I am willing to help with a Cooke society. Never started anything like this but maybe if we contacted each other off line we could see where we stand. Anyone else want to help? Valeria Cooke descendant Mayflower Society General #69,119 ( For Francis Cooke )

Some have asked why certain Mayflower families have no family society. As Gail pointed out, someone has to be interested enough to start one. There has to be interest and support, not just in the short term but for the long haul in getting in going and keeping it going. I pointed out in my last post that some of these societies are small and need support or they will go under. The Francis Eaton Society is apparently one of these - I have heard that it has already expired. Some were begun and then floundered because of lack of support - Warren Cousins for example was founded by an extremely enthusiastic person, however when she died, so did the society. It has since been resurrected. Anyone who is interested in helping to get a family society going should get a few interested people together to get the ball rolling and then advertise in The Mayflower Quarterly and The Mayflower Descendant to see if there is enough interest among their particular family. Also - check out the websites of some of the other families to get some ideas as to what you can do with your family society. Brown, Chilton, Cooke, Hopkins, More, Mullins, Priest, Samson, Standish, Tilly - they all need family societies. With the number of descendants in the Cooke, Hopkins and Samson families I would have thought they would already have a society. Susan E. Roser www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/161.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Vic, Thank you for responding to my inquiry about the White connection. I have eleven generations of Mayflower Whites in my lineage. William, Peregrine, Daniel, Eleazer, Nehemiah, Seth, Abel, John, Asa, James and (my grandmother) Mary Elizabeth. The Mayflower Society provided information for the first five generations and I need to prove the rest. I have found census and/or death certificates for the rest except Seth White. Did you join the Mayflower Society? Linda Berger

For all: I teach a class at least once a year, subject: "The living person you contact can be worth more than all the papers you find", with many, many examples. I have made several TERRIFIC contacts by joining GSMD (NY). I have made lifetime friends (most of them very remote cousins), and it has been a marvelous experience, especially when I have met them in person! They try to help me in my research, and I try to help them in their research. Whether it's Mayflower lineage you seek, or any other family, it you can find someone else researching the same family, you may learn and/or share a lot, and maybe find a friend for life. "The living person you contact can be worth more than all the papers you find". Best wishes to all in finding new friends and correct lineage. Marty Irons All outgoing messages screened by Norton anti-virus 2002, which daily updates the virus definitions whenever they change.

QUESTION: Do you have Rowland Powell (b. abt. 1730, Lebanon, New London, CT) and Mary Ann Richardson (b. abt.1728/29, Willington, Tolland, CT) as the parents of Elisha Powell? Thank you... Peace & blessings, Cathy PORTER-Maynard <>< ================================================== In a message dated 2/10/2003 12:30:51 PM Central Standard Time, fourthestate@fcgnetworks.net writes: > Subj:[MFLR] COOKE-TOMSON-REED-KING-WOODWARD-POWELL-ALGER > Date:2/10/2003 12:30:51 PM Central Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:fourthestate@fcgnetworks.net">fourthestate@fcgnetworks.net</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com">MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > Looking for what information the Francis Cooke 5 Generation Silver Book > provides on: > 1. Francis Cooke m. Hester Mahieu > 2. Mary Cooke m. John Tomson > 3. Hester Tomson m. William Reed > 4. Sarah Reed m. Hezekiah King > 5. Mary King m. Henry Woodward > 6. Eunice Woodward m. Elisha Powell > 7. Lucina Powell m. Aaron Alger > Specifically, are the first five generations correct? The generations from > No. 6 forward is not a problem. >

Sue, I thought your question was an honest one and not mean spirited at all. Joining a Society is really a matter of personal objective. I don't belong to an individual Society but I may join the John Howland and/or the Warren Cousins groups. That would be strictly for my own enjoyment. I joined the Mayflower Society in honor of my grandparents. To my knowledge, I am the first one in my line to prove and join, and that is a real honor for me. The day I received my certificate, I offered up a prayer to my ancestors and thanked them. It was the culmination of much work and many "coincidences". We "worked" together for that certificate and that is why I am proud to be a member of the National Society of Mayflower Descendants. Karen Flanders Eddy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: searl, searle, white, pittenger, hesser Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/161.3.1 Message Board Post: Hi Linda-- I've had a tough time getting this reply to post-- Maybe send me an email (vic AT psu-xa.org) just in case. I haven't discovered anything new, but last summer we managed to get our hands on a couple of contrasting views pro and con on the Abel/Seth White connection. From that I can tell people a lot more knowlegeable than myself have dug thoroughly through available records. So barring a new revelation from out of the blue, I don't believe the prospect of absolute confirmation of the relationship is likely. We are working on another connection on a Mercy White who married Wyatt Searl. Wyatt's father Nathaniel married Rebecca White the daughter of Abel White (1758-1823). We suspect that Mercy was also somehow related to Abel-- perhaps as a niece or a cousin. Anyway, our family tradition emphasizes the relationship to Peregrine through Mercy rather than Rebecca. So if we can trace Mercy, maybe we'll have some luck on the other. Send me a note, and perhaps I can provide some material for you. What is your connection? Vic

<A HREF="mailto:Scottsfamilytree@aol.com">Scottsfamilytree@aol.com</A> Why do some of the Mayflower shipmates have societies, while others do not? Because nice folks like you start the Societies. Ed Sherman GSMD #64,667 of Cooke

Good question from Sue and a good answer from Karen. At first, I didn't think I wanted to join GSMD. It cost too much to gather all the certificates and papers and besides, I had done enough research in the prior 27 years to be comfortable with my results. Almost no one in my family seemed to care much, either. It was my hobby and only my dad's sister seemed to enthuse with me (although my late mother would have). But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I could leave a pretty good legacy for others in future generations who MIGHT care. And I might learn something in the process. Well, I did and I did. My lines had to been followed further than thr first 6 generations - so I had 6 or 7 generations to prove - for all 11 Mayflower connections in my family! I solved mysteries that other family researchers and distant cousins had been unable to solve. I learned great histories and fuin anecdotes. And I met new cousins - as close as second cousins - whom I had never met. And through those cousins, I obtained PICTURES of ancestors I never would have know except from documents. I now have 30 8x10 pictures hanging in my office, including one from an exquisite tintype from about 1880 and another of Julia Asentha Delano - my great-great-great-grandmother. And I have a few more coming from another cousin in Salt Lake from the other side of my family (the Paine connection to Brewster and Hopkins). So, am I glad I decided to do the work to join GSMD? For each of us, the fun in in the JOURNEY and not the end. And the SERENDIPITY that accompanies our searches makes it a glorious adventure indeed. Happy hunting. Blessings to each of you, Father John >From: KARENE1@webtv.net (~Karen E~) >To: MAYFLOWER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MFLR] Why join? >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:45:18 -0500 (EST) > >Sue, I thought your question was an honest one and not mean spirited at >all. Joining a Society is really a matter of personal objective. I >don't belong to an individual Society but I may join the John Howland >and/or the Warren Cousins groups. That would be strictly for my own >enjoyment. I joined the Mayflower Society in honor of my grandparents. >To my knowledge, I am the first one in my line to prove and join, and >that is a real honor for me. The day I received my certificate, I >offered up a prayer to my ancestors and thanked them. It was the >culmination of much work and many "coincidences". We "worked" together >for that certificate and that is why I am proud to be a member of the >National Society of Mayflower Descendants. > >Karen Flanders Eddy > > >==== MAYFLOWER Mailing List ==== >Check out the Mayflower FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)page at >http://www.macatawa.org/~crich/mayfaq.htm . _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

>and- >Is there any interest in a STEPHEN HOPKINS Family Society? >Gini Patterson >gini1223@comcast.net Hi, I've been lurking. I recently found out through another researcher that I am a Hopkins descendant. So I have a question: (and please don't take this as mean-spirited, or anything like that, because I really do want to know) Why go through the process and join the Society? I don't have any children, and only one cousin from that side of the family (who doesn't seem to interested in any of the genealogy stuff). Thanks Sue

Scott, it has to start with somebody--why not be the founder of the Cooke Society? You will go down in history! What fun that would be. Gail Adams Editor of the Howland Quarterly for the Pligrim John Howland Soc.

Why do some of the Mayflower shipmates have societies, while others do not? I am a descendant of Francis Cooke, and he has quite a few descendants, and yet does not have a society. Scott

In a message dated 2/10/03 1:30:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, fourthestate@fcgnetworks.net writes: << Specifically, are the first five generations correct? The generations from No. 6 forward is not a problem. >> Charlie ~ I checked my Francis Cooke (V.12) book......and other than that it refers to Hester Tomson as "Hester/Esther" Tomson, it shows the same info that you have....the book goes to the birth of Eunice Woodward. Dianne

On 10 Feb 2003 11:00:35 -0700 LBerger46@aol.com writes: > I am researching William and Peregrine White of Mayflower fame. I > need any information about Seth White who was born in Connecticut in > 1737, died in Greenupsburg, Kentucky in 1825 and was the son of > Nehemiah White. > > I am trying to prove my lineage for the Mayflower Society and I've > come to a block when researching Seth White. If this is the Nehemiah from Braintree who died 03-Oct-1754 in Ashford CT, then from what I see in MF5G vol. 1, this Nehemiah does appear to be a William White descendant. Perhaps someone with a newer edition of MF5G White could clarify this. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WZZU Lynchburg VA, WMNA / WMNA-FM Gretna VA

Looking for what information the Francis Cooke 5 Generation Silver Book provides on: 1. Francis Cooke m. Hester Mahieu 2. Mary Cooke m. John Tomson 3. Hester Tomson m. William Reed 4. Sarah Reed m. Hezekiah King 5. Mary King m. Henry Woodward 6. Eunice Woodward m. Elisha Powell 7. Lucina Powell m. Aaron Alger Specifically, are the first five generations correct? The generations from No. 6 forward is not a problem.

I've completed my update of Pilgrim Family Societies and have posted them at our Canadian Society web site. There are 4 societies that I have sent letters out to today, trying to find out if they are active or to confirm contacts & addresses (Allerton, Billington, Bradford, Eaton). These will be updated once I hear from each society. I just want to say that in the research I have done on these societies recently I have learned a great deal about them and am impressed at all they are trying to accomplish on behalf of, or should I say, in memory of, our ancestors. Many now have websites - check them out, they're great! The membership fees are extremely reasonable as well. Some of these societies are struggling with low membership and need support. Others are involved in projects which require our continued support. Many of them meet annually and also at Plymouth during the General Congress of the GSMD every 3 years. Sounds like they have a great time! Thanks again to those who offered help as I updated the info, it was much appreciated. Susan. www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/161.3 Message Board Post: Dear Vic, I am also trying to prove my lineage to Peregrine White and have come to a block when it comes to Seth White. Have you been able to find any more information since posting your query on this website? Anything you can share would be greatly appreciated. The only information I have is the dates and places of his birth and death. Thank you for any information you might be able to share. Linda Berger

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FO.2ADI/198 Message Board Post: I am researching William and Peregrine White of Mayflower fame. I need any information about Seth White who was born in Connecticut in 1737, died in Greenupsburg, Kentucky in 1825 and was the son of Nehemiah White. I am trying to prove my lineage for the Mayflower Society and I've come to a block when researching Seth White. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Is there any progress on a William BRADFORD book, through 5 generations? and- Is there any interest in a STEPHEN HOPKINS Family Society? Gini Patterson gini1223@comcast.net

Lots of responses - thank you to all. I have all the addresses and contacts I need, however what I have really been looking for is specific information on each society that only a member of these societies could give. Info on objectives, projects, meetings, newsletter, etc. If you are a member of the Allerton, Billington or Eaton Societies and have this type of info, or have the email address of someone who might, please contact me privately. (Also need to hear from someone who belongs to the Gov. Wm. Bradford Compact.) Once I complete the corrected list of contacts I'll update it at the site below to make them available. Thanks, Susan. www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html