John, I don't know the particulars of how you communicated with the state person, but just this week I took a look at my spam folder before permanently deleting everything?in it and found two messages that had been sent by Plymouth there. For some reason AOL had classified them as spam because of the address. If that is how you communicated with the state historian then you might want to give a telephone call in case the same thing has happened to them. Judy Goldbaum DE Historian -----Original Message----- From: Grace Bliss Smith <GraceMI@comcast.net> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:18 pm Subject: Re: [MFLR] active state society contacts I think our state society is one of the best! Our historians are, in a word, outstanding. I don't wish to give them more work, but perhaps they would be willing to offer advice. Check our leadership page at http://www.michmayflower.org/leader.htm Grace Smith, Ph.D., Webmaster Secretary Society of Mayflower Descendants in Michigan http://www.michmayflower.org/ -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:18 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] active state society contacts Hello, I submitted a draft line to the central MF group 3 or 4 months ago. They confirmed the first 8 generations and routed me to a state person, but that person never replies. I wrote back to the central MF group, and they said I could work with any state person saying some groups are more active than others. So... (I'll leave my state out of it) does anyone have any recommendation for what state I should try? (any volunteers? ;-) ) Thanks, John Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

'mayflowersociety.org' used to be the domain but it got hijacked by somebody else so it is now http://www.themayflowersociety.com/welcome.htm try that one! John wrote: > I just went to http://www.mayflowersociety.org/ > and I get: > > ================================ > Great Success ! > Apache is working on your cPanel® and WHM™ Server > > If you can see this page, then the people who manage this server have > installed cPanel and WebHost Manager (WHM) which use the Apache Web > server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) > successfully. They now have to add content to this directory and replace > this placeholder page, or else point the server at their real content. > ATTENTION! > > If you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please > contact the administrator of the site involved. (Try sending an email to > <webmaster@domain>.) Although this site is running cPanel, WebHost > Manager, and Apache software it almost certainly has no other connection > to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group. Please do not send mail about this > site or its contents to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group. > About cPanel: > > cPanel is a leading provider of software for the webhosting industry. If > you would like to learn more about cPanel please visit our website at > www.cpanel.net. Please be advised that cPanel Inc. is not a web hosting > company, and as such has no control over content found elsewhere on this > site. > About Apache HTTP Server: > > The Apache HTTP Server is an open source web server which powers many of > the worlds web sites. The Apache HTTP server is part of the Apache > Group's many influential projects. Their efforts have helped shape much > the world wide web, and they continue to be a dominating force in the > web hosting industry. > ======================================================= > > I am running FireFox 3.0 on Mac OS X (10.5.3). > > What is wrong? > > Thanks, John > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I just went to http://www.mayflowersociety.org/ and I get: ================================ Great Success ! Apache is working on your cPanel® and WHM™ Server If you can see this page, then the people who manage this server have installed cPanel and WebHost Manager (WHM) which use the Apache Web server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) successfully. They now have to add content to this directory and replace this placeholder page, or else point the server at their real content. ATTENTION! If you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site involved. (Try sending an email to <webmaster@domain>.) Although this site is running cPanel, WebHost Manager, and Apache software it almost certainly has no other connection to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group. Please do not send mail about this site or its contents to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group. About cPanel: cPanel is a leading provider of software for the webhosting industry. If you would like to learn more about cPanel please visit our website at www.cpanel.net. Please be advised that cPanel Inc. is not a web hosting company, and as such has no control over content found elsewhere on this site. About Apache HTTP Server: The Apache HTTP Server is an open source web server which powers many of the worlds web sites. The Apache HTTP server is part of the Apache Group's many influential projects. Their efforts have helped shape much the world wide web, and they continue to be a dominating force in the web hosting industry. ======================================================= I am running FireFox 3.0 on Mac OS X (10.5.3). What is wrong? Thanks, John

John, Contact me off list and let me know the state you are trying to contact. I'll be able to find out what's going on. Susan Canada www.friendsofthepilgrims.com www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <john@jytangledweb.org> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [MFLR] active state society contacts > Hello, > > I submitted a draft line to the central MF group 3 or 4 > months ago. They confirmed the first 8 generations and > routed me to a state person, but that person never replies. > I wrote back to the central MF group, and they said I could > work with any state person saying some groups are more active > than others. So... (I'll leave my state out of it) does > anyone have any recommendation for what state I should try? > (any volunteers? ;-) ) > > Thanks, John > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think our state society is one of the best! Our historians are, in a word, outstanding. I don't wish to give them more work, but perhaps they would be willing to offer advice. Check our leadership page at http://www.michmayflower.org/leader.htm Grace Smith, Ph.D., Webmaster Secretary Society of Mayflower Descendants in Michigan http://www.michmayflower.org/ -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:18 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] active state society contacts Hello, I submitted a draft line to the central MF group 3 or 4 months ago. They confirmed the first 8 generations and routed me to a state person, but that person never replies. I wrote back to the central MF group, and they said I could work with any state person saying some groups are more active than others. So... (I'll leave my state out of it) does anyone have any recommendation for what state I should try? (any volunteers? ;-) ) Thanks, John Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I submitted a draft line to the central MF group 3 or 4 months ago. They confirmed the first 8 generations and routed me to a state person, but that person never replies. I wrote back to the central MF group, and they said I could work with any state person saying some groups are more active than others. So... (I'll leave my state out of it) does anyone have any recommendation for what state I should try? (any volunteers? ;-) ) Thanks, John

Hi John, Don't know if this helps, I went on the internet and it looked up. http://www.mayflowersociety.org I chose the State where all of my family migrated to Kansas, it also is close for me to attend the meeting / luncheons. I live in Missouri. Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <john@jytangledweb.org> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: [MFLR] active state society contacts > Hello, > > I submitted a draft line to the central MF group 3 or 4 > months ago. They confirmed the first 8 generations and > routed me to a state person, but that person never replies. > I wrote back to the central MF group, and they said I could > work with any state person saying some groups are more active > than others. So... (I'll leave my state out of it) does > anyone have any recommendation for what state I should try? > (any volunteers? ;-) ) > > Thanks, John > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Richard, I finally got back from my trip and got a chance to fine tune my own information. 1 John Delano . +Mary Weston .......2 Lydia Weston [#MAI 31931] Delano b: ca Mar 1679/80 in Prob. Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass d: ca 24 Nov 1763 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA ae 83 y 8m. .... +Josiah [4040] Soule b: 31 July 1679 (twin) in Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass d: 25 Jan 1764 in Duxbury, Plymouth, Mass m: 25 May 1704 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA And thank you for the info on Josiah & Joseph as twins. Yes, they are listed in the pink up-date books of The George Soule Family Generation II pg 4&5. I'm noting your birth date for Lydia Weston Delano but keeping the date from the reference from the pink books. Will make a note of it tho., Thanks for some good info, Lynde C. Randall ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:33:58 -0400 > From: "Richard Hayes" <RichardAHayes@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 75 > To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <807E44B26A1E46BBB6E8E214A50257A3@RichardPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Lynde, You have: > >> 2 Sarah [6139] Soule b: ca 1660 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: Bet. 1693 - >> 1699 in Plymouth, MA aged 76 .... +Adam Wright b: ca 1645 in Plymouth, MA >> d: 20 >> Sep 1724 in Plymouth, MA m: Bef. 1680 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA > I have Lydia Weston Delano's birth date as 31 Jul 1679. I also have > Josiah > Soule as a twin brother of Joseph Soule. > > Thank you for all of the information. Richard ****************************************

"Mary, wife of Nathaniel Atwood -- evidence to show why she was not Mary Morey, dau. of Mary (Bartlett)(Foster) Morey.", in Mayflower Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 127-130. I'm looking for someone who has access to this article. I would like to get either a photocopy mailed to me, or scanned and sent off list, of course. Can anyone help? Christie Trapp

Folks: As usual, let's make sure we stay on direct mayflower-related topics on this list. All other general genealogy and research related topics belong on other email lists. Thanks for understanding! ;-) -- Craig Rich Holland, MI

I guess nothing's permanent! Tombstones get broken and/or disappear over years (not to mention that the writing on those really old ones tends to fade in weather and such), and fire is the constant enemy of ANY sort of record repository! Oh well...guess we just have to work with what we've got, hoping that there IS still SOME sort of "evidence" someplace! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > Thanks for the offer, Ernie. I will definitely keep that in mind if I > need any more Kingsbury data. John Kingsbury turned out to be a John > Howland descendant as well. Both lines have been proven and accepted by > the GSMD. Just in case anyone else out there is researching these > lines, they are: > > Sarah Bemis' line: > > Richard Warren and Elizabeth Walker > Elizabeth Warren and Richard Church > Abigail Church and Samuel Thaxter > Sarah Thaxter and Peter Dunbar > John Dunbar and Abigail Tucker > Thomas Dunbar and Lucretia Smith > Nancy Dunbar and Amasa Bemis > Sarah Bemis and John Kingsbury > Clarinda Kingsbury and Charles Tidd > Anna Washburn Tidd and Mahlon Ballard > Helen Ballard and Clarence Huntley > (my grandparents) > > John Kingsbury's line: > > John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley > Hope Howland and John Chipman > Hope Chipman and John Huckins > Mary Huckins and Nathan Bassett > Mary Bassett and Benjamin Smith > Jedidah Smith and John Sumner > Jedidah Sumner and Samuel Kingsbury > Ebenezer Kingsbury and Sarah Whittemore > John Kingsbury and Sarah Bemis > > Also, I agree with you about stained glass windows. They are > beautiful and it is a lovely idea, but all it takes is one good rock > thrown by a vandal, and it is gone. It doesn't even take a hurricane. > Recently a church here burned and it was absolutely full of beautiful > stained glass windows; most of them were destroyed when they 'blew out' > during the fire. They're definitely not very reliable as a permanent > memorial, unfortunately. > > > > > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >> Alice, here it is >> blevins@alumni.cofc.edu >> 110 Evergreen Way >> Villa Rica, Georgia 30180. >> >> As for stained glass at a church on the beach, Document it elsewhere if >> its >> a hurricane prone area. Photographs to some historical societies or >> libraries or in with genealogical proofs. I have an ancestor memorialized >> under a window in a church in Charleston where he preached for years. >> >> Linda, I found a pretty good genealogy on line of the Kingsburys and I >> have >> a printout here.I think it had some proofs listed in it as well. By >> fluke I >> found a Kingsbury genealogy in the Carrollton libray in Carroll County, >> Georgia where a branch of that family which would be possiby distant >> cousins >> to me settled. Let me know if you need a look up as I go near there >> reguarly. >> >> Ernie >> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, A.lice Williams <aliceholt6@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to >>> check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? >>> >>> >>> > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: >>> >>>> Sarah Bemis >>>> wife of >>>> John Kingsbury >>>> born in Spencer, Mass >>>> March 24, 1803 >>>> DIED >>>> Dec 5, 1880 >>>> >>>> Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of >>>> Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and >>>> Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that >>>> Nancy >>>> Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total >>>> surprise to me. >>>> >>>> Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any >>>> cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was >>>> buried >>>> in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the >>>> burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the >>>> names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy >>>> Bemis. >>>> >>>> Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many >>>>> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted >>>>> to >>>>> add >>>>> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been >>>>> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple >>>>> sources for my proofs. >>>>> >>>>> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th >>>>> >>> in >>> >>>>> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, >>>>> South >>>>> Carolina. >>>>> Ernie >>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone >>>>>> >>> photos >>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application >>>>>> >>> form? >>> >>>>>> Or >>>>>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Carol from Arizona >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >>>>>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( >>>>>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >>>>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>>>>> page >>>>>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>>> page >>>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>> page >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the offer, Ernie. I will definitely keep that in mind if I need any more Kingsbury data. John Kingsbury turned out to be a John Howland descendant as well. Both lines have been proven and accepted by the GSMD. Just in case anyone else out there is researching these lines, they are: Sarah Bemis' line: Richard Warren and Elizabeth Walker Elizabeth Warren and Richard Church Abigail Church and Samuel Thaxter Sarah Thaxter and Peter Dunbar John Dunbar and Abigail Tucker Thomas Dunbar and Lucretia Smith Nancy Dunbar and Amasa Bemis Sarah Bemis and John Kingsbury Clarinda Kingsbury and Charles Tidd Anna Washburn Tidd and Mahlon Ballard Helen Ballard and Clarence Huntley (my grandparents) John Kingsbury's line: John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley Hope Howland and John Chipman Hope Chipman and John Huckins Mary Huckins and Nathan Bassett Mary Bassett and Benjamin Smith Jedidah Smith and John Sumner Jedidah Sumner and Samuel Kingsbury Ebenezer Kingsbury and Sarah Whittemore John Kingsbury and Sarah Bemis Also, I agree with you about stained glass windows. They are beautiful and it is a lovely idea, but all it takes is one good rock thrown by a vandal, and it is gone. It doesn't even take a hurricane. Recently a church here burned and it was absolutely full of beautiful stained glass windows; most of them were destroyed when they 'blew out' during the fire. They're definitely not very reliable as a permanent memorial, unfortunately. Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > Alice, here it is > blevins@alumni.cofc.edu > 110 Evergreen Way > Villa Rica, Georgia 30180. > > As for stained glass at a church on the beach, Document it elsewhere if its > a hurricane prone area. Photographs to some historical societies or > libraries or in with genealogical proofs. I have an ancestor memorialized > under a window in a church in Charleston where he preached for years. > > Linda, I found a pretty good genealogy on line of the Kingsburys and I have > a printout here.I think it had some proofs listed in it as well. By fluke I > found a Kingsbury genealogy in the Carrollton libray in Carroll County, > Georgia where a branch of that family which would be possiby distant cousins > to me settled. Let me know if you need a look up as I go near there > reguarly. > > Ernie > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, A.lice Williams <aliceholt6@comcast.net> > wrote: > > >> Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to >> check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> >> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? >> >> >> > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: >> >>> Sarah Bemis >>> wife of >>> John Kingsbury >>> born in Spencer, Mass >>> March 24, 1803 >>> DIED >>> Dec 5, 1880 >>> >>> Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of >>> Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and >>> Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy >>> Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total >>> surprise to me. >>> >>> Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any >>> cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried >>> in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the >>> burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the >>> names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy >>> Bemis. >>> >>> Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >>> >>>> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many >>>> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to >>>> add >>>> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been >>>> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple >>>> sources for my proofs. >>>> >>>> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th >>>> >> in >> >>>> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South >>>> Carolina. >>>> Ernie >>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone >>>>> >> photos >> >>>>> to >>>>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application >>>>> >> form? >> >>>>> Or >>>>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Carol from Arizona >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >>>>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( >>>>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >>>>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>>>> page >>>>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page >> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

Good point. However, in our case, the ashes were scattered on beachfront property that was a summer house; the stained glass was at the family church in the "year-round" town, much more inland, so hurricanes are not really an issue. Of course, a stained glass window like that is only an obvious clue to the fact that the church's records probably also contain all that information as well (in my case they do, since my family has attended that church for generations). If you happen to know where your ancestors worshipped, church registers can also be a very valuable source of birth/marriage/death information. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Everett Blevins" <blevins@alumni.cofc.edu> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? Alice, here it is blevins@alumni.cofc.edu 110 Evergreen Way Villa Rica, Georgia 30180. As for stained glass at a church on the beach, Document it elsewhere if its a hurricane prone area. Photographs to some historical societies or libraries or in with genealogical proofs. I have an ancestor memorialized under a window in a church in Charleston where he preached for years. Linda, I found a pretty good genealogy on line of the Kingsburys and I have a printout here.I think it had some proofs listed in it as well. By fluke I found a Kingsbury genealogy in the Carrollton libray in Carroll County, Georgia where a branch of that family which would be possiby distant cousins to me settled. Let me know if you need a look up as I go near there reguarly. Ernie On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, A.lice Williams <aliceholt6@comcast.net> wrote: > Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to > check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> > To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > > > > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: > > > > Sarah Bemis > > wife of > > John Kingsbury > > born in Spencer, Mass > > March 24, 1803 > > DIED > > Dec 5, 1880 > > > > Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of > > Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and > > Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy > > Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total > > surprise to me. > > > > Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any > > cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried > > in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the > > burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the > > names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy > > Bemis. > > > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > >> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many > >> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted > >> to > >> add > >> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been > >> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple > >> sources for my proofs. > >> > >> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th > in > >> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, > >> South > >> Carolina. > >> Ernie > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone > photos > >>> to > >>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application > form? > >>> Or > >>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> Carol from Arizona > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > >>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( > >>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > >>> page > >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > > page > > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies. Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alice, here it is blevins@alumni.cofc.edu 110 Evergreen Way Villa Rica, Georgia 30180. As for stained glass at a church on the beach, Document it elsewhere if its a hurricane prone area. Photographs to some historical societies or libraries or in with genealogical proofs. I have an ancestor memorialized under a window in a church in Charleston where he preached for years. Linda, I found a pretty good genealogy on line of the Kingsburys and I have a printout here.I think it had some proofs listed in it as well. By fluke I found a Kingsbury genealogy in the Carrollton libray in Carroll County, Georgia where a branch of that family which would be possiby distant cousins to me settled. Let me know if you need a look up as I go near there reguarly. Ernie On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, A.lice Williams <aliceholt6@comcast.net> wrote: > Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to > check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> > To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > > > > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: > > > > Sarah Bemis > > wife of > > John Kingsbury > > born in Spencer, Mass > > March 24, 1803 > > DIED > > Dec 5, 1880 > > > > Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of > > Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and > > Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy > > Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total > > surprise to me. > > > > Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any > > cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried > > in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the > > burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the > > names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy > > Bemis. > > > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > >> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many > >> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to > >> add > >> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been > >> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple > >> sources for my proofs. > >> > >> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th > in > >> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South > >> Carolina. > >> Ernie > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone > photos > >>> to > >>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application > form? > >>> Or > >>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> Carol from Arizona > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > >>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( > >>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > >>> page > >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies.

Reading all of these success stories that have to do with information on headstones and such that can later be used as "proof" for genealogy purposes reminds me that it's something to keep in mind as we all do our own "estate planning"! Yes, it may sound lovely to have one's ashes scattered over a flowered hillside or at sea, but if that's what you choose as your final resting place, make sure there is SOME sort of marker left someplace that will remind those who come after of the basic "begat" details of your life as well (for we are surely not the "be all and end all" of all genealogy research in our various families, and thus it could very well be that some day, someone will be trying to pick up where we left off researching our various lines!)! Case in point (yes, I know personally of what I speak here...) -- the ashes of both my maternal grandparents were scattered over the beachfront property they owned and loved in life. So no headstone (and in fact, that property isn't even in our family anymore...and I highly doubt the current owners even know that my grandparents are still "there" either, LOL!!)! In their case however, fortunately there are also stained glass windows in the church they attended that are "in memory" of them, and thus have both their names, plus dates of birth and death, on them, actually done in stained glass as well -- which is ALMOST as good, I suppose (and really, not all THAT different from a headstone out in the church graveyard...prettier, of course, tho!). SO -- do your descendants a favor and just make sure that there is SOMETHING left behind that will enable them to "find" you!! :-) Take care. Kathy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kathryn P.B. Fenton Virginia Beach, VA (Descendant of Alden/Mullins, Brewster, Doty, Edward Fuller, Hopkins, Howland/Tilley, Rogers, Samson, and Standish) http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/e/n/K-Fenton/index.html Recycle yourself! Tell someone you want to be an organ and tissue donor! http://save7lives.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: > > Sarah Bemis > wife of > John Kingsbury > born in Spencer, Mass > March 24, 1803 > DIED > Dec 5, 1880 > > Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of > Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and > Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy > Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total > surprise to me. > > Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any > cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried > in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the > burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the > names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy > Bemis. > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many >> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to >> add >> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been >> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple >> sources for my proofs. >> >> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th in >> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South >> Carolina. >> Ernie >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos >>> to >>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? >>> Or >>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Carol from Arizona >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( >>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>> page >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have email address for Blevins? I have Soule ancestry I want to check with him. Thanks Alice H. Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <smit8698@bellsouth.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? > My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: > > Sarah Bemis > wife of > John Kingsbury > born in Spencer, Mass > March 24, 1803 > DIED > Dec 5, 1880 > > Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of > Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and > Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy > Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total > surprise to me. > > Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any > cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried > in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the > burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the > names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy > Bemis. > > Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: >> Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many >> organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to >> add >> to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been >> accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple >> sources for my proofs. >> >> Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th in >> decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South >> Carolina. >> Ernie >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos >>> to >>> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? >>> Or >>> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Carol from Arizona >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >>> fuel-efficient used cars. ( >>> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >>> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ >>> page >>> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I submitted any that I had to further substantiate my people. In the case of my grandmother and step-grandfather, I was unable to locate their marriage license. This still baffles me, however... I used both their death certificates (as well as their birth certificates obviously but.... fortunately my grandfather's d/c had my grandma's maiden name on it and showed her married name as the informant. I also sent their headstone photo. Here's another FYI for troublesome issues. If you have a living person who has personal knowledge of something that you might be missing... you can have them do a notarized affidavit. My father was illegitimate. So he didn't like that as public record. His Soc Sec application listed his grandparents as his parents. His first marriage listed his mother's real first name but her grandmother's maiden name and listed his father's real first name but used his own surname as his father's surname. His birth certificate listed his mother's name but unknown father and his death certificate was the only document that listed his true parents as my mother was the informant. Fortunately my mother is still around, 86 this year and I had her do an Affidavit attesting to the knowledge of dad's parents and also to the identify of all the individuals he used as his "parents" names. Fortunately everyone he USED.... were all part of the Mayflower line so I also had THEIR personal information attesting to THEIR parentage. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH if certifying your lineage isn't difficult enough. So just always remember, if you can't find a record and someone was witness to an event, etc. Try an Affidavit. I got approved even with all that mess. The bad thing in all this was the ONLY document listing my father's name on it as his father was the first marriage license where he used his first name....... and my father's death certificate where my mother used the whole name. So her affidavit was vital. Janean -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Everett Blevins Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:50 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to add to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple sources for my proofs. Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th in decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South Carolina. Ernie On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: > Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to > show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or > are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". > > Thank you, > Carol from Arizona > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. ( > http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA . Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way . Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu . 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies. Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to add to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple sources for my proofs. Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th in decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South Carolina. Ernie On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: > Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to > show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or > are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". > > Thank you, > Carol from Arizona > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. ( > http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies.

My 3great grandmother's tombstone reads: Sarah Bemis wife of John Kingsbury born in Spencer, Mass March 24, 1803 DIED Dec 5, 1880 Thus I was able to match the birthdate on the gravestone to the VR of Spencer MA and determine that she was the daughter of Amasa Bemis and Nancy Dunbar. A little further research led to the discovery that Nancy Dunbar was a Richard Warren Descendant, which at the time was a total surprise to me. Just a suggestion: Don't forget to check and see if there are any cemetery records around, once you find the gravestone. Sarah was buried in Elmira NY at Woodlawn, and they have an OLD ledger with all the burials in it at a nearby library. That book has a listing next to the names for parents. Sure enough, hers were listed as Amasa and Nancy Bemis. Ernest Everett Blevins wrote: > Sometimes they are the only proof. I have used them for proofs in many > organizations but usually they are frosting on the cake and submitted to add > to the proof and have the information stored somewhere. I've also been > accused in documentation that I over document typically using multiple > sources for my proofs. > > Annie Grey Soule, my great grandmother, acutally has on her stone "9th in > decent from pilgram George Soule." She is burried in C harleston, South > Carolina. > Ernie > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <Scrapcat2@aol.com> wrote: > > >> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to >> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or >> are birth certificates the only acceptable form of "proof". >> >> Thank you, >> Carol from Arizona >> >> >> >> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >> fuel-efficient used cars. ( >> http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page >> for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

Wow. All of our ancestors should have been so thorough. - Stuart Perkins stuartperkins@usa.net On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 23:19 +0000, Theresa Boock wrote: > I discovered some ancestors graves in MI, and I am indebted to whomever chose the information to be engraved. Two generations who left Poultney, VT in the 1830's. Each stone has birth, death dates. Each wife's stone has her maiden name, one has her parents names. One stone says "Born in Poultney, VT". I'm the first one to come along in over a hundred years looking for these folks. What a gift to leave behind. > Theresa in Oregon > Theresa> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:45:14 -0400> From: chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry? P.S.> > I have a situation where there 3 generations over 60 years in the > same plot. It would seem that lacking other documentation this might be > a legitimate record.> > > Stuart Perkins wrote:> > While gravestones often confirm suspected birth/death dates, and> > occasionally confirm marriages when they mention spouses, they don't> > often confirm parentage (except in the case of infant deaths) and as> > such are not of much use in genealogy. Confirmation that a particular> > individual existed does not imply relationships. Other documentary> > evidence of lineage, such as birth records and/or wills/land records are> > necessary and logical. It ain't rocket science.> > - > > Stuart Perkins> > stuartperkins@usa.net> >> >> >> > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 17:37 -0400, Susan E. Roser wrote:> > > >> Car! ol,> >>> >> After reading my post, I don't believe I was clear enough. If birth,> >> marriage and death records are available from record offices for the years> >> and geographic areas you are dealing with, then you will need to obtain> >> them. Only when these records are not available (i.e., if vital statistics> >> were not recorded until a certain date), will other types of records be> >> accepted.> >>> >> If you have any other questions regarding documentation for Mayflower> >> membership, please feel free to email me privately. (I believe we are "off> >> topic" :) > >>> >> Susan (roser@iprimus.ca) > >>> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > >>> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com]> >> On Behalf Of Susan E. Roser> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:28 PM> >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry?> >>! > >> Carol,> >>> >> If death records are not available, then g! raveston e photos are accepted. If> >> a birth record cannot be located, and the date of birth is on the> >> gravestone, then this can be used to prove the date of birth. However, note> >> that in the case of the line carrier, a gravestone does not prove parentage,> >> therefore other records (father's will, census, etc.) will be needed which> >> name parents.> >>> >> Susan E. Roser> >> Historian> >> Canadian Mayflower Society> >>> >> www.friendsofthepilgrims.com > >>> >> www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com]> >> On Behalf Of Scrapcat2@aol.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:18 PM> >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [MFLR] Use of Tombstone Photos to Prove Ancestry?> >>> >> Does the Mayflower Society Historians permit the use of tombstone photos to> >>> >> show birth/death dates of Mayflower descendants in the application form? Or > >> are birth certificates th! e only acceptable form of "proof".> >> > >> Thank you,> >> Carol from Arizona> >>> >>> >>> >> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>> >> > >> >> > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/! 1516 - Release Date: 6/24/2008 7:53 AM> > > Frequently-asked q! uestions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. > http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >