In an earlier query, I asked about Abiah Sturtevant (b. Nov. 27, 1748). There seems to have been three Abiah Sturtevants. The Abiah Sturtevant I am interested in is the daughter of Nehemiah Sturtevant (b. Nov. 18, 1710) and Fear Cushman (b. Jul. 10, 1718. Does anyone know if this relationship is documented? Fear Cushman is the descendant of three Mayflower passengers (that I can see) 1) Richard Warner, 2) William Bradford, and 3) Isaac Allerton. Thanks for any assistance. Steve Ferriss ----- Original Message ----- From: circle@ntplx.net To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Six Generations from Bradford I'm uncertain if this question can be answered from one of the "pink" books or "silver" books or in some other fashion ... or not at all: My ancestor is Abiah Sturtevant (b. Nov. 27, 1748, d. Oct. 30, 1841). Her first husband, Moses Cass, Jr, was killed in the war. When Abia went to the probate court she appeared with Peleg Sturtevant (her dad?). Does anyone know if the Peleg Sturtevant from the line below had a daughter named Abia? William Bradford I m. Alice Carpenter William Bradford II m. Alice Richards John Bradford m. Mercy Warren Mercy Bradford m. Isaac Cushman , Jr. Nehemiah Sturtevant m.Fear Cushman Peleg Sturtevant Abiah? Thanks for any assistance.

I also descend from Richard and Elizabeth (??) Warren........ via their dau Elizabeth born circa 1616, married Richard Church by 1635. Since Richard died in 1628, only 8 years after the Plymouth Colony started.....doubt if his grave whereabouts is known. Elizabeth however lived to be 90...died in 1673. I would like to know where they are buried....if possible. Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: <ZaryP@aol.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: [MFLR] RICHARD WARREN > This is my first request to the list. Please forgive me if I've done > something incorrectly regarding the address that I'm mailing it to. > > I'm a decendent of Richard Warren through his daughter Elizabeth. I was > wondering if anyone knows where he and his wife Elizabeth are buried? I've > also been wondering if there is a record regarding where their house was > located? > > I'm going to be in Plymouth in a couple of days, and would really love to > locate these places if possible. > > Thank you for you help with this. > > Elizabeth > ZaryP@aol.com > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > >

A bit off the time period, but a good resource for movies which cover up to late medieval can be found here http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medfilms.html Dianna At 04:53 PM 5/26/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend a good movie that somewhat faithfully captures the time >and mood of the early settlers? >Thanks. Steve Ferriss > > ********************************************* Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes *********************************************

Can anyone recommend a good movie that somewhat faithfully captures the time and mood of the early settlers? Thanks. Steve Ferriss Yes Steve - it is called "THE AWAKING LAND" with Hal Holbrook - Elizabeth Montgomery - [Bewitched] Jane Seymour - etc. It was a mini series on TV a few years ago - I think it was shown not too long ago on the History channel - [I think] I just love watching it - it is very good.. show's you how the land developed and a good insight to the people that lived then. IF you find it on CD's let me know, I would love to have it in my collection. Elizabeth Montgomery did an outstanding job, as did Hal Holbrook and Jane Seymour and the rest of the cast - it is about 6 hours long. Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com

This is my first request to the list. Please forgive me if I've done something incorrectly regarding the address that I'm mailing it to. I'm a decendent of Richard Warren through his daughter Elizabeth. I was wondering if anyone knows where he and his wife Elizabeth are buried? I've also been wondering if there is a record regarding where their house was located? I'm going to be in Plymouth in a couple of days, and would really love to locate these places if possible. Thank you for you help with this. Elizabeth ZaryP@aol.com

On Sun, 26 May 2002 09:33:15 -0400 "RICHARD A ELDRIDGE" <reldridge1@prodigy.net> writes: > "A purpose of marriage between Mr. Abner Holms and Basheba Nelson. > Both of Plymouth. April 23th 1737." Richard - Many thanks - that's exactly what I needed. I suspected it might be their intention - the note was right after some notes on Abner. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA

| Does anyone on the list have ready access to MD v. 18? In my notes I've | found an old one indicating that I need to see a marriage intention on | page 28, but the note doesn't indicate whose intention. The location of | the note suggests the surnames would be Cooke, Holmes, Kent or Nelson. If | anyone could email a scan or image of that page, or a transcription of | any intentions with those surnames on that page, I would be most | grateful. | | Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI | Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA Dale, V18:28 "A purpose of marriage between Mr. Abner Holms and Basheba Nelson. Both of Plymouth. April 23th 1737." Richard, VaBchVa

In a message dated 5/24/02 4:45:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, A321Mary@aol.com writes: > Is anyone researching Edward Fuller through his son Matthew Fuller? > Yes, one of my Fuller lines goes thru Matthew -- anyone else out there who fits in with this line someplace?? 1) Edward FULLER m. Unknown; 2) Matthew FULLER m. Frances IDE; 3) Elizabeth FULLER m. Moses ROWLEY; 4) Mehitable ROWLEY m. John FULLER (<-- John was a grandson of Edward Fuller, via Edward's other son, Samuel); 5) Edward FULLER m. Unknown BATES; 6) Elizabeth FULLER m. Job ACKLEY; 7) Stephen ACKLEY m. Thankful WATROUS; 8) Elijah ACKLEY m. Abigail STRONG; 9) Elijah ACKLEY m. Electa WILLIAMS; 10) Elijah ACKLEY m. Mary Jane KILBOURNE; 11) William Kilbourne ACKLEY m. Helen Maria ROBERTS; 12) Frederick Roberts ACKLEY m. Hazel Delano DOWNES (<-- my maternal grandparents) My sources for the above include the Edward Fuller silver book, the DAR Lineage Books, an unpublished Ackley genealogy, cemetery records, various federal censuses, and birth, marriage and death certificates. Kathy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I am accustomed to hearing malicious falsehoods about myself...but I think I have a right to object to libelous statements about my dog." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt Check out my genealogy web pages! http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/e/n/K-Fenton/index.html ~AND~ http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=twigsandbranches Recycle yourself! Tell someone you want to be an organ and tissue donor!

> Is anyone researching Edward Fuller through his son Matthew Fuller? I am!.. This FULLER line is one that I really need more information on. It goes back to Matthew FULLER, son of Edward FULLER of the Mayflower, but it doesn't appear to be researched to the extent that some FULLER lines have been. One of my major brick walls is Sarah SPARROW in the second generation. Surnames: SPARROW, HUNGERFORD, CONE, RICHARDSON, GATES, GREEN, GILBERT. I've clipped just the FULLER line out of a full report - if anyone would like the complete report with sources, please let me know. My main sources were (2) Fuller, William Hyslop, Fuller Genealogy, (Mass. Privately Printed. 1914.), p 48-52.; (3) Brainard, Lucy Abigail, The Genealogy of the Brainerd-Brainard Family in America, 1649-1908, (1908), Vol. I, Part I, 73. and (13) General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Vol 4 - Edward Fuller, (1990). Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/ First Generation 1. Laura Fuller (1, 2) , daughter of Elisha Fuller and Rachel Brainerd, was born on 9 Apr 1794 in East Hamilton, Madison Co., NY (1, 2, 3) and died on 2 Jan 1829 (1, 2). Second Generation (Parents) 2. Elisha Fuller (2, 4, 5, 6) , son of Elisha Fuller and Sarah Sparrow, was born on 3 Oct 1771 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (2) and died on 3 Apr 1845 in East Hamilton, Madison Co., NY (2). 3. Rachel Brainerd (2, 5, 7, 8) , daughter of Stephen Brainerd and Rachel Day, was born on 23 Dec 1770 in Chatham, Middlesex Co., CT (2, 7, 8) and died on 19 Nov 1826 in East Hamilton, Madison Co., NY (2, 7). Third Generation (Grandparents) 4. Elisha Fuller (4) , son of Elisha Fuller and Esther Hungerford, was born in 1749 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (4) and died on 7 Aug 1778 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (4). 5. Sarah Sparrow (2, 4). Fourth Generation (Great Grandparents) 8. Elisha Fuller (13, 14) , son of Matthias Fuller and Mary Cone, was born on 4 Mar 1726/27 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (13, 14, 15) and died on 3 Nov 1811 in Richmond, MA. 9. Esther Hungerford (16, 17) , daughter of Green Hungerford and Jemima Richardson, was born on 22 May 1728 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (17). Fifth Generation (Great Great Grandparents) 16. Matthias Fuller (13) , son of Timothy Fuller and Sarah Gates, was born on 24 Mar 1698/99 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (13, 18) and died before 11 Oct 1768 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (13). 17. Mary Cone (2, 13, 18, 22) , daughter of Deacon Daniel Cone and Mary Gates, was born on 6 Jan 1700/01 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (2, 13, 18, 22) and died on 15 Nov 1739 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (2, 13). Sixth Generation (3rd Great Grandparents) 32. Timothy Fuller (13) , son of Samuel Fuller and Mary Unknown (Fuller), was born about 1670 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co., MA (13) died on 30 Nov 1748 in East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (13, 35), and was buried in Cove Cemetery, East Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (29). 33. Sarah Gates (13) , daughter of Capt. George Gates and Sarah Olmstead, was born on 16 Jan 1669/70 in Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT (13) and died in 1712 (13). Seventh Generation (4th Great Grandparents) 64. Samuel Fuller (13) , son of Matthew Fuller and Francis Iyde, was born about 1630 in England (13) and died on 26 Mar 1676 in Rehoboth, Bristol Co., MA (13). 65. Mary Unknown (Fuller) (13) , died after 7 Aug 1696 (13). Eighth Generation (5th Great Grandparents) 128. Matthew Fuller (13) , son of Edward Fuller and Unknown Unknown (Fuller), was born in England (13) and died after 25 Jul 1678 in Barnstable Co., MA (13). 129. Francis Iyde (13, 74) , was born in 1605 (74) and died after 30 Oct 1678 (13). Ninth Generation (6th Great Grandparents) 256. Edward Fuller (13) , son of Robert Fuller and Sara Dunkhorn, was baptized on 4 Sep 1575 in Redenhall, Norfolk, Eng (13, 88) and died after 11 Jan 1620/21 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA (13). 257. Unknown Unknown (Fuller) (13) , died after 11 Jan 1620/21 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA (13).

Does anyone on the list have ready access to MD v. 18? In my notes I've found an old one indicating that I need to see a marriage intention on page 28, but the note doesn't indicate whose intention. The location of the note suggests the surnames would be Cooke, Holmes, Kent or Nelson. If anyone could email a scan or image of that page, or a transcription of any intentions with those surnames on that page, I would be most grateful. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA

Schani: Here's some info on Experience Mitchell from notes I took from "Plymouth Colony, Its History and People 1620-1691," by Eugene Stratton: In 1627 he signed agreement to allow privileges to the 8 Undertakers in return for their assumption of the Colony's debt. p. 327-8 has a biographical sketch. He arrived in Plymouth in 1623 on the Anne. He was from Duke's Place, London. Seems he was at Leiden. On the 1633 Plymouth Freeman list. He later moved to Duxbury and was a highway surveyor and served on various juries, although once was fined for refusing to serve on the grand jury. He married, prob. not long after the 1627 cattle division, Jane Cooke, dau of Francis 1 of the Mayflower. No record of their marriage but their son Thomas refers to his grandfather Francis Cooke in a 1 Aug 1672 deed (MD 3:104). By his first wife Jane he had Thomas and Elizabeth, but indirect evidence indicates the rest of his children were probably by his second wife Mary _____. (See NEHGR 127:94 and TAG 59:28 and MQ 49:130). His will dated 5 Dec 1684, inventory 14 May 1689, named wife Mary, sons Edward and John, grandsons Experience and Thomas, granddaughter Mary Mitchell and daughters Mary Shaw, Sarah Hayward, and Hannah Hayward (MD 32:97). His dau Elizabeth, who m. John Washburn, and his son Jacob, who m. Susanna Pope, predeceased him. I descend from Jane Cooke's sister Hester who m. Richard Wright, so I don't have much info on Jane's descendants. Good luck with your search, Chris Chirokas Westford, MA -----Original Message----- From: Schani Biermann [mailto:ussenterprise@sasktel.net] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:47 PM To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] cooke surname i am particularly interested in Francis Cooke's daughter Jane who married Experience Mitchell. Apparently she died quite young and Experience remarried a Mary ? ( last name not known). They had a daughter Sarah. i have been on a few Mayflower sites and there seems to be a lot of "controversy" on this particular marriage and the children. My preliminary research reveals that i am descended from this 2nd marriage of Experience Mitchell. there appears also to be a "debate" within the mayflower Society on this situation and its affect on whether you are a "true" Mayflower descendant. can anyone shed some new light on the above mentioned marriage and provide me with some sort of "concrete/reliable" information and also maybe their descendants. Apparently this Sarah marries a John hayward and the line contines down from there. There is a marriage eventually into the Winslow family .need more info here as well. any help would certainly be appreciated Schani Biermann, researching Winchester, Winslow and Morgan in the New England States, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm .

I'm uncertain if this question can be answered from one of the "pink" books or "silver" books or in some other fashion ... or not at all: My ancestor is Abiah Sturtevant (b. Nov. 27, 1748, d. Oct. 30, 1841). Her first husband, Moses Cass, Jr, was killed in the war. When Abia went to the probate court she appeared with Peleg Sturtevant (her dad?). Does anyone know if the Peleg Sturtevant from the line below had a daughter named Abia? William Bradford I m. Alice Carpenter William Bradford II m. Alice Richards John Bradford m. Mercy Warren Mercy Bradford m. Isaac Cushman , Jr. Nehemiah Sturtevant m.Fear Cushman Peleg Sturtevant Abiah? Thanks for any assistance.

On Sat, 25 May 2002 14:23:16 -0400 Bruce Bardes <bpbgene@fuse.net> writes: > John Alden > +Priscilla Mullins > Ruth Alden > +John Bass > Sarah Bass > +Ephraim Thayer > Hannah Thayer > +Nathaniel Blanchard > Hannah Blanchard > +Clement Hayden > Hannah Hayden, b. 11 Nov 1765, Braintree, MA Bruce - Braintree Town Records, p. 843 (and again on p. 848), has: The Children of Clement Hayden and Hannah his wife.... Hannah Hayden a daughter born November 11th. 1765. Also in Braintree Town Records p. 826: The children of Daniel Hayden & Rachel his wife... Hannah, was born August 30th. 1762. I don't see a marriage or intention for a Hannah Hayden of the right age (the records end in 1787), or a death, for that matter. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA

Hello Folks -- I'm trying to confirm the marriage of a descendant of Ruth Alden, in the lineage printed below. The bride, a descendant of Ruth Alden who is listed at the Alden Kindred web site (link is given below, in Dawn Green's message), was Hannah Hayden. By my records, her husband was William Dolley, and the marriage took place on 28 Apr 1791, in Gray, Cumberland, ME. There is an entry in the VRs of Gray, ME for such a marriage, cited at <www.familysearch.com>. The lineage is: John Alden +Priscilla Mullins Ruth Alden +John Bass Sarah Bass +Ephraim Thayer Hannah Thayer +Nathaniel Blanchard Hannah Blanchard +Clement Hayden Hannah Hayden, b. 11 Nov 1765, Braintree, MA All of the above lineage is given in the Alden Kindred web site. I have no doubt that Hannah Hayden married William Dolley. However, there were a bunch of Haydens in Maine at that time, and I have some doubt that Mrs. Dolley was the daughter of Clement and Hannah (Blanchard) Hayden. Was there another Hannah Hayden? Thanks in advance for your help. Bruce Bardes Cincinnati DGreen1647@aol.com wrote: > Here is where I found info on desc. of John Alden. It has each child's desc. > Descendants of John Alden > The Eight Generation Project Home Page > http://www.alden.org/aldengen/3genindex.htm > > TTYS, Dawn Green > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/

Here is where I found info on desc. of John Alden. It has each child's desc. Descendants of John Alden The Eight Generation Project Home Page http://www.alden.org/aldengen/3genindex.htm TTYS, Dawn Green

If I remember correctly what Alicia Crane Williams told me, the fifth generation descendants of Ruth (Alden) Bass and Rebecca (Alden) Delano will be published together in one volume. However, several other volumes will be published first, so it will be a few years before it's done. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan -----Original Message----- From: HolmanBE@aol.com [mailto:HolmanBE@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:03 PM To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Children of Ruth Alden Is there a book underway for the children of Ruth Alden and John Bass? ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/

Is there a book underway for the children of Ruth Alden and John Bass?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/156 Message Board Post: Has anyone joined the Mayflower through the Nelson-Warren line? Justus NelsonB.2-21-1737M-Mary Haight -Had-Sarah NelsonB-1768 D-1833-M-Capt. John WarrenB.-3-15-1765 D.-9-1-1837. His father was Samuel Warren who M-Ester Rogers 1st. wife.I know there is a conection but can't get it

Part 2, Volume 16 of the Mayflower Five Generation Project, which covers the descendants of Elizabeth, d/o John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, will be available on July 15th. The cost is $35.00, and you can order it from the Alden Kindred's website below. Karen Sullivan Alden Kindred of America http://www.alden.org/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/155 Message Board Post: Part 2, Volume 16 of the Mayflower Five Generation Project, which covers the descendants of Elizabeth, d/o John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, will be available on July 15th. The cost is $35.00, and you can order it from the Alden Kindred's website below. Karen Sullivan Alden Kindred of America http://www.alden.org/