--- Dale H Cook <radiotest@juno.com> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:10:45 -0500 "scanbar" > <scanbar@prodigy.net> > writes: > > > Can anyone identify Perez Sampson who married > Sally Weston living > > around 1800 p[ossibly in Kingston, MA or its area? > > Barbara - > > What complicates this question is the presence of > two men of about the > same age named Perez Samson / Sampson in Plymouth > Co. One m. Sally Weston > Jan-1803 in Duxbury, the other m. Lucinda Hatch > 30-Apr-1801 in Pembroke. > > Duxbury VRs lists the following Sampson births: > > Perez H., h. of Sally, 13-Jul-1779 > > > In Pembroke VRs I found the birth of: > > Perez Samson, (posthumous) s. of Perez and Mary, > 25-May-1776 > Whether this is Perez h. of Sally, or Perez h. of > Lucinda, I do not know. Dale and Barbara, Pembroke VR p. 447 has death of Perez, h. of Lucinda, July 27, 1823, at age 48 (which I think means in 48th year), which, if true, would suggest he's the son of Perez and Mary (Taylor) Sampson, and he is not the Perez who married Sally Weston. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Dale, Is it possible there was another Perez who married Sally Weston? I know I found somewhere - I think it was in Kingston,- that he and Sally Weston were the parents of Sally W. who married Nathaniel Lewis Chandler. It always made sense to me because Sally having a middle initial of W. could very well stand for Weston, her mother's maiden name. Sally and Nathaniel were married in Kingston but I believe resided in Duxbury. Thanks Barbara scanbar@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H Cook" <radiotest@juno.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] SAMPSON > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:10:45 -0500 "scanbar" <scanbar@prodigy.net> > writes: > > > Can anyone identify Perez Sampson who married Sally Weston living > > around 1800 p[ossibly in Kingston, MA or its area? > > Barbara - > > What complicates this question is the presence of two men of about the > same age named Perez Samson / Sampson in Plymouth Co. One m. Sally Weston > Jan-1803 in Duxbury, the other m. Lucinda Hatch 30-Apr-1801 in Pembroke. > > Duxbury VRs lists the following Sampson births: > > Perez H., h. of Sally, 13-Jul-1779 > Sally, w. Perez H., 25-Jul-1783 > > Children of Perez H. and Sally - > Jane W., 12-Jun-1809 > Perez H. Jr., 24-Feb-1811 > Sally W., 30-Sep-1812 > Ariadna, 15-Jan-1815 > Josephine, 03-Apr-1817 > Louisa, 29-Dec-1819 > Andrew 24-Nov-1822 > > And this marriage: > > Perez H. Sampson and Sally Weston, Jan-1803 (no intention) > > > In Pembroke VRs I found the birth of: > > Perez Samson, (posthumous) s. of Perez and Mary, 25-May-1776 (These would > be Perez Sampson of Duxbury and Mary Taylor, m. 01-Oct-1761 in Pembroke) > > Whether this is Perez h. of Sally, or Perez h. of Lucinda, I do not know. > > Offhand I tend to suspect that both husbands named Perez are descendants > of Abraham Sampson, and not Henry Samson, because I see no sign of them > in the Bowman Files. > > Dale H. Cook > USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns > http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html > > ______________________________

Gracious. I should have reread my quickly typed note -- and corrected the typos BEFORE hitting "send." (Sorry)... :-/ I MEANT TO SAY: I agree. I think WE ALL deeply miss Mr. Chandler's contributions [to] the Mayflower list. His posts were always so informative, and thought-provoking. At times I find myself thinking, "I wonder [what] insight Harlow Chandler could provide on this topic??" Peace & blessings, C.M. <>< ======================================================> > -- snip snip -- > In a message dated 1/31/2003 7:40:46 AM Central Standard Time, > MABCam@aol.com > writes: > > > New topic: It's been ages since I've read anything from Harlow Chandler. I > > > miss his civilized, scholarly messages. Does anyone know where he's gone? > > > > Thank you, > > Mignon Cameron > > <MABCAM@aol.com> > > > > >

I agree. I think WE ALL deeply miss Mr. Chandler's contributions the Mayflower list. His posts were always so informative, and thought-provoking/ At times I find myself thinking, "I wonder how what insight Harlow Chandler could provide on this topic??" Peace & blessings, C.M. <>< ===================================================== In a message dated 1/31/2003 7:40:46 AM Central Standard Time, MABCam@aol.com writes: -- snip snip -- > New topic: It's been ages since I've read anything from Harlow Chandler. I > miss his civilized, scholarly messages. Does anyone know where he's gone? > > Thank you, > Mignon Cameron > <MABCAM@aol.com> >

Oh, I enjoyed Mr. Chandler's invitation to Mr. Sheehan to share his remarkable research on the White family with everyone. Erudite and smile-provoking. I can hardly wait for Mr. Sheehan's reply... Having said that, I hope this finds Mr. Chandler in robust good health, as I, too, miss his posts. I read them all, even when they do not appear to pertain to any of my families. Shannon On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 MayTHREE@aol.com wrote: > I agree. > I think WE ALL deeply miss Mr. Chandler's contributions [to] the > Mayflower list. > His posts were always so informative, and thought-provoking. > > At times I find myself thinking, "I wonder [what] insight Harlow Chandler > could provide on this topic??" > > > ======================================================> > > MABCam@aol.com > > writes: > > > > > New topic: It's been ages since I've read anything from Harlow Chandler. I > > > > > miss his civilized, scholarly messages. Does anyone know where he's gone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shannon Smith || a@b.c where a="cantante" and b="xocolatl" and c="com" "Employment gives health, sobriety, and morals. Constant employment and well-paid labor produce general prosperity, content, and cheerfulness." --Daniel Webster "It's the economy, stupid!" --unknown Clinton staffer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/193.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, You may obtain my book by mailing your check for $27.95, including S&H, payable to me to: Robert D. Sheehan 190 Nevins Av. Longmeadow, MA. 01106-3123 Thanks, Bob Sheehan

In a message dated 1/31/2003 5:41:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Bridget1939@aol.com writes: > Does anyone know if the Stephen Hopkins of the Mayflower is related to the > Stephen Hopkins who signed the Declaration of Independence? Thanks > I recall that, according to "Notable Kin" by Gary Boyd Roberts, there is no relation. However, I think that there was a signer of either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution that was a descendant of Stephen Hopkins. Perhaps someone who has the Stephen Hopkins Silver Book may be able to shed further light on this. Rick in AZ (a descendant of Chilton, Cooke, Hopkins, Soule and Warren)

Dear MFLR Listers, Today, when clearing spam, I accidentally deleted a current message from someone who has self-published a family history and is offering it to interested MFLR people. I'm working on a similar family project and would like to ask him about costs. Can the listmaster or another kind party please forward his message to me or otherwise put me in touch with him? I deleted in such haste that I can't remember his name (blush). New topic: It's been ages since I've read anything from Harlow Chandler. I miss his civilized, scholarly messages. Does anyone know where he's gone? Thank you, Mignon Cameron <MABCAM@aol.com>

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:10:45 -0500 "scanbar" <scanbar@prodigy.net> writes: > Can anyone identify Perez Sampson who married Sally Weston living > around 1800 p[ossibly in Kingston, MA or its area? Barbara - What complicates this question is the presence of two men of about the same age named Perez Samson / Sampson in Plymouth Co. One m. Sally Weston Jan-1803 in Duxbury, the other m. Lucinda Hatch 30-Apr-1801 in Pembroke. Duxbury VRs lists the following Sampson births: Perez H., h. of Sally, 13-Jul-1779 Sally, w. Perez H., 25-Jul-1783 Children of Perez H. and Sally - Jane W., 12-Jun-1809 Perez H. Jr., 24-Feb-1811 Sally W., 30-Sep-1812 Ariadna, 15-Jan-1815 Josephine, 03-Apr-1817 Louisa, 29-Dec-1819 Andrew 24-Nov-1822 And this marriage: Perez H. Sampson and Sally Weston, Jan-1803 (no intention) In Pembroke VRs I found the birth of: Perez Samson, (posthumous) s. of Perez and Mary, 25-May-1776 (These would be Perez Sampson of Duxbury and Mary Taylor, m. 01-Oct-1761 in Pembroke) Whether this is Perez h. of Sally, or Perez h. of Lucinda, I do not know. Offhand I tend to suspect that both husbands named Perez are descendants of Abraham Sampson, and not Henry Samson, because I see no sign of them in the Bowman Files. Dale H. Cook USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html

Does anyone know if the Stephen Hopkins of the Mayflower is related to the Stephen Hopkins who signed the Declaration of Independence? Thanks

Can anyone identify Perez Sampson who married Sally Weston living around 1800 p[ossibly in Kingston, MA or its area? Thanks Barbara scanbar@prodigy.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/193.1 Message Board Post: Hi Bob, You wrote: "I have self-published a book on the ancestry of William White of the Mayflower. Email me to obtain price and how to order. Regards, Bob Sheehan" On another message board you explained to a White descendant that your, " book covers White Ancestry from AD55 to 1620. This is common to us all. From 1620 to the present covers only my descendancy as there are more than 320,000 descendent families of the Mayflower Whites who are still alive today." This is an ancestry of which I would guess a great many White descendants are not aware, and I'm sure it will provoke a lively interest on the Rootsweb Mayflower mailing list to which your message will be forwarded. Inasmuch as these boards are for the exchange of genealogical information and specifically not for advertising (as noted in the "message board rules" linked at the bottom of the page) I'd like to accept your implied invitation and ask you to share what you have learned about the ancestry of William and how you did that. I'm not subscribed to the mailing list, so I'm hoping you will reply on this board and I'm looking forward to hearing about your research.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/193 Message Board Post: I have self-published a book on the ancestry of William White of the Mayflower. Email me to obtain price and how to order. Regards, Bob Sheehan

This reminds me of an incident which took place three years ago. I had recently moved to this retirement community in Central NH. I was having a conversation with a neighbor--told him of a 90+ year old member, who had complained, a few years before---that 7 or 8 members of the community had died that winter. I said to her: "Alice, keep your doors locked !!!" And this man said to me, "Isn't that why we're all up here--standing in line?" A month later, he died suddenly in Florida........ Ruth T. in NH ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jackiewun@aol.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:16 AM Subject: [MFLR] not morbid and depressing > I liked it too.....and after all.....isn't it true? > > Jackie > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > >

I like what was said below - I have often thought the same thing - All of the people that have been on 'our' earth before us - when it was their time here, they had the same feelings and problems. As a child when I saw my shadow or watched it rain, laid on my back and found images in the big white fluffy clouds - heard the ocean roar - or ran as fast as I could down a hill - It came to me that when George Washington, Abraham Lincoln - the Indian tribes - everyone in every part of the earth including of course our ancestors - they all saw and felt the same things I was experiencing - how fast could they run down a hill and what did they do when they saw their shadows - I remember when I was a child and I chased my shadow - just as our ancestors did when they were young, and now as a 'grown up' when I see my shadow, I often think of those who have gone on before me - am I in the same spot where they saw their shadows - it brings a lot of things into focus doesn't it? Not much has changed has it? Well, a wee bit, I am now chasing my ancestors cuz I am all grown up now and I don't chase my shadow any more - Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com "Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly be gone like ghosts at cockcrow." -- G.M.Trevelyan Please accept my sincerest apologies. I'm terribly sorry you found this quote so offensive. I shall remove it immediately and not use it again. Karen Sullivan Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/

I liked it too.....and after all.....isn't it true? Jackie

Kim, Can you get a copy of the adoption paper work? I would think that your original birth record would still exist, but could be closed. My wife did this years ago when she needed proof of her nature parents. Lee Warriner genealogy at www.justgen.com Excellent Genealogy Chat room -----Original Message----- From: Kim Wilson [mailto:kimberly.wilson12@gte.net] Subject: Re: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- Hello all, I'm new here, and I apologize if I'm asking a question that I could easily research, but I thought this might be a good place to start and that someone might impart their infinite wisdom on this subject. Also I was wanting to find someone perhaps in the same situation that might want to converse. I have my family tree and am a descendent of Richard Warren. The "problem" comes in here: I was adopted and my original birth record was destroyed. I am, however, listed on my biological family tree. So I'm not quite sure how to go about proving the person listed and I are one and the same. I hope this isn't a stupid question! Many Thanks, Kim This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email and delete this communication and destroy all copies.

I recently viewed a program on TV and I thought I understood them to say that the Beam of The Mayflower was incorporated into the building of a Home perhaps in New England. Can any share any information on my question. I am a descendent of Stephen Hopkins. Thanks & God Bless, Priscilla

Karen and other Mayflower Mailing List Members: Keep right on using the quote, because I don't find it offensive, either. We all have our favorite sayings and quotes about genealogy, that we might close an e-mail with or even use as a signature, and I found this researching. I really like this one, because I don't think of my ancestors as "Dead and Gone." I even hesitate to say about any of my ancestors, "They WERE my 10th-great-grandparents," because they STILL ARE my 10th-great-grandparents! The Advantage of Being a Genealogist: "The advantage of having genealogy as a hobby is illustrated by what a friend once told Mrs. James K. Cockrell, a Society member. He said: "Think what a lovely time you will have in Heaven! When the rest of us die, we will only know the people we have met on earth, but you will have all these hundreds of others to chat with and enough questions to ask them to last 'til Eternity!" - The National Genealogical Society Quarterly (Probably over a century or two ago) This quote always warms my heart and gives me a chuckle! I can just picture myself up there, talking to O'le George Washington JONES and asking him, "Okay, Great-Grandpa, did you do the right thing and divorce Susanah before you married her sister Sarah? If so, please tell me where you got married and where you got divorced from Susanah, okay, Great-Grandpa?" Okay, now, back to some research problems, Lois E. Kortering There are only a handful of documents I need before I can finish filling out the Mayflower application forms, because other family members have proved from Stephen Hopkins through the Elizabeth C. DOAN/ John Burge JONES marriage. I only have to prove from James Allen JONES & Jane FISH forward to myself, but there are a few stumbling blocks, such as my great-grandfather, George Washington JONES, being married to two sisters, Susanah and my great-grandmother, Sarah (WALLING) and having eight children with each sister, a couple of them, even overlapping! Finding a marriage record for Sarah and George has not been successful, so far. Also, getting birth records out of Wisconsin is not easy, because they are not recorded doubly at the state level as they are in Michigan. In Wisconsin it is necessary to know the exact location and county of the birth. My Mayflower lineage: Stephen HOPKINS/Mary (Unknown maiden name) > Constance HOPKINS/Nicholas SNOW > John SNOW/Mary SMALLEY > Hannah Ruhamah SNOW/Hezekiah DOANE (s/o Ephraim and Mary/Mercy KNOWLES DOANE. Mary SMALLEY married Epraim late in life, so a step-sister, Hannah SNOW, married her step-brother Hezekiah DOANE) > Hezekiah DOANE II/Thankful BICKFORD > Hezekiah DOANE III/Sarah BLAND > Hezekiah DOAN IV/Nancy ALLEN . Elizabeth C. DOAN/John Burge JONES > James Allen JONES/Jane FISH > George Washington JONES/Sarah WALLING > Leota Belle JONES/Orson Mitchel GRIFFES > Orlon Mitchel GRIFFES/Olive Viola McDONALD > Lois Emorene Griffes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Buck" <mrbuck@attbi.com> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: RE: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > Yes I agree. IT isn't morbid..its true. We are here only for a short > time and then we are gone. That is the truth..nothing morbid about it. > We live and breath on this earth and then we die. Look how many > centuries the earth has been and then look at how many years a person > lives on average and it is so short a time. Trace your ancestors back a > few or many generations and there are still more generations to > cover--they do vanish one right after another and so will we. It's a > fact of life. If you find this statement morbid, I wonder what you > think of life really then. > > Michelle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilma Fleming Haynes [mailto:gencon@harborside.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:06 AM > To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > > > I like what was said below - I have often thought the same thing - All > of the people that have been on 'our' earth before us - when it was > their time here, they had the same feelings and problems. > > As a child when I saw my shadow or watched it rain, laid on my back and > found images in the big white fluffy clouds - heard the ocean roar - or > ran as fast as I could down a hill - It came to me that when George > Washington, Abraham Lincoln - the Indian tribes - everyone in every part > of the earth including of course our ancestors - they all saw and felt > the same things I was experiencing - how fast could they run down a hill > and what did they do when they saw their shadows - > > I remember when I was a child and I chased my shadow - just as our > ancestors did when they were young, and now as a 'grown up' when I see > my shadow, I often think of those who have gone on before me - am I in > the same spot where they saw their shadows - it brings a lot of things > into focus doesn't it? > > Not much has changed has it? Well, a wee bit, I am now chasing my > ancestors cuz I am all grown up now and I don't chase my shadow any more > - > > Wilma Fleming Haynes > gencon@harborside.com > > > "Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked > other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own > thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation > vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly > be gone like ghosts at cockcrow." -- G.M.Trevelyan > > Please accept my sincerest apologies. I'm terribly sorry you found this > quote so offensive. I shall remove it immediately and not use it again. > > Karen Sullivan > Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants > at http://www.mayflower.org/ > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/ >

Should have changed that subject line! Mea culpa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Wilson" <kimberly.wilson12@gte.net> To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > Hello all, > > I'm new here, and I apologize if I'm asking a question that I could easily > research, but I thought this might be a good place to start and that someone > might impart their infinite wisdom on this subject. Also I was wanting to > find someone perhaps in the same situation that might want to converse. > > I have my family tree and am a descendent of Richard Warren. The "problem" > comes in here: I was adopted and my original birth record was destroyed. I > am, however, listed on my biological family tree. So I'm not quite sure how > to go about proving the person listed and I are one and the same. > > I hope this isn't a stupid question! > > Many Thanks, > > Kim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois" <lekort@attbi.com> > To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > > > > Karen and other Mayflower Mailing List Members: > > > > Keep right on using the quote, because I don't find it offensive, either. > > > > We all have our favorite sayings and quotes about genealogy, that we might > close an e-mail with or even use as a signature, and I found this > researching. I really like this one, because I don't think of my ancestors > as "Dead and Gone." I even hesitate to say about any of my ancestors, "They > WERE my 10th-great-grandparents," because they STILL ARE my > 10th-great-grandparents! > > > > The Advantage of Being a Genealogist: > > > > "The advantage of having genealogy as a hobby is illustrated by what a > friend once told Mrs. James K. Cockrell, a Society member. He said: "Think > what a lovely time you will have in Heaven! When the rest of us die, we > will only know the people we have met on earth, but you will have all these > hundreds of others to chat with and enough questions to ask them to last > 'til Eternity!" > > - The National Genealogical Society Quarterly (Probably over a century or > two ago) > > > > This quote always warms my heart and gives me a chuckle! I can just > picture myself up there, talking to O'le George Washington JONES and asking > him, "Okay, Great-Grandpa, did you do the right thing and divorce Susanah > before you married her sister Sarah? If so, please tell me where you got > married and where you got divorced from Susanah, okay, Great-Grandpa?" > > > > Okay, now, back to some research problems, > > > > Lois E. Kortering > > > > There are only a handful of documents I need before I can finish filling > out the Mayflower application forms, because other family members have > proved from Stephen Hopkins through the Elizabeth C. DOAN/ John Burge JONES > marriage. I only have to prove from James Allen JONES & Jane FISH forward > to myself, but there are a few stumbling blocks, such as my > great-grandfather, George Washington JONES, being married to two sisters, > Susanah and my great-grandmother, Sarah (WALLING) and having eight children > with each sister, a couple of them, even overlapping! Finding a marriage > record for Sarah and George has not been successful, so far. Also, getting > birth records out of Wisconsin is not easy, because they are not recorded > doubly at the state level as they are in Michigan. In Wisconsin it is > necessary to know the exact location and county of the birth. > > > > My Mayflower lineage: > > > > Stephen HOPKINS/Mary (Unknown maiden name) > Constance HOPKINS/Nicholas > SNOW > John SNOW/Mary SMALLEY > Hannah Ruhamah SNOW/Hezekiah DOANE (s/o > Ephraim and Mary/Mercy KNOWLES DOANE. Mary SMALLEY married Epraim late in > life, so a step-sister, Hannah SNOW, married her step-brother Hezekiah > DOANE) > Hezekiah DOANE II/Thankful BICKFORD > Hezekiah DOANE III/Sarah > BLAND > Hezekiah DOAN IV/Nancy ALLEN . Elizabeth C. DOAN/John Burge JONES > > James Allen JONES/Jane FISH > George Washington JONES/Sarah WALLING > Leota > Belle JONES/Orson Mitchel GRIFFES > Orlon Mitchel GRIFFES/Olive Viola > McDONALD > Lois Emorene Griffes. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michelle Buck" <mrbuck@attbi.com> > > To: <MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:19 AM > > Subject: RE: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > > > > > > > Yes I agree. IT isn't morbid..its true. We are here only for a short > > > time and then we are gone. That is the truth..nothing morbid about it. > > > We live and breath on this earth and then we die. Look how many > > > centuries the earth has been and then look at how many years a person > > > lives on average and it is so short a time. Trace your ancestors back a > > > few or many generations and there are still more generations to > > > cover--they do vanish one right after another and so will we. It's a > > > fact of life. If you find this statement morbid, I wonder what you > > > think of life really then. > > > > > > Michelle > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wilma Fleming Haynes [mailto:gencon@harborside.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:06 AM > > > To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [MFLR] Oh, it's not Morbid and depressing-- > > > > > > > > > I like what was said below - I have often thought the same thing - All > > > of the people that have been on 'our' earth before us - when it was > > > their time here, they had the same feelings and problems. > > > > > > As a child when I saw my shadow or watched it rain, laid on my back and > > > found images in the big white fluffy clouds - heard the ocean roar - or > > > ran as fast as I could down a hill - It came to me that when George > > > Washington, Abraham Lincoln - the Indian tribes - everyone in every part > > > of the earth including of course our ancestors - they all saw and felt > > > the same things I was experiencing - how fast could they run down a hill > > > and what did they do when they saw their shadows - > > > > > > I remember when I was a child and I chased my shadow - just as our > > > ancestors did when they were young, and now as a 'grown up' when I see > > > my shadow, I often think of those who have gone on before me - am I in > > > the same spot where they saw their shadows - it brings a lot of things > > > into focus doesn't it? > > > > > > Not much has changed has it? Well, a wee bit, I am now chasing my > > > ancestors cuz I am all grown up now and I don't chase my shadow any more > > > - > > > > > > Wilma Fleming Haynes > > > gencon@harborside.com > > > > > > > > > "Once, on this earth, once, on this familiar spot of ground, walked > > > other men and women, as actual as we are today, thinking their own > > > thoughts, swayed by their own passions, but now all gone, one generation > > > vanishing after another, gone as utterly as we ourselves shall shortly > > > be gone like ghosts at cockcrow." -- G.M.Trevelyan > > > > > > Please accept my sincerest apologies. I'm terribly sorry you found this > > > quote so offensive. I shall remove it immediately and not use it again. > > > > > > Karen Sullivan > > > Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > > > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants > > > at http://www.mayflower.org/ > > > > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > > > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants > at http://www.mayflower.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > > Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at > http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . > > > > > > > ==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== > Check out the web page of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants at http://www.mayflower.org/ >