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    1. [MFLR] Family History
    2. T.J.
    3. Hi everyone, I posted to this site earlier. I listed some of my families decedents that came over on the Mayflower. I have sense found another. These are the names: 1.Bradford 2. Eaton 3. Whetherel and the two others are: 4. Brewster 5. Hopkins In fact one of my great Aunts lives in one of the original Eaton homes in Bridgewater, Massachusetts. It certainly looks original. Does anyone have any information on the Whetherel (sp) family line? Some of the families listed above and I think there may be others descend from both sides of my family, well actually I should say both sides of my fathers family, which include the Griswold's, Denison's, Wolcott's, McIntosh, Hyde, Stanton's and lastly the Perkins family. does anyone else have any links to the Mayflower decedents through these families? Tim

    11/24/2002 02:12:29
    1. [MFLR] Family History
    2. T.J.
    3. Hi, I just joined the list. Our family has at least three links to individuals who came over on the Mayflower, the Brewster's, Eaton's and Whetherll. I think I spelled the last name correctly. I will have to get a copy of the Patriot Ledger. I live in Boston. Does anyone know the Whetherll line? Tim

    11/24/2002 01:51:09
    1. [MFLR] RE: Pilgrims and their seed corn
    2. Mildred
    3. I have just seen a newsletter from a church which states that the Pilgrims "stole" the seed corn from the Native Americans and never thanked them for it. I know this is off-topic, but things like that bother me, and I don't know any sources with which to refute statements like these. Can someone recommend a history of the colony, or would Wm. Bradford's account be the best? Thanks. Mildred Mallek (Bradford descendant)

    11/24/2002 01:44:32
    1. Re: [MFLR] RE: Pilgrims and their seed corn
    2. Robert Luce
    3. Bradford's account does say that Captain Standish led the first expedition onto the cape on Nov. 15. "Afterwards they directed their course to come to the other shore, for they knew it was a neck of land they were to cross over, and so at length got to the seaside and marched to this supposed river, and bu the way found a found of clear, fresh water, and shortly after a good quantity of clear ground where the Indians had formerly set corn and some of their graves. And proceeding furthe they saw new stubble where cord had been set the same year; also they found where lately a house had been, where some planks and a great kettle was remaining and heaps of sand newly paddled with their hands. Which, they digging up, found in them divers fair Indian baskets filled with corn, and some in ears, fair and good, of divers colours, which seemed to them a goodly sight (having never seen any such before). This was near the place of that supposed river they came to seek, unto which they went and found it to oopen itself into two arms with a high cliff of sand in the entrance but more like to be creeks of salt water than any fresh for aught they saw; and that there was good harborage for their shallop, when she was ready. So their time limited them being expired, they returned to the ship lest they should be in fear of their safety; and took with them part of the corn and buried up the rest. And so. like the men from Eshcol, carried with them the fruits of the land and showed their brethren; of which, and their return, they were marvelously glad and their hearts encouraged." The next expedition they also took some corn and beans from some indian houses whose inhabitants "were run away and could not be seen". "And here is to be noted a special providence of God, and a great mercy to this poor people, that here they got seed to plant them corn the next year, or else they might have starved, for they had none nor any likelihood to gen any till the season had been past, as the sequel did manifest. Neither is it likely they had had this, if the first voyage had not been made, for the ground was now all covered with snow and hard frozen; but the Lord is never wanting unto His in their greatest needs; let His hold name have all the praise." Yes, they stole the corn and beans, but Bradford makes it clear later that the Pilgrims did their best to befriend the Native Americans and thank them for their help by helping and teaching each other. Robert Luce (A Chilton Descendant through Solomon Leonard) Mildred wrote: > I have just seen a newsletter from a church which states that the >Pilgrims "stole" the seed corn from the Native Americans and never >thanked them for it. > >I know this is off-topic, but things like that bother me, and I don't >know any sources with which to refute statements like these. Can >someone recommend a history of the colony, or would Wm. >Bradford's account be the best? > >Thanks. > >Mildred Mallek (Bradford descendant) > > -- Robert Luce <rluce@pacbell.net> --- Il faut supporter deux ou trois chenilles --- si on veut connaître les papillons.. --- -Antoine de Saint Exupéry

    11/24/2002 01:34:05
    1. Re: [MFLR] RE: Pilgrims and their seed corn
    2. Denise
    3. "The Truth about the Pilgrims" addresses many "charges" against the pilgrims. Why not relax? They did "steal" the corn, right? They tried to mitigate the "theft" but ... they did "steal" it. Is it "wrong" to "steal" to eat? Is it wrong to engage in revisionist history and complain that they didn't "steal" it? --- Mildred <mallek@pensys.com> wrote: > I have just seen a newsletter from a church which states that the > Pilgrims "stole" the seed corn from the Native Americans and never > thanked them for it. > > I know this is off-topic, but things like that bother me, and I don't > know any sources with which to refute statements like these. Can > someone recommend a history of the colony, or would Wm. > Bradford's account be the best? > > Thanks. > > Mildred Mallek (Bradford descendant) > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower > Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/ > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

    11/24/2002 12:04:58
    1. [MFLR] USA Weekend magazine
    2. Terri
    3. Is this in the USA Today paper? For those of us not in the Patriot Ledger area - like me, in WA., any way we can see the article? Thank you, Terri

    11/23/2002 11:41:25
    1. Re: [MFLR] USA Weekend Magazine -- Mayflower Descendants
    2. Sheila Heap
    3. At 11:21 PM 11/23/02 -0500, you wrote: >The USA Weekend magazine for this weekend has picture of two Alden Kindred >of America members on the cover and a third in the story by Cokie Roberts. >The magazine is already out with the Patriot Ledger weekend edition and will >be in certain Sunday papers. Karen, I read it....it's a wonderful article! Sheila Sheila Heap 210 North Street Hingham, MA 02043 phone ~ 781.749.9697 fax ~ 781.749.9771

    11/23/2002 04:29:30
    1. [MFLR] USA Weekend Magazine -- Mayflower Descendants
    2. Karen Sullivan
    3. The USA Weekend magazine for this weekend has picture of two Alden Kindred of America members on the cover and a third in the story by Cokie Roberts. The magazine is already out with the Patriot Ledger weekend edition and will be in certain Sunday papers. It's a charming photo and the story is entirely positive and a plus for us all. Called "Pilgrims' Progress," it emphasizes how Mayflower descendants today come in all-American colors. A winner. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ --------------------------------- Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow.-- G.M.Trevelyan

    11/23/2002 04:21:14
    1. Re: [MFLR] mayfower
    2. Joe Pehoushek
    3. This URL is no good ....... get a "message cannot be found". Joe Pehoushek See my 10th Great Grandfather celebrate Thanksgiving at: http://www.pehoushek.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mike_powerless@yahoo.com To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: [MFLR] mayfower This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/FO.2ADI/186 Message Board Post: Descendants of Perigrine White needed please any help much appreciated

    11/23/2002 01:59:20
    1. [MFLR] Elizabeth Fuller
    2. Marianne Dunell
    3. My ancestors are Elizabeth Fuller and Thomas Upson. Up until recently I ,as probably mllion of others believed her to be of the Mathew and Edward Fuller Mayflower line. There seems to be evidence to the contrary. Is there anone ot there who knows for sure the ancestry of my Elizabeth? Thank you Maianne

    11/23/2002 03:32:01
    1. [MFLR] mayfower
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/FO.2ADI/186 Message Board Post: Descendants of Perigrine White needed please any help much appreciated

    11/22/2002 06:03:14
    1. [MFLR] Re: john howland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/3.5.91.92.102 Message Board Post: Here is something all of you related somehow to John Howland will have a good laugh at or really enjoy. He is my ancester through both my mother's and father's side. If anyone needs more information please feel free to contact me here.

    11/22/2002 05:53:28
    1. Re: Fw: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson
    2. Thank you VERY much, Susan, for sharing this valuable information. It sure makes me wonder why there's any debate/confusion among researchers about which Thomas married Dorcas Samson ~ they obviously didn't read Thomas Sr.'s will too clearly, as it leaves no doubt of who his wife was. Again, many thanks! Anna roser@iprimus.ca wrote: > To add to my previous answer - Dorcas Samson married Thomas Bonney Jr., the > son of Thomas Sr. &Mary Bonney. This according to MF 20:1:6. > > Thomas Boney "Sr." of Duxbury, in his will dated 2 Jan. 1688/9, mentions > wife Mary, unnamed children and son Thomas. > > The will of Thomas Boney (Jr.) of Duxbury, dated 29 July 1735 mentions dau > Elizabeth the wife of Ephraim Norcutt; dau Mercy now the wife of John > Curtis > and her children by her former husband Nathaniel Delanoe, viz: Nathaniel > Delano &his sisters Mercy, Lydia, Zerviah and Mary Delano. (Both wives of > Thomas - Dorcas Samson and Sarah Studley died before the will.) > > Susan. > www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > >

    11/21/2002 12:12:43
    1. Re: [MFLR] Bonney Family.
    2. Thank you for sharing this reference, it illustrates my point that there's a lot of confusion about which Thomas Bonney married Dorcas Samson! :) But, I think I'll trust the Mayflower Society's research on this one, and go with Susan's information that Dorcas married Thomas Jr. Again, thank you ~ I appreciate your help! Anna odie58@chartermi.net wrote: > History of the Hayford Family > > Author: Otis Hayford > > Call Number: CS71.G419 > Bonney Family. > > Winsor's History of Duxbury, p. 228, says: "The name is generally spelled > Boney, also Boni and Bonney. Thomas, a shoemaker, 1640, had land northwest > of North Hill, and 30 acres at Namaseekit, died 1693, married Dorcas > Sampson, 2d, Mary (???), who survived him. Had Thomas. Inherited his > father's land at Duxbury, m. Sarah Shirley, July 16, 1695. The following > were perhaps children of Thomas (2d?): Mary, m. John Mitchell, Dec. 14, > 1695; Joseph, 1710, of Duxbury, drowned 1712. (Was it not Ebeneazer?) John, > Dux., 1710; James m. Abigail Bishop, 1695, was of Dux. 1710. William had > land at Namaseekit, 1694, died or removed before 1710." (Removed to > Plympton.) Mercy m. Nathaniel Delano, 1714, and Elizabeth of Pembroke m. > Samuel Delano, 1719. > > The earliest settlers of Duxbury (1631 to 1635) were John Alden, Capt. > Miles Standish, Jonathan Brewster, Thomas Prince, Collier, and later, John > Howland, Henry Howland, Henry Sampson, Thomas Bonney, Delano, etc. These > settlers promised the Plymouth Colony: "to removed to Plymouth with their > families in the winter time for the better defence against Indians, and to > repair to the worship of God." The town was incorporated July 7, 1637. It > received its name of Duxbury out of respect to Capt. Standish, from Duxbury > Hall, the seat of the Standish family in England. > > The bounds of Duxbury originally included what is now within the limits of > Duxbury, Marshfield, Pembroke, Hanson and Bridgewaters. Marshfield was > incorporated in 1640; Bridge-water, 1656; Pembroke 1711-12. > > Henry Sampson arrived at Plymouth, 1620, in the Mayflower, m. Anne Plummer, > Feb. 6, 1635-6. He d. Dec. 24, 1684. Moved to Duxbury and was admitted a > freeman, 1637. Had Stephen. John (inherited land at Dartmouth), Caleb, > James settled in Dartmouth. Elizabeth m. Robert Sprout. Hannah m. Josiah > > Holmes, 1665. (???) m. John Hammond. Mary m. John Simmons. Dorcas m. Thomas > Bonney. (See Winsor's Hist. of Dux.) Thomas Bonney was constable of Dux., > 1643-4; an office of high trust. At the same time, James Hamlin resided in > Barnstable, and John Phinney in Plymouth; all three were holding the same > town offices. > > 1640: Thomas Boney granted lands in Duxbury, 30 acres, on > Namaseekit river, Apr. 6, 1640. > 1643: Among the list able to bear arms (16 to 60 years) in > Dux., appears the names of Thomas Bonney and > Thomas Bonney, Jr. > 1646: The names of Thomas Bonney and Henry Sampson in > Dux., appear on list of freemen able to bear arms. > 1649: Joseph Bonney's heirs were land owners. > 1652: Thomas Bonney was resident of Dux., and surveyor of > highways. > 1661: Henry Sampson, constable. 1694, Town granted William > Bonney 30 acres, lying next to J. Boney. > 1698: Thomas Boney, member of town committee. > 1699: Thomas Bonney, Jr., granted land formerly granted > Thomas Bonney. > 1702: William, James and John Boney's farms all adjoining in > Duxbury. > 1702: Town granted James Boney land formerly granted William > Boney. > 1707: Every free-holder in Dux. was granted 20 acres of the > common meadows. In list of names is found: Joseph, > Ebeneazer, John and James Boney. > 1708: John Bonney was chosen grand juror. > 1712: John, Joseph, James, Ebeneazer and Thomas, residents > of Dux. > 1712: John Bonney appears as head of family in new town of > Pembroke. > 1712: Marshfield, Nov. 28, on Tuesday, 25th, six men going > off the Gurnet beach in a whaleboat at Dux. after a > whale, by the reason of the boisterousness of the sea's > oversetting the boat, they were all drowned. William > Sprague, Ebeneazer Boney and Thomas Baker were of > Duxbury. > 1715: John Bonney deeds 18 acres land. 1750, John Boney of > Pembroke on a committee to locate meeting house.

    11/21/2002 12:06:56
    1. [MFLR] A Canadian wishing to join ..
    2. Terri
    3. Gillian -- Want to join the others in welcoming you to this great list and add agreement to all they're saying - Susan Roser is a wealth of Canadian Mayflower info and very helpful, the folks on this list are more than eager to share what they know and help any way they can. I joined the list just after I first found a huge amount of maternal side relatives and then learned they all came on the Mayflower and migrated to Nova Scotia around the late 1700's. You'll like being here! Terri

    11/21/2002 11:23:38
    1. [MFLR] Bonney Family.
    2. Sharon
    3. History of the Hayford Family Author: Otis Hayford Call Number: CS71.G419 Bonney Family. Winsor's History of Duxbury, p. 228, says: "The name is generally spelled Boney, also Boni and Bonney. Thomas, a shoemaker, 1640, had land northwest of North Hill, and 30 acres at Namaseekit, died 1693, married Dorcas Sampson, 2d, Mary (???), who survived him. Had Thomas. Inherited his father's land at Duxbury, m. Sarah Shirley, July 16, 1695. The following were perhaps children of Thomas (2d?): Mary, m. John Mitchell, Dec. 14, 1695; Joseph, 1710, of Duxbury, drowned 1712. (Was it not Ebeneazer?) John, Dux., 1710; James m. Abigail Bishop, 1695, was of Dux. 1710. William had land at Namaseekit, 1694, died or removed before 1710." (Removed to Plympton.) Mercy m. Nathaniel Delano, 1714, and Elizabeth of Pembroke m. Samuel Delano, 1719. The earliest settlers of Duxbury (1631 to 1635) were John Alden, Capt. Miles Standish, Jonathan Brewster, Thomas Prince, Collier, and later, John Howland, Henry Howland, Henry Sampson, Thomas Bonney, Delano, etc. These settlers promised the Plymouth Colony: "to removed to Plymouth with their families in the winter time for the better defence against Indians, and to repair to the worship of God." The town was incorporated July 7, 1637. It received its name of Duxbury out of respect to Capt. Standish, from Duxbury Hall, the seat of the Standish family in England. The bounds of Duxbury originally included what is now within the limits of Duxbury, Marshfield, Pembroke, Hanson and Bridgewaters. Marshfield was incorporated in 1640; Bridge-water, 1656; Pembroke 1711-12. Henry Sampson arrived at Plymouth, 1620, in the Mayflower, m. Anne Plummer, Feb. 6, 1635-6. He d. Dec. 24, 1684. Moved to Duxbury and was admitted a freeman, 1637. Had Stephen. John (inherited land at Dartmouth), Caleb, James settled in Dartmouth. Elizabeth m. Robert Sprout. Hannah m. Josiah Holmes, 1665. (???) m. John Hammond. Mary m. John Simmons. Dorcas m. Thomas Bonney. (See Winsor's Hist. of Dux.) Thomas Bonney was constable of Dux., 1643-4; an office of high trust. At the same time, James Hamlin resided in Barnstable, and John Phinney in Plymouth; all three were holding the same town offices. 1640: Thomas Boney granted lands in Duxbury, 30 acres, on Namaseekit river, Apr. 6, 1640. 1643: Among the list able to bear arms (16 to 60 years) in Dux., appears the names of Thomas Bonney and Thomas Bonney, Jr. 1646: The names of Thomas Bonney and Henry Sampson in Dux., appear on list of freemen able to bear arms. 1649: Joseph Bonney's heirs were land owners. 1652: Thomas Bonney was resident of Dux., and surveyor of highways. 1661: Henry Sampson, constable. 1694, Town granted William Bonney 30 acres, lying next to J. Boney. 1698: Thomas Boney, member of town committee. 1699: Thomas Bonney, Jr., granted land formerly granted Thomas Bonney. 1702: William, James and John Boney's farms all adjoining in Duxbury. 1702: Town granted James Boney land formerly granted William Boney. 1707: Every free-holder in Dux. was granted 20 acres of the common meadows. In list of names is found: Joseph, Ebeneazer, John and James Boney. 1708: John Bonney was chosen grand juror. 1712: John, Joseph, James, Ebeneazer and Thomas, residents of Dux. 1712: John Bonney appears as head of family in new town of Pembroke. 1712: Marshfield, Nov. 28, on Tuesday, 25th, six men going off the Gurnet beach in a whaleboat at Dux. after a whale, by the reason of the boisterousness of the sea's oversetting the boat, they were all drowned. William Sprague, Ebeneazer Boney and Thomas Baker were of Duxbury. 1715: John Bonney deeds 18 acres land. 1750, John Boney of Pembroke on a committee to locate meeting house.

    11/21/2002 10:37:10
    1. [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson
    2. Sharon
    3. I located this, hope this is of some help to you. taken from The Giles Memorial Genealogical Memoirs Author: John Adams Vinton Call Number: R929.1V79s HENRY SAMPSON1 was one of the company of Pilgrims who came in the world-renowned MAYFLOWER to Plymouth in 1620. He was a member of the family of his uncle, Edward Tilley,(*) and was too young to sign the immortal compact of November 11, in the cabin of that vessel, while at anchor in the harbor of Provincetown. He was, however, enumerated in the assignment of land, 1623, and in the division of cattle, 1627, and was admitted a freeman of Plymouth Colony in 1637. He early removed to Duxbury--probably with the first settlers of that town; and married ANN PLUMMER, Feb. 6, 1635-6.?? He was one of the original grantees of Bridgewater, 1645, but did not remove thither. He was constable of Duxbury, 1661. "This," says Winsor, "was an office of high trust and responsibility, and none were elected to it but men of good standing." He died Dec. 24, 1684. In his will, bearing date the same day, he mentions no wife, but to his sons Stephen, John, and James, gives a tract of land he had purchased in Dartmouth; to each of them a third part. To his son Caleb he gives one shilling. He also gives one shilling each to dau. Elizabeth, wife of Robert Sproat; to dau. Hannah, wife of Josiah Holmes; to his dau. (???) [name not given] "now wife of John Hammond;" to dau. Mary, wife of John Summers; to dau. Dorcas, wife of Thomas Boney. Mr. Wiswall [Rev. Ichabod Wiswall, pastor of Duxbury from 1676 to 1700] was to be overseer of the will. Thomas Delano and Joseph Chandler were witnesses. The will was exhibited before the [General] Court of Plymouth, March 5, 1684-5; and may be found in the Old Colony Records, Wills, Vol. 4, p. 94. The will thus indicates that the property of the testator, all but the Dartmouth purchase, had already been distributed among the heirs. Guided by the will, we make out the children of Henry Sampson, at the time of his death, to have been as follows: 2. Elizabeth,2 m. Robert Sproat, who was of Scituate, 1660, and died at Middleborough, in 1712. 3. Hannah,2 m. Josiah Holmes2 of Duxbury, March 20. 1665-6. For as account of her descendants, see p. 185, and sequel, of this volume. 4. A daughter, whose name is not given; m. John Hammond. See above. (*) We learn this fact from Governor Bradford's List of passengers in the Mayflower, at the end of his long-lost and lately-recovered History, published by the Massachusetts Historical Society in 1856. Bradford, in 1650, says--"the youth Henery Samson is still liveing, and is maried, and hath 7. children." From this we inter that all the children of Henry Samson in the above list were born before 1650, except Stephen and Caleb, who must have been born after that date. ?? The will of John Barnes of Plymouth, dated March 6, 1667-8, names his "cousen" the wife of Henry Sampson.  The only John Hammond known to me, who could be the husband of this daughter of Henry Sampson, was born in England, 1627, son of William and Elizabeth Hammond, who settled in Watertown as early as 1642. Assuming this to be a son-in-law of Henry Sampson, the name of the daughter was Sarah, b. 1643, d. Jan. 14, 1688, a. 45. See Bond's Watertown, p. 270. Page 374 5. (+)John,2 b. about 1645; m. Mary Pease. 6. Mary,2 m. John Summers.(*) 7. Dorcas,2 m. Thomas Bonney of Duxbury. In the will, and in the early records, the name is Boney. Thomas Boney was a shoemaker; had land in Duxbury, 1640; constable, 1643-4; d. about 1693. The husband of Dorcas was probably his son. 8. (+)James,2 m. (???). 9. (+)Stephen,2 m. Elizabeth (???). 10. (+)Caleb,2 m. Mercy Standish.

    11/21/2002 10:34:12
    1. Fw: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson
    2. Susan E. Roser
    3. To add to my previous answer - Dorcas Samson married Thomas Bonney Jr., the son of Thomas Sr. & Mary Bonney. This according to MF 20:1:6. Thomas Boney "Sr." of Duxbury, in his will dated 2 Jan. 1688/9, mentions wife Mary, unnamed children and son Thomas. The will of Thomas Boney (Jr.) of Duxbury, dated 29 July 1735 mentions dau Elizabeth the wife of Ephraim Norcutt; dau Mercy now the wife of John Curtis and her children by her former husband Nathaniel Delanoe, viz: Nathaniel Delano & his sisters Mercy, Lydia, Zerviah and Mary Delano. (Both wives of Thomas - Dorcas Samson and Sarah Studley died before the will.) Susan. www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan E. Roser" <roser@iprimus.ca> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <CelestialProse@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Fw: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson > Anna, > > Fortunately there is no controversy as to Dorcas Samson's marriage to Thomas > Bonney. She is called his wife in the will of her father, Henry Samson. > The MF Samson book fully recognizes this marriage and her descendants. > > Susan E. Roser > www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CelestialProse@aol.com> > To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:30 AM > Subject: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson > > > > There seems to be cosiderable controversy over whether Dorcas Samson, > > daughter of Mayflower passenger Henry Samson, was the wife of Thomas > Bonney, > > Sr. or Jr. The somewhat outdated Bonney genealogy that I consulted states > > that Thomas Bonney, Sr. married Mary Hunt and that Thomas Jr. married > Dorcas > > Samson, but there seems to be some controversy among Bonney descendants > about > > this scenario, with some claiming that there was only one Thomas, married > to > > both women, some claiming that there were two unrelated Thomas Bonneys, > some > > claiming that there was one and that one wife (or the other) was the > mother > > of all of his children, etc., etc., etc. > > > > I emailed my state's chapter of the Mayflower Society to see if they > accept > > any lines through Dorcas and Thomas, or had any information to sort out > the > > multiple theories, but never received a response. There don't seem to be > too > > many reliable secondary sources on this family, and the internet is full > of > > misinformation, so I thought this list would be a good place to start. I > > would appreciate any good discussion on this family, source referals, > > opinions, etc. > > > > FYI, my line comes through James Bonney who married Desire Billington and > > Abigail Bishop ~ incidently I have a proven Henry Samson line a few > > generations down from here! > > > > Many thanks, > > Anna > > > > ______________________________ >

    11/21/2002 03:36:11
    1. [MFLR] David Warren Fuller: Wisconsin/Vermont
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/185 Message Board Post: I have not been able to find much information on David or who his parents were, does anyone have this family in their research? Descendants of David Warren Fuller Generation No. 1 1. DAVID WARREN1 FULLER was born March 02, 1785 in Vermont, and died June 10, 1872 in Milford,Wi/Aztalan, Wi. Cem. Jefferson Co., Wi.. He married SALLIE(SARAH). She was born May 01, 1792. Children of DAVID FULLER and SALLIE(SARAH) are: 2. i ALBERT2 FULLER, b. 1829; d. March 23, 1860, Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi. Generation No. 2 2. ALBERT2 FULLER (DAVID WARREN1) was born 1829, and died March 23, 1860 in Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi.. He married KEZIA ( HEZEKIAH) UDEY November 01, 1853 in Aztalan,Jefferson Co., Wi., daughter of JOSEPH UDEY and MARYETT. She was born June 10, 1837 in Paris, England, and died September 13, 1913 in Rutland, Dane Co., Wi.. Children of ALBERT FULLER and KEZIA UDEY are: 4. i. WILLIAM WALLACE3 FULLER, b. October 08, 1855, Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. October 14, 1931, Merrimac, Sauk Co., Wi... 5. ii. MARY ETTA FULLER, b. July 18, 1857, Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. November 03, 1946, Janesville, Wi., Rock Co., Oakhill Cem.. 6. iii. WESLEY E. FULLER, b. November 11, 1858, Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. 1931, Auraville, Waushara Co, Wi... iv ALBERTO FULLER, b. October 19, 1861, Milford, Jefferson Co.,Wi.; m. FANNIE SHERMAN, March 02, 1889, Winsor, Dane Co., Wi.. More About ALBERTO FULLER: Fact 1: Nickname: Bert v. <UNNAMED Generation No. 3 4. WILLIAM WALLACE3 FULLER (ALBERT2, DAVID WARREN1) was born October 08, 1855 in Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi., and died October 14, 1931 in Merrimac, Sauk Co., Wi... He married GERTRUDE CARR February 24, 1877 in Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi., daughter of JAMES CARR and MARY CROCKER. She was born 1852, and died 1936 in Merrimac Sauk Co., Wi.. Notes for WILLIAM WALLACE FULLER: One of the Daug.s of William and Keziah lived in Sauk City, Wi. and one lived in Greenbay, Wi. William Wallace lived in Merrimack for 61 years and died at his home on the morning of Oct. 15, 1931. Children of WILLIAM FULLER and GERTRUDE CARR are: i. HATTIE MARGARETTA4 FULLER, b. February 29, 1880; m. EMMETT ANTHONY. ii. CARRIE MAY FULLER, b. June 05, 1882; d. 1939, Winsor, Dane Co., Wi.? Merrimac, Wi. Cem.; m. GREEN. iii. EDNA K. FULLER, b. June 29, 1884; d. 1939, Winsor, Dane Co., Wi.? Merrimac, Wi. Cem.; m. POWERS. iv. CHILD (WARD OF STATE SCHOOL). 5. MARY ETTA3 FULLER (ALBERT2, DAVID WARREN1) was born July 18, 1857 in Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi., and died November 03, 1946 in Janesville, Wi., Rock Co., Oakhill Cem.. She married HENRY ALEXANDER BLACK July 01, 1885 in Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wi., son of WILLIAM BLACK and ELISA BARBER. He was born July 05, 1855 in Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wi., and died March 11, 1943 in Janesville, Wi , Oakhill Cem.. Children of MARY FULLER and HENRY BLACK are: i. ROY ALEXANDER4 BLACK, b. March 12, 1886, Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. February 07, 1978, Stoughton, Wi. Riverside Cem.; m. BERTHA E. LIEN. ii. EMMA BLACK, b. October 06, 1889, Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. May 07, 1939, Janesville, Rock Co., Wi. Oakhill Cem.; m. GEORGE H. WHITING, February 06, 1909, Madison, Wi.. iii. CLARENCE BLACK, b. March 10, 1893, Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi.; d. November 17, 1952, Janesville, Rock Co., Wi. Oakhill Cem.; m. JESSICA NERISSA CALHOUN, April 23, 1925, Rockford, Illinois. iv. GEORGE BLACK, b. 1895; d. February 14, 1896, Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi.. v. DAVID MOURICE BLACK, b. 1897; d. January 18, 1901, Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi.. vi. HENRY BLACK, b. September 09, 1897; d. September 23, 1897, Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi.. 6. WESLEY E.3 FULLER (ALBERT2, DAVID WARREN1) was born November 11, 1858 in Milford, Jefferson Co., Wi., and died 1931 in Auraville, Waushara Co, Wi... He married CAROLINE G. 1882 in Berlin, Waushara Co., Wi.. She was born 1865, and died 1937 in Auraville, Waushara Co, Wi... Children of WESLEY FULLER and CAROLINE G. are: i. CHILD4 FULLER. ii. CHILD FULLER. iii. CHILD FULLER. iv. CHILD FULLER.

    11/21/2002 03:26:27
    1. Fw: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson
    2. Susan E. Roser
    3. Anna, Fortunately there is no controversy as to Dorcas Samson's marriage to Thomas Bonney. She is called his wife in the will of her father, Henry Samson. The MF Samson book fully recognizes this marriage and her descendants. Susan E. Roser www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <CelestialProse@aol.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:30 AM Subject: [MFLR] Thomas Bonney & Dorcas Samson > There seems to be cosiderable controversy over whether Dorcas Samson, > daughter of Mayflower passenger Henry Samson, was the wife of Thomas Bonney, > Sr. or Jr. The somewhat outdated Bonney genealogy that I consulted states > that Thomas Bonney, Sr. married Mary Hunt and that Thomas Jr. married Dorcas > Samson, but there seems to be some controversy among Bonney descendants about > this scenario, with some claiming that there was only one Thomas, married to > both women, some claiming that there were two unrelated Thomas Bonneys, some > claiming that there was one and that one wife (or the other) was the mother > of all of his children, etc., etc., etc. > > I emailed my state's chapter of the Mayflower Society to see if they accept > any lines through Dorcas and Thomas, or had any information to sort out the > multiple theories, but never received a response. There don't seem to be too > many reliable secondary sources on this family, and the internet is full of > misinformation, so I thought this list would be a good place to start. I > would appreciate any good discussion on this family, source referals, > opinions, etc. > > FYI, my line comes through James Bonney who married Desire Billington and > Abigail Bishop ~ incidently I have a proven Henry Samson line a few > generations down from here! > > Many thanks, > Anna > > ______________________________

    11/20/2002 02:43:41