At 03:32 PM 10/28/2008, Linda Smith wrote: >p 108 of this book says that " Lemuel Shaw, son of Israel and Abigail >(Palmer) Shaw, gives incorrect parents of Lemuel's wife..." Could you clarify just which book that is? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Bills adding up? Click here for free information on payday loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m3aOlvHbui7T3tCIqtMNThXHpVvOUTdsFdz0f904abTniEl/

Errata to Mayflower Families Through Five 385 Mayflower, Joseph Alden, George Soule Key to Abbreviated Titles 391 Vital Records, Connecticut, Massachusetts Index 423 Peleg, Grinnell, Rhoda p 108 of this book says that " Lemuel Shaw, son of Israel and Abigail (Palmer) Shaw, gives incorrect parents of Lemuel's wife..." but it is a snippet view on Google and I can't read the rest of it!! Does anyone out there have this book and can you possibly fill in the rest of the paragraph for me? Who are Abigail Palmer's parents? And, is Lemuel Shaw a Mayflower descendant? Thanks, Linda Smith

I'm sure by now someone has purchased Elizabeth White's newest volume that covers Hope Howland? Some time ago Elizabeth White wrote an article for The Howland Quarterly - Sept. 2001, vol. 66:3 that talks about Jabez and Mary (Newcomb) Dimmock. The first paragraph of the article conflicts with what I have in my database that I got from other sources.? In this article, the very first part gives Jabez Dimmock's lineage as: John Howland Hope Howland Bethiah (Chipman) Gale Jabez Dimmock Okay, I'm fine with Bethiah Chipman being Jabez's mother, but what has me confused is her married surname of Gale, which is apparently her first husband.? How is he, what is his first name, and does the volume provide his vitals & names any children of this couple? Next, it says that Jabez's father is Timothy Dimmock.? In my database I have her married to Shubael Dimmock. Did I miss something?? Has it been determined she married Timothy and not Shubael?? What does this source give for a citation for this marriage? I want to fix my records if I have an error in who she married before I incorporate what this article has to say about Jabez Dimmock and his descendants. Any help will be appreciated. Christie Trapp

p 49 says that Bethia Chipman's first husband was named ------- Gale abt 1688 and had one daughter, Mary b abt 1689. She m. Timothy Dimmock in 1693. They had one son, Jabez, b. 1699 christietrapp@aol.com wrote: > I'm sure by now someone has purchased Elizabeth White's newest volume that covers Hope Howland? > > Some time ago Elizabeth White wrote an article for The Howland Quarterly - Sept. 2001, vol. 66:3 that talks about Jabez and Mary (Newcomb) Dimmock. > > The first paragraph of the article conflicts with what I have in my database that I got from other sources.? In this article, the very first part gives Jabez Dimmock's lineage as: > > John Howland > Hope Howland > Bethiah (Chipman) Gale > Jabez Dimmock > > Okay, I'm fine with Bethiah Chipman being Jabez's mother, but what has me confused is her married surname of Gale, which is apparently her first husband.? How is he, what is his first name, and does the volume provide his vitals & names any children of this couple? > > Next, it says that Jabez's father is Timothy Dimmock.? In my database I have her married to Shubael Dimmock. > > Did I miss something?? Has it been determined she married Timothy and not Shubael?? What does this source give for a citation for this marriage? > > I want to fix my records if I have an error in who she married before I incorporate what this article has to say about Jabez Dimmock and his descendants. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Christie Trapp > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Christie, Yes, I have both Elizabeth and Hope but my husband has them under lock and key until Christmas. He is saving them as a part of my gift, otherwise I could check for you. I am *dying* to get into them myself, but he is adamant. Maybe someone else has bought Hope and can actually read it before Christmas. Otherwise I will save your email and check for you but it won't be until then. I was SO thrilled when those volumes came in the mail! Hallelujah! As Ever, Linda Chesson ----- Original Message ----- From: christietrapp@aol.com To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: [MFLR] Hope Howland descendants I'm sure by now someone has purchased Elizabeth White's newest volume that covers Hope Howland? Some time ago Elizabeth White wrote an article for The Howland Quarterly - Sept. 2001, vol. 66:3 that talks about Jabez and Mary (Newcomb) Dimmock. The first paragraph of the article conflicts with what I have in my database that I got from other sources.? In this article, the very first part gives Jabez Dimmock's lineage as: John Howland Hope Howland Bethiah (Chipman) Gale Jabez Dimmock Okay, I'm fine with Bethiah Chipman being Jabez's mother, but what has me confused is her married surname of Gale, which is apparently her first husband.? How is he, what is his first name, and does the volume provide his vitals & names any children of this couple? Next, it says that Jabez's father is Timothy Dimmock.? In my database I have her married to Shubael Dimmock. Did I miss something?? Has it been determined she married Timothy and not Shubael?? What does this source give for a citation for this marriage? I want to fix my records if I have an error in who she married before I incorporate what this article has to say about Jabez Dimmock and his descendants. Any help will be appreciated. Christie Trapp Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks James but it was Sharon who was asking , I hope she sees this. Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:53 PM, James W. Crippen wrote: > Rosalie: According to the Mayflower Society website there are three volumes available for John Alden and I found no Mullins book listed for sale from Plymouth on a recent webpage visit.   The library was supposed to close for inventory in mid or late October.  Perhaps some response can be expected late in the month. Regards, JC3 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Rosalie <bhroser1@verizon.net <mailto:bhroser1@verizon.net>   <mailto:bhroser1@verizon.net> > wrote: > > Sorry I forgot to mention I also have The Higgins line down by way of > Benjamin > > >    Lydia Higgins m. Samuel Hadley >    Davis Higgins m. Lydia Hopkins >    Moses Higgins m. Esther Bean >    Richard Higgins m. Sarah Hamblen  2nd son >               Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo  8th son (not > my > line) >> Benjamin  Higgins married Lydia Bangs >> Richard Higgins married Lydia  Chandler (1613-1651)  m. in 1634 >     Edmund Chandler (1588-1662 m.  ___ > > >         (This is the grandson of the above Edmund) >> Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden in bef. 1711 >> John Alden married  Abigail Hallett >> John Alden married Priscilla Mullins > > > > > > Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. > > > > God Bless America > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at  5:35 PM, NELinks@aol.com > <mailto:NELinks@aol.com>   <mailto:NELinks@aol.com>  wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/19/2008 4:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> odie58@chartermi.net <mailto:odie58@chartermi.net>   >> <mailto:odie58@chartermi.net>  writes: >> >> Does  anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? >> >> Thank you  again, >> Shaorn >> >   sage > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ > page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > <http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm>   > <http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com> >   <mailto:MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com>  with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm <http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm>   <http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com>   <mailto:MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edmund Chandler(1) abt. (1588-1662) m. ???? Samuel abt.(1611-1683 Lydia abt. (1613-1651) m. Richard Higgins in 1634 Sarah abt. (1614- ?) Benjamin abt. (1616-1691) Anna abt.(1617-?) Mary abt.(1619-?) Ruth abt.(1626-?) Joseph abt. 1638-1721) m. Mercy ?) Edmund (3) m. Elizabeth Alden ( 1673-?) m. 1711 Lydia died before her father Edmund (1) so she was not listed in his will. Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Merry Gonsalves wrote: >> Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo > Benjamin  Higgins married Lydia Bangs > Richard Higgins married Lydia  Chandler > Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden > John Alden married  Abigail Hallett > John Alden married Priscilla Mullins<  According to the Alden silver > book, Pt I, it was Jonathan Alden who married Abigail Hallett on 10 > December 1672 at Duxbury. Their daughter Elizabeth was born “probably > not before Sept. 1673.”  “She married first,[before 2 July 1711] > Edmund Chandler, son of Joseph and Mercy (--) Chandler, who died > between 20 May 1715 and 28 September 1717… She married second, at > Duxbury, 12 July 1722, Peletiah West…” The only child listed for > Elizabeth Alden and Edmund Chandler is a “possible child” John, who > was mentioned in the 1721 will of his grandfather Joseph. It goes on > to say, “If he was a son of Edmund Chandler, he probably died young, > as he did not share in his father’s estate.” Further, “Evidence that > no children of Edmund Chandler survived is found in the lack of any > guardianship or division of the property of Edmund Chandler by the > probate court, and the fact that his widow remarried and sold > off most of Edmund Chandler’s property without needing any division > or quitclaim from other heirs.” > > > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the > FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Based on the fact that the General Society of Mayflower Descendants is acting as the fiduciary for the donations requested in the following posting, Craig Rich, Administrator of this Site, has approved the posting of this message. Stacy B. C. Wood, Jr. THE VROUWEKERK - NOW AND THEN Some symbols - even when they exist as partial remains of an old church in the Dutch city of Leiden - may be considered by some as having no special value and just as it appears - an old ruin. To others it is a heritage, a place where ancestors walked, worshipped, shaped our lives and our ideals. This symbol is the Vrouwekerk! It was in 2000 when the precious and historic area of our forefathers was jeopardized and the cry "Save the Vrouwekerk" was heard. It was proposed that the Vrouwekerk be demolished and a shopping area and parking garage be built. Also in jeopardy were other old 16th century buildings in the area and St. Catherine's hospital where Myles Standish was said to have recuperated after being injured during the Siege of Ostend. One might ask why an old moss covered wall or a few old buildings hold so much significance. We might answer that it is our one connecting cord to Leiden and as past PA Mayflower Society governor Stacy B.C. Wood, Jr., FPS has said "without Leiden there would not be Plymouth." Leiden was the refuge for so many people who suffered religious persecution and we are reminded that it was the people of Leiden who sheltered the Pilgrims with their kindness and hospitality. The Vrouwekerk represents a hope, their hope, to worship Almighty God as they desired. It is disappointing that the Vrouwekerk has been allowed to regress to the present state of disrepair but at least we do have something that is still tangible - a moss eaten wall which still stands in memory of our loved ancestry. Jeremy Bangs has now proposed that we erect a bronze plaque honoring our Huguenot and Pilgrim ancestors. This plaque is to be erected on the site of the present remains of the Vrouwekerk during the Commemoration of the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims migration to Leiden in 1609. We, descendants of our Pilgrim and Huguenot ancestors are eternally grateful for our Leiden friends for their support, their unbiased religious beliefs and for being there as the benefactors of our ancestors. Your financial support in this matter is important. Checks should be made payable to "GSMD" with the memo line marked "Vrouwekerk plaque," and sent to the General Society of Mayflower Descendants-Vrouwekerk, which is acting as the fund's central collection and transfer site, at PO Box 3297, Plymouth, MA 02361-3297. Relatively yours, Muriel C. Cushing, Historian, SMD-FL George DeLano, President, Delano Kindred, Inc. Stacy B. C. Wood, Jr., Co-founder, Pilgrim Henry Samson Kindred

Jemima Smith b. 9 Nov 1709 Barnstable I have a question on her death date - MF 4, 2nd edition, 1995, pg 63 Edward Fuller - this gives her death date as 10 Aug 1752 age 41 but MF 6, 3rd edition, 2001, Stephen Hopkins - gives her death date as 8 Jun 1784 Is the most current edition for Stephen Hopkins correct? Joan Norstedt

>Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo Benjamin  Higgins married Lydia Bangs Richard Higgins married Lydia  Chandler Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden John Alden married  Abigail Hallett John Alden married Priscilla Mullins<  According to the Alden silver book, Pt I, it was Jonathan Alden who married Abigail Hallett on 10 December 1672 at Duxbury. Their daughter Elizabeth was born “probably not before Sept. 1673.”  “She married first,[before 2 July 1711] Edmund Chandler, son of Joseph and Mercy (--) Chandler, who died between 20 May 1715 and 28 September 1717… She married second, at Duxbury, 12 July 1722, Peletiah West…” The only child listed for Elizabeth Alden and Edmund Chandler is a “possible child” John, who was mentioned in the 1721 will of his grandfather Joseph. It goes on to say, “If he was a son of Edmund Chandler, he probably died young, as he did not share in his father’s estate.” Further, “Evidence that no children of Edmund Chandler survived is found in the lack of any guardianship or division of the property of Edmund Chandler by the probate court, and the fact that his widow remarried and sold off most of Edmund Chandler’s property without needing any division or quitclaim from other heirs.”

>According to the Mayflower Society website there are three volumes available for John Alden and I found no Mullins book listed for sale from Plymouth ona recent webpage visit. <   The Mullins family is included in the John Alden silver book, Part I.  

Sorry I forgot to mention I also have The Higgins line down by way of Benjamin Lydia Higgins m. Samuel Hadley Davis Higgins m. Lydia Hopkins Moses Higgins m. Esther Bean Richard Higgins m. Sarah Hamblen 2nd son Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo 8th son (not my line) > Benjamin Higgins married Lydia Bangs > Richard Higgins married Lydia Chandler (1613-1651) m. in 1634 Edmund Chandler (1588-1662 m. ___ (This is the grandson of the above Edmund) > Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden in bef. 1711 > John Alden married Abigail Hallett > John Alden married Priscilla Mullins Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM, NELinks@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/19/2008 4:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > odie58@chartermi.net writes: > > Does anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? > > Thank you again, > Shaorn > sage

Hi, This is an answer I received in 1998 from Judy in Az. in answer to a similar question that you posed. "According to Susan Roser's book "Mayflower Increasings", p.4, the Edmund Chandler who m. Elizabeth Alden is the son of Joseph (2) and grandson of Edmund (1). No birth date, but d. between 4 Apr. 1715 and 28 Sept. 1717. Elizabeth m. (2) Pelatiah West. Marriage date for Elizabeth and Edmund shown in the book is pre 2 July 1711. Lydia who m. Richard Higgins as you said, is the dau. of Edmund (1) which would make her a sister to Josph (2) and aunt to Edmund (3). " I hope this helps a little. Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM, NELinks@aol.com wrote: >   In a message dated 10/19/2008 4:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  odie58@chartermi.net <mailto:odie58@chartermi.net>   <mailto:odie58@chartermi.net>  writes: Does  anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? Thank you  again, Shaorn Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo Benjamin  Higgins married Lydia Bangs Richard Higgins married Lydia  Chandler Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden John Alden married  Abigail Hallett John Alden married Priscilla Mullins  Hello Higgins cousin! (I am from Benjamin's brother Jonathan) From what information I have,the Edmund Chandler (below) did not marry  Elizabeth Alden of the Mayflower lineage. (However, she did marry Edmund  Chandler, born 1670 (son of Joseph and Mercy,) grandson to the Edmund we are  discussing. Hope that helps! Lee       Pilgrim Village Families Sketch: Edmund Chandler Robert Charles  Anderson  Birth: He was born in England, probably by 1587. Death: He died in  Duxbury between May 3, 1662, the date of his will, and June 2, 1662, the date of  his inventory. Ship: Unknown, probably 1629 or 1630 [see below] Life in  England: Nothing is known of his life in England. Life in Holland: Edmund  Chandler has been identified as the man of that name in Leiden by 1613. In that  year he became a citizen. He held three known occupations in Leiden, say weaver,  draper and [tobacco] pipe maker. He buried a child at the Pieterskerk in 1619,  at which time he lived on the Nieuwestadt. He probably left Leiden in 1629 or  1630, when many of the congregation emigrated to Plymouth Colony. Life in New  England: The first mention of Edmund Chandler in the colony’s records was in the  recording of his name in the 1633 list of freemen. He lived in Duxbury, where he  served on various committees and as constable in 1636 and 1637. Chandler’s name  appeared in a number of land deals. At his death, he owned property in Duxbury,  Bridgewater and Dartmouth. In his will, he gave three of his daughters “three  thousand and five hundred [weight?] of sugar which belongs to me in  Barbadoes.”As one of his sons sailed for Barbadoes, where he died, Edmund  Chandler might have had investments there as well. He may have been the brother  of Roger Chandler, another colonist who had lived in Leiden. Family: Edmund  Chandler had at least one wife and probably two, as there is a signicant gap  between his third and fourth children. Neither of the wives are known by name.  He made no mention of a wife in his will and was probably a widower. Children  of Edmund and ______ Chandler: Samuel was born about 1612. He married by  1673, but the wife’s name is unknown.There were no recorded children.He died in  Dexbury in 1683. [Probably] Lydia was born about 1614. She married Richard  Higgins in Pl ymouth on December 11, 1634, and had two sons. She died before  1651. A child was buried in Pieterskerk on March 26, 1619. Children of  Edmund and _____ Chandler [birth order uncertain]: John was born about 1632.  He sailed for Barbadoes in 1653 and apparently died there.There is no evidence  for a wife or children. Sarah was born about 1638. She was named in her  father’s 1662 will, but there is no further information. Anna was born about  1640. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but there is no further  information. Mary was born about 1642. She was named in her father’s 1662  will, but there is no further information. Benjamin was born about 1644. He  married Elizabeth Buck by 1672 and had at least two children. Joseph was  born about 1646. he married Mercy _____ by 1673 and had six children. He died in  1721. Ruth was born about 1648. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but  there is no further information.   **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.  Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. 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Rosalie: According to the Mayflower Society website there are three volumes available for John Alden and I found no Mullins book listed for sale from Plymouth on a recent webpage visit. The library was supposed to close for inventory in mid or late October. Perhaps some response can be expected late in the month. Regards, JC3 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Rosalie <bhroser1@verizon.net> wrote: > > Sorry I forgot to mention I also have The Higgins line down by way of > Benjamin > > > Lydia Higgins m. Samuel Hadley > Davis Higgins m. Lydia Hopkins > Moses Higgins m. Esther Bean > Richard Higgins m. Sarah Hamblen 2nd son > Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo 8th son (not my > line) > > Benjamin Higgins married Lydia Bangs > > Richard Higgins married Lydia Chandler (1613-1651) m. in 1634 > Edmund Chandler (1588-1662 m. ___ > > > (This is the grandson of the above Edmund) > > Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden in bef. 1711 > > John Alden married Abigail Hallett > > John Alden married Priscilla Mullins > > > > > > Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. > > > > God Bless America > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM, NELinks@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/19/2008 4:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > odie58@chartermi.net writes: > > > > Does anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? > > > > Thank you again, > > Shaorn > > > sage > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't have them here in Mississippi where I work but I do have the Eddy family books back in Villa Rica. I'll be back up there Halloween to visist with the family. Contact me off list if you need a look up about it. Ernie On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Fred Burton Samson <fb.samson@gmail.com>wrote: > Samuel Samson and Eddy family > > > Very interesting discussion relative to Samuel Samson and the Eddy family: > [MFLR] Samuel Sampson and the Eddy family. > > In 2007, I and Lucina Verish published a 2-part article entitled "On the > Ezekiel Samsons in the Revolutionary War"* in The Samson Kindred*. The > Massachusetts/New York (Private) Ezekiel Samson line is well known. The > New > Jersey/New York (Lieutenant) Ezekiel Samson line is less well known. Of > interest is that the Massachusetts/New York Ezekiel Samson descends through > Obadiah Samson while it is suggested that the New Jersey/New York Ezekiel > Samson descends through Samuel Samson. As noted before, Obadiah and > Samuel > are mentioned in the Will of Samuel Samson, dated 31 August, 1744. > > > > I would appreciate knowing if anyone involved in the preceding discussion > or > elsewhere has firm (e.g., court or civil record) that would identify the > maiden name of the wife of the New Jersey/New York Ezekiel Samson, e.g., > Rachel (Carter) Samson, Rachel (Tichenor) Samson, Rachel (Janson) Samson, > or? > > > > Thank you, Fred B. Samson > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ernest Everett Blevins, MFA • Blevins Historical Research 110 Evergreen Way • Villa Rica, Georgia 30180 blevins@alumni.cofc.edu • 770-456-1876 Historic Preservation Consultant -- Historical and Architectural Research -- Genealogical (Family) Research -- Preservation Planning and Documentation -- House History Member: American Planning Association, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Sons of the American Revolution, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Sons of Union Veterans, and member of numerous other lineage and heritage societies.

Samuel Samson and Eddy family Very interesting discussion relative to Samuel Samson and the Eddy family: [MFLR] Samuel Sampson and the Eddy family. In 2007, I and Lucina Verish published a 2-part article entitled "On the Ezekiel Samsons in the Revolutionary War"* in The Samson Kindred*. The Massachusetts/New York (Private) Ezekiel Samson line is well known. The New Jersey/New York (Lieutenant) Ezekiel Samson line is less well known. Of interest is that the Massachusetts/New York Ezekiel Samson descends through Obadiah Samson while it is suggested that the New Jersey/New York Ezekiel Samson descends through Samuel Samson. As noted before, Obadiah and Samuel are mentioned in the Will of Samuel Samson, dated 31 August, 1744. I would appreciate knowing if anyone involved in the preceding discussion or elsewhere has firm (e.g., court or civil record) that would identify the maiden name of the wife of the New Jersey/New York Ezekiel Samson, e.g., Rachel (Carter) Samson, Rachel (Tichenor) Samson, Rachel (Janson) Samson, or? Thank you, Fred B. Samson

In a message dated 10/19/2008 4:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, odie58@chartermi.net writes: Does anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? Thank you again, Shaorn Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo Benjamin Higgins married Lydia Bangs Richard Higgins married Lydia Chandler Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden John Alden married Abigail Hallett John Alden married Priscilla Mullins Hello Higgins cousin! (I am from Benjamin's brother Jonathan) >From what information I have,the Edmund Chandler (below) did not marry Elizabeth Alden of the Mayflower lineage. (However, she did marry Edmund Chandler, born 1670 (son of Joseph and Mercy,) grandson to the Edmund we are discussing. Hope that helps! Lee Pilgrim Village Families Sketch: Edmund Chandler Robert Charles Anderson Birth: He was born in England, probably by 1587. Death: He died in Duxbury between May 3, 1662, the date of his will, and June 2, 1662, the date of his inventory. Ship: Unknown, probably 1629 or 1630 [see below] Life in England: Nothing is known of his life in England. Life in Holland: Edmund Chandler has been identified as the man of that name in Leiden by 1613. In that year he became a citizen. He held three known occupations in Leiden, say weaver, draper and [tobacco] pipe maker. He buried a child at the Pieterskerk in 1619, at which time he lived on the Nieuwestadt. He probably left Leiden in 1629 or 1630, when many of the congregation emigrated to Plymouth Colony. Life in New England: The first mention of Edmund Chandler in the colony’s records was in the recording of his name in the 1633 list of freemen. He lived in Duxbury, where he served on various committees and as constable in 1636 and 1637. Chandler’s name appeared in a number of land deals. At his death, he owned property in Duxbury, Bridgewater and Dartmouth. In his will, he gave three of his daughters “three thousand and five hundred [weight?] of sugar which belongs to me in Barbadoes.”As one of his sons sailed for Barbadoes, where he died, Edmund Chandler might have had investments there as well. He may have been the brother of Roger Chandler, another colonist who had lived in Leiden. Family: Edmund Chandler had at least one wife and probably two, as there is a signicant gap between his third and fourth children. Neither of the wives are known by name. He made no mention of a wife in his will and was probably a widower. Children of Edmund and ______ Chandler: Samuel was born about 1612. He married by 1673, but the wife’s name is unknown.There were no recorded children.He died in Dexbury in 1683. [Probably] Lydia was born about 1614. She married Richard Higgins in Pl ymouth on December 11, 1634, and had two sons. She died before 1651. A child was buried in Pieterskerk on March 26, 1619. Children of Edmund and _____ Chandler [birth order uncertain]: John was born about 1632. He sailed for Barbadoes in 1653 and apparently died there.There is no evidence for a wife or children. Sarah was born about 1638. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but there is no further information. Anna was born about 1640. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but there is no further information. Mary was born about 1642. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but there is no further information. Benjamin was born about 1644. He married Elizabeth Buck by 1672 and had at least two children. Joseph was born about 1646. he married Mercy _____ by 1673 and had six children. He died in 1721. Ruth was born about 1648. She was named in her father’s 1662 will, but there is no further information. **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

Hello all, I am new to the Higgins genealogy and while searching, I have seen pages of the following lineages back. Samuel Higgins would be my 8th Great Grandfather. Does anyone have the Silver books with the Alden, Mullin names? Thank you again, Shaorn Samuel Higgins who married Thankful Mayo Benjamin Higgins married Lydia Bangs Richard Higgins married Lydia Chandler Edmund Chandler married Elizabeth Alden John Alden married Abigail Hallett John Alden married Priscilla Mullins

Thank you for this information, it is of most help. I really appreciate this. William and Deborah is where I am stuck. I have been searching different spellings of the Higgins name. GOD BLESS, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Robinson" <rlrob@cox.net> To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Stephen Hopkins Lineage > Sharon, > > Building on Dale's note, one of the Higgins sources listed in MF6 (my copy > is 1995) is Katherine Chapin Higgins "Richard Higgins A Resident and > Pioneer Settler At Plymouth and Eastham, Massachusetts, and at Piscataway, > New Jersey", 1918. MF6 references several sections of the Higgins book > including pp 85-86 and pp 674-5. > > On page 85 of the Higgins book: > > Samuel Higgins m (1) 4 Nov 1703 Hannah Cole dau of Israel and Mary > (Paine) Cole, children Israel, Theodore, Ichabod and Samuel. Hannah is > also a Hopkins descendant. > > Samuel m (2) 20 Mar 1717/8 Thankful Mayo dau of William Mayo, children > William, John and Simeon. > > Samuel m (3) int 12 March 1739/40 Elizabeth Harding of Eastham. > > Regarding William, son of Samuel and Thankful p 85 states " b. Eastham 16 > Aug 1719; d. ____. Nothing certain is known of this William. It is > possible that he was the same as the William Higgins of Medfield, Mass., > in 1737 or as the William of Chesterfield, Mass., in 1765, but no evidence > to prove the conjecture has been discovered. (See Appendix A, IV.)" Note > that "IV" must be a typo since the section is labeled "V" > > In Appendix A, pp 673 - 683 is information on The Higgins Family of > Chesterfield. Quoting that reference: " 'William Higgins emigrated from > old Bridgewater and settled in Chesterfield about 1765. He was a North of > Ireland man who married a Welsh wife.' So wrote Mortimer L. Higgins in > 1910 then aged ninety-four years and a lineal descendant of the said > William Higgins. An attempt to discover this William Higgins in the > records of the town of Bridgewater, Mass., ended in failure, as the > records of that town show no William Higgins and in fact no Higgins > whatsoever prior to 1765. However, in the town of Medfield, some twelve > miles northwest of Bridgewater, is found a William Higgins and wife > Deborah and three children born to them there. > > This William Higgins of Medfield attempted to gain a residence in Boston, > as the records of the Boston selectmen show: 'June 9, 1742. Ordered that > Mr. Savell warn William Higgins who lately came into this town from > Medfield with his family to depart the Town as the law directs.' It seems > probable that he left Boston and returned to Medfield, and that the son > William, born Sept 1, 1739 in Medfield was the William Higgins who about > 1765 settled in Chesterfield. We have no direct evidence either way. > Another William Higgins arrived at Boston, April 22, 1766, in the schooner > John & Jaz, from Ireland, a shoemaker. (Records of Boston Selectmen, > Miscellaneous Papers, 1760.) Whether this Irish William Higgins, > shoemaker, was permitted to remain in Boston is unknown. > > In 1790 there were two William Higginses and a Joseph Higgins residing in > Boston. Whether one of these was the Irish William of 1766 or the > Medfield William of 1742 is unknown, but the probabilities seem to favor > the hypothesis that the Irish William remained in Boston, and that the > Medfield William or his son William settled in Chesterfield. In this we > may be mistaken, but for want of definite evidence we shall so place him." > > It goes on to discuss the William who settled in Chesterfield as perhaps > the William b 1 Sep 1739 in Medfield. It does not give a marriage date or > spouse. It does not list a child named William. However it does not have > birth dates for any of the 12 children listed, only baptism dates for > some. William of Chesterfield had Revolutionary service. Katherine > Chapin Higgins cites from it. You might want to check that source as > well. > > Randy > > > >>>William Higgins married Deborah ________ >> >>I have an older edition of MF6, so you need to have someone check the >>latest edition, but my copy says that this William was "possibly" the >>William Higgins who married Deborah (___) and had three children recorded >>at Medfield. Because of the "possibly" the HG might not accept this line >>unless you can find some evidence that the Silver Book researchers did not >>find. >> >>Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; >>Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project >>Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does the book have the children and spouses of Lydia Hopkins born 1727 who married Elijah Bragdon and lived in Maine. I wanted to buy one of these books and if Lydia and Elijah are in this one I will try and purchase this one. Thanks "Difficulties mastered are opportunities won." ~ Winston Churchill -----Original Message----- From: mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mayflower-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale H. Cook Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:27 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Stephen Hopkins Lineage At 09:33 PM 10/18/2008, Sharon wrote: >William Higgins married Deborah ________ I have an older edition of MF6, so you need to have someone check the latest edition, but my copy says that this William was "possibly" the William Higgins who married Deborah (___) and had three children recorded at Medfield. Because of the "possibly" the HG might not accept this line unless you can find some evidence that the Silver Book researchers did not find. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Save on Security Cameras. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mYHp1f24YgAfe4YHoClJkAOUt lbANZjeNeqVsWKFBSbfdMp/ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM