Submit what you think you know here, someone will let you know what problems you have. Fix them then submit to the Soc. They will then let you know what you still have to "prove" Dave Weacon1@aol.com wrote: > Can someone tell me what the best way to find out if a line has been > submitted? Is this service available? > > Thanks, > Judy > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . -- See my surname list at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/surnames.htm The Richardson Memorial CD-Rom at http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/cd.htm Home page: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/ Most useful web sites: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/useful_sites.htm David C. and Emma J. Richardson 130 Gingercake Ct. Fayetteville GA 30214-7600 Emma's E-mail ejrichardson@mindspring.com

Can someone tell me what the best way to find out if a line has been submitted? Is this service available? Thanks, Judy

I was told today by a cousin that my Elwell family (of Salem and then Maine) connects to John Howland. Does anyone know if this is true and what the connection might be? I have looked briefly at my database and cannot see where yet, but ... If true, this would be my 12th Mayflower ancestor. I would love to find out. The quickest way to check would be to just see if there are Elwell names in the Howland Silver book. If not, I will pursue other avenues. Thanks! And thank you all for the kind words of congratulations for the membership I was awarded for my Brewster connection. Blessings, Father John _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

The Robert Bartlett who is the father of the Abigail here is the Robert Bartlett who came on the Lyon in 1632, not the Robert who came on the Anne in 1623. Robert first settled at Cambridge, but removed to Hartford, CT in the genteel schism which took Rev. Thomas Hooker and his followers out of Mass. Bay. Robert had a daughter, Abigail, b. ca. 1637, who married John Stebbins, 1657. There is a biographical sketch of Robert in GMB 117-20, and a Google search will turn up many websites with these people, some of which have documentation. There is a Register article on the family of the immigrant Rowland Stebbin(g) (begins NEHG Register, 5:71) By Daniel Stebbins, _Memoir of the Stebbins Family_. It is old (1851). ***-----Original Message----- ***From: XxGenealogyxX@aol.com [mailto:XxGenealogyxX@aol.com] ***Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:20 AM ***To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [MFLR] Richard Warren Genealogy Look-up *** *** ***Could someone with access to the Richard Warren Genealogy ***published by the ***Mayflower Society look up this line for me? I came across it ***online, with no ***references. Thanks! *** ***Richard Warren + Elizabeth ( ___ ) ***Mary Warren + Robert Bartlett ***Abigail Bartlett + John Stebbins ***Sarah Stebbins + William Southwell ***Mary Southwell + Jonathan Sheldon ***Phineas Sheldon + Deborah Hathaway *** *** *** ***==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== ***Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm .

Neither the Warren MFIP nor the Bartlett MFIP lists a daughter Abigail for Mary Warren/Robert Bartlett. There is no Stebbins in the index of either. ***-----Original Message----- ***From: XxGenealogyxX@aol.com [mailto:XxGenealogyxX@aol.com] ***Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:20 AM ***To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [MFLR] Richard Warren Genealogy Look-up *** *** ***Could someone with access to the Richard Warren Genealogy ***published by the ***Mayflower Society look up this line for me? I came across it ***online, with no ***references. Thanks! *** ***Richard Warren + Elizabeth ( ___ ) ***Mary Warren + Robert Bartlett ***Abigail Bartlett + John Stebbins ***Sarah Stebbins + William Southwell ***Mary Southwell + Jonathan Sheldon ***Phineas Sheldon + Deborah Hathaway *** *** *** ***==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== ***Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm .

Could someone with access to the Richard Warren Genealogy published by the Mayflower Society look up this line for me? I came across it online, with no references. Thanks! Richard Warren + Elizabeth ( ___ ) Mary Warren + Robert Bartlett Abigail Bartlett + John Stebbins Sarah Stebbins + William Southwell Mary Southwell + Jonathan Sheldon Phineas Sheldon + Deborah Hathaway

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/147 Message Board Post: I just heard from Alicia Crane Williams, the Alden Kindred genealogist, that Vol. 2 of the Alden 5 Generations book, which covers Elizabeth's descendants, is at the printers and will be published by June. You should be able to find it at the Alden website within the next month or two. Karen Sullivan

Dear Alden and Mayflower Rootsfolks, I just heard from Alicia Crane Williams, the Alden Kindred genealogist, that Vol. 2 of the Alden 5 Generations book, which covers Elizabeth's descendants, is at the printers and will be published by June. You should be able to find it at the Alden website within the next month or two. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan

I am currently researching my descendants from Mayflower Passangers. My surname CHIPMAN is linked with Howland, Bradford and Warren. Most of my ancestors remained in New England. Most lived in ME, CT, MA, and VT I have really enjoyed reading the email from this list, and welcome any info that can be provided for my quest to become a member of the Mayflower Society. John CHIPMAN (1), Samuel CHIPMAN (2) , Seth CHIPMAN (3), Benjamin CHIPMAN (4), Danial CHIPMAN (5), Lyman Beecher CHIPMAN (6), Danial Holland CHIPMAN (7), Fred Jackson CHIPMAN (8) Gladys CHIPMAN ( 9), Richard DOBSON (10) Mark DOBSON (11) Thanks, Mark Chipman Dobson 9-11-01: God Bless America "This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others; it will end in a way and at an hour of our choosing."

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Congratulations! Rev. Nina Russell Baton Rouge, LA. ----- Original Message ----- From: Father John Haldane <father_john@hotmail.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: [MFLR] Hooray! Membership! > The following tree was accepted! My Arizona Membership number is 901 - now > only awaiting my national number. > > Yippee! :) > > Direct Descendants of William Brewster > > 1 William Brewster b: Bet. 1566 - 1567 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, > England d: April 10, 1644 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts > .... +Mary b: Bet. 1568 - 1569 in England d: April 17, 1627 in Plymouth, > Plymouth, Massachusetts > 2 Patience Brewster b: Abt. 1600 in Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, England d: > Bef. December 12, 1634 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts > ..... +Thomas Prence b: Abt. 1601 in Lechdale, England d: March 29, 1673 in > Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts m: August 05, 1624 in Plymouth, Plymouth, > Massachusetts > . 3 Hannah Prence b: Bef. December 12, 1634 d: Bef. November 23, 1698 in > Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts > ....... +Jonathan Sparrow b: Bet. 1633 - 1634 in England d: March 21, > 1706/07 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: Bet. June 05, 1667 - > September 1671 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts > ... 4 Patience Sparrow b: Bef. October 25, 1675 in Eastham, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: October 25, 1745 in Barnstable, Massachusetts > ......... +Joseph Paine b: Abt. 1664 in Eastham, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: October 01, 1712 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: > May 27, 1691 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts > ..... 5 Joseph Paine b: March 29, 1697 in Eastham, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: June 26, 1771 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts > ........... +Hannah Huckins b: August 22, 1699 in Barnstable, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: Aft. June 18, 1771 m: March 24, 1719/20 in Harwich, > Barnstable, Massachusetts > ...... 6 Jonathan Paine b: March 26, 1739 in Harwich, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: Bet. 1771 - 1790 > ............ +Rebeckah Clark b: August 30, 1738 in Harwich, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: February 25, 1831 in Brewster, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: > March 01, 1766 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts > ........ 7 Abijah Paine b: March 18, 1771 in Harwich, Barnstable, > Massachusetts d: Bet. 1822 - 1830 in Maine > .............. +Hannah Reed b: December 11, 1773 d: February 01, 1822 in > Minot, Androscoggin, Maine m: Abt. 1793 in Maine > .......... 8 Abijah Smithy Paine b: August 18, 1806 in Sumner, Oxford, > Maine d: December 23, 1882 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine > ................ +Sophronia Merrill Davis b: November 29, 1804 in Pejebscot > Claim, Androscoggin, Maine d: 1877 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine m: April > 02, 1826 in Minot, Androscoggin, Maine > ............ 9 Abner Reed Paine b: April 18, 1830 in Minot, Androscoggin, > Maine d: January 04, 1915 in Greenwood, Oxford, Maine > .................. +Dianna Ellen Andrews b: July 20, 1837 in East Oxford, > Oxford, Maine d: April 09, 1901 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine m: September > 22, 1854 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine > ............. 10 Eva Mabel Paine b: December 27, 1870 in East Oxford, > Oxford, Maine d: February 19, 1952 in South Paris, Oxford, Maine > ................... +Benjamin Franklin Elwell b: February 07, 1853 in > Brooks, Waldo, Maine d: February 19, 1932 in Woodstock, Oxford, Maine m: > October 26, 1891 in Maine > ............... 11 Inez Alice Elwell b: October 25, 1898 in North Paris, > Oxford, Maine d: December 16, 1970 in Portland, Cumberland, Maine > ..................... +Robert Haldane, Sr. b: February 03, 1902 in Windsor > Mills, Quebec, Canada d: March 16, 1988 in Dade City, Pasco, Florida m: May > 09, 1927 in Bethel, Oxford, Maine > ................. 12 Robert Haldane, Jr. b: LIVING > ....................... +Marian Jennie Jordan b: February 15, 1928 in > Brewer, Penobscot, Maine d: March 12, 1995 in Tampa, Hillsborough, > Florida m: August 15, 1948 in Bangor, Penobscot, Maine > ................... 13 John Lawrence Haldane b: LIVING > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/ > >

I am looking for some factual evidence, sources, proofs, one way or the other of the marriage of Elizabeth DUNHAM descendant of Deacon John DUNHAM of Plymouth and Samuel MUNDY, son of Nicholas MUNDY in and of Woodbridge/Piscataway, NJ about 1733. Seems there is plenty of evidence of the line in about this Samuel MUNDY and the same, in and about Elizabeth DUNHAM, from the Edmund Fuller, Mayflower Families, Vol. 4, but so far I have not seen anything other then heresy as to their marriage. (This Samuel MUNDY, the one I am speaking of had a son, Samuel MUNDY who married Elizabeth GRIFFITH and 2nd Abigail ROWLAND, so as not to confuse the two.) Thanks in advance for any information. Dave from Long Island.

The following tree was accepted! My Arizona Membership number is 901 - now only awaiting my national number. Yippee! :) Direct Descendants of William Brewster 1 William Brewster b: Bet. 1566 - 1567 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, England d: April 10, 1644 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts .... +Mary b: Bet. 1568 - 1569 in England d: April 17, 1627 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts 2 Patience Brewster b: Abt. 1600 in Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, England d: Bef. December 12, 1634 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts ..... +Thomas Prence b: Abt. 1601 in Lechdale, England d: March 29, 1673 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts m: August 05, 1624 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts . 3 Hannah Prence b: Bef. December 12, 1634 d: Bef. November 23, 1698 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts ....... +Jonathan Sparrow b: Bet. 1633 - 1634 in England d: March 21, 1706/07 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: Bet. June 05, 1667 - September 1671 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts ... 4 Patience Sparrow b: Bef. October 25, 1675 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: October 25, 1745 in Barnstable, Massachusetts ......... +Joseph Paine b: Abt. 1664 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: October 01, 1712 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: May 27, 1691 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts ..... 5 Joseph Paine b: March 29, 1697 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: June 26, 1771 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts ........... +Hannah Huckins b: August 22, 1699 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: Aft. June 18, 1771 m: March 24, 1719/20 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts ...... 6 Jonathan Paine b: March 26, 1739 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: Bet. 1771 - 1790 ............ +Rebeckah Clark b: August 30, 1738 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: February 25, 1831 in Brewster, Barnstable, Massachusetts m: March 01, 1766 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts ........ 7 Abijah Paine b: March 18, 1771 in Harwich, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: Bet. 1822 - 1830 in Maine .............. +Hannah Reed b: December 11, 1773 d: February 01, 1822 in Minot, Androscoggin, Maine m: Abt. 1793 in Maine .......... 8 Abijah Smithy Paine b: August 18, 1806 in Sumner, Oxford, Maine d: December 23, 1882 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine ................ +Sophronia Merrill Davis b: November 29, 1804 in Pejebscot Claim, Androscoggin, Maine d: 1877 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine m: April 02, 1826 in Minot, Androscoggin, Maine ............ 9 Abner Reed Paine b: April 18, 1830 in Minot, Androscoggin, Maine d: January 04, 1915 in Greenwood, Oxford, Maine .................. +Dianna Ellen Andrews b: July 20, 1837 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine d: April 09, 1901 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine m: September 22, 1854 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine ............. 10 Eva Mabel Paine b: December 27, 1870 in East Oxford, Oxford, Maine d: February 19, 1952 in South Paris, Oxford, Maine ................... +Benjamin Franklin Elwell b: February 07, 1853 in Brooks, Waldo, Maine d: February 19, 1932 in Woodstock, Oxford, Maine m: October 26, 1891 in Maine ............... 11 Inez Alice Elwell b: October 25, 1898 in North Paris, Oxford, Maine d: December 16, 1970 in Portland, Cumberland, Maine ..................... +Robert Haldane, Sr. b: February 03, 1902 in Windsor Mills, Quebec, Canada d: March 16, 1988 in Dade City, Pasco, Florida m: May 09, 1927 in Bethel, Oxford, Maine ................. 12 Robert Haldane, Jr. b: LIVING ....................... +Marian Jennie Jordan b: February 15, 1928 in Brewer, Penobscot, Maine d: March 12, 1995 in Tampa, Hillsborough, Florida m: August 15, 1948 in Bangor, Penobscot, Maine ................... 13 John Lawrence Haldane b: LIVING _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

As with all questions of this sort, you really must contact the State Society where she would become a Junior Member to determine: 1) If they offer a Junior Membership catagory (some State Socties do NOT) and 2) What their procedures and fees might be. The State Societies are seperate entities of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. Procedures and fees will differ. Bette Innes Bradway Assistant HIstorian General

I have seen some inquires about a gedcom program for Mac. GEDitCOM will run under OS8.1 to OS9.2.2 and I think it is or will be available for OSX. Go to the web and access "GEDitCOM.com" and you can download for free the latest version 3.1.1 of a great program. There is also a 400 page.PDF manual you can download. If you decide to use it the unlock key is about 50 bucks and you get free upgrades and help forever. It is not an easy program to learn but has many features. I am using it on a G3 with OS 9.2.2. Try it out at no cost. I use AOL and have had trouble downloading from the top server menu. If you download the program from the second server it is OK. There is also a problem with the manual download in AOL. If you can not get the manual, I can send it to you as an attachment. Thats the way I had to get the manual upgrade. I will be happy to answer any questions that I am able to. Note: this program is not available for Windex computers. Bob

Hi, My father-in-law is a GSMD member but his daughter, my wife, is not. She would like my step-daughter, her daughter, to become a Junior Member. Would she just include both copies of birth records, (hers and our daughters), as prima fascia proof along with a copy of her fathers approved line application or does she just need to reference her fathers GSMD number along with the VR? Tom

***-----Original Message----- ***From: Father John Haldane [mailto:father_john@hotmail.com] ***Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:53 PM ***To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [MFLR] GSMD Application Question *** *** ***I apologize up front for the question, but does anyone know how long it ***takes for an application to be processed by Plymouth GSMD? Mine ***was mailed ***by the Arizona State Historian 4 weeks ago today. This appears to be another question which Susan Roser has answered at the website of the Canadian Society of Mayflower Descendants. Susan wrote that the historian would send the application "to the headquarters of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants in Plymouth, Mass., for final approval by the Historian General. (This takes about 6 weeks.)" Hang in there, John, and good luck. http://www.rootsweb.com/~canms/applicat.html

You can apply to a state other than the one you live in. Sometimes a society in another state will meet in a location closer to you. Or as in your case, you may have friends or relatives who belong to another state society. People who live in countries that have no society often belong to the Massachusetts state society, since they feel they have a "tie" to Plymouth, Mass. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan -----Original Message----- From: Weacon1@aol.com [mailto:Weacon1@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:27 PM To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] GSMD Application Question Can a person apply in a state other then the state they live in? Say for instance in a state where other family members are members? Thanks, Judy W. ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/

I have my application form ready to send,but my "State contact"gives only an E-mail address. To whom should I send this application and am I also required to send any fee? Thank you, Marjory Palmer Charleston,SC

You do NOT have to be a RESIDENT in the State Society you wish to join. Bette Bradway