Can a person apply in a state other then the state they live in? Say for instance in a state where other family members are members? Thanks, Judy W.

I apologize up front for the question, but does anyone know how long it takes for an application to be processed by Plymouth GSMD? Mine was mailed by the Arizona State Historian 4 weeks ago today. I know that Plymouth had told me before that only the first 6 (of my 13) generations had been researched before, but I sent some pretty good documentation, I believe, including copies of VRs and excellent copies of B, D, and M certificates where available. It is my understanding that Plymouth OKs the application, sends it back to the State Historian who gives it a number and then who sends it BACK to Plymouth for a national number. Is that how it works? If so, why such a convoluted process? Anyway, thanks for the help. Impatiently awaiting membership, Father John >From: GPa1383407@aol.com >To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MFLR] Application >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:53:50 EDT > > I have my application form ready to send,but my "State contact"gives only >an >E-mail address. To whom should I send this application and am I also >required >to send any fee? >Thank you, >Marjory Palmer >Charleston,SC > > >==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== >Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at >http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

From silver book 8 *************** M1 Degory Priest Degory Priest, 1 b. Abt 1579 in, England. Baptised: possibly August 11, 1582, Hartland, Devonshire, England, son of Peter Prust. d. 1 January 1620/1, Plymouth m: Sarah (Allerton) Vincent (~1588 - <1633) Nov. 4, 1611 in Leyden, Holland (She is a sister of Isaac Allerton of the Mayflower). A passenger on the Mayflower That arrived and founded Plymouth Massachusetts in 1620 It is thought that Degory Priest may be the "Digorius Prust" baptized in Hartland, Devonshire, England on 11 August 11. 1582, the son of Peter Prust. (New England Historic and Genealogical Register, 111:320). In April 1619 in Leyden, Degory Priest stated in a record that he was 40 years old, making him born about 1579. Very little is known about Degory Priest. Since he was married in Holland in 1611, it is clear that he was a religious Separatist very early on, and was an early member of the Pilgrims' Leyden congregation. He came to America on the Mayflower, leaving behind his wife and two daughters. Degory Priest died the first winter. His widow remarried to Godbert Godbertson (sometimes Cuthburt Cuthbertson), and they all came to America on the ship Anne in 1623. Children M2 Priest, Mary (~1613 - <1689) M3 Priest, Sarah (~1615 - ) "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" Vole 8, 1994 by Mrs. Charles Delmar Townsend, Robert S.Wakefield and Margaret Harris Stover. Published by General Society of Mayflower Descendants ************************************* M3 Mary Priest Mary Priest 2 (Degory Priest 1) Daughter of Degory and Sarah (Allerton) Priest b. Abt 1613 in Leyden, Holland d. Bef July 22, 1689 in Charlestown. Mary Priest; living Charlestown March 7, 1686/7 (when Charlestown Town Council provided for her support); d. before July 22, 1689. She m. Plymouth ca. 1630 Phineas Pratt, b. prob. England ca. 1593; d. Charlestown 19 April 1689. Phineas was first at Weymouth, then Plymouth and then Charlestown. He arrived at Damariscore on the Sparrow May or June 1622. Phineas Pratt was one of Thomas Weston's men at Wessaguset and moved to Plymouth when that colony broke up. His narrative is considered of importance in furnishing details of the early days in the colony. An article on John and Ebenezer Pratt of Oyster Bay LI NY by Rodney MacDonough identifies John Pratt of Kingstowne, RI and of Long Island as the son of Phineas and Mary (Priest) Pratt. This John Pratt is not mentioned in the will of Phineas but there is a memorandum in the Middlesex Co. probate files (1st series #17922) dated July 21, 1738 which reads "pay to the children severally if living or to their heirs if decease! d - John and Peter are dead." He moved from Plymouth to Charlestown between Sept. 17, 1646 and May 20, 1648 when he purchased a house and garden in Charlestown. On the last day of June 1674 Phineas Pratt deposed he was aged eighty one years or there abouts. The will of Phinehas Pratt of Charlestown in the county of Midellsex, Joyner dated Jan 8, 1677, sworn 15:4:80, names wife Mary Pratt; son Joseph Pratt and "all my children." His inv. is dated 21:3:1680. Mayflower Families in Progress - Degory Priest Page 2 Houston Clayton Library Children M4 John Pratt (~1631 - >1698 M5 Mary Pratt (~1633 - 1702) M6 Samuel Pratt (~1636 - 1676) M7 Daniel Pratt (~1640 - 1690) M8 Mercy Pratt (~1642 - <1703) M9 Joseph Pratt (~1645 - 1712) M10 Peter Pratt (~1647 - 1688) M11 Aaron Pratt (~1649 - 1736) "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" Vole 8, 1994 by Mrs. Charles Delmar Townsend, Robert S.Wakefield and Margaret Harris Stover. Published by General Society of Mayflower Descendants ChristieTrapp@aol.com wrote: > Thanks to those who responded. > > I'll check out the Silver books to see what it has to say and recheck the > sources that I used. > > I went back into my records and saw that I had entered Phineas Pratt's wife > to be Mary Cuthbert or possibly Godbertson, a daughter of Godbert Godbertson > (Cuthbertson) and that she came from Leyden to Plymouth in 1623. The source > for this wife's name was the following: George Walter Chamberlain, > GENEALOGIES OF THE EARLY FAMILIES OF WEYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS. Baltimore: > Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984. > > I will certainly go back and recheck this source again to see if I perhaps > missed something. > > I did see the reference in Roser's Mayflower Marriages page 237 under Degory > Priest Descendants. It did list a Sarah Allerton married 3rd Godbert > Godbertson on 13 Nov 1621 (MD 1:149) and under the Mary Priest entry are a > series of Pratt marriages, one of them being Mary Priest to Phineas Pratt but > no dates. The entry below that was Aaron Pratt and 1st Sarah Pratt, c1684. > This would indicate that I was correct at least for the Aaron Pratt and Sarah > Pratt marriage mentioned in my earlier message. > > Anyone have any thoughts about the Phineas Pratt and Mary Cuthbert marriage? > Anyone have a listing of the children of this marriage. Maybe I have missed > a generation between this marriage and a child Aaron born abt 1648 who > married Sarah Pratt. Is it possible? > > Christie Trapp > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . -- See my surname list at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/surnames.htm The Richardson Memorial CD-Rom at http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/cd.htm Home page: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/ Most useful web sites: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/useful_sites.htm David C. and Emma J. Richardson 130 Gingercake Ct. Fayetteville GA 30214-7600 Emma's E-mail ejrichardson@mindspring.com

***-----Original Message----- ***From: ChristieTrapp@aol.com [mailto:ChristieTrapp@aol.com] ***Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:41 PM ***To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [MFLR] Aaron Pratt - Phineas Pratt I haven't seen the previous posts. I hope I'm not repeating waht has been said. ***I went back into my records and saw that I had entered Phineas ***Pratt's wife ***to be Mary Cuthbert or possibly Godbertson, a daughter of ***Godbert Godbertson ***(Cuthbertson) and that she came from Leyden to Plymouth in 1623. Anderson's GMB has Phineus Pratt married to Mary Priest, daughter of Degory Priest and Sarah (Alerton) (Vincent) Priest and step-daughter of Godbert Godbertson. Tammel, Johanna W. _The Pilgrims and Other People from the British Isles in Leiden,1576-1640_(Isle of Man, The Mansk-Svenska Publishing Co., LTD, 1989) 301 lists Mary Priest of Leiden as a 1623 immigrant to Plymouth. *** The source ***for this wife's name was the following: George Walter Chamberlain, ***GENEALOGIES OF THE EARLY FAMILIES OF WEYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS. ***Baltimore: ***Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984. *** ***I will certainly go back and recheck this source again to see if ***I perhaps ***missed something. *** ***I did see the reference in Roser's Mayflower Marriages page 237 ***under Degory ***Priest Descendants. It did list a Sarah Allerton married 3rd Godbert ***Godbertson on 13 Nov 1621 (MD 1:149) and under the Mary Priest ***entry are a ***series of Pratt marriages, one of them being Mary Priest to ***Phineas Pratt but ***no dates. The entry below that was Aaron Pratt and 1st Sarah ***Pratt, c1684. ***This would indicate that I was correct at least for the Aaron ***Pratt and Sarah ***Pratt marriage mentioned in my earlier message. *** ***Anyone have any thoughts about the Phineas Pratt and Mary ***Cuthbert marriage? Anderson has a biographical sketch of Phineus Pratt in GMB (1514-18) which includes references to other works. He has the marriage to Mary "by 1633." He has a list of children of whom Aaron is the youngest, b. "about 1654," m. first Sarah Pratt, dau. Joseph Pratt, second Sarah (Wright) Cummings. ***Anyone have a listing of the children of this marriage. Maybe I ***have missed ***a generation between this marriage and a child Aaron born abt 1648 who ***married Sarah Pratt. Is it possible? *** ***Christie Trapp *** *** ***==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== ***Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm .

Thanks to those who responded. I'll check out the Silver books to see what it has to say and recheck the sources that I used. I went back into my records and saw that I had entered Phineas Pratt's wife to be Mary Cuthbert or possibly Godbertson, a daughter of Godbert Godbertson (Cuthbertson) and that she came from Leyden to Plymouth in 1623. The source for this wife's name was the following: George Walter Chamberlain, GENEALOGIES OF THE EARLY FAMILIES OF WEYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984. I will certainly go back and recheck this source again to see if I perhaps missed something. I did see the reference in Roser's Mayflower Marriages page 237 under Degory Priest Descendants. It did list a Sarah Allerton married 3rd Godbert Godbertson on 13 Nov 1621 (MD 1:149) and under the Mary Priest entry are a series of Pratt marriages, one of them being Mary Priest to Phineas Pratt but no dates. The entry below that was Aaron Pratt and 1st Sarah Pratt, c1684. This would indicate that I was correct at least for the Aaron Pratt and Sarah Pratt marriage mentioned in my earlier message. Anyone have any thoughts about the Phineas Pratt and Mary Cuthbert marriage? Anyone have a listing of the children of this marriage. Maybe I have missed a generation between this marriage and a child Aaron born abt 1648 who married Sarah Pratt. Is it possible? Christie Trapp

Aaron Pratt Birth: ABT 1649 in Charlestown Suffolk MA * Death: 23 FEB 1735/6 in Hingham Plymouth MA Father: Phineas PRATT b: 1593 in Engl prob Mother: Mary PRIEST b: ABT 1613 in Leyden, Holland Mother was daughter of Pilgrim Degory Priest and Sarah Allerton (sister of Pilgrim Issac Allerton. Sources: Roser, Susan E., Mayflower Increasings, 2nd ed., Geneal Publ Co Baltimore, 1997 Mayflower Families Through Five Generations; Vol 8 , Degory Priest. Editor Robert S. Wakefield Regards, Bob Bob & Dee Carroll Westport on Lake Champlain, NY. BobDee@westelcom.com www.westportmarina.com http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rcarroll > << Also I note that Aaron PRATT (d. 23 Feb 1734/35 in Hingham) could be an > ancestor and, according to a lineage I found on RootsWeb.com, he was > descended from Degory PRIEST and Sarah ALLERTON. As I posted earlier, I > have found several probably valid Mayflower lines through other families. > > Len Keane >> > > I have Pratt in my database and the Aaron Pratt you mention as dying in > 1734-35 is actually 1735-36 in Hingham. He married Sarah Pratt whose parents > were Joseph Pratt and Sarah Judkins. From what I found there was no > connection to any Mayflower lines as far as the History of Hingham citing the > various genealogies or the Weymouth Genealogies by Chamberlain. ...

There is no way to apply for membership in the Society of Mayflower Descendants without going through a State Historian. There is no membership-at-large. Bette Bradway Assist. Historian General

Does anyone know of a way to apply without your state historian? Is there a member-at-large status? Thanks,

In a message dated 4/10/2002 9:56:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Len Keane T0Leo@aol.com writes: << Also I note that Aaron PRATT (d. 23 Feb 1734/35 in Hingham) could be an ancestor and, according to a lineage I found on RootsWeb.com, he was descended from Degory PRIEST and Sarah ALLERTON. As I posted earlier, I have found several probably valid Mayflower lines through other families. Len Keane >> I have Pratt in my database and the Aaron Pratt you mention as dying in 1734-35 is actually 1735-36 in Hingham. He married Sarah Pratt whose parents were Joseph Pratt and Sarah Judkins. From what I found there was no connection to any Mayflower lines as far as the History of Hingham citing the various genealogies or the Weymouth Genealogies by Chamberlain. Of course, I have more research to do on the Pratt connection to my Joys, but I found no comment as far as I can recall to any Mayflower connections on the part of the Pratts. On top of that the original Pratt that came to America was from England and came after the Mayflower ship arrived and settled in Weymouth. A female Pratt married a White, but not one that would connect to William or Peregrine White of the Mayflower. The Aaron Pratt who died in 1735-36 was the son on Phineas Pratt who was born in England. This information is what I found in researching the Weymouth and Hingham genealogical books that set forth the lineage. Perhaps if you could send me the website you were referencing I could take a look to see what it had to say and compare it to what I have learned on my own. Christie Trapp

I find a Aaron Pratt (#27252 - Parent 27430) and Sarah Pratt in the Mayflower Ancestral Index, but since there are no dates it is hard to tell if it is the same as your Aaron. This Aaron has for parents Mary Priest and Phineas Pratt. I also found in "Degory Priest of the Mayflower and his Descendants for Five Generations." Degory Priest m. Sarah (Allerton) Vincent Mary Priest m. Phineas Pratt Aaron Pratt b. Charlestown ca.1649 d. Hingham 23 Feb 1735/6 ae 87 yrs. (g.s. says ae 81) m. (1) Sarah Pratt (2) Sarah (Wright) Cummings. Dianna ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChristieTrapp@aol.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: [MFLR] Aaron Pratt - 1734/5 > In a message dated 4/10/2002 9:56:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Len Keane > T0Leo@aol.com writes: > > << Also I note that Aaron PRATT (d. 23 Feb 1734/35 in Hingham) could be an > ancestor and, according to a lineage I found on RootsWeb.com, he was > descended from Degory PRIEST and Sarah ALLERTON. As I posted earlier, I > have found several probably valid Mayflower lines through other families. > > Len Keane >> > > I have Pratt in my database and the Aaron Pratt you mention as dying in > 1734-35 is actually 1735-36 in Hingham. He married Sarah Pratt whose parents > were Joseph Pratt and Sarah Judkins. From what I found there was no > connection to any Mayflower lines as far as the History of Hingham citing the > various genealogies or the Weymouth Genealogies by Chamberlain. Of course, I > have more research to do on the Pratt connection to my Joys, but I found no > comment as far as I can recall to any Mayflower connections on the part of > the Pratts. On top of that the original Pratt that came to America was from > England and came after the Mayflower ship arrived and settled in Weymouth. A > female Pratt married a White, but not one that would connect to William or > Peregrine White of the Mayflower. The Aaron Pratt who died in 1735-36 was > the son on Phineas Pratt who was born in England. > > This information is what I found in researching the Weymouth and Hingham > genealogical books that set forth the lineage. Perhaps if you could send me > the website you were referencing I could take a look to see what it had to > say and compare it to what I have learned on my own. > > Christie Trapp > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/ >

> I know this may sound strange, but I (an Indian by birth) am a descendent of the Mayflower (William Brewster). > > I heard a rumor that descendents of the Mayflower could apply for American Citizenship. Does anyone out there know if there's any truth to this... and if so can you point me in the right direction. > ______________________________ Being descended from the Mayflower does not automatically ensure American citizenship, you would have to go thru the same channels as everyone else. Susan.

> Well, I created these lists from the Rootsweb World Connect Project. > I found they really didn't talk to each other over there. So I am > beginning a conversation. Much of the confusion is Capt. Matthew Fuller's > parents and Capt. Matthew' daughter Elizabeth Fuller. The confusion with > Elizabeth was who she married. I am sure you know this, but a lot of > researchers don't. _________________ Matthew2 Fuller (Edward1) and his family have long been researched and documented, there is no confusion over the identity of his parents, nor over the marriage of his daughter Elizabeth who married Moses Rowley. See "Mayflower Familes" (MF), vol. 4., published in 1990. Susan E. Roser, Historian Canadian Society www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html

***-----Original Message----- ***From: Raymond T. Wing [mailto:raymond.wing@snet.net] ***Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:18 PM ***To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [MFLR] Martha Maxham, d/o Nathan Maxham Nathan Maxham was found in TAG 57:209-218. I would ***greatly appreciate it if someone could double check to see if this ***article mentioned a daughter Martha\Patty. John A. Leppman,"The Maxim-Maxham-Maxam Family" page 217, "viii. Martha, m. Dr. Moses Wing; settled in Wayne, ME." No source cited. This under Nathan3 Muxham, m. Martha Chubbock. Let me know if you need a copy of these pages.

I am working on my Mayflower application line from William Brewster. The one trouble spot I have is proving the connection between Nathan Maxham (Muxham, etc.) & his daughter Martha. Patty was born in Wareham, MA on 20 NOV 1771 [from Wayne, ME Vital Records, which were written by her husband, Dr. Moses Wing]. At one time I had access to TAG [The American Genealogist], but I no longer have easy access. Nathan Maxham was found in TAG 57:209-218. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could double check to see if this article mentioned a daughter Martha\Patty. This line is as follows: William Brewster m. (abt 1592) Mary _____ Patience Brewster m. (1624) Gov. Thomas Prence Rebecca Prence m. (1646) Edmond Freeman (III) Rebecca Freeman m. (by 1673) Ezra Perry (II) Hannah Perry m.(1703/4) Samuel Muxham (etc.) Samuel Maxham (etc.) m. (1736) Elizabeth Gibbs Nathan Maxham (etc.) m. (1761) Martha Chubbuck Martha Maxim (etc.) m. (1792) Dr. Moses Wing Dr. Samuel Wing m. (1816) Mary B. Norcross Jesse Pierce Wing m. (1841 or 1842) Sarah Jane Singles etc. Thanks in advance.

HI James, Well, I created these lists from the Rootsweb World Connect Project. I found they really didn't talk to each other over there. So I am beginning a conversation. Much of the confusion is Capt. Matthew Fuller's parents and Capt. Matthew' daughter Elizabeth Fuller. The confusion with Elizabeth was who she married. I am sure you know this, but a lot of researchers don't. If I get interesting e-mails, I personally e-mail to the list. One list deals with Capt. Matthew Fuller descendants and one list deals with Samuel Fuller descendants. Ellen Baker Washington State

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/146 Message Board Post: I know this may sound strange, but I (an Indian by birth) am a descendent of the Mayflower (William Brewster). I heard a rumor that as a descendent of the Mayflower I can apply for American citizenship. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this, and if so, could you point me in the right direction. I'd appreciate any information on the same. Thank you Shonali

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/145 Message Board Post: I know this may sound strange, but I (an Indian by birth) am a descendent of the Mayflower (William Brewster). I heard a rumor that descendents of the Mayflower could apply for American Citizenship. Does anyone out there know if there's any truth to this... and if so can you point me in the right direction. Would appreciate any information on the same. Kind regards Shonali

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/144.2 Message Board Post: The best way to find if there are any further generations on file with the Mayflower Society is to send a synopsis (form avail at <http://www.mayflower.org>) with your lineage through you with $5 to the Historian General. Address is on the website. She will check their files and send you a photocopy of the most recent well-documented lineage that follows your line. To answer your second question: Yes, the data documented in the published Five Generations of the Mayflower Families is recognized as a source, and no futher proof is required. Ruth M.F. Tucker, Historian Iowa Mayflower Society

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/144.1 Message Board Post: You asked: "I believe my family can be traced thru the book published by the Mayflower Society ..... Mayflower Families Thru 5 Generations ... EATON). Does anyone know if there would be any records for the 6th, 7th generations which the Mayflower Society is collecting? How would I find this out? If I can prove my line to the Published Fifth Generation book put out by the Mayflower Society do they except the first five generations as already "proved"?" Susan Roser, the historian for the Canadian society, but speaking of procedures for any of the states, has addressed this question at the Canadian Society of Mayflower Descendants website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html First, your second question, whether the first five generations are accepted is answered, "Due to the excellent work of the Five Generations Project of the General Society, and other researchers, all of the Mayflower families (with the exception of some Howland branches) are represented in print for the first four (MFIP) or five (MF) generations, so these early generations are easy to document. If you do not have access to these publications, not to worry, the Historian does." Second, the matter of generations beyond what is covered in the silver books may be answered by this comment of Susan's if you believe you know your line and are looking for proof. The link for the form is http://www.mayflower.org/apform.htm "There is a way to find out if someone else has joined the society based on your line, you can send a synopsis of your lineage to the General Society and ask them to do a search for a well documented paper that matches yours. A synopsis form can be printed from the General Society’s site (where you will also find their address) and should be filled out (Mayflower passenger #1) and sent along with $5 (U.S.). If a previously approved, well documented paper is found, you will be sent a copy, and will be able to use the data & sources from that paper, up to the point where your lines branch off, which means your documentation efforts will begin at this point. If the search proves successful, this could be extremely beneficial and cut down on the number of generations you will have to document."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BARROWS, EATON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/144 Message Board Post: I believe my family can be traced thru the book published by the Mayflower Society ..... Mayflower Families Thru 5 Generations ... EATON). Does anyone know if there would be any records for the 6th, 7th generations which the Mayflower Society is collecting? How would I find this out? If I can prove my line to the Published Fifth Generation book put out by the Mayflower Society do they except the first five generations as already "proved"?