .... +Adam Wright b: ca 1645 in Plymouth, MA d: 20 > Sep 1724 in Plymouth, MA m: Bef. 1680 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA If Sarah was born ca 1660 and died bet. 1693-1699, how could she be 76 when she died? I have Lydia Weston Delano's birth date as 31 Jul 1679. I also have Josiah Soule as a twin brother of Joseph Soule. Thank you for all of the information. Richard

Hi Everyone, I am sending two generations that may help you with Rebecca Simmons, etc. There seems to be a lot of questions regarding these lines. I hope this helps. This information is taken from the pink up-date books for George Soule, Mayflower Pilgrim. Lynde Randall Soule Kindred Researcher Descendants of JOHN [3786/7] SOULE 1 [2] JOHN [3786/7] SOULE b: ca 1632 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA d: 14 Nov 1707 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA age 75 . +Rebecca SIMMONS b: 1635 in Duxbury, Plymouth County, MA d: Bet. 1675 - 1678 in Duxbury, Plymouth County, MA m: Bet. 1654 - 1656 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Rebecca [5726] Soule b: ca Jul 1656 in Duxbury, Plymouth MA d: 18 Sep 1732 in Plymouth, MA aged 76 .... +Edmund Weston b: ca Jan 1660/61 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 23 Sep 1727 in Plymouth, MA ae 67 m: 13 Dec 1688 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA 2 James [3492] Soule b: 04 Oct 1659 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 27 Aug 1744 in Middleboro, MA ae 85 .... +Lydia Thompson b: 05 Oct 1659 in Barnstable, MA d: 14 Mar 1740/41 in Middleboro, MA m: 14 Dec 1693 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Sarah [6139] Soule b: ca 1660 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: Bet. 1693 - 1699 in Plymouth, MA aged 76 .... +Adam Wright b: ca 1645 in Plymouth, MA d: 20 Sep 1724 in Plymouth, MA m: Bef. 1680 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Rachel [5669] Soule b: ca 1663 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 18 Sep 1727 in Middelboro, Plymouth, MA .... +John Cobb b: 24 Aug 1662 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA d: 08 Oct 1727 in Middleboro, Plymouth, MA m: 05 Sep 1688 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA 2 Aaron [8] Soule b: 1664 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: Aft. 24 Mar 1751/52 in Poss Pembrooke, MA .... +Mary Wadsworth b: 18 Dec 1668 in Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass d: 09 May 1741 in Pembroke, MA m: Bef. 1699 in Pembroke, MA 2 Benjamin [605] Soule b: ca Jun 1665 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 01 Dec 1729 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA aged 64 .... +Sarah Standish b: ca Jul 1666 in Duxbury, Plympton, Mass d: 04 Mar 1739/40 in Plympton, Mass m: ca 1694 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA 2[1] MOSES [5249] SOULE b: ca 1672 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 09 May 1748 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA .... +Mercy SOUTHWORTH b: ca 1678 in Duxbury, MA d: 15 Jan 1729/30 in Duxbury, MA m: ca 1700 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA *2nd Wife of [1] MOSES [5249] SOULE: .... +Sarah Chandler b: 25 Oct 1714 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 28 Apr 1737 in N. Yarmouth, Cumberland, ME m: 15 Jan 1729/30 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 John Soule b: ca 1675 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 19 May 1743 in Middelboro, Plymouth, MA .... +Martha Tinkham b: 1678 d: 16 Feb 1758 in Middleboro, MA m: 08 Dec 1701 in Middleboro, MA 2 Zachariah Soule b: ca 1669 d: ca 1669 *2nd Wife of [2] JOHN [3786/7] SOULE: . +Esther/Hester (Delano) b: 06 Mar 1639/40 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 12 Sep 1733 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA ae 95y 6m 6d m: 1678 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Joshua [4026] Soule b: 12 Oct 1681 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 29 May 1767 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA .... +Joanna Studley b: ca 1681 in Woolrich, Sagadahoc, Maine d: Bef. 1767 in Gloucester, MA m: 15 Feb 1704/05 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Joseph [3955] Soule b: 31 Jul 1679 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA d: 11 Jul 1763 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA ae 81 .... +Mary Peterson b: ca 1680 in Duxbury, MA d: Bef. 16 Jan 1775 in Prob. Duxbury, MA m: ca Nov 1710 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA 2 Josiah [4040] Soule b: 1682 in Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass d: 25 Jan 1764 in Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass .... +Lydia Weston [#MAI 31931] Delano b: ca 1680 in Prob. Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass d: ca 24 Nov 1763 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA m: 25 May 1704 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA Hi Polly Hall-Burley >>> >>> Rebecca Simmons is my 7th great aunt. I have her husband as Benjamin >>> Soule,>>> the brother of the John Soule that you have. I have John >>> married to >>> Esther>>> Nash. The information on the WorldConnect website is rather >>> confusing >>> about>>> this family. Will you give me the correct information? >>> >>> Richard

Actually, my previous message was partially in error, as I believe the daughter of Israel Carver and Mary (Thomas) (Delano) Carver was Lucy Thomas Carver, who married Barnabas Philbrook. Chere -----Original Message----- From: John and Chere Negaard [mailto:cherejohn@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:42 PM To: sarahevanko@earthlink.net; mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Rebecca Simmons In the Delano book you refer to do you have a record of a Joseph Delano marrying a Mary Thomas sometime before 1786, possibly in Maine? I believe that some very short time before 1786 this Mary (Thomas) Delano married (2nd) Israel Carver and they had a daughter, Mary Thomas Carver. I'm trying to verify this. Thank You, Chere -----Original Message----- From: sarahevanko@earthlink.net [mailto:sarahevanko@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:19 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com; Polly Hall-Burley Subject: Re: [MFLR] Rebecca Simmons I'm sorry if this has already been discussed (I'm behind in my emails;lol). According to "The Genealogy Guide and Alliances of the American House of Delano 1621-1899" compiled by Major Joel A. Delano,1899): John Soule's 2nd wife was Esther (called Hester) Delano, daughter. of Philippe de la Noye and Hester (called Esther) Dewsbury. They were married in 1678 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA. She was previously married to Samuel Sampson. Where did you get this information on Esther Nash Simpson? Thanks. Sarah

Sarah, the Simmons book by L.A. Simmons was published in 1930 and copyrighted in 1931. On page 9 there is an initial doubt that Moses Simmons/Moyses Symonson was married to Sarah Chandler, or at least it states there is no record: "Moses Simmons was married, (probably in Duxbury) about 1632 to Sarah (most of the early writers think she was Sarah Chandler, daughter of Roger Chandler, but no definite record obtainable.). Dale H. Cook seems to think that I am missing one Job Simmons, but I don't think so. I think I just have some wrong dates, unless that is another thing that was proved after the Simmons book was published. Lois Kortering ----- Original Message ----- From: <sarahevanko@earthlink.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Male Simmons >I have the marriage date as March of 1676. I got it from this book: > Moses Simmons: History of the Simmons Family by Lorenzo Albert > Simmons(Sorry I don't have the publication year written down). > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> >>Sent: Jun 9, 2008 9:00 AM >>To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [MFLR] Male Simmons >> >>Does anyone notice (or care) that the Moses Simmons who married >>Patience Barstow - if we go with the dates given by Lois, seems to have >>married at the age of 5? "Born abt 1639, Married abt 1644). >> >>Just curious. >> >>Polly > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In the Delano book you refer to do you have a record of a Joseph Delano marrying a Mary Thomas sometime before 1786, possibly in Maine? I believe that some very short time before 1786 this Mary (Thomas) Delano married (2nd) Israel Carver and they had a daughter, Mary Thomas Carver. I'm trying to verify this. Thank You, Chere -----Original Message----- From: sarahevanko@earthlink.net [mailto:sarahevanko@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:19 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com; Polly Hall-Burley Subject: Re: [MFLR] Rebecca Simmons I'm sorry if this has already been discussed (I'm behind in my emails;lol). According to "The Genealogy Guide and Alliances of the American House of Delano 1621-1899" compiled by Major Joel A. Delano,1899): John Soule's 2nd wife was Esther (called Hester) Delano, daughter. of Philippe de la Noye and Hester (called Esther) Dewsbury. They were married in 1678 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA. She was previously married to Samuel Sampson. Where did you get this information on Esther Nash Simpson? Thanks. Sarah

Author:Simmons, Lorenzo Albert, 1857- Title:History of the Simmons family, from Moses Simmons, 1st. (Moyses Symonson) ship Fortune, 1621, to and including the eleventh generation in some lines, and very nearly complete to the third and fourth generations from Moses 1st. By Lorenzo Albert Simmons. Published:Lincoln, Neb., 1930. Physical Description:xxvi p., 1 §€., 288, [16] p. front., plates, ports. 23 cm. LC Card Number:32015813 -------------- Original message -------------- From: sarahevanko@earthlink.net > I have the marriage date as March of 1676. I got it from this book: > Moses Simmons: History of the Simmons Family by Lorenzo Albert Simmons(Sorry I > don't have the publication year written down). > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Polly Hall-Burley > >Sent: Jun 9, 2008 9:00 AM > >To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Male Simmons > > > >Does anyone notice (or care) that the Moses Simmons who married > >Patience Barstow - if we go with the dates given by Lois, seems to have > >married at the age of 5? "Born abt 1639, Married abt 1644). > > > >Just curious. > > > >Polly > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for > this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I have the marriage date as March of 1676. I got it from this book: Moses Simmons: History of the Simmons Family by Lorenzo Albert Simmons(Sorry I don't have the publication year written down). Sarah -----Original Message----- >From: Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> >Sent: Jun 9, 2008 9:00 AM >To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Male Simmons > >Does anyone notice (or care) that the Moses Simmons who married >Patience Barstow - if we go with the dates given by Lois, seems to have >married at the age of 5? "Born abt 1639, Married abt 1644). > >Just curious. > >Polly

I also have Moses Simmons wife's name as Sarah Chandler. I got it from this book: Moses Simmons: History of the Simmons Family by Lorenzo Albert Simmons. Sarah -----Original Message----- >From: Lois Kortering <lekort@comcast.net> >Sent: Jun 9, 2008 3:31 AM >To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Male Simmons > >I do not know of Moses having the middle name of "Williams." I understood >that his father was William. Also, there has been no proof that Sarah's >surname--be it her maiden name or a former married surname--was CHANDLER.

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed (I'm behind in my emails;lol). According to "The Genealogy Guide and Alliances of the American House of Delano 1621-1899" compiled by Major Joel A. Delano,1899): John Soule's 2nd wife was Esther (called Hester) Delano, daughter. of Philippe de la Noye and Hester (called Esther) Dewsbury. They were married in 1678 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA. She was previously married to Samuel Sampson. Where did you get this information on Esther Nash Simpson? Thanks. Sarah -----Original Message----- >From: Polly Hall-Burley <phburley@mac.com> >Sent: Jun 7, 2008 10:05 AM >To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Rebecca Simmons > >Hi again, Richard, > >As a follow up ... I checked my other database .... John Soule was >married to Esther Nash Simpson - they married in 1678 - about 10 years >after Rebecca Simmons died. > >Hope this helps. > >Polly

Dear Gail, What a delightful story! Thank you for sharing!! Theresa Boock Board of Assistants Oregon Mayflower Society> From: Gailsline@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:24:04 -0400> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MFLR] Plimoth Rock --the story> > > Below is a story I wrote in March 2002 for the Howland Quarterly:> > A Little History of Plymouth Rock> By Gail Ann Adams > Plymouth Rock has been an icon of the Pilgrims landing for as long as any of > us can remember. From our earliest school days we have the romantic vision > of this famous landing. > Historians disagree on this story. Indeed, the story may be glamorized but > the rock surely has a story to tell. Who knows, maybe John Howland and his > young bride Elizabeth sat upon the rock gazing at the ocean remembering their > former homes, all they left behind, and making plans to build their new home > and family. > There is no account of the “rock” by the first settlers, but we do know > that a rock was mentioned in 1714 as the “huge rock which is the boundary of the > town of Plymouth.” > In 1769 seven young Plymouth men formed the “Old Colony Club” for the > purpose of “solemnizing the anniversary of the arrival of our forefathers.” > One member, Deacon Ephraim Spooner, directed the focus of the group on Plymouth > Rock. As a boy he had witnessed a certain Elder Thomas Faunce and his > efforts to save and honor the Rock. > Thomas Faunce was born in 1647, son of John Faunce and Patience Morton. > John arrived in Plymouth Colony in 1623 on the Anne. Thomas was acquainted with > several of the Mayflower passengers. He died in 1746 at the age of 99. > In 1741 when Thomas Faunce was 95 the town of Plymouth was going to > construct a wharf around the huge boulder. He protested and once again recounted the > story of the rock. This story was memorialized by the Old Colony Club with > an annual celebration of Forefather’s Day honoring the landing of the “> first-comers.” > This story is also recorded in James Thatcher’s History of Plymouth published > in Boston in 1835. A beautiful picture of the story is painted in Dr. > LeBaron and His Daughters, published by Riverside Press in 1901 by Jane G. Austin: > “….on a fine sunshiny morning…an open wagon was driven slowly and carefully > into the town from the direction of Eel River. In the centre of it was > placed an armchair, and upon this was seated an old, old man, whose ninety-five > years had bowed the once stalwart figure, seamed the face with a thousand > wrinkles, bleached the hair to the whiteness of raw silk, and stolen the strength > of a voice once powerful in its Maker’s praise; but they had not been able to > quench the memory, or dull the affections, or break the spirit of that brave > soul, for this was ELDER FAUNCE, the last man left alive who had talked with > the Pilgrims face to face, had heard their wondrous story from their own > lips, and had followed them one after another to their nameless graves. And now > today, hearing that the Forefather’s Rock was in danger itself going down to > a forgotten grave, he had risen from his bed, and tenderly protected and led > by the children and grandchildren who cared for his old age, he had come to > say good-bye to the Rock, and to identify it with a certainty for generations > to come. > “As the wagon, with its escort of old and middle-aged and young descendants > of the patriarch passed slowly to town, it paused once that the Elder might > drink from the Pilgrim Spring of ‘sweet and delicate water,’ and as a > grandson brought him the clamshell filled to overflowing, the old man tasted thrice, > then poured the rest upon the ground saying: ‘It is as the water from the > well of Bethlehem.’ > “And so the wagon rolled on up the hill to the center of town; for by this > way would the patriarch be brought, that h e might look once more at the old > church, just about to be replaced by a new one, and the Burying Hill and the > ancient houses which he as a boy had seen erected… > “Young men and maidens, old men and children, they gathered in a sort of > hushed excitement, waiting when he waited, and following when he moved; for the > word had gone forth in some mysterious way that Elder Faunce had come among > them for the last time and that he had something to declare. > “Through the town, down Leyden Street, past the doctor’s house and past the > minister’s that strange cortege moved slowly on, until passing under the > brow of Cole’s Hill to he Rock, it halted, and two stalwart grandsons, stepping > into the wagon, raised the old man tenderly, and stayed him while others > pressed forward, and would have grasped his hands and welcomed him, but he, with > solemn majesty, moved on unheeding, until, standing close beside the Rock, he > took off his hat, and simply said: ‘Thank God.’ > “Covering his white locks, and leaning upon his staff, the Elder spoke, and > told the people how he had talked man to man with the last of the Pilgrims—> with John Howland and his wife, with John Alden, Giles Hopkins, and George > Soule, and Francis Cooke and his son John, Mistress Cushman, born Mary Allerton, > who died but yesterday, in 1699. > “ ‘Children,’ said the old man, looking around upon the people while such > stillness reigned that the surf breaking upon the outer beach became distinctly > audible, its grand diapason bearing up the quavering and slender voice. ‘> They all said that upon this Rock they stepped ashore, from the first man to > the last; ay, and the woman too, for John Winslow’s wife, who was Mary Chilton, > came here before she died, even as I come today, and I stood by while she > set her foot upon it, and laughed, and said she was the first woman of the > Mayflower to step upon the Rock, and now this was her seventy-fifth birthday. > And ye, children of my blood, I charge you to remember how, year by year, while > God lent me strength, I brought you here on Forefather’s Day and set your > feet upon this Rock, and told you what mighty things the Fathers had done for > you, and laid upon you to do them honor, and to serve God even as they had > served Him, with all your strength, and all your mind—yes, and with your life, > whensoever He calls for it. > “ ‘It is true, grand sire,’ spoke out the nearest man; and a score of > voices echoed, ‘It is true.’ > “ ‘Then come ye forward, sons and grandsons, and set your feet upon the > Rock once more in my sight, and never forget this day, you nor your children’s > children, to the last generation.’ > “So man by man, down to the boy of ten, the Faunces came and stood > bareheaded on the Rock, and passed on, until the tale was told; and finally the Elder > himself knelt down, and kissed that precious relic, and prayed that it might > never be forgotten or the sons of the Pilgrim sires fall short of the bright > example of their fathers. > “Then exhausted and silent, he suffered his children to raise him and place > him again in what had become, in some sort, a triumphal chariot, and so take > him home by way of the waterside, followed by a vast concourse of people.” > In 1774 patriot Col. Theophilus Cotton and a group of Liberty Boys decided > to move the Rock to the Town Square for the Forefather’s Day celebration. > Unfortunately the upper third of the Rock broke away. The upper part was placed > on the square and a Liberty Pole was erected. > In 1834 this upper third was moved to Pilgrim hall and the following year > the Rock was enclosed by an iron fence designed by George W. Brimmer of Boston. > In 1880 the upper third finally made its way home and was joined to the > base. The date “1620” was carved into the Rock at this time. The date had been > on the Rock for many years in paint. An ornate stone canopy was completed > by Hammatt Billings. > During the Plymouth Tercentenary in 1920 guardianship passed to the > Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The Rock was moved one last time for renovations on > the waterfront. Its final resting place is under a portico donated by the > National Society of Colonial Dames of America. > In researching for this article, I did find some historians who were > skeptical about the Thomas Faunce story. I kept coming back to the same question: “> Why would Thomas Faunce make it up?” Thomas had heard the story from his > father and some Mayflower passengers themselves. It seems reasonable that when > Thomas’ father arrived in 1623 on the Anne that stories would be shared with > the new-comers. Surely they told how they searched for water, a place to > build, the starving time, losing half their number that first winter, and > perhaps even about the “rock.” > Faunce was a ruling Elder and obviously loved and respected for a large > crowd came to hear him speak that day in 1741. Clearly, this Rock held a special > place for the early folks of Plymouth. > We owe Thomas Faunce and the founders of the Old Colony Club a debt of > gratitude. Thomas knew our John and Elizabeth and helped keep the memory of those > “first-comers” alive. As for me, I will continue to visit the “Rock” and > ponder the stories it could tell.> > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live™ Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now

Below is a story I wrote in March 2002 for the Howland Quarterly: A Little History of Plymouth Rock By Gail Ann Adams Plymouth Rock has been an icon of the Pilgrims landing for as long as any of us can remember. From our earliest school days we have the romantic vision of this famous landing. Historians disagree on this story. Indeed, the story may be glamorized but the rock surely has a story to tell. Who knows, maybe John Howland and his young bride Elizabeth sat upon the rock gazing at the ocean remembering their former homes, all they left behind, and making plans to build their new home and family. There is no account of the “rock” by the first settlers, but we do know that a rock was mentioned in 1714 as the “huge rock which is the boundary of the town of Plymouth.” In 1769 seven young Plymouth men formed the “Old Colony Club” for the purpose of “solemnizing the anniversary of the arrival of our forefathers.” One member, Deacon Ephraim Spooner, directed the focus of the group on Plymouth Rock. As a boy he had witnessed a certain Elder Thomas Faunce and his efforts to save and honor the Rock. Thomas Faunce was born in 1647, son of John Faunce and Patience Morton. John arrived in Plymouth Colony in 1623 on the Anne. Thomas was acquainted with several of the Mayflower passengers. He died in 1746 at the age of 99. In 1741 when Thomas Faunce was 95 the town of Plymouth was going to construct a wharf around the huge boulder. He protested and once again recounted the story of the rock. This story was memorialized by the Old Colony Club with an annual celebration of Forefather’s Day honoring the landing of the “ first-comers.” This story is also recorded in James Thatcher’s History of Plymouth published in Boston in 1835. A beautiful picture of the story is painted in Dr. LeBaron and His Daughters, published by Riverside Press in 1901 by Jane G. Austin: “….on a fine sunshiny morning…an open wagon was driven slowly and carefully into the town from the direction of Eel River. In the centre of it was placed an armchair, and upon this was seated an old, old man, whose ninety-five years had bowed the once stalwart figure, seamed the face with a thousand wrinkles, bleached the hair to the whiteness of raw silk, and stolen the strength of a voice once powerful in its Maker’s praise; but they had not been able to quench the memory, or dull the affections, or break the spirit of that brave soul, for this was ELDER FAUNCE, the last man left alive who had talked with the Pilgrims face to face, had heard their wondrous story from their own lips, and had followed them one after another to their nameless graves. And now today, hearing that the Forefather’s Rock was in danger itself going down to a forgotten grave, he had risen from his bed, and tenderly protected and led by the children and grandchildren who cared for his old age, he had come to say good-bye to the Rock, and to identify it with a certainty for generations to come. “As the wagon, with its escort of old and middle-aged and young descendants of the patriarch passed slowly to town, it paused once that the Elder might drink from the Pilgrim Spring of ‘sweet and delicate water,’ and as a grandson brought him the clamshell filled to overflowing, the old man tasted thrice, then poured the rest upon the ground saying: ‘It is as the water from the well of Bethlehem.’ “And so the wagon rolled on up the hill to the center of town; for by this way would the patriarch be brought, that h e might look once more at the old church, just about to be replaced by a new one, and the Burying Hill and the ancient houses which he as a boy had seen erected… “Young men and maidens, old men and children, they gathered in a sort of hushed excitement, waiting when he waited, and following when he moved; for the word had gone forth in some mysterious way that Elder Faunce had come among them for the last time and that he had something to declare. “Through the town, down Leyden Street, past the doctor’s house and past the minister’s that strange cortege moved slowly on, until passing under the brow of Cole’s Hill to he Rock, it halted, and two stalwart grandsons, stepping into the wagon, raised the old man tenderly, and stayed him while others pressed forward, and would have grasped his hands and welcomed him, but he, with solemn majesty, moved on unheeding, until, standing close beside the Rock, he took off his hat, and simply said: ‘Thank God.’ “Covering his white locks, and leaning upon his staff, the Elder spoke, and told the people how he had talked man to man with the last of the Pilgrims— with John Howland and his wife, with John Alden, Giles Hopkins, and George Soule, and Francis Cooke and his son John, Mistress Cushman, born Mary Allerton, who died but yesterday, in 1699. “ ‘Children,’ said the old man, looking around upon the people while such stillness reigned that the surf breaking upon the outer beach became distinctly audible, its grand diapason bearing up the quavering and slender voice. ‘ They all said that upon this Rock they stepped ashore, from the first man to the last; ay, and the woman too, for John Winslow’s wife, who was Mary Chilton, came here before she died, even as I come today, and I stood by while she set her foot upon it, and laughed, and said she was the first woman of the Mayflower to step upon the Rock, and now this was her seventy-fifth birthday. And ye, children of my blood, I charge you to remember how, year by year, while God lent me strength, I brought you here on Forefather’s Day and set your feet upon this Rock, and told you what mighty things the Fathers had done for you, and laid upon you to do them honor, and to serve God even as they had served Him, with all your strength, and all your mind—yes, and with your life, whensoever He calls for it. “ ‘It is true, grand sire,’ spoke out the nearest man; and a score of voices echoed, ‘It is true.’ “ ‘Then come ye forward, sons and grandsons, and set your feet upon the Rock once more in my sight, and never forget this day, you nor your children’s children, to the last generation.’ “So man by man, down to the boy of ten, the Faunces came and stood bareheaded on the Rock, and passed on, until the tale was told; and finally the Elder himself knelt down, and kissed that precious relic, and prayed that it might never be forgotten or the sons of the Pilgrim sires fall short of the bright example of their fathers. “Then exhausted and silent, he suffered his children to raise him and place him again in what had become, in some sort, a triumphal chariot, and so take him home by way of the waterside, followed by a vast concourse of people.” In 1774 patriot Col. Theophilus Cotton and a group of Liberty Boys decided to move the Rock to the Town Square for the Forefather’s Day celebration. Unfortunately the upper third of the Rock broke away. The upper part was placed on the square and a Liberty Pole was erected. In 1834 this upper third was moved to Pilgrim hall and the following year the Rock was enclosed by an iron fence designed by George W. Brimmer of Boston. In 1880 the upper third finally made its way home and was joined to the base. The date “1620” was carved into the Rock at this time. The date had been on the Rock for many years in paint. An ornate stone canopy was completed by Hammatt Billings. During the Plymouth Tercentenary in 1920 guardianship passed to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The Rock was moved one last time for renovations on the waterfront. Its final resting place is under a portico donated by the National Society of Colonial Dames of America. In researching for this article, I did find some historians who were skeptical about the Thomas Faunce story. I kept coming back to the same question: “ Why would Thomas Faunce make it up?” Thomas had heard the story from his father and some Mayflower passengers themselves. It seems reasonable that when Thomas’ father arrived in 1623 on the Anne that stories would be shared with the new-comers. Surely they told how they searched for water, a place to build, the starving time, losing half their number that first winter, and perhaps even about the “rock.” Faunce was a ruling Elder and obviously loved and respected for a large crowd came to hear him speak that day in 1741. Clearly, this Rock held a special place for the early folks of Plymouth. We owe Thomas Faunce and the founders of the Old Colony Club a debt of gratitude. Thomas knew our John and Elizabeth and helped keep the memory of those “first-comers” alive. As for me, I will continue to visit the “Rock” and ponder the stories it could tell. **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

The story of Plymouth Rock is amusingly told by George Willison in Saints and Strangers (1945) - one of the better parts of an unreliable book. There's a long book about the imagery of Plymouth Rock, called America's Memory (I think). And for a relatively short (compared to that book) explanation of why people's expectations are disappointed, read my contribution to the book The Art of Family (ed. Brenton Simons and Peter Benes, NEHGS, 1999). My article is called "The Triumph of the Pilgrims." The basic reason is that in the 19th century, stereotype depictions of Plymouth Rock often gave it the shape associated with the Rock of Gibralter. That's a habit that even shows up in the background of Sargent's painting of The Landing (at Pilgrim Hall). But it's not the case that the rock gets replaced every so often with other rocks. Jeremy Bangs "David C. Richardson" <chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> wrote: > The guide speech usually has a line indicating that they don't >really know for sure that the pilgrims actually stepped on this >particular rock. The fact is that this isn't even the same rock that >was there 50 years ago. Yup the rock is so heavily vandalized that >every once in a while they haul it away and drag in a new one. In >between times they have to do some heavy maintenance on it regularly. >The last time in was rotated out was in the 60s that I know of however I >haven't been there since the early 80s so t may have had some work done >in that time. If a guide is asked why it doesn't look quite like the >old post card they have they are told to blame it on the vandals. > Don't be shocked. Some things are historical and others are about >tourist dollars. Even if some of our traditional symbols are not as >real as we would like we can't have one with out the others and on the >whole Plymouth is a great destination and the historical aspects far out >weigh the commercial. > >Janean Ray wrote: >> Reminds me of when we went to Mount Rushmore. Every turn around the >> mountain I was expecting the sky to open up to this amazing ROCK of >> presidents and say WOW. You could barely catch a glimpse of it from the >> parking lot and you walk through this entrance way out to a lookout deck and >> up in the hill there it is. It seemed so small in comparison to how they >> portray the photos of it on postcards and in your Rand McCanlly road atlas >> or something.... so majestic looking with the lights blazing on it at night >> etc. We walked up to the lookout point and stood there like.......... OK??? >> LOL >> >> I felt like Chevy Chase in the vacation movie where they walked to the Grand >> Canyon and nodded their heads and turned and walked away. LOL........ but >> it's when you think of how these icons came to BE....... is what makes it >> worthwhile. >> >> I checked out Plymouth Rock on line when I originally joined this list and >> was amazed at the size of it myself. I think we are given the impression >> that it's this massive thing that they climbed upon declaring "We have >> arrived" >> >> What we don't know or realize too is only 1/3 of it is visible and weighing >> about 4 tons and the bottom which is under the sand is about 6 tons. As the >> website states the rock as it is today is estimated to be only about 1/3 to >> 1/2 of it's original size. The top half has been dragged around town, >> broken, chipped away at by 19th and 19th century souvenir hunters. >> >> www.pilgrimhall.org >> >> So that's our culture for ya. Let's destroy ancient artifacts so we can >> have a piece of it. >> >> Even out in SD in the Badlands..... you get arrested if found taking rocks >> from there and the park is wide open for your personal travel and pleasure >> and full access. But you pick up a rock....... you're done! So I guess >> it's a blessing we still have at least some of the original Plymouth Rock. >> >> Janean >> >> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >