Hello. I have attached a link of Vermont people who were either born or died in Caldonia, Vermont, including Wheelers, Wheatons, Humphrey, Hawkins, Pierce (sp?), and many, many, many more. from the 1800's. If you can not open this link on here, email me at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , and I will send you the attachment. It's really awesome. Darlene from Rhode Island

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cooke/Fisher/Hopkins/Howland/Tilley/Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/362.1.2 Message Board Post: Thank you so much Dale! I am happy to receive the clarity as to dates and as I posted to the group a few minutes ago, I apologize profusely for the typo and presentation errors in the proposed Cooke lineage. Not off to a very good start am I? So the 1626 birthdate for Mary is relatively accurate then? I should have simply stated the question more simply (i.e., could Mary have been born earlier and is there any truth to the rumor of a marriage to Francis Tobey, & the 2 children?). She would have had to have been born far earlier for this to be even remotely possible. Cheers! KT

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cooke/Fisher/Hopkins/Howland/Tilley/Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/362.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Karen, I had no idea. Invitation only? I do believe my lineage to Hopkins is intact (unlike the Cooke lineage) but perhaps I should forget the Jamestown group then? After I go through my data again I will post but if my memory serves me well I believe I have more than Hopkins connecting our family to Jamestown. Among the grandfather's somewhere are the Lord de la Warr's: Thomas West (1577-1602) (please don't quote me on these dates yet!); his son Governor Francis West (1590-1634); his son Francis II West (1605-1696). I believe the Gov Francis one was instrumental at Jamestown but again don't quote me yet!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cooke/Fisher/Hopkins/Howland/Tilley/Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/362.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry about the unclear lineage chart and also for the typo on Gershom Tobey (I had my eyes crossed or something and had entered Gershom Tobey’s birth date as 1698 instead of what I have in my records, 1672. In addition I had intended to put question marks after Mary Cooke’s birth date & Francis Tobey's death date, which did not help my presentation. Should have read as follows: Francis (MP) Cooke, bef 1583-1663 (m.Hester Mahieu, abt. 1585-1666) Daughter, Mary Cooke, 1626?-1713 (m. Francis Tobey, 1602-1635?) Son, Thomas Tobey, 1625-1714 (m. Martha Knott, b. 1629) Son, Gershom Tobey, b. 1672 (m. Mehitable Fish, 1680-1720) Daughter, Jerusha Tobey, 1698-1736 (m. Seth Pope, 1701-1796) Daughter, Elizabeth Pope, b. 1721 (m. Joshua Finney, 1708-1742) Son, John Finney, 1749-1826 (m. Elizabeth Ward, 1749-1826) Son, Joshua Finney, 1771-1857 (m. Nancy Richardson, 1780-1856) Daughter, Mary Elizabeth “Polly” Finney, b. 1797 (m. Lewis Street, b. 1805) Son, Matthew Dawson Street, 1851-1920 (m. Margaret Sarah Berry, 1857-1921) Son, Manley Floyd Street, 1887-1973 (m. Vera Bucholtz, 1892-1988) Daughter, "Confidential" Street m. "Confidential" West Living Street West descendants Yes, I have much conflicting information in my files on the dates & relationships surrounding Francis (MP) Cooke, Hester, and their daughter, Mary Cooke from several different sources. I should have phrased the message correctly in that the dates I was quoting were potentially questionable. I thought possibly that my dates involving the Cooke family were incorrect and thus posted them for correction should anyone have alternative dates; especially since this is such a well-known line. Is Mary Cooke's birth date correct at abt 1626? Is her death date correct at 1714? I presume it is correct that her father Francis was born sometime between 1577-1583, and his wife Hester born abt 1585, with a marriage date of June 30, 1603? Mary's birth appears quite late compared with the one's I have for her siblings: born about 23 years after marriage and with Hester abt age 41 and Francis abt age 49 at the time of her birth. I thought there might be a possibility that she was born far ear! lier. You are correct that my dates for Mary as relates to a marriage to Francis Tobey & the dates for the children do not make sense as written. Where does the persistent idea come from that she married a Francis Tobey and had two children, Thomas Tobey & Ruth Tobey? Just another internet fueled rumor? With all of you knowing this line so well I wanted to make certain that the early Cooke family dates I have are correct, and whether or not the lineage proposed, especially regarding Mary Cooke and Francis Tobey, could be possible. Thank you so much for all of your time. I will be careful to quadruple check my dates and make myself more clear from here on out. Sorry if I caused anyone any inconvenience. Cheers! KT

There is a man I met on-line a few months back, and he is of Cooke genealogy, and has more information.... His email is [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Hope this will help. Darlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/362.2 Message Board Post: I certainly agree with your desire to join the Mayflower Society and the DAR, but I must tell you that the Jamestown Society might be a little more difficult. First of all, you must have an invitation from a member to submit an application. Then the cost is, or was as of last year, $300. Plus, if I remember correctly, there is a rather narrow window in which to respond, 3 months I think. I checked into this because I'm a Stephen Hopkins descendant and managed to find a member who invited me. But I decided not to pursue it when I found out how much it would cost. Karen Sullivan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cooke/Fisher/Hopkins/Howland/Tilley/Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/362 Message Board Post: As you all know once you find there is a possible connection to a Mayflower passenger or two it is difficult to put the subject out of reach until the "facts" are put to rest. To my great surprise I have now ended up with probable connections to Cooke/Stephen Hopkins/ Elizabeth Fisher Hopkins/Howland/Tilley/and Warren (includes both my paternal and maternal lines). I've decided for my children's sake and future generations to finish off applications to the Mayflower Society, and other applicable organizations, such as Jamestown, DAR, etc. so they will not have to go through the difficulties. I really am in need of help and want to satisfy myself that the lineages are reasonably accurate before sending in formal applications. It is my hope that you can point out any obvious or glaring inaccuracies or serious questions. So, if you don't mind I will begin in alphabetical order and every so often send in a proposed lineage for you all to look over. At the same time I am very willing to share anything from my own research that may help others. So fire away! Here is the proposed Francis Cooke line: Francis (MP) Cooke, bef 1583-1663 (m.Hester Mahieu, abt. 1585-1666) Mary Cooke, 1626-1713 (m. Francis Tobey, 1602-1635) Thomas Tobey, 1625-1714 (m. Martha Knott, b. 1629) Gershom Tobey, b. 1692 (m. Mehitable Fish, 1680-1720) Jerusha Tobey, 1698-1736 (m. Seth Pope, 1701-1796) Elizabeth Pope, b. 1721 (m. Joshua Finney, 1708-1742) John Finney, 1749-1826 (m. Elizabeth Ward, 1749-1826) Joshua Finney, 1771-1857 (m. Nancy Richardson, 1780-1856) Mary Elizabeth “Polly” Finney, b. 1797 (m. Lewis Street, b. 1805) Matthew Dawson Street, 1851-1920 (m. Margaret Sarah Berry, 1857-1921) Manley Floyd Street, 1887-1973 (m. Vera Bucholtz, 1892-1988) daughter, "Confidential" Street m. "Confidential" West Living Street West descendants I realize the Phinney/Finney bunch is quite problematic and this lineage through the Finney line represents years of careful research. I am most certain about the more recent ancestors (Joshua Finney m. Nancy Richardson) on down as I have fairly good-excellent validation as to these relationships. It is the earlier relationships that are difficult and I would like to look into any and all questions raised from those of you who are interested so that I might get my research in the best possible shape. Thank you so much! KT Lee

Happened to be on-line at local library with Ancestry pass. Did a review of census records. Many Hoffs in NJ. Extract 1: USC 1900, NJ, Passaic, Paterson, Ward 1 p. 540[?]B, 8 June North Third Street 51/154/233 Hoff [B?] Irvin, Head, W, M, Sept. 1850, 49, 17 ______, Julie, Wife, Female, Jan. 1855, 45, 17, 0-0 ______, Roy, Son, W, M, Oct. 1875, 24 {Comment: Roy must be from Irvin's FIRST marriage as he and Julie had ZERO children. Also, regular Indexing for Irvin has it "C. Irvin". However in 1910 census he gives it as "Irving B." & still in Paterson.} WHICH LEADS TO A GLOBAL CENSUS SEARCH FOR "R Hoff" HITS" Extract 2 USC 1870, NJ, Warren, Harmony, 12th & 14th June p. 407 196/203 Hoff, Abel, W, M, 51, Farmer, NJ, NJ, NJ _____ Sarah A., W, F, 47, Wife, Keeping House, NJ, NJ, NJ _____ Mary C., W, F, 24, Daugter, At home, NJ, NJ, NJ _____ George, W, M, 18, Son, Farm laborer, NJ, NJ, NJ _____ William, W, M, 16, Son, Attending school, NJ, NJ, NJ _____ Lewis R., W, M, 3, G'd Son, NJ, NJ, NJ {Comment: Which would match up with the Roy with Irvin in 1900 as the child of the first wife. I have located a SINGLE man, Irvine Hoff, W, M, 30, NJ, NJ, NJ working as a RR Station Agent in NJ, Passaic, Wayne, Dist. 140, p. 217 US 1880 which is likely him. So far is NJ all the way back. Does this match-up with what else you know on this family?} Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720 >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Subject: [MFLR] Hoff's of New Jersey-- >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:48:37 EDT > >Louis Roydon Hoff b. 27 Oct 1876 married Della M???, and became President >of >Johns Manville, Inc and lived in New Rochelle, NY in 1931, married to >Carolyn >Thomas. Children Eugene Rotdon and Everett DeBaun. Please say if you know >his >heritage. >Thank you >Ed Sherman >South Carolina > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Louis Roydon Hoff b. 27 Oct 1876 married Della M???, and became President of Johns Manville, Inc and lived in New Rochelle, NY in 1931, married to Carolyn Thomas. Children Eugene Rotdon and Everett DeBaun. Please say if you know his heritage. Thank you Ed Sherman South Carolina

Joan, Meant to post this is in my first reply. This is the first Wheeler book to look for: Wheeler, Henry Warren. Wheeler and Warren families : descendants of George Wheeler, Concord, Mass., 1638, through Deacon Thomas Wheeler, Concord, 1696, and of John Warren, Boston, Mass., 1630, through Ebnezer Warren, Leicester, Mass., 1744. Albany, NY : J. Munsell's Sons, 1892. NEHGS Research Library CS71 .W56 1892 Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720

Dear Joan Some one may have the answers to hand for you. If not, you should try to find, either through interlibraty loan in California or through local or state genealogy societies one of the several Wheeler family genealogies. The older versions may be available as didigtal pages through your local library's HeritageQuest subscription. Check with them first. Also, don't forget to google. A comprehensive update to the original Wheeler Family work is available in manuscript at the Concord Free Public Libary, Concord MA. Within the next year, it will be featured on a dedicated page at the CFPL web-site. In the meantime, access the Special Collection page and send inquiries to that project c/or Leslie Perrin Wilson, Special Collection Director. Note also, that if you search the NEHGS revised library catalog for Wheeler Family as title you'll get 6 listings. But if you search using Wheeler family by key word, you get 13 pages of listings! I'll print out your detail and take it with me on my next rounds. But in the meantime, those ideas above are some things you can do. As well as post this query over on the Wheeler Discusion Boards! Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720 >From: Joan Norstedt <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MFLR] William Wheelers >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:21:14 -0700 > >I'm hoping someone on the Mayflower list an help with my search. The >line in question starts with WIlliam WHITE and his wife Susannah. It >runs like this: >Resolved WHITE and Judith VASSALL >Anna WHITE and John HAYWARD >Mary HAYWARD and John WILLARD >Mercy WILLARD and William WHEELER >Willard/William (name changed from Willard to William when his older >brother William died)WHEELER and Grace WOOD >William WHEELER and Elizabeth COOK > >This is the point things get confusing - Which William is the son of >William and Elizabeth? > >My gggrandmother, Abigail Wheeler b. 10 Mar 1816 Waitsfield, >Washington Co., VT was the dau. of William WHEELER and Lucy (Palmer). >(I have Abigail's birth record. Abigail Wheeler dau. of William & >Lucy). Lucy 2nd married Elijah Grandy in 1836. > >The "History of Waitsfield," gives William Wheeler the birth date of >17 Sep 1791 in Windsor, VT. His death date is bef 20 Apr 1822, >Waitsfield, VT. and lists one of his ch. Lucy. > >I have a copy of a birth record for William Wheeler, Jr. b. on that >date Windsor VT, son of William Wheeler and Elizabeth ( all of their >children >are listed in the record). > >However, there is another William Wheeler - > >William Wheeler of Fayston, Washington Co., Vermont d. 9 Oct 1845 >married Sophia Smith 17 Aug 1818 Waitsfield, Washington Co., VT > >The History of New Ipswich, NH, p 693, also gives this William the >birth date of Sep 17, 1791, and does not mention a marriage to Lucy, >only Sophia. > >Was this William the son of William and Elizabeth of Windsor, VT, or >was my William the son born that date? > >I have a copy of the Will of William Wheeler who died bef 20 Apr 1822 >in Washington Co., VT. The admin of this will was to go to Lucy, his >widow, but she refused and admin went to William Wheeler, but does >not mention his relationship to the deceased William. I have not >found a son named William for William and Lucy. > >I have not been able to locate a marriage record for my William >Wheeler and Lucy Palmer. > >Some of Abigail's grandchildren were born in Windsor Co., VT, so >there is a connection there, somehow. I have another Wheeler line >that ties in with this one, which is another brick wall, and another >story altogether. > > Is anyone on the list researching either one of these Wheeler >families? I'm not at all sure how to come to a definite conclusion as >to which is which. I live in California and don't see any trips back >to Vermont anytime soon. Can anyone offer any help/suggestions? > >Joan Norstedt > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert - I thank you for your most helpful suggestions. I have this particular Wheeler book, and haven't found my William(s) in it. I will persue the others as mentioned in your first e-mail. Regards, Joan Norstedt On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Robert Gerrity wrote: Joan, Meant to post this is in my first reply. This is the first Wheeler book to look for: Wheeler, Henry Warren. Wheeler and Warren families : descendants of George Wheeler, Concord, Mass., 1638, through Deacon Thomas Wheeler, Concord, 1696, and of John Warren, Boston, Mass., 1630, through Ebnezer Warren, Leicester, Mass., 1744. Albany, NY : J. Munsell's Sons, 1892. NEHGS Research Library CS71 .W56 1892 Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm hoping someone on the Mayflower list an help with my search. The line in question starts with WIlliam WHITE and his wife Susannah. It runs like this: Resolved WHITE and Judith VASSALL Anna WHITE and John HAYWARD Mary HAYWARD and John WILLARD Mercy WILLARD and William WHEELER Willard/William (name changed from Willard to William when his older brother William died)WHEELER and Grace WOOD William WHEELER and Elizabeth COOK This is the point things get confusing - Which William is the son of William and Elizabeth? My gggrandmother, Abigail Wheeler b. 10 Mar 1816 Waitsfield, Washington Co., VT was the dau. of William WHEELER and Lucy (Palmer). (I have Abigail's birth record. Abigail Wheeler dau. of William & Lucy). Lucy 2nd married Elijah Grandy in 1836. The "History of Waitsfield," gives William Wheeler the birth date of 17 Sep 1791 in Windsor, VT. His death date is bef 20 Apr 1822, Waitsfield, VT. and lists one of his ch. Lucy. I have a copy of a birth record for William Wheeler, Jr. b. on that date Windsor VT, son of William Wheeler and Elizabeth ( all of their children are listed in the record). However, there is another William Wheeler - William Wheeler of Fayston, Washington Co., Vermont d. 9 Oct 1845 married Sophia Smith 17 Aug 1818 Waitsfield, Washington Co., VT The History of New Ipswich, NH, p 693, also gives this William the birth date of Sep 17, 1791, and does not mention a marriage to Lucy, only Sophia. Was this William the son of William and Elizabeth of Windsor, VT, or was my William the son born that date? I have a copy of the Will of William Wheeler who died bef 20 Apr 1822 in Washington Co., VT. The admin of this will was to go to Lucy, his widow, but she refused and admin went to William Wheeler, but does not mention his relationship to the deceased William. I have not found a son named William for William and Lucy. I have not been able to locate a marriage record for my William Wheeler and Lucy Palmer. Some of Abigail's grandchildren were born in Windsor Co., VT, so there is a connection there, somehow. I have another Wheeler line that ties in with this one, which is another brick wall, and another story altogether. Is anyone on the list researching either one of these Wheeler families? I'm not at all sure how to come to a definite conclusion as to which is which. I live in California and don't see any trips back to Vermont anytime soon. Can anyone offer any help/suggestions? Joan Norstedt

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/203.2 Message Board Post: George and sarah married 17 Oct 1728 moved to sharon ct. ~ 1747 children John, mary, archelaus, george, Eleanor mail me about this for info and documentation if interested

The Wellfleet VRs had the following: Mch 4th 1771. Samuel Smith 3d and Susanna Snow of Wellfleet [I:524] I am attempting to identify this Susanna Snow. Joseph Snow was born at Eastham, MA 11 OCT 1718, son of Nathaniel Snow and Hannah Parslow. He married Thankfull Cole at Eastham 17 SEP 1741. According to a Boston Transcript Genealogical Query (9 APR 1928, Query 6849 No. 20) Joseph and Thankfull had a daughter Susanna. [Thankful Cole was the great-great-granddaughter of John Rogers of the Mayflower] Joseph's brother, Solomon Snow was born at Eastham 19 JUL 1725. He married Lydia Ryder 3 OCT 1751 at Eastham. Joseph and Lydia's first child was a daughter Susanna, born Eastham 20 FEB 1752. I would ideally like to know who both Susanna Snow's married as well as their children. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Raymond T. Wing Genealogist, Wing Family of America, Inc. [WFA]

Hi, I am working on the 6th and 7th generations Francis Cooke Project. So if you have Francis Cooke line(s) I will be happy to look up your line in my database. Also, I have several other Mayflower Books I will be happy to look in. Dianna Saario Francis Cooke Society Membership Chairwoman 6th & 7th Francis Cooke Generations Project Compiler 1449 E. Vassar Dr. Visalia, CA 93292 [email protected] http://franciscookesociety.org 11th generation from Francis Cooke. ************ Registrar and Treasurer Mayflower Society of CA Descendents San Joaquin Colony ************* Alden (Mullins), Allerton, Brewster, Cooke, Eaton, Hopkins, Priest, Rogers, Soule, Standish, (posssible Warren) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MFLR] Message from the Listowner Terri, I am still trying to figure out my Mayflower connection but I know it is there with my crazy family name list. I'm rather new to genealogy, but have lots to work with because my mother handed it all to me from what she did and her sources. What is a MA List ? a GenMa LIST? Please tell me about it. I know this goes thru everyone, but go ahead and email me at PatriotGirl777 at aol dot com. I could use some personal help with all of this. Have you heard of the "Ancestor's Commandments? " It's very funny. Darlene RI In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:06:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Darlene - In the meantime, while they figure out what's going wrong -- have you considered joining any MA lists?? Ofcourse, this Mayflower list is a good one for Mayflower families, however you just might find something at, say, GenMA list. There's a gal named Janice Farnsworth who regularly posts wonderful pages of info. Just a thought -- Terri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terri, I am still trying to figure out my Mayflower connection but I know it is there with my crazy family name list. I'm rather new to genealogy, but have lots to work with because my mother handed it all to me from what she did and her sources. What is a MA List ? a GenMa LIST? Please tell me about it. I know this goes thru everyone, but go ahead and email me at PatriotGirl777 at aol dot com. I could use some personal help with all of this. Have you heard of the "Ancestor's Commandments? " It's very funny. Darlene RI In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:06:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Darlene - In the meantime, while they figure out what's going wrong -- have you considered joining any MA lists?? Ofcourse, this Mayflower list is a good one for Mayflower families, however you just might find something at, say, GenMA list. There's a gal named Janice Farnsworth who regularly posts wonderful pages of info. Just a thought -- Terri

Darlene - In the meantime, while they figure out what's going wrong -- have you considered joining any MA lists?? Ofcourse, this Mayflower list is a good one for Mayflower families, however you just might find something at, say, GenMA list. There's a gal named Janice Farnsworth who regularly posts wonderful pages of info. Just a thought -- Terri

Dianna and my messages are not coming through, so possibly others are in same situation? I can not wait to be part of this group. Darlene R.I.

you know Craig, I have "never" received a Mayflower message or digest yet ! I know that I signed up, but I'm not getting any. Would you kindly check on this for me? Very sincerely, Darlene