Hello I'm new to the list but find it very interesting. I have searched for a Mayflower connection for a long time. I notice you keep mentioning the Wheeler name. I have a Wheeler connection. Maybe there's hope for me finding a Mayflower connection yet. Here's what I know. Help please. Susan Dorris in Illinois WHEELER Generation 10 Mary Wheeler #595, daughter of Ephraim #1190 and Mary (Holbrook) #1191 Wheeler, born 3 February 1678 Ct., died 31 January 1730 aged 53 at Milford, Ct., married in 1696 in Ct. to Eliphal(et) Gillette #594, son of Sgt. Jeremiah #1188 and Deborah (Bartlett) #1189 Gillette, born 1672/3 Ct., died 19 March 1746/7 aged 74. He m. 2nd Elizabeth ( ), died 17 July 1732, m. 3rd Hannah ( ). Children: of Eliphal and Mary, all born Milford, Ct. Mary #297 m. Jesse Lambert #296 Ephraim bp 29 Jan 1698/9, d. bef 1747/8, m. 2 Apr 1724 Persis Wooster, d. of David and Mary (Lobdell) Wooster. Ch: Ephraim, David twin, Wooster twin, Freelove, Mary, Jeremiah, Jonathan, Shadrach, Joseph twin, Benjamin twin. Jeremiah bp 10 Aug 1701, d. 24 Sep 1732 aged 32, m. 16 July 1725 Frances Bryan, d. of Richard and Sarah (Platt) Bryan. Ch: Frances, Mary, Sarah. Jonathan b. 10 Sept 1703, bp 17 Oct 1703, d. 5 Sept 1732 Abraham b. 12 Nov 1705, m. 28 Jan 1730 Abigail Prindle, d. of Samuel and Dorothy (Plumb) Prindle. Ch: Hannah, Abigail, Jonathan, Abraham. Rachel b. 17 Feb 1707/8, bp 21 March 1708, m. Daniel Collins, s. of Daniel and Ruth (Wilkinson) Collins. Hannah b. 26 Oct 1710, bp 3 Dec 1710 Agnes b. 19 March 1715/16, bp 22 Aug 1716, d. 15 Jan 1795, m. a Summers Eliphal b. 22 March 1719, m. Mercy Smith, d. of John and Ruth (Briscoe) Smith. Ch: Agnes, Wheeler, Eliphal/Eliphalet. Generation 11 Ephraim Wheeler #1190, son of Thomas #2380 and Joan (Bryan?) #2381 Wheeler, baptized April 1646 Milford, Ct., and died 1684/5. He married 8 September 1675 Milford, Ct. to Mary Holbrook #1191, daughter of Richard #2382 and Agnes ( ) #2383 Holbrook, baptized 17 March 1650 Dorchester, Ma. Mary married 2nd Henry Summers. Children: Obadiah b. 15 June 1676 Milford, bp 18 June 1676, d. y. Mary #595 m. Eliphal Gillett #594 Thomas d. y. Ephraim d. y. Abigail b. 8 Feb 1683 Milford, m. 28 July 1703 John Brinsmade, son of Paul and Elizabeth Brinsmade of Derby, Ct. Generation 12 Thomas Wheeler #2380, of Milford, Ct., died 26 November 1672 at Milford. He married Joan/Jane (Bryan?) #2381, daughter of Thomas Bryan?, buried 11 June 1673. Deputy to Connecticut legislature May and October of 1670, and May of 1671. He was admitted to the Milford Church 9 August 1640, and his wife Jane/Joan was admitted 27 September 1640. Will dated 18 November 1672, proved 11 June 1673 names eldest son John and John's three eldest daughters Sarah, Mary, and Elizabeth; 2nd son Nathaniel and his daughter Esther; sons Ephraim and Joseph; son Thomas; my brothers children here, viz., William, Thomas, Sarah; Wife Joan. Inventory of the widow Joan dated 23 June 1673. John and Obadiah Wheeler had land in Stratford 1667, by gift from father, Thomas of Milford. Children: John bp 16 Aug 1640 Milford Samuel bp 16 Aug 1640 Milford, d. 1668 Nathaniel bp Feb 1641 Milford, m. 27 June 1665 Hester or Esther Botsford, dau of Henry and Elizabeth Botsford. Removed to Newark, N. J. Obadiah bp March 1643 Milford, died Stratford, Ct. 1668, m. Ruth (Rogers) Goodwin, dau of John Rogers and widow of Thomas Goodwin. Ephraim #1190 m. Mary Holbrook #1191 Eleazer bp 30 Apr 1648 Milford, d. 10 Aug 1649 Thomas bp 28 July 1650 Milford Josiah bp 5 June 1653, d. y. Joseph bp 23 Nov 1655, d. y. Joseph bp 13 March 1656/7, m. June 1678 at Milford to Patience Holbrook, dau of Richard Holbrook. Ch: Patience, Anna, Joseph. Removed to Newark, N. J. Reference: Families Of Early Milford Connecticut by Jacquelyn L. Ricker p. 797, 798 History And Genealogy Of The Families Of Old Fairfield by Donald L. Jacobus p. 679-681 Genealogical Dictionary Of The First Settlers Of New England, by James Savage, p. 496, 500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Norstedt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: [MFLR] William Wheelers > Darlene, I wrote to your address below requesting the link (absent in > the e-mail), but it was returned as un-deliverable. Please post the > link to the list. > > Joan Norstedt > On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:39 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hello. I have attached a link of Vermont people who were either > born or > died in Caldonia, Vermont, > > including Wheelers, Wheatons, Humphrey, Hawkins, Pierce (sp?), and many, > many, many more. from the 1800's. > > If you can not open this link on here, email me at > [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) , and I will send you the attachment. > > It's really awesome. > > Darlene > from Rhode Island > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/06 > >

Darlene, I wrote to your address below requesting the link (absent in the e-mail), but it was returned as un-deliverable. Please post the link to the list. Joan Norstedt On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:39 PM, [email protected] wrote: Hello. I have attached a link of Vermont people who were either born or died in Caldonia, Vermont, including Wheelers, Wheatons, Humphrey, Hawkins, Pierce (sp?), and many, many, many more. from the 1800's. If you can not open this link on here, email me at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , and I will send you the attachment. It's really awesome. Darlene from Rhode Island ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert: Did you receive the envelope for you that was addressed to me re: Chilton's Children? I forwarded it a couple of weeks ago. Kindest regards, Judy Hughes [email protected]

At 08:00 PM 9/28/2006, Susan Slater wrote: >He writes that Obadiah >Bowen was the executorwith the following ( MD, 16:128). > >Additionally, after Obadiah's name there are found the following (MD, >18:204-209) > >The MD stands for Mayflower Descendant but am unsure of the other. I >assume that they are vol. and a page numbers. They are. >My question is....would any one have knowledge of a Bowen being >included as a Mayflower descendant? Just because information about a person is found in Mayflower Descendant that does not mean that the person is a Mayflower Descendant. Throughout its history one of MDs most valued contributions to genealogical research has been its publication of transcriptions of, and abstracts from, a variety of contemporary records. Many of the people named in those records, perhaps most of them, are not Mayflower descendants. Many of those records have never been published elsewhere. Others were published by MD in a format which is preferable to other publications of those same records. Vital records from Massachusetts town record books are published in MD as literal transcriptions, rather than the alphabetized abstracts published in the Tan Books (a.k.a the "Official Series"). Town Clerks often recorded an entire family as one unit, reserving space in the Town Book for that family when the first child was born, and successively adding later children. In a literal transcription one may find the entire family recorded together, including the deaths of children who died young, and perhaps even the deaths of the parents. For an example of such a record see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mabridge/md/03142.html and the following page, which contain the births of the ten children of Joseph and Hannah (Dunham) Alden of Bridgewater, the early deaths of three of those children, and the deaths of both parents. Literal transcriptions are generally preferred by the most experienced researchers, which is why one finds, say, the citation of a vital record in a scholarly journal referring to MD, rather than that same record as published in a Tan Book. MD, 16:128 contains the 1663 will of Thomas Bowen of New London, but then living in Rehoboth, abstracted but with essential passages quoted in full. It was published as part of the journal's series of transcriptions and abstracts of Plymouth Colony wills and inventories. MD, 18:204-209 contains the abstracted 1708+ probate file of Obadiah Bowen of Swansea, including will, inventory, and all other documents in the file. The 1730+ probate file of Thomas Bowen of Swansea follows immediately, on pages 210-211. Copies of those pages are coming to you off-list. Dale H. Cook; Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

HI DARLENE, I COULD NOT SEE A PLACE TO OPEN THE ATTACHMENT AND I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE WHEELERS. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD EMAIL ME THE ATTACHMENT. VERMONT HAS SEVERAL OF MY ANCESTORS. THANKS IN ADVANCE SEARCHING THE WHEELERS CONNECTION TO MY RASEY'S THRU THE BRUCE'S. DORIS IN FL.

Hi There Susan: Here is my line: William Brewster Patience Brewster - Gov. Thomas Prencse Rebecca Prence - Edmund Freeman Patience Freeman - Joseph Burgess Dorothyl Burgess - Savory Clifton Margaret Clifton - Stephen Wing Elizabeth Wing - Henry Hedley Wing Hedlely - Mary Mendell Stephen Hedlely - Hepsibeth Hammond Caroline Hedley -Sylvanus Griffeth Caroline Griffeth - Charles Gilbert George Gilbert - Clara Jones Roy Gilbert and to me Obadiah Bowen Sr. was born July 1, 1627 in Wales son of Richard. Bowen b 1580 Wales and Ann Bourne b abt. 1586 . He married Mary Clifton born about 1627. Obediah Bowen, Jr. was born 1650 and married Abigail Bullock. Their daughter Abigail Bowen married Benjamin Fiske. Their son Daniel Fiske married Freelove Williams daughter of Peleg Williams who married Elizabeth Carpenter. Peleg Williams was the son of Daniel Williams who married Rebecca Rhodes and was the son of Roger Williams, founder of Providence, Rhode Island.

Hi, I have the James Chilton Family Silver Book. (I'm not descended from Chilton but Richard More/same book). This is what the MF Silver Book says for the 1st Generation. James Chilton b. prob. Canterbury, co., Kent, England bef 1556 (ae 63 in 1619); d. Cape Cod Harbor (now Provincetown) aboard the Mayflower on 18 Dec. 1620; son of Lyonell Chylton. (Lyonell's 2nd wife, the widow Isabell Furner, was not the mother of his children.). He m. England bef. 1587 poss. Susanna Furner, dau. of his step-mother; his wife d. Plymouth shortly after 11 Jan. 1620/1. The children's dates are all bp. St. Paul's Parish Canterbury, England Isabella, 15 Jan 1786/7 Jane, 8 June 1589 n.f.r Mary, 23 Nov 1593 Joel, 2 Nov 1593 Elizabeth 14 July 1594 n.f.r James, 22 Aug 1596; d.y. Ingle, 29 Apr 1599 Christian (dau) 26 Jul 1601; n.f.r. James 11 Sept 1603; n.f.r. Mary, bp. 30 May 1607 Ref: MD 1:10 (Bradford's list of passengers), 14-5 (Bradford's account). Great Migration Begins 1:353-5. Savage 1:379. TAG 38:24-5. NEHGR 63:201. Banks English Ancestry p. 45. Leyden Documents p. 48. Bradford's history (1952) pp. 442, 446. Register, St. Peter's Christenings, Sandwich (now at Canterbury Cathedral). Lynde C. Randall '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 06:41:13 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Reviewing my Mayflower lines: Chilton > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 9/27/2006 11:34:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner (____-1620/1) > 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) > 3-- Susanna Winslow (1627/30-1685) Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) I share these ancestors and have some data that is different Susanna Furner, b. c1564, d. 21 Jan 1621 > Susanne Winslow, b. 1625/1634, d. bef 3 Oct 1683 > > Has Susann Furner been confirmed as James Chilton's wife? > > Ref.-"Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" > > Best regards, > Hugh > >

Out of curiosity, why would the Florida Society not let you join? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society Hi, I am a Lifetime time member of the Michigan Mayflower Society. I moved to Florida, and tried to get my membership transferred to Florida. I think the Michigan Society would have let me transfer, however the Florida Society would not let me transfer. But I am still welcome as a guest to all Florida Mayflower meetings. Originally I was a member of the Iowa Mayflower Society. The state where I was born. But later transferred my membership to Michigan. I know that some of my relatives are members of various state Mayflower societies, in which they do not reside. I have been a member for 34 years. A lot of requirements have changed, since I have been a member. Franciscookesociety.org Scott McKay ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, Susan. Have no idea about Obadiah Bowen and Elizabeth Clifton, but one of my Brewster lines does includes Cliftons. I have my membership thru another Brewster line but this one is proven/used by a cousin. Anyway, if you worked down from Savory Clifton (sometimes written Claften, Clasen, Clafen) you might find thru his son Benjamin where there is an Elizabeth Clifton. Savory Clifton (c1655-aft 1730) and Dorothy Burge/Burgess (1670-c1725-7) had 12 children: Benjamin (1690-1730 Rochester MA) m. Sarah Davis 1693/4-aft1731), had 4 children. The rest of Savory and Dorothy's children were all girls, including my ancestor Jane Clifton. One other son, Savory, had no further information on, so isn't shown with a marriage and children like all the others in the family. They were quite well documented, so who knows where he went or if he died after leaving home. They were Quakers and if he'd died young, it should be recorded along with all the other family dates. Maybe someone else has more on the Clifton family, I haven't worked on it except for my direct line. Good luck! Patti Bowerman Jobe William Brewster/Mary ? Patience Brewster/Thomas Prence Rebecca Prence/Edmund Freeman Patience Freeman/Joseph Burge Dorothy Burge/Savory Clifton Jane Clifton/Thomas Bowerman etc....down to me. I am hoping that someone on the list might be able to provide me with some information. I have Carl Boyer's book 'How To Publish and Market Your Genealogy' in front of me. In this book he mentions a will of a Thomas Bowen. He writes that Obadiah Bowen was the executorwith the following ( MD, 16:128). Additionally, after Obadiah's name there are found the following (MD, 18:204-209) The MD stands for Mayflower Descendant but am unsure of the other. I assume that they are vol. and a page numbers. My question is....would any one have knowledge of a Bowen being included as a Mayflower descendant? Obadiah Bowen married (per Boyer) Mary Clifton or Chilton or Titus...he is not specific as to which. I believe that I read elsewhere that Obadiah married an Elizabeth Clifton. Perhaps this was from a Clifton genealogy. Thomas Bowen, brother to Obadiah, married Elizabeth, last name unknown, who then remarried to Rev. Samuel Fuller. It is unclear to me how either of these two brothers connect to a Mayflower line. Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Susan

Barbara: Although I can not answer your question specifically, I can contribute that there is no mention of an Anne Eaton in the first and second generations of Pilgrim Francis Eaton's family listed in the Eaton Silver Book. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:08 pm Subject: [MFLR] Eaton Genealogy To: [email protected] > Has ANN EATON ever been approved as a daughter of Pilgrim Francis > Eaton? > Thank you. > Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Has ANN EATON ever been approved as a daughter of Pilgrim Francis Eaton? Thank you. Barbara

I am hoping that someone on the list might be able to provide me with some information. I have Carl Boyer's book 'How To Publish and Market Your Genealogy' in front of me. In this book he mentions a will of a Thomas Bowen. He writes that Obadiah Bowen was the executorwith the following ( MD, 16:128). Additionally, after Obadiah's name there are found the following (MD, 18:204-209) The MD stands for Mayflower Descendant but am unsure of the other. I assume that they are vol. and a page numbers. My question is....would any one have knowledge of a Bowen being included as a Mayflower descendant? Obadiah Bowen married (per Boyer) Mary Clifton or Chilton or Titus...he is not specific as to which. I believe that I read elsewhere that Obadiah married an Elizabeth Clifton. Perhaps this was from a Clifton genealogy. Thomas Bowen, brother to Obadiah, married Elizabeth, last name unknown, who then remarried to Rev. Samuel Fuller. It is unclear to me how either of these two brothers connect to a Mayflower line. Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Susan

Well that settles that huh? LOL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Luce Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:55 AM To: Janean Subject: Re: [MFLR] Chilton James Chilton died on board the Mayflower, his wife died during the first winter. Only his daughter Mary survived. His daughter, Isabella, came over from Holland a bit later with her husband, Roger Chandler. Sorry to say, he had no sons who came to the colonies, in fact, all his sons died very young but one of whom we have no further record. Robert Luce, Governor Chilton's Children Family Association http://www.chiltonschildren.org Thursday, September 28, 2006, 6:37:28 AM, you wrote: > I have 2 Chilton's in my database that I have neither parents nor locations > for except the married people from Lancaster Co. Va. If anyone is looking > for Chilton connections. I know nothing about them just throwing this out > for Chilton researchers. > I have Mary Chilton b. abt. 1688 m. 1710 to Robert Mitchell b. 1684 d. 1748 > Lancaster co. Va. They had two sons Dr. John Mitchell and Robert Mitchell. > I also have Thomas Chilton that married Sarah Chynne/Chinn b. 1665. Thomas > Chilton was in Northumberland Co., VA, as of 1697/98. > Sarah was the d/o John Chynne and Elizabeth Travers. Elizabeth Travers is > 1st cousin once removed from Samuel Travers who married Frances Allerton a > Mayflower Descendant. Their daughter Elizabeth was first married to Thomas > Harwar who is mentioned in the MF Book Vol 17 on Isaac Allerton. SOOOO long > story short, these Chilton's could belong to the Mayflower Chilton. > Just throwing a line for anyone to grab on to. > Janean > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of David Sylvester > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MFLR] Reviewing my Mayflower lines: Chilton > Hi List, > These are my Chilton lines that I'm researching. To save space per > line I'm giving only brief dates and omitting name prefixes such as > Deacon, Capt., etc and places. If you also follow these lines I > will be glad to provide any further details that I may have. If I > have an incorrect date or if you can provide a missing date or > missing name or if you have any corrections on family lines I'd > like to hear from you. > 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner > (____-1620/1) > 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) > 3-- Susanna Winslow (1627/30-1685) Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) > 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) > 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard > (1706-1784) > 6-- Stephen Washburn (1736-____) Hannah Norris (1737-____) > 7-- Hosea Washburn (1765-1817) Hannah Doty (1767-1864) > 8-- Hosea Washburn (1796-1883) Hannah Maxim (1801-1863) > 9-- Alden F Washburn (1820-1888) Judith L Jones > (1823-1887) > 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams > (1867-1950) > 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester > (1893-1968) > 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) > 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) > 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) > James Chilton and Susanna Furner along with their daughter Mary > Chilton arrived on the Mayflower in 1620 > John Winslow arrived on the Fortune in 1621. > 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner > (____-1620/1) > 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) > 3-- Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) Susanna Winslow > (1627/30-1685) > 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) > 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard > (1706-1784) > 6-- Lydia Washburn (1728-____) Samuel Norris (1728-1795) > 7-- Jemima Norris (1770-____) Giddings Lane (1770-1836) > 8-- Fannie Lane (1801-1829) Edward Jones (1797-1884) > 9-- Judith L Jones (1823-1887) Alden F Washburn > (1820-1888) > 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams > (1867-1950) > 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester > (1893-1968) > 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) > 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) > 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) > David Sylvester > 28 North Searsport Road > Searsport, Maine 04974 > Discuss our First Ships roots at > http://www.feliixplace.com/genealogylists/firstships.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Robert Luce <[email protected]> On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. 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In a message dated 9/28/2006 10:00:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Good morning, That is correct. There is no reciprocity between the states for life memberships. This is a General Society ruling and not one of the states. A member with life membership may join another state as a dual member but is required to pay dues to the new state. I am a life member in MA but a dual member with Florida and have to pay dues to the Florida Society. Relatively yours, Muriel Curtis Cushing _____________________________________________________ Ladies and gentlemen-- A Mayflower Descendant has the option to purchase a Life Membership in their state society. Most Descendants who purchase Life memberships do this with the understanding they will no longer pay annual dues, which is very nice during retirement. Some parents purchase Life Memberships for their children to insure that those children remain members...even when they don't pay dues...and many do not pay if the parent secures their regular membership. If a Descendant (or Descendant's parent) pays the lump sum for a LM, GSMD continues to "tax" that state $11 per year for that member for the balance of their life. Does it seem fair to a Life Member, when she/he decides to remove to another state, the lump payment for Life Membership goes down the drain? Would it not be delightful, if when a person pays from $400 to $2500, to state society for a Life Membership, that state society would make it clear to that person (could be retired and on SS), that the LM is non-transferrable. To rectify this, Life Memberships should only be sold by GSMD, and then, GSMD would have the funds and would no longer need to tax the state society $11 per year for that member, as GSMD is presently doing. This way all LM's could remove to other states without the present penalty. With a Mayflower Descendant's smile, Ed Sherman South Carolina

Good morning, That is correct. There is no reciprocity between the states for life memberships. This is a General Society ruling and not one of the states. A member with life membership may join another state as a dual member but is required to pay dues to the new state. I am a life member in MA but a dual member with Florida and have to pay dues to the Florida Society. Relatively yours, Muriel Curtis Cushing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Tonn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society >I read somewhere that only yearly memberships could be transferred to > another state not life memberships. This is from the PA Mayflower Society > http://www.sail1620.org/joinus_eligibility.shtml webpage: > > It states: "Additionally, if a move to a state other than the one in which > they plan to join is anticipated, they should be aware that Life > Memberships > are not transferable." > > Chris Tonn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Muriel Cushing > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society > > Yes, Scott, I am curious also. I don't recall that you ever applied. > > Relatively yours, > Muriel Curtis Cushing, Florida State Historian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debi" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society > > >> Out of curiosity, why would the Florida Society not let you join? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society >> >> >> Hi, I am a Lifetime time member of the Michigan Mayflower Society. I >> moved >> to Florida, and tried to get my membership transferred to Florida. I >> think >> the >> Michigan Society would have let me transfer, however the Florida Society >> would not let me transfer. But I am still welcome as a guest to all >> Florida >> Mayflower meetings. >> Originally I was a member of the Iowa Mayflower Society. The state where >> I >> was born. But later transferred my membership to Michigan. >> I know that some of my relatives are members of various state Mayflower >> societies, in which they do not reside. >> I have been a member for 34 years. A lot of requirements have changed, >> since >> I have been a member. >> Franciscookesociety.org >> Scott McKay >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:19 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MFLR] Silver Books The General Society of Mayflower Descendants" Mayflower Families Through Five Generation" books (aka "Silver") are compiled by genealogists (many are FASG) and are listed on a continually updated list on the Society's Website www.Mayflower.org. Click "Books and Insignia" and then "Books." Thus the latest volumes, both new and revised) are found there. No need to look further! Recent additions/revisions are Edward Fuller (Vol. 4, 3rd Edition), William White (Vol. 13, 2nd Edition) and John Howland (Vol. 23 Part 1 covering the 4th generation (naming the 5th) of children Lydia, Hannah, Joseph, Jabez, Ruth and Isaac). There are also 2 other Howland books published outside of GSMD but included on the list (Children of Desire and John). For those wishing to prove descent from a Pilgrim, this books must be used as the required documentation for the first five generations. The 5 Generation volumes name the sixth generation and some times name additional generations. Henry Samson Part 3 is expected to be released shortly. Works in progress (including 4 generations) are published in soft cover under the title "Mayflower Families in Progress." They are included on the GSMD Website. Stacy Wood www.Sail1620.org www.PilgrimHenrySamsonKindred.org In a message dated 9/27/2006 10:56:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello All, Please excuse me for this (very probably) previously addressed question. I have volumes 1,2 and 3 of the Mayflower Families Through Five Generations (the Silver Books) and have not heard of a volume which covers John Howland. Is there one? If so, which Volume number might it be? Also, I *had heard* at one time that the Silver Books had been "replaced" as a good reference by some other set. Is this so? If so, which books was this a reference to? I have been eagerly awaiting the book by Elizabeth Pearson White on John Howland through Hope (my Howland line). Does *anyone* have a clue when that one will be out? Thank you in advance to anyone who can answer these questions. Regards, Linda (Warrick) Chesson Linda: There are at least 22 volumes of the "silver" books at this point in time, not including the two privately printed books on Howland and the various "pink" books that are referred to as "in progress" volumes which will later be published as a "silver" book. The reason the "pink" books are published is to give people information about what has been collected to date. They are still researching and proving the lines and when the Society feels that they have "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" so to speak they will then publish it as the definitive answer to the question of that line for five generations. There are also several other versions that have different colored covers for those people they have worked on that have strong and close ties to a Mayflower passenger but they were not Mayflower passengers themselves. Volumes 1-3 have been updated and are no longer in print. The current volumes in print and available start at volume 4. Some of the volumes have been revised themselves and are now in newer versions. I have a complete set myself - except for volume 3, which I haven't been able to get. Even those of us who have purchased some of the volumes in the set need to recheck the Mayflower website and order a newer version because the information in the older versions may have been changed, corrected, or deleted from the version we may have in our possession. You can go to _www.Mayflower.org_ (http://www.Mayflower.org) Then click on publications. You will see a listing, with prices, of the volumes they have for sale. It will show you the version and the year of publication. So if you have an older version, you might want to consider purchasing the newer, updated version to see where the changes are in your particular family line. Christie Trapp ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.7/454 - Release Date: 9/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.7/454 - Release Date: 9/21/2006

I have 2 Chilton's in my database that I have neither parents nor locations for except the married people from Lancaster Co. Va. If anyone is looking for Chilton connections. I know nothing about them just throwing this out for Chilton researchers. I have Mary Chilton b. abt. 1688 m. 1710 to Robert Mitchell b. 1684 d. 1748 Lancaster co. Va. They had two sons Dr. John Mitchell and Robert Mitchell. I also have Thomas Chilton that married Sarah Chynne/Chinn b. 1665. Thomas Chilton was in Northumberland Co., VA, as of 1697/98. Sarah was the d/o John Chynne and Elizabeth Travers. Elizabeth Travers is 1st cousin once removed from Samuel Travers who married Frances Allerton a Mayflower Descendant. Their daughter Elizabeth was first married to Thomas Harwar who is mentioned in the MF Book Vol 17 on Isaac Allerton. SOOOO long story short, these Chilton's could belong to the Mayflower Chilton. Just throwing a line for anyone to grab on to. Janean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sylvester Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MFLR] Reviewing my Mayflower lines: Chilton Hi List, These are my Chilton lines that I'm researching. To save space per line I'm giving only brief dates and omitting name prefixes such as Deacon, Capt., etc and places. If you also follow these lines I will be glad to provide any further details that I may have. If I have an incorrect date or if you can provide a missing date or missing name or if you have any corrections on family lines I'd like to hear from you. 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner (____-1620/1) 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) 3-- Susanna Winslow (1627/30-1685) Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard (1706-1784) 6-- Stephen Washburn (1736-____) Hannah Norris (1737-____) 7-- Hosea Washburn (1765-1817) Hannah Doty (1767-1864) 8-- Hosea Washburn (1796-1883) Hannah Maxim (1801-1863) 9-- Alden F Washburn (1820-1888) Judith L Jones (1823-1887) 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams (1867-1950) 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester (1893-1968) 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) James Chilton and Susanna Furner along with their daughter Mary Chilton arrived on the Mayflower in 1620 John Winslow arrived on the Fortune in 1621. 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner (____-1620/1) 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) 3-- Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) Susanna Winslow (1627/30-1685) 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard (1706-1784) 6-- Lydia Washburn (1728-____) Samuel Norris (1728-1795) 7-- Jemima Norris (1770-____) Giddings Lane (1770-1836) 8-- Fannie Lane (1801-1829) Edward Jones (1797-1884) 9-- Judith L Jones (1823-1887) Alden F Washburn (1820-1888) 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams (1867-1950) 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester (1893-1968) 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) David Sylvester 28 North Searsport Road Searsport, Maine 04974 Discuss our First Ships roots at http://www.feliixplace.com/genealogylists/firstships.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had to have someone from the Mayflower Organization sign a pink paper for me to apply. I suppose that could be an invitation. To be honest I didn't really pay any attention other than filling out my required info. Fortunately my sons boyscout leader is a member. Stefanie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006

I read somewhere that only yearly memberships could be transferred to another state not life memberships. This is from the PA Mayflower Society http://www.sail1620.org/joinus_eligibility.shtml webpage: It states: "Additionally, if a move to a state other than the one in which they plan to join is anticipated, they should be aware that Life Memberships are not transferable." Chris Tonn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Muriel Cushing Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society Yes, Scott, I am curious also. I don't recall that you ever applied. Relatively yours, Muriel Curtis Cushing, Florida State Historian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debi" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society > Out of curiosity, why would the Florida Society not let you join? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MFLR] Joining a state Mayflower Society > > > Hi, I am a Lifetime time member of the Michigan Mayflower Society. I > moved > to Florida, and tried to get my membership transferred to Florida. I think > the > Michigan Society would have let me transfer, however the Florida Society > would not let me transfer. But I am still welcome as a guest to all > Florida > Mayflower meetings. > Originally I was a member of the Iowa Mayflower Society. The state where > I > was born. But later transferred my membership to Michigan. > I know that some of my relatives are members of various state Mayflower > societies, in which they do not reside. > I have been a member for 34 years. A lot of requirements have changed, > since > I have been a member. > Franciscookesociety.org > Scott McKay > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James Chilton died on board the Mayflower, his wife died during the first winter. Only his daughter Mary survived. His daughter, Isabella, came over from Holland a bit later with her husband, Roger Chandler. Sorry to say, he had no sons who came to the colonies, in fact, all his sons died very young but one of whom we have no further record. Robert Luce, Governor Chilton's Children Family Association http://www.chiltonschildren.org Thursday, September 28, 2006, 6:37:28 AM, you wrote: > I have 2 Chilton's in my database that I have neither parents nor locations > for except the married people from Lancaster Co. Va. If anyone is looking > for Chilton connections. I know nothing about them just throwing this out > for Chilton researchers. > I have Mary Chilton b. abt. 1688 m. 1710 to Robert Mitchell b. 1684 d. 1748 > Lancaster co. Va. They had two sons Dr. John Mitchell and Robert Mitchell. > I also have Thomas Chilton that married Sarah Chynne/Chinn b. 1665. Thomas > Chilton was in Northumberland Co., VA, as of 1697/98. > Sarah was the d/o John Chynne and Elizabeth Travers. Elizabeth Travers is > 1st cousin once removed from Samuel Travers who married Frances Allerton a > Mayflower Descendant. Their daughter Elizabeth was first married to Thomas > Harwar who is mentioned in the MF Book Vol 17 on Isaac Allerton. SOOOO long > story short, these Chilton's could belong to the Mayflower Chilton. > Just throwing a line for anyone to grab on to. > Janean > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of David Sylvester > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MFLR] Reviewing my Mayflower lines: Chilton > Hi List, > These are my Chilton lines that I'm researching. To save space per > line I'm giving only brief dates and omitting name prefixes such as > Deacon, Capt., etc and places. If you also follow these lines I > will be glad to provide any further details that I may have. If I > have an incorrect date or if you can provide a missing date or > missing name or if you have any corrections on family lines I'd > like to hear from you. > 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner > (____-1620/1) > 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) > 3-- Susanna Winslow (1627/30-1685) Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) > 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) > 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard > (1706-1784) > 6-- Stephen Washburn (1736-____) Hannah Norris (1737-____) > 7-- Hosea Washburn (1765-1817) Hannah Doty (1767-1864) > 8-- Hosea Washburn (1796-1883) Hannah Maxim (1801-1863) > 9-- Alden F Washburn (1820-1888) Judith L Jones > (1823-1887) > 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams > (1867-1950) > 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester > (1893-1968) > 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) > 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) > 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) > James Chilton and Susanna Furner along with their daughter Mary > Chilton arrived on the Mayflower in 1620 > John Winslow arrived on the Fortune in 1621. > 1-- James Chilton (1563-1620) Susanna Furner > (____-1620/1) > 2-- John Winslow (1597-1674) Mary Chilton (1607-1679) > 3-- Robert Latham (1623-1688/9) Susanna Winslow > (1627/30-1685) > 4-- Hannah Latham (____-1725) Joseph Washburn (1653-1733) > 5-- Ephraim Washburn (____-1755) Mary Polen/Pollard > (1706-1784) > 6-- Lydia Washburn (1728-____) Samuel Norris (1728-1795) > 7-- Jemima Norris (1770-____) Giddings Lane (1770-1836) > 8-- Fannie Lane (1801-1829) Edward Jones (1797-1884) > 9-- Judith L Jones (1823-1887) Alden F Washburn > (1820-1888) > 10--Edward Jones Washburn (1861-1914) Alice Eldora Williams > (1867-1950) > 11--Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) Vivian Daniel Sylvester > (1893-1968) > 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) > 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) > 14--Living Sylvester (1991-) > David Sylvester > 28 North Searsport Road > Searsport, Maine 04974 > Discuss our First Ships roots at > http://www.feliixplace.com/genealogylists/firstships.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Robert Luce <[email protected]> On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. -Antoine de Saint Exupéry