Please respond if anyone has had a problem ordering the book "Beyond the Pilgrims" from, supposedly, Rob Sheehan, son of the author, Robert R. Sheehan, who passed away more than a year ago. Lois Kortering

Dale: Thanks for the parentage. Now I know to which family to connect John. Christie

At 08:54 AM 11/6/2006, Debi wrote: >Is there a way to discover all of the books that Google has or do you just >have to hit and miss with a title? Debi - It seems rather hit-or-miss. I've found four volumes of Plymouth Colony Records so far, and have not been able to find any search criterion that will hit all four at once.

>>I have not yet found a resource that proves that the Polly Beebe who married James Crippen in Athens County OH is indeed the daughter of Hobson Beebe of same county.<< Susie ~ The 1880 census shows Hopson "Bube" and family. There is a daughter Mary, age 8. Could she be your Polly? Year: 1880; Census Place: Rome, Athens, Ohio; Roll: T9_993; Family History Film: 1254993; Page: 177.1000; Enumeration District: 11 Dianne

At 08:29 AM 11/6/2006, Harlow Chandler wrote: >The volume of laws is also at Google Books. Harlow - I didn't see that one, which should be Vol. XI - what is the URL? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

At 08:20 AM 11/6/2006, Harlow Chandler wrote: >Among the many treasures now online through this Google service >(including such things as the tans series MA VR and many local >histories available as free PDF downloads, peeks into MD and lots >more) there is AT LEAST volume one of Nathaniel Bradstreet >Shurtleff, David Pulsifer_Records of the Colony of New Plymouth, in >New England_(Press of W. White, 1855) > >But, what about the other 11 volumes? Are they also available here? Harlow - Searching for them seems a hit-or-miss proposition. I was able to find Vol I (Court Orders, 1633-1640) by searching for "plymouth" (and) "laws" - watch the wrap: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC02535001&id=nUEOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR3&lpg=PR3&dq=plymouth+colony&as_brr=1&ie=ISO-8859-1 Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

Harlow wrote: >>Among the many treasures now online through this Google service (including such things as the tans series MA VR and many local histories available as free PDF downloads, peeks into MD and lots more) there is AT LEAST volume one of Nathaniel Bradstreet Shurtleff, David Pulsifer_Records of the Colony of New Plymouth, in New England_(Press of W. White, 1855)<< Harlow ~ Try using the advanced search link, and in the exact phrase box, put in "colony of new plymouth" with the quotes and all in lower case. It brought up three hits for me and the first one was Shurtleff one. Dianne

Is there a way to discover all of the books that Google has or do you just have to hit and miss with a title? Thank you, Debi -----Original Message----- The volume of laws is also at Google Books. These are out of Stanford's library, so I feel all 12 volumes probably are scanned, but how does one find them?

The volume of laws is also at Google Books. These are out of Stanford's library, so I feel all 12 volumes probably are scanned, but how does one find them?

This is addressed especially to any of you who have mastered the search at Google Books. Among the many treasures now online through this Google service (including such things as the tans series MA VR and many local histories available as free PDF downloads, peeks into MD and lots more) there is AT LEAST volume one of Nathaniel Bradstreet Shurtleff, David Pulsifer_Records of the Colony of New Plymouth, in New England_(Press of W. White, 1855) This is the deeds book, so it's a good one to have (this one is not in PDF for download, but you can read it online). But, what about the other 11 volumes? Are they also available here? I have not been able to find them, but I have not put a lot of effort into it yet, partly because I have tried this with the Essex Antiquarian. For anyone interested, the Essex Antiquarian is also available, but this time as a PDF download too, through Google Books. I tried to find every volume, but I have been able only to find about half of them, and even when I search by publishing year I get frustrating results. But there are other avenues for that particular work--it's PCR that I'm lusting after at the moment. I won't describe my problems with the search at Google Books, but if someone knows how to find the other 11 volumes of PCR, assuming that they are there, it would be an immense service to the list if an explanation were posted here. Would you like to have free online access to PCR from home any time? I thought so. If someone knows or can find out if Google Books really has that, please let us all know.

Thanks for that, Dianne, but this Polly died in 1846 and her father in 1836. I should have included that information. I did know that others say that Hopson [1749-1836] had a daughter Polly and that Polly is a nickname for Mary. I have several other Pollys in my families. I just can't prove the connection. Thanks for your help. Susie --- [email protected] wrote: > >>I have not yet found a resource that proves that > the > Polly Beebe who married James Crippen in Athens > County > OH is indeed the daughter of Hobson Beebe of same > county.<< > > Susie ~ The 1880 census shows Hopson "Bube" and > family. There is a > daughter Mary, age 8. Could she be your Polly? > > Year: 1880; Census Place: Rome, Athens, Ohio; > Roll: T9_993; > Family History Film: 1254993; Page: 177.1000; > Enumeration District: 11 > > Dianne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Could Polly Beebe Crippen have been named in a will or estate record for Hobson Beebe? She died 10 years after he did. Does anyone have this record from Athens County OH? Susie Holderfield

Hi James, I have not yet found a resource that proves that the Polly Beebe who married James Crippen in Athens County OH is indeed the daughter of Hobson Beebe of same county. Other than the fact that she is buried in the same cemetery with other Beebe relatives, I don't know how to prove it. Any help from anyone appreciated! Susie Holderfield

At 12:52 PM 11/5/2006, Christie Trapp wrote: >Could someone please provide the linege for >the John Rickard that married Mary Cooke? Christie - Mary Cooke's husband John Rickard was the son of John and Esther (Barnes) Rickard, and the grandson of Giles and Judith (Cogan) Rickard. His cousin John Rickard married Mary (___) (not demonstrably a Snow), and was the son of Giles and Hannah (Dunham) Rickard and the grandson of Giles and Judith (Cogan) Rickard. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

In a message dated 11/4/2006 7:04:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Mary Cooke was not married to the John Rickard born in 1652, son of Giles2, >but to his cousin John born in 1657, son of John. It is written >that this John >"probably married Mary Snow". Although there has long been speculation that Mary, wife of John^3 Rickard (Giles^2, Giles^1) was Mary Snow, daughter of William Snow and Rebecca^2 Brown (Peter^1), no evidence has been found to support that speculation and it has been rejected by the GSMD. Dale H. Cook Okay, I've got Mary Cook with parents, but I have a lot of John's and several Giles Rickards in my database. Could someone please provide the linege for the John Rickard that married Mary Cooke? At this point, I have no parents and don't want to hook him to any ol' John since Dale indicates he married a John who was a cousin. But which one? Christie Trapp

-----Original Message----- >From: Linda Smith <[email protected]> >Sent: Nov 4, 2006 9:10 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MFLR] Miriam Standish > >Hello listers, > > I have come across a Miriam Standish who m. Joshua Jackson 'Jr.' in Peru, Berkshire, MA on Nov 24, 1796. I do not know the identity of this Miriam or this Joshua Jackson. I thought perhaps with the last name 'Standish' she could be a Miles Standish descendant. Does anyone out there know the identity of these people? I think that Joshua was my 6th great grandfather. Thanks, Hi Linda, I don't know, but I do see that in the census there's a Jonas Standish (two, actually) in Peru in 1800 (well, it wasn't called Peru then, but same place). There was a Jonas Standish who is a descendant of Myles b. 1751. He's not followed in the old Standish gen., but if he lived he'd be a good age to have a daughter who married in 1796. I don't have time tonight to look further, but if the name Jonas appears in your family later maybe this would be worth checking. The Peru VR wasn't helpful, as you probably know already. Good luck.

At 05:48 PM 11/4/2006, Helen wrote: >Mary Cooke was not married to the John Rickard born in 1652, son of Giles2, >but to his cousin John born in 1657, son of John. It is written >that this John >"probably married Mary Snow". Although there has long been speculation that Mary, wife of John^3 Rickard (Giles^2, Giles^1) was Mary Snow, daughter of William Snow and Rebecca^2 Brown (Peter^1), no evidence has been found to support that speculation and it has been rejected by the GSMD. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project http://members.cox.net/plymouthcolony/index.shtml

Linda, In Mayflower Families Vol 16 (Standish) p. 160 there is a Miriam6, dau of Jonas5, (Israel4, Samuel3, Josiah2, Myles) Standish and Sarah Stedman. Miriam was b. ca. 1772 (does not give place). Among the references listed for this family are Peru-Hinsdale Baptist Church records. This Jonas was b. Norwich, CT 3 Nov 1751 and mentioned in the 1790 census of West Stockbridge. On 23 March 1772 Jonas Standish of Amenia, NY bought land in West Stockbridge from Ellias Willard. hope this helps. Randy At 08:10 PM 11/4/2006, Linda Smith wrote: >Hello listers, > > I have come across a Miriam Standish who m. Joshua Jackson 'Jr.' in Peru, Berkshire, MA on Nov 24, 1796. I do not know the identity of this Miriam or this Joshua Jackson. I thought perhaps with the last name 'Standish' she could be a Miles Standish descendant. Does anyone out there know the identity of these people? I think that Joshua was my 6th great grandfather. Thanks, > > Linda Smith > Nashville, TN > >---------------------------------------- >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 175 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Harlow. I will see what I can turn up on Jonas. At least that's somewhere to start! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harlow Chandler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MFLR] Miriam Standish > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Linda Smith <[email protected]> > >Sent: Nov 4, 2006 9:10 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [MFLR] Miriam Standish > > > >Hello listers, > > > > I have come across a Miriam Standish who m. Joshua Jackson 'Jr.' in Peru, Berkshire, MA on Nov 24, 1796. I do not know the identity of this Miriam or this Joshua Jackson. I thought perhaps with the last name 'Standish' she could be a Miles Standish descendant. Does anyone out there know the identity of these people? I think that Joshua was my 6th great grandfather. Thanks, > > > Hi Linda, > > I don't know, but I do see that in the census there's a Jonas Standish (two, actually) in Peru in 1800 (well, it wasn't called Peru then, but same place). There was a Jonas Standish who is a descendant of Myles b. 1751. He's not followed in the old Standish gen., but if he lived he'd be a good age to have a daughter who married in 1796. I don't have time tonight to look further, but if the name Jonas appears in your family later maybe this would be worth checking. The Peru VR wasn't helpful, as you probably know already. Good luck. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 175 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com

Hello listers, I have come across a Miriam Standish who m. Joshua Jackson 'Jr.' in Peru, Berkshire, MA on Nov 24, 1796. I do not know the identity of this Miriam or this Joshua Jackson. I thought perhaps with the last name 'Standish' she could be a Miles Standish descendant. Does anyone out there know the identity of these people? I think that Joshua was my 6th great grandfather. Thanks, Linda Smith Nashville, TN ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 175 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com