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    1. [MFLR] subscribe
    2. Deborah Brown

    11/04/2006 12:03:08
    1. [MFLR] Mary Cooke and John Rickard

    3. Mary Cooke was not married to the John Rickard born in 1652, son of Giles2, but to his cousin John born in 1657, son of John. It is written that this John "probably married Mary Snow". Two of his brothers married two of her sisters. I descend from Israel Dunham and Joanna Rickard also. I hope this helps you. Helen 1-- Francis Cooke (1580-1661) Hester Mahieu (____-____) 2-- Jacob Cook (____-1675) Damaris Hopkins (____-1665/9) 3-- Mary Cooke (1657/8-1712) John Rickard (1652-1726) 4-- Joanna Rickard (1691-1767) Israel Dunham (1689/90-1726) 5-- Cornelius Dunham (1716-1766) Patience Barrow (1724-1807) 6-- James Dunham (1758-1829) Elizabeth Robbins (1758-1820) 7-- George Dunham (____-1876) Bethiah Friend (1783-1843) 8-- Rosanna Dunham (1818-1878) William Stinson Glidden (1814-1883) 9-- Phebe Elizabeth Glidden (1840-1927) Randall Nelson Cochran (1836-1905) 10--Evelyn Lissie Cochran (1868-1917) Dummer Michael Sylvester (1865-1958) 11--Vivian Daniel Sylvester (1893-1968) Evangeline Estelle Washburn (1895-1981) 12--Living Sylvester (1917-) Living Merry (1924-) 13--David Wayne Sylvester (1951-) Living (1955-) 14--Living Sylvester (1991-)

    11/04/2006 10:48:26
    1. [MFLR] "The Pilgrims, Leiden, and the Early Years of Plymouth Plantation" by Jeremy Dupertuis Bangs, PhD
    2. STACY WOOD

    3. Premier Pilgrim historian Dr. Bangs has generously given permission to the Pennsylvania Society of Mayflower Descendants to post the first two chapters of his forthcoming book on its Website, www.SAIL1620.org. The first chapter, titled "Disordered and Unlawful Conventicles," describes the beginning of the Separatist faith, their persecution and oppression by King James I of England, and the flight of many of its members to Holland. The difference between the Separatists and the Puritans is made clear. Chapter two, titled "Amsterdam, 1608," relates the problems that they encountered with the various dissenting groups already in Amsterdam during their year there and their subsequent move to Leiden in mid-1609. The two annotated chapters are accompanied by color illustrations. The chapters may be downloaded in the pdf format. Dr. Bangs is a former curator of the 1627 Plimoth Plantation in Plymouth, MA. He is currently the director of the Leiden American Pilgrim Museum in Leiden, Holland. He is a major debunker of the many myths that have attached themselves to the Pilgrims. Two major articles about these myths are also found on www.SAIL1620.org.

    11/04/2006 07:24:20
    1. Re: [MFLR] unsubscribe
    2. Edwards, Welton

    3. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of [email protected] Sent: Sat 10/28/2006 12:37 PM To: Edwards, Welton Subject: [MFLR] unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/03/2006 02:21:49
    1. Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 35/Joseph Doty
    2. GEANELLEN

    3. I surely appreciate all the data and help that is going on abt my great great grandfather Joseph Doty. I have no where at any time found him living in Minnesota. BUT...that's not saying he didn't. On his marriage record to Eliza Coffy/Mrs. Monda it is stated that they both are of Mishawaka, Indiana, yet I have not been able to find any record that either one of them lived there. again, they might of, but not long enough to create any sort of record. In Eliza's obit it says she belonged to the M.E. church. but again, I have not been able to find any church records showing either one of them being a member. I have not been able to find any death record of Joseph, except his obit which states he died at his sons (Willis) home in Lookout, Woods Co. OK; and I know that he is buried at Alva, Woods Co. OK, as I have been to his grave site. His tombstone is a military civil war one. Eliza didn't have a headstone, she is buried according to the cemetery records right next to him. So I bought a small headstone for her and at the bottom of the stone I had them put:"great great grandmother of Geanellen." hoping by doing that, that someone else researching the family and visited the grave sites, would see my name and try and get in contact with me. I have gone to allot of different means trying to let people know who I am and what I am looking for. Anyways...thanks again for all your help, ideas and suggestions, hopefully we'll be able to "crack " open this tightly closed case soon. geanellen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 35 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 (Harlow Chandler) > 2. Re: MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34 (lynde randall) > 3. Re: DOTY (James Crippen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:34:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Harlow Chandler <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]nk.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi folks, > >>From a web search it looks to me as though many people would very much >>like to know who Joseph was. I know virtually nothing about this, but it >>is an interesting puzzle and I'm hoping for a fuller explanation of this >>solution. > > I am having trouble understanding what source goes with what fact, but in > any case it looks to me as though the critical point here is to connect > the Joseph who married Eliza Coffee to his parents. I am not seeing how > that is done. > > I do see in the Ethan Allen Doty book of 1897 the family of Solomon Doty > (page 517) and that there is a Joseph born on June 6, 1812. > > To digress a bit on that source, it appears to me that the information > given on that family was supplied by a sibling, Simon Potter Doty. If I > am right it is not through any special deductive prowess--the book reads, > "In the course of a pleasant visit...he gave many reminiscences...and > furnished much valuable information for this history." The precise birth > dates suggest to me that Simon Potter dragged out the family bible while > Ethan Allen was visiting. > > All that is said of Joseph is that he married and had children and lived > in Minnesota. > > Geanellen's peripatetic ancestor lived in many places and I may have > missed Minnesota among them as I looked at what Geanellen and others have > found. Also, this is apparently the recollection of an old man, and I > know from experience that one needs to be skeptical about that. So maybe > the Minnesota recollection is wrong or maybe Geanellen's ancestor did live > there. > > As far as I can tell, the lineage down to Solomon and maybe down Solomon's > son Joseph is documented well elsewhere. But how do we know this is the > Joseph who married Eliza and is Geanellen's ancestor? If the answer is > included in what was provided and I missed it I apologize for asking the > question. Most of the time I need the important stuff in all caps. > > > > [For what it is worth, I have a CD of NY births and baptisms for the > region as well as William McDermott's history of Clinton (1987) and > neither offers any help.] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: lynde randall <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 31, 2006 9:56 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 >> >>Hi James, >> >>I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is >>at >>the end. You'll find sources which should help. >> >>Lynde Randall >>Yarmouth, ME >>==================================================================== >>Joseph Doty >>f: Solomon Doty >>m; Hannah Shaw >>b.6 Jun 1812, New York, Greene, Windham >>d: 30 Apr 1906 OK, Woods, Alva >>m. Eliza Coffee on 30 Dec 1852, MI, Cass, Edwardsburg >>b. 1826, New York >>d: 30 Nov 1903; OK, Woods, Alva >>............... >>Name: Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) >>Given Name: Eliza >>Surname: Coffee (Monda) >>Sex: F >>Birth: 1826 in NY >>Death: 30 Nov 1903 in OK, Woods Co., Alva >> >>Marriage 1 Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >>Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >>............................................................................ >>.... >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>---- >>ID: I541011866 >>Name: Joseph DOTY >>Given Name: Joseph >>Surname: Doty >>Sex: M >>Birth: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >>Death: 30 Apr 1906 in OK, Woods Co., Alva >>Change Date: 28 Jun 2003 >> >>Father: Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Mother: Hannah SHAW b: 1776 >> >>Marriage 1 Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) b: 1826 in NY >>Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >>....................................................................... >>ID: I541013709 >>Name: Solomon DOTY >>Given Name: Solomon >>Surname: Doty >>Sex: M >>Birth: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Death: Aug 1832 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >>Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 >> >>Father: Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island >>Mother: Sarah BAKER >> >>Marriage 1 Hannah SHAW b: 1776 >>Married: c 1793 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Note: _STATMARRIED >>Children >> Moses DOTY b: 8 Feb 1795 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Simon Potter DOTY b: 9 May 1796 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Solomon DOTY b: 14 Jan 1797 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Celinda DOTY b: 17 Nov 1799 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >> Morgan Lewis DOTY b: 31 Dec 1802 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale >> Jason DOTY b: 20 Sep 1804 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale >> Mary DOTY b: 19 May 1806 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Aaron DOTY b: 30 Aug 1808 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> William DOTY b: 22 Nov 1810 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Edward DOTY b: 11 Jul 1814 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >> Margaret DOTY b: 17 Oct 1816 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> Lorenzo DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> Lorinda DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >> >>Marriage 2 Rachel DOTY b: in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >>Married: c 1787 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton 1 >>Note: _STATMARRIED >>Children >> Charles DOTY b: 1789 in NY,Dutchess Co. >> Isaac DOTY >> James DOTY >> Baby DOTY >> >>Sources: >>Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories >>Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 >>Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s >>Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:05:20 -0500 > From: "lynde randall" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think I added to the confusion. Looking this email over again I mailed > to a James and it should have been (GEANELLEN) Sorry about that. I won't > send the whole answer again as it came through twice on the last email. > >:) > > Lynde > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Dana Majernik <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joseph Doty. > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message > is at the end. You'll find sources which should help. > > Lynde Randall > Yarmouth, ME > ======================================================== > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:20:13 -0900 > From: James Crippen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Still up to your usual good work I see. > JC3 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: genferret2 <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:58 am > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY > To: [email protected] > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: James Crippen <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:52:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY >> >> Geanellen ?: >> I have read the two answers to your query . The genferret is an >> exceptional researcher. His calculator may not be working. 1st, a >> 12 year old in the Civil War veteran is cause for wonder, albeit >> possible. >> >> >> >> >> Aw shucks, James. >> >> However, if you go back and read what I said, the weasel's >> obsession with personal research honor will be appeased. The 1852 >> date is quoted from the original query. The Genferret pointed out >> that the actual date was 1812, which in fact the lady asking for >> assistance does know, as is evidenced by the mass of information >> which she has collected already on Joseph Doty. (Actually, he was >> kind of old for the war.) I merely wanted to mention that typo so >> that those capable of helping might have a sounder foundation. A >> quick check of the census, you may infer I know from experience, >> will show what the proper date must be. >> >> I do hope someone can help, and if so, please do look at that >> earlier message, which gives lots of information to get started >> with. I've used up what I can put my paws on and can't get any >> further than she has already. >> >> Now, let's get back to that pleasant theme you introduced. "An >> exceptional researcher.".. And? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MAYFLOWER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the MAYFLOWER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 35 > **************************************** >

    11/02/2006 01:39:57
    1. Re: [MFLR] DOTY
    2. James Crippen

    3. Still up to your usual good work I see. JC3 ----- Original Message ----- From: genferret2 <[email protected]> Date: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:58 am Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY To: [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: James Crippen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:52:29 AM > Subject: Re: [MFLR] DOTY > > Geanellen ?: > I have read the two answers to your query . The genferret is an > exceptional researcher. His calculator may not be working. 1st, a > 12 year old in the Civil War veteran is cause for wonder, albeit > possible. > > > > > Aw shucks, James. > > However, if you go back and read what I said, the weasel's > obsession with personal research honor will be appeased. The 1852 > date is quoted from the original query. The Genferret pointed out > that the actual date was 1812, which in fact the lady asking for > assistance does know, as is evidenced by the mass of information > which she has collected already on Joseph Doty. (Actually, he was > kind of old for the war.) I merely wanted to mention that typo so > that those capable of helping might have a sounder foundation. A > quick check of the census, you may infer I know from experience, > will show what the proper date must be. > > I do hope someone can help, and if so, please do look at that > earlier message, which gives lots of information to get started > with. I've used up what I can put my paws on and can't get any > further than she has already. > > Now, let's get back to that pleasant theme you introduced. "An > exceptional researcher.".. And? > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAYFLOWER- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/01/2006 01:20:13
    1. Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 34
    2. lynde randall

    3. I think I added to the confusion. Looking this email over again I mailed to a James and it should have been (GEANELLEN) Sorry about that. I won't send the whole answer again as it came through twice on the last email. >:) Lynde Message: 6 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:34:28 -0800 (PST) From: Dana Majernik <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MFLR] Joseph Doty. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <200611010[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is at the end. You'll find sources which should help. Lynde Randall Yarmouth, ME ========================================================

    11/01/2006 09:05:20
    1. Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32
    2. Harlow Chandler

    3. Hi folks, >From a web search it looks to me as though many people would very much like to know who Joseph was. I know virtually nothing about this, but it is an interesting puzzle and I'm hoping for a fuller explanation of this solution. I am having trouble understanding what source goes with what fact, but in any case it looks to me as though the critical point here is to connect the Joseph who married Eliza Coffee to his parents. I am not seeing how that is done. I do see in the Ethan Allen Doty book of 1897 the family of Solomon Doty (page 517) and that there is a Joseph born on June 6, 1812. To digress a bit on that source, it appears to me that the information given on that family was supplied by a sibling, Simon Potter Doty. If I am right it is not through any special deductive prowess--the book reads, "In the course of a pleasant visit...he gave many reminiscences...and furnished much valuable information for this history." The precise birth dates suggest to me that Simon Potter dragged out the family bible while Ethan Allen was visiting. All that is said of Joseph is that he married and had children and lived in Minnesota. Geanellen's peripatetic ancestor lived in many places and I may have missed Minnesota among them as I looked at what Geanellen and others have found. Also, this is apparently the recollection of an old man, and I know from experience that one needs to be skeptical about that. So maybe the Minnesota recollection is wrong or maybe Geanellen's ancestor did live there. As far as I can tell, the lineage down to Solomon and maybe down Solomon's son Joseph is documented well elsewhere. But how do we know this is the Joseph who married Eliza and is Geanellen's ancestor? If the answer is included in what was provided and I missed it I apologize for asking the question. Most of the time I need the important stuff in all caps. [For what it is worth, I have a CD of NY births and baptisms for the region as well as William McDermott's history of Clinton (1987) and neither offers any help.] -----Original Message----- >From: lynde randall <[email protected]> >Sent: Oct 31, 2006 9:56 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 > >Hi James, > >I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is at >the end. You'll find sources which should help. > >Lynde Randall >Yarmouth, ME >==================================================================== >Joseph Doty >f: Solomon Doty >m; Hannah Shaw >b.6 Jun 1812, New York, Greene, Windham >d: 30 Apr 1906 OK, Woods, Alva >m. Eliza Coffee on 30 Dec 1852, MI, Cass, Edwardsburg >b. 1826, New York >d: 30 Nov 1903; OK, Woods, Alva >............... >Name: Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) >Given Name: Eliza >Surname: Coffee (Monda) >Sex: F >Birth: 1826 in NY >Death: 30 Nov 1903 in OK, Woods Co., Alva > >Marriage 1 Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >............................................................................ >.... >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >ID: I541011866 >Name: Joseph DOTY >Given Name: Joseph >Surname: Doty >Sex: M >Birth: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham >Death: 30 Apr 1906 in OK, Woods Co., Alva >Change Date: 28 Jun 2003 > >Father: Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >Mother: Hannah SHAW b: 1776 > >Marriage 1 Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) b: 1826 in NY >Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg >....................................................................... >ID: I541013709 >Name: Solomon DOTY >Given Name: Solomon >Surname: Doty >Sex: M >Birth: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >Death: Aug 1832 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth >Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 > >Father: Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island >Mother: Sarah BAKER > >Marriage 1 Hannah SHAW b: 1776 >Married: c 1793 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >Note: _STATMARRIED >Children > Moses DOTY b: 8 Feb 1795 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton > Simon Potter DOTY b: 9 May 1796 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton > Solomon DOTY b: 14 Jan 1797 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton > Celinda DOTY b: 17 Nov 1799 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton > Morgan Lewis DOTY b: 31 Dec 1802 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale > Jason DOTY b: 20 Sep 1804 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale > Mary DOTY b: 19 May 1806 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham > Aaron DOTY b: 30 Aug 1808 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham > William DOTY b: 22 Nov 1810 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham > Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham > Edward DOTY b: 11 Jul 1814 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham > Margaret DOTY b: 17 Oct 1816 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth > Lorenzo DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth > Lorinda DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth > >Marriage 2 Rachel DOTY b: in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton >Married: c 1787 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton 1 >Note: _STATMARRIED >Children > Charles DOTY b: 1789 in NY,Dutchess Co. > Isaac DOTY > James DOTY > Baby DOTY > >Sources: >Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories >Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 >Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s >Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 >

    11/01/2006 02:34:38
    1. Re: [MFLR] MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32
    2. lynde randall

    3. Hi James, I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is at the end. You'll find sources which should help. Lynde Randall Yarmouth, ME ==================================================================== Joseph Doty f: Solomon Doty m; Hannah Shaw b.6 Jun 1812, New York, Greene, Windham d: 30 Apr 1906 OK, Woods, Alva m. Eliza Coffee on 30 Dec 1852, MI, Cass, Edwardsburg b. 1826, New York d: 30 Nov 1903; OK, Woods, Alva ............... Name: Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) Given Name: Eliza Surname: Coffee (Monda) Sex: F Birth: 1826 in NY Death: 30 Nov 1903 in OK, Woods Co., Alva Marriage 1 Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg ............................................................................ .... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ID: I541011866 Name: Joseph DOTY Given Name: Joseph Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Death: 30 Apr 1906 in OK, Woods Co., Alva Change Date: 28 Jun 2003 Father: Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Mother: Hannah SHAW b: 1776 Marriage 1 Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) b: 1826 in NY Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg ....................................................................... ID: I541013709 Name: Solomon DOTY Given Name: Solomon Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Death: Aug 1832 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 Father: Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Mother: Sarah BAKER Marriage 1 Hannah SHAW b: 1776 Married: c 1793 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Note: _STATMARRIED Children Moses DOTY b: 8 Feb 1795 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Simon Potter DOTY b: 9 May 1796 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Solomon DOTY b: 14 Jan 1797 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Celinda DOTY b: 17 Nov 1799 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Morgan Lewis DOTY b: 31 Dec 1802 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale Jason DOTY b: 20 Sep 1804 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale Mary DOTY b: 19 May 1806 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Aaron DOTY b: 30 Aug 1808 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham William DOTY b: 22 Nov 1810 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Edward DOTY b: 11 Jul 1814 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Margaret DOTY b: 17 Oct 1816 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Lorenzo DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Lorinda DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Marriage 2 Rachel DOTY b: in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Married: c 1787 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton 1 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Charles DOTY b: 1789 in NY,Dutchess Co. Isaac DOTY James DOTY Baby DOTY Sources: Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ID: I541011046 Name: Charles DOTY Given Name: Charles Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Death: c 1803 in NY,Duchess Co.,Clinton Burial: NY,Duchess Co.,Crum Elbow,Quaker burial ground 1 Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 3 4 Father: Samuel DOTY b: 1695 in NY,Queens Co.,Oyster Bay Mother: Charity MUDGE Marriage 1 Sarah BAKER Note: _STATMARRIED Children Elias DOTY b: 14 Feb 1772 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Stephen DOTY Samuel DOTY b: 1764 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Mary DOTY Sarah DOTY Phebe DOTY Ruth DOTY Margaret DOTY Marriage 2 Elizabeth TITUS Married: 20 May 1753 in NY 5 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Martha DOTY b: 1705 Sources: Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 Author: Edmund West, compiler Title: Family Data Collection - Births Page: Individual Records Title: Family History: Early New York Families, 1600s-1900s Page: Hudson-Mohawk, Vol.4 Page 1578 Author: William Wade Hinshaw Title: Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1730-1930 Page: Vol.3 Westbury MM, Page 407 ============================================ : I541009930 Name: Samuel DOTY Given Name: Samuel Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 1695 in NY,Queens Co.,Oyster Bay 1 Death: 6 May 1740 in NY,Littleworth Will: 5 May 1740 NY,Oyster Bay 2 3 Will: 6 May 1740 (codecil) NY,Oyster Bay Probate: 30 Jun 1741 NY,Oyster Bay 4 3 Religion: Quaker (Friends) 2 5 Change Date: 1 Jul 2003 2 6 4 7 Note: He was a member of the Friend's Meeting and his wife was also a Quaker. Father: Isaac DOTY b: 8 Feb 1649 in MA,Plymouth Mother: Elizabeth ENGLAND b: 1655 in RI,Portsmouth Marriage 1 Charity MUDGE Married: c 1715 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island 2 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Phebe DOTY b: c 1716 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Charity DOTY b: c 1718 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Elizabeth DOTY b: c 1720 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Deborah DOTY b: c 1728 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Isaac DOTY b: c 1726 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Stephen DOTY b: c 1728 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Elias DOTY b: c 1732 in NY,Oyster Bay,Littleworth Sources: Title: Mayflower Vital Records, Deeds and Wills, 1600s-1900s Page: Births & Deaths, Vol.1 Page 422 Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New Eng. Families, Vol.3 Pg 1272 Title: Mayflower Vital Records, Deeds and Wills, 1600s-1900s Page: Mayflower Increasings, Page 52 Author: Peter B. Hill, complier Title: Mayflower Families Through Five Generations Publication: The General Society of Mayflower Descendants @2000 Page: Part 3 Vol.2 Author: Ethan Allen Doty Title: Doty-Doten Family in America Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 Author: Edmund West, compiler Title: Family Data Collection - Births ............................................................................ ..................... =================================================== > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:52:29 -0900 > From: James Crippen <[email protected]> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: GEANELLEN <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:42 pm > Subject: [MFLR] DOTY > To: [email protected] > > > for over 30 years I have been hitting my head on a brick wall! > > looking for parents of Joseph Doty, my great great grandfather. > > His 1st marriage was in N.Y. wife name ?, 2ns wife: (my great great > > grandmother: Eliza Coffee/Mrs. Monda. > > Joseph and Eliza had 4 boys. Willis, Edwin, Oscar, Joseph A. > > I would like to prove my line back to the Pilgrim Edward Doty. > > Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec. > > 1852 in New York. ============================================================= >

    10/31/2006 02:56:14
    1. Re: [MFLR] Joseph Doty.
    2. Dana Majernik

    3. CONGRATULATIONS! I THINK YOU'VE FOUND YOUR LINEAGE. I hope this gives you a start in the right direction. >:) Your message is at the end. You'll find sources which should help. Lynde Randall Yarmouth, ME ==================================================================== Joseph Doty f: Solomon Doty m; Hannah Shaw b.6 Jun 1812, New York, Greene, Windham d: 30 Apr 1906 OK, Woods, Alva m. Eliza Coffee on 30 Dec 1852, MI, Cass, Edwardsburg b. 1826, New York d: 30 Nov 1903; OK, Woods, Alva ............... Name: Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) Given Name: Eliza Surname: Coffee (Monda) Sex: F Birth: 1826 in NY Death: 30 Nov 1903 in OK, Woods Co., Alva Marriage 1 Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg ............................................................................ .... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ID: I541011866 Name: Joseph DOTY Given Name: Joseph Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Death: 30 Apr 1906 in OK, Woods Co., Alva Change Date: 28 Jun 2003 Father: Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Mother: Hannah SHAW b: 1776 Marriage 1 Eliza COFFEE (MONDA) b: 1826 in NY Married: 30 Dec 1852 in MI, Cass Co., Edwardsburg ....................................................................... ID: I541013709 Name: Solomon DOTY Given Name: Solomon Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Death: Aug 1832 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 Father: Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Mother: Sarah BAKER Marriage 1 Hannah SHAW b: 1776 Married: c 1793 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Note: _STATMARRIED Children Moses DOTY b: 8 Feb 1795 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Simon Potter DOTY b: 9 May 1796 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Solomon DOTY b: 14 Jan 1797 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Celinda DOTY b: 17 Nov 1799 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Morgan Lewis DOTY b: 31 Dec 1802 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale Jason DOTY b: 20 Sep 1804 in NY,Columbia Co.,Hillsdale Mary DOTY b: 19 May 1806 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Aaron DOTY b: 30 Aug 1808 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham William DOTY b: 22 Nov 1810 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Joseph DOTY b: 6 Jun 1812 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Edward DOTY b: 11 Jul 1814 in NY,Greene Co.,Windham Margaret DOTY b: 17 Oct 1816 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Lorenzo DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Lorinda DOTY b: 9 May 1819 in NY,Wayne Co.,Walworth Marriage 2 Rachel DOTY b: in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Married: c 1787 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton 1 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Charles DOTY b: 1789 in NY,Dutchess Co. Isaac DOTY James DOTY Baby DOTY Sources: Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ID: I541011046 Name: Charles DOTY Given Name: Charles Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Death: c 1803 in NY,Duchess Co.,Clinton Burial: NY,Duchess Co.,Crum Elbow,Quaker burial ground 1 Change Date: 3 Jul 2003 1 2 3 4 Father: Samuel DOTY b: 1695 in NY,Queens Co.,Oyster Bay Mother: Charity MUDGE Marriage 1 Sarah BAKER Note: _STATMARRIED Children Elias DOTY b: 14 Feb 1772 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Stephen DOTY Samuel DOTY b: 1764 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Solomon DOTY b: 1769 in NY,Dutchess Co.,Clinton Mary DOTY Sarah DOTY Phebe DOTY Ruth DOTY Margaret DOTY Marriage 2 Elizabeth TITUS Married: 20 May 1753 in NY 5 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Martha DOTY b: 1705 Sources: Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New England Families, Vol.3 Pg 1273 Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 Author: Edmund West, compiler Title: Family Data Collection - Births Page: Individual Records Title: Family History: Early New York Families, 1600s-1900s Page: Hudson-Mohawk, Vol.4 Page 1578 Author: William Wade Hinshaw Title: Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1730-1930 Page: Vol.3 Westbury MM, Page 407 ============================================ : I541009930 Name: Samuel DOTY Given Name: Samuel Surname: Doty Sex: M Birth: 1695 in NY,Queens Co.,Oyster Bay 1 Death: 6 May 1740 in NY,Littleworth Will: 5 May 1740 NY,Oyster Bay 2 3 Will: 6 May 1740 (codecil) NY,Oyster Bay Probate: 30 Jun 1741 NY,Oyster Bay 4 3 Religion: Quaker (Friends) 2 5 Change Date: 1 Jul 2003 2 6 4 7 Note: He was a member of the Friend's Meeting and his wife was also a Quaker. Father: Isaac DOTY b: 8 Feb 1649 in MA,Plymouth Mother: Elizabeth ENGLAND b: 1655 in RI,Portsmouth Marriage 1 Charity MUDGE Married: c 1715 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island 2 Note: _STATMARRIED Children Phebe DOTY b: c 1716 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Charity DOTY b: c 1718 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Elizabeth DOTY b: c 1720 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Deborah DOTY b: c 1728 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Isaac DOTY b: c 1726 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Stephen DOTY b: c 1728 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Charles DOTY b: c 1730 in NY,Oyster Bay,Long Island Elias DOTY b: c 1732 in NY,Oyster Bay,Littleworth Sources: Title: Mayflower Vital Records, Deeds and Wills, 1600s-1900s Page: Births & Deaths, Vol.1 Page 422 Title: Connecticut, 1600s-1800s Local Families and Histories Page: New Eng. Families, Vol.3 Pg 1272 Title: Mayflower Vital Records, Deeds and Wills, 1600s-1900s Page: Mayflower Increasings, Page 52 Author: Peter B. Hill, complier Title: Mayflower Families Through Five Generations Publication: The General Society of Mayflower Descendants @2000 Page: Part 3 Vol.2 Author: Ethan Allen Doty Title: Doty-Doten Family in America Title: The Compendium of American Genealogy; 1600s-1800s Page: First Families of America, Vol.5 Pg 245 Author: Edmund West, compiler Title: Family Data Collection - Births ............................................................................ ..................... GEANELLEN <[email protected]> wrote: my sincere apologies to all of you who are trying to help me. I see why I have confused you all.... "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec 1852 in New York." should have read: "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers 1812 in New York. the 30 Dec 1852 date was the date of his marriage to his 2nd wife & my great great grandmother Eliza coffy/Mrs. Monda. I have not a clue why I type the wrong date. again... I'm very sorry.. But thanks for bringing this to my attention. geanellen. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/31/2006 12:34:28
    1. Re: [MFLR] Joseph Doty.
    2. Lois Kortering

    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEANELLEN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:07 AM Subject: [MFLR] Joseph Doty. > I have not a clue why I type the wrong date. > again... I'm very sorry.. But thanks for bringing this to my attention. > geanellen. Geanellen, think nothing of it because we all make those mistakes, now and then. I understood how the conversation got around to "Young boys joining the military, and I enjoyed looking at the websites that were posted about young boys/children being in the war, especially as drummers and fifers! One of the sons of my 3rd-great-grandparents must have lied his age to join at the age of 15. The Civil War pension claim that was filed on behalf of his sick and elderly, widowed father states that the son was 18 when he died from pneumonia in a military hospital in Chattanooga, TN. He had served for three years, so he must have been 15 when he volunteered. It did not state that his father signed for him to enlist, either, I don't believe. Why did he join at such a young age? The rest of the CW record file tells the story. His older brother had died at age 25 while serving in the war. His older brother had been supporting their father, financially, so the 15-year-old son decided to join in order to take care of his father. I have a friend who is trying to prove her Doty line, also, which was my other reason for being interested in your postings, and she did find out that someone in her ancestry was a fifer as a very young man, but his surname was not Doty. I wish you success in gathering your documentations, Lois Kortering Stephen Hopkins Richard Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEANELLEN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:07 AM Subject: [MFLR] Joseph Doty. > my sincere apologies to all of you who are trying to help me. > I see why I have confused you all.... > "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec 1852 in > New York." > should have read: "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers > 1812 in New York. > the 30 Dec 1852 date was the date of his marriage to his 2nd wife & my > great great grandmother Eliza coffy/Mrs. Monda. > > I have not a clue why I type the wrong date. > again... I'm very sorry.. But thanks for bringing this to my attention. > geanellen.

    10/31/2006 04:14:52
    1. [MFLR] Refutation of claim by descendants of John Chipman d. 1819 in Grant Co., KY

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chipman, Jump Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FO.2ADI/363 Message Board Post: Subject: claim of descent from John Jump Sr. (ca. 1749-1841), RW soldier who d. in Grant Co, KY, by descendants of John Chipman, d. 1819 in Grant Co., KY; this John Chipman erroneously claimed to be a son of John and Mary (Harris) Chipman of Guilford Co., NC. “Jump Genealogy” (1987 revision) by Robert Shearer et al discredits the claim that John Jump Sr. served in the NC militia during the RW. He actually served from PA. His pension records do not mention residence in NC, thus ending the claim that he served there. The claim is made that both John Chipman (d. 1819) and Perry Chipman (d. 1827) of Grant Co., KY (allegedly no. 274 & 279 respectively in “A Chipman Genealogy” 1970) were from NC, and were cousins. This claim was chiefly advanced by Everett and Lenore Chipman in their monograph “The Chipmans in Grant County, Kentucky.” Some have thought that “Perry” was a nickname for “Paris.” In reality, it seems to have been a surname used as a given name, and has no relation to “Paris” at all. That these men were from NC is easily refuted: The 1860 U.S. census for Guilford Co., NC (M653/900) pg. 9 lists Paris Chipman, age 67, white, b. NC. This is undoubtedly the real no. 274. The 1860 U.S. census for Obion Co., TN (M653/1267) pg. 60 lists JC Chipman, age 71, white, b. NC This is undoubtedly the real no. 279; it should be noted that in 1840 Obion Co. he is listed as John C.H. Chipman; some descendants of this man appear to have migrated to AR, but I have not traced them further. There is little doubt that Perry and John Chipman as discussed in paragraph 3 above were from DE and had lived for some time in VA; some farmers left VA after wearing out the poor land and relocated to PA and DE. I am not disputing the legitimacy of the descent of John and Perry Chipman of Grant Co., KY from John and Hope (Howland) Chipman; the claimed lines, however, are fallacious. Happy Halloween!

    10/31/2006 03:29:07
    1. [MFLR] Joseph Doty.
    2. GEANELLEN

    3. my sincere apologies to all of you who are trying to help me. I see why I have confused you all.... "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec 1852 in New York." should have read: "Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers 1812 in New York. the 30 Dec 1852 date was the date of his marriage to his 2nd wife & my great great grandmother Eliza coffy/Mrs. Monda. I have not a clue why I type the wrong date. again... I'm very sorry.. But thanks for bringing this to my attention. geanellen.

    10/30/2006 03:07:13
    1. Re: [MFLR] Blossom family

    3. In a message dated 10/30/2006 12:12:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Notes for BETSY ANN SMITH: Obituary Betsey Ann Fay, wife of the Rev. Cyrus H. Fay, a retired Universalist minister, died Tuesday afternoon at her home, 441 Greene Avenue, of apoplexy. Mrs. Fay was born in New York September 11, 1821, her father being Stephen Smith, a well known ship builder. She was a widow when she married Dr. Fay in 1851. She is survived by her husband and four daughters, Mrs. William A. Sutton, Mrs. Henry Brewster, Mrs. C.S.Harris and Mrs.I.F.Cooper. The Rev. J. Coleman Adams, pastor of All Souls Universalist Church, will conduct the funeral services this evening at 8 o'clock, at her late home. The burial will take place tomorrow morning in Greenwood Cemetery. Source: Brooklyn Eagle; Date: 1898 Dec. 16; Section: None; Page Number: 3 I have a question about this obituary. How did you make the connection that this Betsey Ann Fay is actually Betsey Ann Smith? There is nothing in this article to even indicate that she was previously married to Elisha Blossom, nor was there a mention of a deceased daughter Mary Ann. I suppose you must have it, but with the bio you provided for this family there was nothing to indicate a second marriage for Betsey Ann. You said you were trying to track her father for DAR reasons, but I don't see this obituary even making any kind of connection to the Blossom family at all. Therefore, I would, if I were reading newspaper obits, skip this obituary as there was no mention of the family Blossom in the article. I had tracked the Loring and Pope lines down to Joshua Loring and Innocent Pope when I was searching through the History of Hingham looking for all Hingham families that were connected to my Joy family, so I had the line down to Loshua and Innocent, but hadn't taken the line down any further. With your posting, I was able to extend the line down a few more generations. Innocent Pope is a 5th cousin. That makes Agnes Hubbard a 10th cousin. Since you didn't take your line past Agnes down to you, I'm not sure what kind of cousin you might be to me. If you would communicate to me privately your line from Agnes Hubbard and Fred Wetherbee, I'd certainly like to add your information to my database. If anyone is still living, please so indicate as I will, or you can, put the death date of after 2006 for those folks, including yourself. I have added your first name and email address as a researcher on this line so that if I come across some information or have questions in the future I can contact you. Christie Trapp

    10/30/2006 10:18:12
    1. [MFLR] Blossom family

    3. Hi Listers ~ Here's what I have on the Blossom family, down to my grandmother Agnes HUBBARD. For brevity's sake, I've taken out the other children I have in the file, and only left in my directs. If anyone is interested in the full file, I can e-mail it. Dianne * * * * * * * Descendants of Thomas Blossom Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 BLOSSOM was born Abt. 1580 in Little Shelford, Cambridge, England1, and died 1633 in Plymouth, Massachusetts. He married ANN ELSDON November 10, 1605 in Cambridge, England. She was born June 23, 1583 in Soham, Cambridge, England2. Child of THOMAS BLOSSOM and ANN ELSDON (also given as HEILSDON) is: 3. iii. PETER BLOSSOM, b. Abt. 1627, Leyden, The Netherlands; d. July 1706, Barnstable, MA. Generation No. 2 3. PETER2 BLOSSOM (THOMAS1)6 was born Abt. 1627 in Leyden, The Netherlands7, and died July 1706 in Barnstable, MA7. He married SARAH BODFISH7 June 21, 1663 in Barnstable, MA7, daughter of ROBERT BODFISH and BRIDGET. She was born Abt. 16417, and died Aft. October 17067. Child of PETER BLOSSOM and SARAH BODFISH is: 5. iv. JOSEPH BLOSSOM, b. December 10, 1673, Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts; d. Bef. November 08, 1749. Generation No. 3 5. JOSEPH3 BLOSSOM (PETER2, THOMAS1) was born December 10, 1673 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts8, and died Bef. November 08, 1749. He married (1) MARY PINCHON9 June 17, 1696 in Barnstable, Massachusetts10, daughter of THOMAS PINCHON and ELIZABETH WHITE. She was born February 14, 1669/70 in Scituate, Massachusetts10, and died April 06, 1706 in Barnstable, Massachusetts10. He married (2) MARY11 Abt. 170811. She died Aft. March 1710/1111. He married (3) MEHITABLE12 Aft. 171113. She was born Abt. 1682, and died March 16, 177113. More About MEHITABLE: Burial: Old Colonial Cemetery, Acushnet, Massachusetts Child of JOSEPH BLOSSOM and MEHITABLE is: 7. x. BENJAMIN BLOSSOM, b. March 1720/21, Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts; d. October 25, 1797, New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts. Generation No. 4 7. BENJAMIN4 BLOSSOM (JOSEPH3, PETER2, THOMAS1)13 was born March 1720/21 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts14, and died October 25, 1797 in New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts14. He married BATHSHEBA PERCIVAL October 31, 175114, daughter of JOHN PERCIVAL and MARY BOURNE. She was born December 21, 1725 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts15, and died June 27, 1796 in Dartmouth, Bristol County, Massachusetts16. More About BATHSHEBA PERCIVAL: Baptism: April 04, 1726, Sandwich, Massachusetts Child of BENJAMIN BLOSSOM and BATHSHEBA PERCIVAL is: 10. vi. ELISHA BLOSSOM, SR., b. August 23, 1767, New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts; d. September 06, 1813. Generation No. 5 10. ELISHA5 BLOSSOM, SR. (BENJAMIN4, JOSEPH3, PETER2, THOMAS1)17 was born August 23, 1767 in New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts17, and died September 06, 1813. He married BETSY LORING17 November 13, 1788 in Dartmouth, Bristol County, Massachusetts17, daughter of JOSHUA LORING and INNOCENT POPE. She was born August 17, 1770 in New Bedford, Bristol County, Massachusetts, and died September 1822 in New York, New York. More About ELISHA BLOSSOM, SR.: Fact 1: September 06, 1813, died at sea of wounds in battle between US Brig Enterprise and the Boxer. [the letter from Edward McCall reporting on this battle and giving names of killed and wounded was reprinted in several newspapers] Child of ELISHA BLOSSOM and BETSY LORING are: 14. i. ELISHA6 BLOSSOM, JR., b. September 08, 1789, New Bedford, MA.; d. December 22, 1823, New York, NY. Generation No. 6 14. ELISHA6 BLOSSOM, JR. (ELISHA5, BENJAMIN4, JOSEPH3, PETER2, THOMAS1) was born September 08, 1789 in New Bedford, MA., and died December 22, 1823 in New York, NY20. He married MARIA ANN ANDERSON October 31, 1812 in Newtown, Long Island, New York21, daughter of ANDREW ANDERSON and ANN STICKLEN. She was born July 30, 1791 in New York, NY22, and died October 21, 1850 in New York, NY23. Notes for MARIA ANN ANDERSON: Obituary from the New York Herald Wed. Oct. 23,, 1850 Last page. On Monday morning, 21st instant, after a long and painful illness, Mrs. Maria Ann Blossom, widow of the late Elisha Blossom,aged 59 years. The friends of her late husband, her son Henry E. Blossom, her late son Elisha M.[sic] Blossom, her son-in-law, Samuel Barstow, and of the family generally, are respectfully invited to attend her funeral, from 130 Madison St., on Wednesday, 23d October, at half-past 3 P.M. More About MARIA ANN ANDERSON: Baptism: August 15, 1791, New York, NY Child of ELISHA BLOSSOM and MARIA ANDERSON is: 17. i. ELISHA WILLIAM7 BLOSSOM, b. August 12, 1816, New York, NY; d. March 31, 1847, New York, NY. Generation No. 7 17. ELISHA WILLIAM7 BLOSSOM (ELISHA6, ELISHA5, BENJAMIN4, JOSEPH3, PETER2, THOMAS1) was born August 12, 1816 in New York, NY, and died March 31, 1847 in New York, NY25. He married BETSY ANN SMITH April 24, 1839 in New York, NY26, daughter of STEPHEN SMITH and MARY LOCKWOOD. She was born September 11, 1821 in New York, NY, and died December 13, 1898 in Brooklyn, Kings County, NY27. Notes for BETSY ANN SMITH: Obituary Betsey Ann Fay, wife of the Rev. Cyrus H. Fay, a retired Universalist minister, died Tuesday afternoon at her home, 441 Greene Avenue, of apoplexy. Mrs. Fay was born in New York September 11, 1821, her father being Stephen Smith, a well known ship builder. She was a widow when she married Dr. Fay in 1851. She is survived by her husband and four daughters, Mrs. William A. Sutton, Mrs. Henry Brewster, Mrs. C.S.Harris and Mrs.I.F.Cooper. The Rev. J. Coleman Adams, pastor of All Souls Universalist Church, will conduct the funeral services this evening at 8 o'clock, at her late home. The burial will take place tomorrow morning in Greenwood Cemetery. Source: Brooklyn Eagle; Date: 1898 Dec. 16; Section: None; Page Number: 3 Child of ELISHA BLOSSOM and BETSY SMITH is: 21. i. MARY ANN8 BLOSSOM, b. March 12, 1840, New York, NY; d. October 09, 1884, Middletown, Middlesex, Connecticut. Generation No. 8 21. MARY ANN8 BLOSSOM (ELISHA WILLIAM7, ELISHA6, ELISHA5, BENJAMIN4, JOSEPH3, PETER2, THOMAS1) was born March 12, 1840 in New York, NY35, and died October 09, 1884 in Middletown, Middlesex, Connecticut35. She married CHARLES CARROLL HUBBARD March 22, 1860 in Providence, RI36, son of ASA HUBBARD and SARAH TRYON. He was born April 01, 1832 in Wadesboro, Anson County, NC37, and died September 30, 1898 in Morristown, NJ37. More About MARY ANN BLOSSOM: Burial: Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT More About CHARLES CARROLL HUBBARD: Burial: Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT Child of MARY BLOSSOM and CHARLES HUBBARD is: i. AGNES9 HUBBARD, b. December 28, 1864, Middletown, Middlesex, Connecticut38; d. January 21, 1950, Melrose Park, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania39; m. FRED THRASHER WETHERBEE, December 28, 1889, Hartford, CT.40; b. March 29, 1862, Windsor, Windsor County, Vermont41; d. March 15, 1917, Wyncote, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania41. Endnotes 1. The American Genealogist,Volume 63, No. 2. Whole Number 250, April 1988, 73, The Blossom Family of Cambridgeshire, England and New England by John Insley Coddington, F.A.S.G. and Maclean W. McLean, F.A.S.G.. 2. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, No. 2., Whole Number 250, April 1988, 74. 3. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 2, April 1988, 77. 4. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 238. 5. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 239. 6. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 2, April 1988, 77. 7. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 239. 8. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 242. 9. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 243. 10. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 242. 11. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 243. 12. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 242. 13. The American Genealogist, Volume 63, Number 4, October 1988., 243. 14. The American Genealogist, Volume 64, Number 1, January 1989, 24. 15. NEHG Register, Volume 118, July1964. 16. The American Genealogist, Volume 64, Number 1, January 1989, 24. 17. The American Genealogist, Volume 64, Number 1, January 1989, 26. 18. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003, 1820 9/21 Last eve Halletts Cove LI Rev. Mr. Johnson, BENJAMIN BLOSSOM, merchant of this city to MARGARET BLACKWELL dau of Samuel of former place. . 19. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003, 1842 9/8 Brooklyn, L.I. 6th inst.Rev. F.A.Farley, JOHN H. FAXON merchant of this city to Emeline Augusta eldest dau. of Benjamin BLOSSOM all of Brooklyn. . 20. New York Post 1801-1890, 12/23/1823 Yesterday Elisha Blossom. 21. New York Weekly Museum, Volume I, Issue 28, 1812-11-14, Married, At Newtown, (L.I.) by the rev. Mr. Boardman, Mr. Elisha Blossom, jun. to Miss Maria A. Anderson, both of this city. 22. Records of the First Presbyterian Church of the City of New York - Births and Baptisms, NYGBS Record. 23. New York Post 1801-1890, 10/21/1850 Oct. 21, Mrs. Maria Ann Blossom 59y. 24. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003, 1843 12/22 Brooklyn, 20th inst.Rev. F.A.Farley, WILLIAM S.TISDALE of N.Y. to CAROLINE B. dau. of BENJAMIN BLOSSOM all of Brooklyn . 25. New York Post 1801-1890, 4/1/1847 Wed. Mar 31, Elisha V.[sic] Blossom s late Elisha in 31 y Mother Maria Ann Blossom father in law Stephen Smith brother H.E. Blossom brothers in law S Barstow and Peter S. Hoe. 31 Rutgers St. . 26. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003.) (Unpublished typescript transcriptions of original notices by Gertrude A. Barber, R. Stanton Avery Collection, NEHGS, Boston MA. "New York Evening Post, New York City, Marriages 1933-1948) 27. New York Vital Records. 28. New York Post 1801-1890, 1/6/1845 Sat. Jan. 4, Elisha Smith only son of Elisha W & Betsey Ann Blossom 1 y 7 m.. 29. New York Post 1801-1890, 9/8/1863 Sept 8, Henry E. Blossom 46 y father in law Stephen Smith of Portchester. 30. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003, 1846 4/2 2nd inst. Rev. Thomas J. Sawyer, HENRY E. BLOSSOM to Mary Jane daughter of Stephen Smith, all of this city.. 31. A Historical Sketch of the Town of Hanover, Massachusetts, by John S. Barry, Boston, 1853, 230. 32. Marriage Notices from the New York Evening Post, 1801-1890 (Online database: New England Ancestors.org. New England Hist. Genealogical Society, 2003, 1829 6/29 27th inst. by Rev. Mr. Shaeffer, Samuel Barstow, merchant, to Mary Tylee [sic] Blossom, dau. of late Elisha, all of this city. . 33. Deaths from the New York Post, 1801-1890, available online at http://www.newenglandancestors.org, 3/8/1845 Friday Mar 7, Elisha Blossom only dau [sic - should be son] Samuel and Mary (Taylor) Tyler Blossom 5 y late Grandfather Elisha Blossom 130 Madison St. 34. Deaths from the New York Post, 1801-1890, available online at http://www.newenglandancestors.org, 3/17/1845 Sat Mar 15, Mary Blossom y dau. of Samuel and Mary Tyler Blossom [Barstow] 2y 7m. 35. Cemetery Record, Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT. 36. Broderbund Software, Inc., Banner Blue Division, Family History: Rhode Island Genealogies #1, Genealogies of R.I. Families, Volume II, Rev.Cyrus Hyde Fay's Record of Marriages, 1840-1901,, (CD 180), "CD-ROM," 410. 37. Cemetery Record, Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT. 38. Ct. VR 39. grave stone, Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT. 40. NEHG Register,Volume 77, July 1923, 190. 41. grave stone, Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT. 42. NEHG Register, Volume 77, July 1923, 190. 43. Cemetery Record, Pine Grove Cemetery, Middletown, CT.

    10/30/2006 08:11:16
    1. Re: [MFLR] DOTY

    3. In a message dated 10/28/2006 3:42:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: for over 30 years I have been hitting my head on a brick wall! looking for parents of Joseph Doty, my great great grandfather. His 1st marriage was in N.Y. wife name ?, 2ns wife: (my great great grandmother: Eliza Coffee/Mrs. Monda. Joseph and Eliza had 4 boys. Willis, Edwin, Oscar, Joseph A. I would like to prove my line back to the Pilgrim Edward Doty. Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec. 1852 in New York Your information on New York is rather vague. You are going to probably have to look in all 52 counties in order to find your folks unless you just happen to come across something more definitive, like a specific county or a specific city or town. I'm surprised your civil war papers didn't have something more specific about his exact place of birth besides just 30 Dec 1852 in New York. My great grandfather cited his place of birth on an affidavit for his pension. I suggest you re-read your documents more closely. Look for affidavits where he names his wife and kids. Look at any affidavits from his friends who knew him because they had to state how they knew him and that he wasn't of unsound character as well in order for him to get his pension benefits. My great grandfather was from New York as well and his civil war papers put him in an exact location so that I could continue researching his side of the family. So look again at what you've got. Christie Trapp

    10/30/2006 06:36:53
    1. Re: [MFLR] DOTY

    3. In a message dated 10/28/2006 3:42:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: for over 30 years I have been hitting my head on a brick wall! looking for parents of Joseph Doty, my great great grandfather. His 1st marriage was in N.Y. wife name ?, 2ns wife: (my great great grandmother: Eliza Coffee/Mrs. Monda. Joseph and Eliza had 4 boys. Willis, Edwin, Oscar, Joseph A. I would like to prove my line back to the Pilgrim Edward Doty. Joseph Doty was born according to his civil war papers: 30 Dec. 1852 in New York Your information on New York is rather vague. You are going to probably have to look in all 52 counties in order to find your folks unless you just happen to come across something more definitive, like a specific county or a specific city or town. I'm surprised your civil war papers didn't have something more specific about his exact place of birth besides just 30 Dec 1852 in New York. My great grandfather cited his place of birth on an affidavit for his pension. I suggest you re-read your documents more closely. Look for affidavits where he names his wife and kids. Look at any affidavits from his friends who knew him because they had to state how they knew him and that he wasn't of unsound character as well in order for him to get his pension benefits. My great grandfather was from New York as well and his civil war papers put him in an exact location so that I could continue researching his side of the family. So look again at what you've got. Christie Trapp

    10/30/2006 06:36:51
    1. Re: [MFLR] Documentation question.....Stephen SMITH

    3. Susan wrote: >>One comment on your data below - you say you need the m/c for Betsey Ann Smith's parents. Your line below appears to go thru her husband, Elisha Blossom, so why are you looking for her parents' m/c?<< The line does actually go through the Blossoms......I'd like to find that Smith marriage for a supplemental for DAR. :-) Dianne

    10/30/2006 02:55:50
    1. Re: [MFLR] Documentation question.....Stephen SMITH
    2. Sue Roser

    3. Dianne, It sounds like you are doing very well with your documentation, however it's difficult for me to judge your sources without actually seeing them. All I can say is that you make sure you have proven parentage of your line carriers with a primary record wherever possible and you have used primary records to prove your dates whenever possible. (Primary records: birth/marriage/death records, church records, bible records.) Secondary sources such as town and family genealogies, obits, census, (to name a few) are also acceptable when primary sources are not available. The only exception to this is any date in the 1900's which is expected to be proven with a long form primary record (b/m/d records). Lacking a document to prove a date sometimes cannot be avoided. Lineages are still approved when the dates of one or two events cannot be supported with a source. (We try to narrow an event down to "before/after 11 Jan 1863", etc. so that we at least have an idea of the time frame.) One comment on your data below - you say you need the m/c for Betsey Ann Smith's parents. Your line below appears to go thru her husband, Elisha Blossom, so why are you looking for her parents' m/c? Susan www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html Hi Susan ~ Here's what I have..... through Abigail Church is in the silver books...... Name: Abigail Church Sex: F Birth: 8 OCT 1719 in Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island then it goes to Seth Pope and Abigail Church..... Innocent Pope and Joshua Loring..... Betsy Loring and Elisha Blossom, Sr....... Elisha Blossom, Jr., and Maria Ann Anderson..... (all proven with VRs and/or solid histories, and/or newspaper marriages or obits.)..... Elisha William Blossom and Betsey Ann Smith (her parents are the ones I need a marriage record for, but I do have an obit. that states that her father was Stephen Smith, shipbuilder of NYC)......Minister's records and/or obits..... Mary Ann Blossom and Charles Carroll Hubbard - Minister's records and obits Agnes Hubbard (my grandmother).....actual marriage record .....and/or birth/death records and all other records down to me are actual marriage/birth/death records Is that enough proof? Dianne

    10/30/2006 02:06:16
    1. Re: [MFLR] DOTY 12 year olds
    2. Stefanie

    3. Weren't drummer boys that young? Stefanie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006

    10/30/2006 12:36:25