Thanks, nor do I.  Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7. -------- Original message --------From: Sue via MAYFLOWER <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Date: 3/15/19 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Cc: Sue <ssyquia@aol.com> Subject: [MFLR] Re: RE I have no idea what this is or how this information was put on the www. Security??Sue-----Original Message-----From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net>To: mayflower <mayflower@rootsweb.com>Sent: Fri, Mar 15, 2019 10:55 amSubject: [MFLR] Re: REHello, Nope I  apologize if you received something from me. All of my MF people are mostly in Massachusetts and I am in California.Linda Chesson> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Martha Endres <Martha627@suddenlink.net> wrote:> > Hi,> > Did you mean to send this to me?> > I am the Corresponding Secretary for The Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of West Virginia.> > Martha Endres> > -----Original Message----- From: Lynde C Randall> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:49 PM> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MFLR] RE> > Deborah,> > I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a> long time.> > A life member.  L3278> > I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there.> > The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the> returned mail right here.  Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back.> >  I sent out twice and no known address.  So, he may have died.> > One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address.  That didn't> come back 2018.> > L.> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> ---------------------------> > > Mayflower Members> > > ID> > ME #> > GS #> > Date Updated> > FIRST NAME> > MIDDLE NAME> > MAIDEN NAME> > LAST NAME> > Title> > Suffix> > ADDRESS> > CITY> > COUNTRY> > STATE> > ZIP CODE> > EMAIL> > PHONE> > DATE CHANGED> > SPOUSE> > DOB> > Ancestors> > MEMBER TYPE> > Historian> > APPROVED> > TRANS IN> > Activity> > CERT> > DROPPED> > REINSTATED> > DEATH> > RESIGNED> > TRANS OUT> > > 341> > 3278> > 77534> > TAMI RAE> > DOUGLAS> > BLAKE> > 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16> > Windam> > USA> > ME> > 04062-> > 207 749-2169> > 11/18> > 5/17/1905> > Alden> > LIF> > 5/1/2007> > Y> > No> > > > > > Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018> > Name:                                  Tami Blake> > Gender:                              Female> > Death Age:                          47> > Birth Date:                          28 Aug 1965> > Birth Place:                        Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA> > Residence Place:              Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA> > Death Date:                        31 Dec 2012> > Obituary Date:                  30 Dec 2012> > Source location:                USA> > Spouse:                                *Gary Douglas Blake> > Children:                              Lexington> > Parents:                              Norman Leroy Gustafson> > Father:                                Oscar Phillips> > Siblings:  Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky,> both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and> wife, Chris, both of Lexington> > 3297      Connor Bennett Blake> > 3298      Austin Douglas Blake> > 3299      Matthew Gregory Blake> > *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME> > > > > > I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF.> > If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the> father who may not be a member.> > > > Lynde> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> _______________________________________________> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________> Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm> _______________________________________________> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community_______________________________________________Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community_______________________________________________Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have no idea what this is or how this information was put on the www. Security?? Sue -----Original Message----- From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> To: mayflower <mayflower@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 15, 2019 10:55 am Subject: [MFLR] Re: RE Hello, Nope I  apologize if you received something from me. All of my MF people are mostly in Massachusetts and I am in California. Linda Chesson > On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Martha Endres <Martha627@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > Did you mean to send this to me? > > I am the Corresponding Secretary for The Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of West Virginia. > > Martha Endres > > -----Original Message----- From: Lynde C Randall > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:49 PM > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] RE > > Deborah, > > I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a > long time. > > A life member.  L3278 > > I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. > > The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the > returned mail right here.  Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. > >  I sent out twice and no known address.  So, he may have died. > > One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address.  That didn't > come back 2018. > > L. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------- > > > Mayflower Members > > > ID > > ME # > > GS # > > Date Updated > > FIRST NAME > > MIDDLE NAME > > MAIDEN NAME > > LAST NAME > > Title > > Suffix > > ADDRESS > > CITY > > COUNTRY > > STATE > > ZIP CODE > > EMAIL > > PHONE > > DATE CHANGED > > SPOUSE > > DOB > > Ancestors > > MEMBER TYPE > > Historian > > APPROVED > > TRANS IN > > Activity > > CERT > > DROPPED > > REINSTATED > > DEATH > > RESIGNED > > TRANS OUT > > > 341 > > 3278 > > 77534 > > TAMI RAE > > DOUGLAS > > BLAKE > > 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16 > > Windam > > USA > > ME > > 04062- > > 207 749-2169 > > 11/18 > > 5/17/1905 > > Alden > > LIF > > 5/1/2007 > > Y > > No > > > > > > Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018 > > Name:                                  Tami Blake > > Gender:                              Female > > Death Age:                          47 > > Birth Date:                          28 Aug 1965 > > Birth Place:                        Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA > > Residence Place:              Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA > > Death Date:                        31 Dec 2012 > > Obituary Date:                  30 Dec 2012 > > Source location:                USA > > Spouse:                                *Gary Douglas Blake > > Children:                              Lexington > > Parents:                              Norman Leroy Gustafson > > Father:                                Oscar Phillips > > Siblings:  Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky, > both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and > wife, Chris, both of Lexington > > 3297      Connor Bennett Blake > > 3298      Austin Douglas Blake > > 3299      Matthew Gregory Blake > > *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME > > > > > > I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF. > > If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the > father who may not be a member. > > > > Lynde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

This was posted the rarely-used Rootsweb Mayflower mailing list. Any email that comes with the [MFLR] tag is from this list that you subscribed to. Thanks! Craig Rich From my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> wrote: > > Hello, > Nope I apologize if you received something from me. All of my MF people are mostly in Massachusetts and I am in California. > > Linda Chesson > >> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Martha Endres <Martha627@suddenlink.net> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Did you mean to send this to me? >> >> I am the Corresponding Secretary for The Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of West Virginia. >> >> Martha Endres >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Lynde C Randall >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:49 PM >> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MFLR] RE >> >> Deborah, >> >> I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a >> long time. >> >> A life member. L3278 >> >> I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. >> >> The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the >> returned mail right here. Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. >> >> I sent out twice and no known address. So, he may have died. >> >> One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address. That didn't >> come back 2018. >> >> L. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello, No I didn’t send this. Linda > On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Lynde C Randall <lynderandall@maine.rr.com> wrote: > > Deborah, > > I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a > long time. > > A life member. L3278 > > I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. > > The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the > returned mail right here. Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. > > I sent out twice and no known address. So, he may have died. > > One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address. That didn't > come back 2018. > > L. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------- > > > Mayflower Members > > > ID > > ME # > > GS # > > Date Updated > > FIRST NAME > > MIDDLE NAME > > MAIDEN NAME > > LAST NAME > > Title > > Suffix > > ADDRESS > > CITY > > COUNTRY > > STATE > > ZIP CODE > > EMAIL > > PHONE > > DATE CHANGED > > SPOUSE > > DOB > > Ancestors > > MEMBER TYPE > > Historian > > APPROVED > > TRANS IN > > Activity > > CERT > > DROPPED > > REINSTATED > > DEATH > > RESIGNED > > TRANS OUT > > > 341 > > 3278 > > 77534 > > TAMI RAE > > DOUGLAS > > BLAKE > > 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16 > > Windam > > USA > > ME > > 04062- > > 207 749-2169 > > 11/18 > > 5/17/1905 > > Alden > > LIF > > 5/1/2007 > > Y > > No > > > > > > Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018 > > Name: Tami Blake > > Gender: Female > > Death Age: 47 > > Birth Date: 28 Aug 1965 > > Birth Place: Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA > > Residence Place: Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA > > Death Date: 31 Dec 2012 > > Obituary Date: 30 Dec 2012 > > Source location: USA > > Spouse: *Gary Douglas Blake > > Children: Lexington > > Parents: Norman Leroy Gustafson > > Father: Oscar Phillips > > Siblings: Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky, > both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and > wife, Chris, both of Lexington > > 3297 Connor Bennett Blake > > 3298 Austin Douglas Blake > > 3299 Matthew Gregory Blake > > *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME > > > > > > I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF. > > If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the > father who may not be a member. > > > > Lynde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello, Nope I apologize if you received something from me. All of my MF people are mostly in Massachusetts and I am in California. Linda Chesson > On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Martha Endres <Martha627@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > Did you mean to send this to me? > > I am the Corresponding Secretary for The Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of West Virginia. > > Martha Endres > > -----Original Message----- From: Lynde C Randall > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:49 PM > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] RE > > Deborah, > > I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a > long time. > > A life member. L3278 > > I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. > > The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the > returned mail right here. Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. > > I sent out twice and no known address. So, he may have died. > > One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address. That didn't > come back 2018. > > L. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------- > > > Mayflower Members > > > ID > > ME # > > GS # > > Date Updated > > FIRST NAME > > MIDDLE NAME > > MAIDEN NAME > > LAST NAME > > Title > > Suffix > > ADDRESS > > CITY > > COUNTRY > > STATE > > ZIP CODE > > EMAIL > > PHONE > > DATE CHANGED > > SPOUSE > > DOB > > Ancestors > > MEMBER TYPE > > Historian > > APPROVED > > TRANS IN > > Activity > > CERT > > DROPPED > > REINSTATED > > DEATH > > RESIGNED > > TRANS OUT > > > 341 > > 3278 > > 77534 > > TAMI RAE > > DOUGLAS > > BLAKE > > 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16 > > Windam > > USA > > ME > > 04062- > > 207 749-2169 > > 11/18 > > 5/17/1905 > > Alden > > LIF > > 5/1/2007 > > Y > > No > > > > > > Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018 > > Name: Tami Blake > > Gender: Female > > Death Age: 47 > > Birth Date: 28 Aug 1965 > > Birth Place: Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA > > Residence Place: Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA > > Death Date: 31 Dec 2012 > > Obituary Date: 30 Dec 2012 > > Source location: USA > > Spouse: *Gary Douglas Blake > > Children: Lexington > > Parents: Norman Leroy Gustafson > > Father: Oscar Phillips > > Siblings: Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky, > both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and > wife, Chris, both of Lexington > > 3297 Connor Bennett Blake > > 3298 Austin Douglas Blake > > 3299 Matthew Gregory Blake > > *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME > > > > > > I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF. > > If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the > father who may not be a member. > > > > Lynde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Did you mean to send this to me? I am the Corresponding Secretary for The Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of West Virginia. Martha Endres -----Original Message----- From: Lynde C Randall Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:49 PM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] RE Deborah, I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a long time. A life member. L3278 I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the returned mail right here. Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. I sent out twice and no known address. So, he may have died. One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address. That didn't come back 2018. L. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Mayflower Members ID ME # GS # Date Updated FIRST NAME MIDDLE NAME MAIDEN NAME LAST NAME Title Suffix ADDRESS CITY COUNTRY STATE ZIP CODE EMAIL PHONE DATE CHANGED SPOUSE DOB Ancestors MEMBER TYPE Historian APPROVED TRANS IN Activity CERT DROPPED REINSTATED DEATH RESIGNED TRANS OUT 341 3278 77534 TAMI RAE DOUGLAS BLAKE 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16 Windam USA ME 04062- 207 749-2169 11/18 5/17/1905 Alden LIF 5/1/2007 Y No Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018 Name: Tami Blake Gender: Female Death Age: 47 Birth Date: 28 Aug 1965 Birth Place: Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA Residence Place: Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA Death Date: 31 Dec 2012 Obituary Date: 30 Dec 2012 Source location: USA Spouse: *Gary Douglas Blake Children: Lexington Parents: Norman Leroy Gustafson Father: Oscar Phillips Siblings: Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky, both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and wife, Chris, both of Lexington 3297 Connor Bennett Blake 3298 Austin Douglas Blake 3299 Matthew Gregory Blake *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF. If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the father who may not be a member. Lynde _______________________________________________ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Deborah, I think this is one of the ones that has been receiving MF information for a long time. A life member. L3278 I couldn't find her in the database but her family is there. The labels still had her as a last year's 2018 member because I have the returned mail right here. Plus Conner Gregory Blake L 3247 came back. I sent out twice and no known address. So, he may have died. One son Austin Douglas Blake is still listed. (same address. That didn't come back 2018. L. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Mayflower Members ID ME # GS # Date Updated FIRST NAME MIDDLE NAME MAIDEN NAME LAST NAME Title Suffix ADDRESS CITY COUNTRY STATE ZIP CODE EMAIL PHONE DATE CHANGED SPOUSE DOB Ancestors MEMBER TYPE Historian APPROVED TRANS IN Activity CERT DROPPED REINSTATED DEATH RESIGNED TRANS OUT 341 3278 77534 TAMI RAE DOUGLAS BLAKE 1112 Roosevelt Trail Apt 16 Windam USA ME 04062- 207 749-2169 11/18 5/17/1905 Alden LIF 5/1/2007 Y No Tami Blake in the U.S., Cemetery and Funeral Home Collection, 1847-2018 Name: Tami Blake Gender: Female Death Age: 47 Birth Date: 28 Aug 1965 Birth Place: Prince Georges County, Maryland, USA Residence Place: Island View Drive, Minnesota, USA Death Date: 31 Dec 2012 Obituary Date: 30 Dec 2012 Source location: USA Spouse: *Gary Douglas Blake Children: Lexington Parents: Norman Leroy Gustafson Father: Oscar Phillips Siblings: Linda Gantt and husband, Kelvin, and Vicki Gustafson and Ricky, both of Lexington; Norman Gustafson and wife, Judy, and Ronald Gustafson and wife, Chris, both of Lexington 3297 Connor Bennett Blake 3298 Austin Douglas Blake 3299 Matthew Gregory Blake *all at 91 Wildwood Circle, Westbrook, ME I'm wondering if any of this family is still living, and/or, in the MF. If so they have not notified anyone of their mother's death and I think the father who may not be a member. Lynde

I don't know if anyone else here is as happy to learn this as I am, but Volume 24 of the Silver Books, the initial one for Elder William Brewster, is now available online in Plymouth if anyone is interested. Only four generations in it, but I presume that means the other three are out next, but no more pink pamphlets for those generations any more. ???? David E. Cann decann@infionline.net

Thanks so much! That makes sense. Patti Jobe -----Original Message----- From: Mike More Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:38 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Re: Mayflower books question According to Elizabeth Shown Mills' `Professional Genealogy': Say is conventionally used by genealogists when an estimate is extrapolated from less explicit evidence". In other words, this is used for dates which are estimated, based on rules of thumb such as generation length, average age at marriage, etc., as opposed to dates that are calculated from known events and ages. As such, there is no hard and fast application of a plus/minus figure - it depends on the specific circumstances. Mike More mikemore54@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Patti [mailto:rpwm82@fullnet.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:05 PM To: Mayflower List <MAYFLOWER@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower books question Have seen a couple times where a person’s listing is given thus: “Hannah, born say about 1660” Older and younger siblings are listed as ‘born about’. So what does the ‘say’ mean? If it means ‘about’, why didn’t they just use ‘about’ like the siblings? It’s not listed in any abbreviations appendices. Also, if you are a descendant of certain Mayflower passenger, are there any articles/books that give other passengers that you are ‘likely’ a descendant of, as well? Thanks! Patricia Bowerman Jobe Descendant of William Brewster (accepted), working on proving Cooke, Allerton, and Chilton lines. _______________________________________________ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/mayflower@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks so much! Patti -----Original Message----- From: Dale H. Cook Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:33 AM To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: [MFLR] Re: Mayflower books question At 12:04 PM 6/25/2018, Patti wrote: >"Hannah, born say about 1660" The use of "say" is an additional qualifier that conveys less certainty then a simple "about." The approximate birth years of other siblings might have been estimated from death records. The use of "say" for Hannah likely means that those types of records were not available for her, and that her birth year was estimated from the year of her marriage, from the birth of her first child, or even from the fact that she best fits into the birth order of her siblings by assuming that year for her birth. >Also, if you are a descendant of certain Mayflower passenger, are there any >articles/books that give other passengers that you are "likely" a >descendant of, as well? No. Many Mayflower descendants have only one Mayflower ancestor, while some have many. A highly experienced Mayflower researcher may recognize a cognate surname, but I know of no general resources for those. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS, AGS, MA Soc. of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

According to Elizabeth Shown Mills' `Professional Genealogy': Say is conventionally used by genealogists when an estimate is extrapolated from less explicit evidence". In other words, this is used for dates which are estimated, based on rules of thumb such as generation length, average age at marriage, etc., as opposed to dates that are calculated from known events and ages. As such, there is no hard and fast application of a plus/minus figure - it depends on the specific circumstances. Mike More mikemore54@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Patti [mailto:rpwm82@fullnet.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:05 PM To: Mayflower List <MAYFLOWER@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower books question Have seen a couple times where a person’s listing is given thus: “Hannah, born say about 1660” Older and younger siblings are listed as ‘born about’. So what does the ‘say’ mean? If it means ‘about’, why didn’t they just use ‘about’ like the siblings? It’s not listed in any abbreviations appendices. Also, if you are a descendant of certain Mayflower passenger, are there any articles/books that give other passengers that you are ‘likely’ a descendant of, as well? Thanks! Patricia Bowerman Jobe Descendant of William Brewster (accepted), working on proving Cooke, Allerton, and Chilton lines. _______________________________________________ Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/mayflower@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/mayflower@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 12:04 PM 6/25/2018, Patti wrote: >"Hannah, born say about 1660" The use of "say" is an additional qualifier that conveys less certainty then a simple "about." The approximate birth years of other siblings might have been estimated from death records. The use of "say" for Hannah likely means that those types of records were not available for her, and that her birth year was estimated from the year of her marriage, from the birth of her first child, or even from the fact that she best fits into the birth order of her siblings by assuming that year for her birth. >Also, if you are a descendant of certain Mayflower passenger, are there any articles/books that give other passengers that you are "likely" a descendant of, as well? No. Many Mayflower descendants have only one Mayflower ancestor, while some have many. A highly experienced Mayflower researcher may recognize a cognate surname, but I know of no general resources for those. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS, AGS, MA Soc. of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Have seen a couple times where a person’s listing is given thus: “Hannah, born say about 1660” Older and younger siblings are listed as ‘born about’. So what does the ‘say’ mean? If it means ‘about’, why didn’t they just use ‘about’ like the siblings? It’s not listed in any abbreviations appendices. Also, if you are a descendant of certain Mayflower passenger, are there any articles/books that give other passengers that you are ‘likely’ a descendant of, as well? Thanks! Patricia Bowerman Jobe Descendant of William Brewster (accepted), working on proving Cooke, Allerton, and Chilton lines.

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Dear Glennon: Digital is fine for those folks who like to wade through pages and pages of scanned pages and can keep a page up while they go search something else. I'm thinking of books like the "tan series" known as the VRs of Massachusetts where in one book, or sometimes two or three, it covers, birth, marriage and death and trying to find families in each of the sections, for me at least, is rather tedious when you want to keep your finger in the births for a family surname, then going forward or backward if there is a different spelling, then moving on to see if they married, or died in that town. Generally I would end up having to open more than one tab just to review a book, even the silver books when you are going from generation to generation. Physical books are much easier to do this by slipping a bookmark into a page, then going to the next, repeat, the next, repeat till you get through the five generations. In addition, finding the correct page is tedious when, say you are looking for John Howland's kids, you have to wade through a bunch of pages, or take a wild guess to find where generation 2 begins, etc. With a book, grab the book, grab the pages and flip the pages till you find the generation sought, open book and lay flat. No so with digital, at least in my experience it isn't so. I am digitally challenged! Books are my bag, but I certainly don't haul them around when traveling! I do the research at home, at a library that has the volumes and them am prepared when going on a trip. Or take something else with me -- like photocopies of the various pages. My preference. Then a question also comes to mind once these various volumes have been digitized, what happens when the book is updated and a revision is made. Currently, you do something else with the old volumes, update your set with the new as the old volume is outdated and the Society tends to not accept the old version if some new information is there about your family. The question is whether or not NEHGS is going to redo there database and put in the updated volume if the Society updates the volume with revised information? Or is this a one-time deal? Updates won't be made if the volume is updated. If they won't update, then whatever NEHGS has will be eventually outdated information. For me, buying the new book is a whole lot easier and makes for faster research. My opinion, naturally. But the question still stands about updated editions and getting them digitized and the old edition removed from NEHGS database. Christie Trapp Re: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:34:29 -0400 From: Glennon Harrison <glennon.harrison@gmail.com> To: mayflower@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MFLR] Ebooks If you can wait a bit, this may be a solution: >From the Mayflower Society website: New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) and General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD) Announce Collaboration NEHGS to Digitize the Fifth Generation of Mayflower Descendants from GSMD ?Silver Books? and 50 Years of Mayflower Quarterly Mayflower Databases to Be Searchable on AmericanAncestors.org GSMD Members to Enjoy Discounts on Membership in New England Historic Genealogical Society July 13, 2017?Boston, Massachusetts?New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) has partnered with General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD) to bring invaluable genealogical resources to their members. New searchable databases?to be found on AmericanAncestors.org?will be created from authenticated Mayflower Pilgrim genealogies and from 50 years of published Mayflower passenger scholarship from the Mayflower Quarterly as the program advances. In addition, GSMD members will enjoy generous discounts on new memberships in NEHGS, the founding genealogical organization in America. Known as the ?Silver Books? because of their distinctive covers, the Mayflower Families Through Five Generations series from the GSMD meticulously documents the first five generations of descendants of Mayflower passengers who arrived in 1620. This essential resource for studying family relationships resulting from the 25 families of the Mayflower who were known to have American descendants, has previously been accessible only in print format in publications produced by GSMD and available through the Bookstore at NEHGS. As a result of this new partnership, the fifth generation portion of these will be available online on AmericanAncestors.org for use in family history research by members of both organizations. Brenton Simons, NEHGS President and CEO, made the announcement of the collaboration together with Lea Sinclair Filson, GSMD Governor General. At a signing ceremony to commemorate the historic partnership at the Massachusetts State House in Boston, Simons stated ?We?re pleased to announce that NEHGS is partnering with GSMD to bring the fifth generation data online. We estimate that the project will include 7,750 fifth generation descendants, along with spouses and children, and approximately 150,000 birth, marriage, death, and deed records. Under the supervision of our Web team, the material will be digitized and made name searchable on AmericanAncestors.org by members of NEHGS and GSMD.? GSMD Governor General Lea Sinclair Filson added, ?This partnership with NEHGS will contribute enormously to the availability of our publications to family historians around the world. It will greatly facilitate genealogical research and help preserve GSMD?s history and diligence in spreading the Mayflower Pilgrim story.? The ?Silver Books? series is comprised of 31 volumes, of which the fifth generation of each will be brought online as a database as the digitization is completed. Fifty passengers on the Mayflower are known to have living descendants, however, the ?Silver Books? treat the twenty-five families that left American descendants. NEHGS? Senior Genealogist of the Newbury Street Press and Mayflower Descendant Editor Christopher C. Child noted ?When working with people on possible Mayflower ancestry, I am often searching through several volumes of the ?Silver Books? to check their validity. Having the most recent documented generation online and searchable will greatly aid people seeking to verify this part of their Mayflower lineage.? PARTNERSHIP TO INCLUDE DIGITAL INDEXING OF MAYFLOWER QUARTERLY As an important additional element of the historic partnership between the two organizations, NEHGS will also undertake indexing of content published in the first fifty years of the Mayflower Quarterly ? A Journal of Pilgrim History and Genealogy in Colonial New England. GSMD published this predecessor to the current Mayflower Journal from 1935 through 2015. Fifty volumes of the Quarterly, those issues published between 1935 and 1984 are to be indexed by article title and by the names included in them. They will be made available as page images on AmericanAncestors.org. Updates concerning availability of these new databases to be offered exclusively by NEHGS may be found in announcements in the weekly e-newsletter of NEHGS, The Weekly Genealogist, or by registering at dbnews.AmericanAncestors.org. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Elizabeth Ristau <elizschlecht@gmail.com> wrote: > Regarding the recent discussion of the Silver Books and Pink Books, is > there any discussion of making these available digitally? We travel much > of the year and I'd would prefer not to try and carry heavy books. > > Betty > > On Feb 24, 2017 2:01 AM, <mayflower-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Send MAYFLOWER mailing list submissions to > mayflower@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/mayflower > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mayflower-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mayflower-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MAYFLOWER digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mayflower "silver books" (Christie Trapp) > 2. Re: Mayflower "silver books" (Linda Chesson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:15:45 -0500 > From: Christie Trapp <christietrapp@aol.com> > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower "silver books" > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:48:53 -08Even00 > From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> > Linda asked a question about the Mayflower volumes for the various > passengers. This is the link to the website for the books: > > https://www.themayflowersociety.org/shop/books-publications/silver- > books-and-mfip > > Many of the volumes starting with volume 4 to 24 have been revised, > updated, whatever over the course of several years. > > Volumes 1-3 are no longer available for sale and are no longer valid for > tracing those passengers since newer volumes with a new number being > assigned with that passengers name has been republished. > > Yes, the price has gone up. I have all the volumes except the last two > that were recently published and in looking at the website and comparing my > current volumes to the list, I will have be buy new volumes to replace the > ones I bought several years ago since new editions have been published. > > One note, Ms White who did 4 volumes on John Howland's family and published > under Picton Press are now no longer being published since Picton Press is > going out or went out of business. One, if not two of the volumes are no > longer available for sale. So if you are a Howland, check out availability > for those volumes and buy now. > > The Society also published several volumes on John Howland under the > "silver" cover as well. Those are still for sale. > > Even some of the "pink" volumes - the Mayflower in Progress -- books have > been revised or new volumes added to the set. > > While many of the volumes have been updated/revised, these changes may or > may not significantly change lineages already accepted by the Society. > Therefore, if a member joined using the lineages previously published, they > will remain a member. > > However, if new information has been discovered since the initial > publication and their joining the Society and a new volume is later > published and makes such changes as saying that what was originally known > about a family structure and the Society now deems that line to be invalid, > no new member may join on the line they closed. > > Hope this answers your question, Linda. > > Christie Trapp

Does anyone know if the General Society of Mayflower Descendants is planning anything special. My wife and I are thinking of going to England and the Netherlands for any events they are planning. We need to start planning now as we are both retired and we need to set aside the money now in small steps. Bob Trapp Deputy Governor California Alameda Colony

Hello, Michael Sowle passed away on May 15th, 2017. His personal affairs are being handled by his daughter, Andrea Kern. She can be reached at: andreasowle@gmail.com. Please remove this email address from your contacts. Thank you.

If you can wait a bit, this may be a solution: >From the Mayflower Society website: New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) and General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD) Announce Collaboration NEHGS to Digitize the Fifth Generation of Mayflower Descendants from GSMD “Silver Books” and 50 Years of Mayflower Quarterly Mayflower Databases to Be Searchable on AmericanAncestors.org GSMD Members to Enjoy Discounts on Membership in New England Historic Genealogical Society July 13, 2017—Boston, Massachusetts—New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) has partnered with General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD) to bring invaluable genealogical resources to their members. New searchable databases—to be found on AmericanAncestors.org—will be created from authenticated Mayflower Pilgrim genealogies and from 50 years of published Mayflower passenger scholarship from the Mayflower Quarterly as the program advances. In addition, GSMD members will enjoy generous discounts on new memberships in NEHGS, the founding genealogical organization in America. Known as the “Silver Books” because of their distinctive covers, the Mayflower Families Through Five Generations series from the GSMD meticulously documents the first five generations of descendants of Mayflower passengers who arrived in 1620. This essential resource for studying family relationships resulting from the 25 families of the Mayflower who were known to have American descendants, has previously been accessible only in print format in publications produced by GSMD and available through the Bookstore at NEHGS. As a result of this new partnership, the fifth generation portion of these will be available online on AmericanAncestors.org for use in family history research by members of both organizations. Brenton Simons, NEHGS President and CEO, made the announcement of the collaboration together with Lea Sinclair Filson, GSMD Governor General. At a signing ceremony to commemorate the historic partnership at the Massachusetts State House in Boston, Simons stated “We’re pleased to announce that NEHGS is partnering with GSMD to bring the fifth generation data online. We estimate that the project will include 7,750 fifth generation descendants, along with spouses and children, and approximately 150,000 birth, marriage, death, and deed records. Under the supervision of our Web team, the material will be digitized and made name searchable on AmericanAncestors.org by members of NEHGS and GSMD.” GSMD Governor General Lea Sinclair Filson added, “This partnership with NEHGS will contribute enormously to the availability of our publications to family historians around the world. It will greatly facilitate genealogical research and help preserve GSMD’s history and diligence in spreading the Mayflower Pilgrim story.” The “Silver Books” series is comprised of 31 volumes, of which the fifth generation of each will be brought online as a database as the digitization is completed. Fifty passengers on the Mayflower are known to have living descendants, however, the “Silver Books” treat the twenty-five families that left American descendants. NEHGS’ Senior Genealogist of the Newbury Street Press and Mayflower Descendant Editor Christopher C. Child noted “When working with people on possible Mayflower ancestry, I am often searching through several volumes of the “Silver Books” to check their validity. Having the most recent documented generation online and searchable will greatly aid people seeking to verify this part of their Mayflower lineage.” PARTNERSHIP TO INCLUDE DIGITAL INDEXING OF MAYFLOWER QUARTERLY As an important additional element of the historic partnership between the two organizations, NEHGS will also undertake indexing of content published in the first fifty years of the Mayflower Quarterly — A Journal of Pilgrim History and Genealogy in Colonial New England. GSMD published this predecessor to the current Mayflower Journal from 1935 through 2015. Fifty volumes of the Quarterly, those issues published between 1935 and 1984 are to be indexed by article title and by the names included in them. They will be made available as page images on AmericanAncestors.org. Updates concerning availability of these new databases to be offered exclusively by NEHGS may be found in announcements in the weekly e-newsletter of NEHGS, The Weekly Genealogist, or by registering at dbnews.AmericanAncestors.org. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Elizabeth Ristau <elizschlecht@gmail.com> wrote: > Regarding the recent discussion of the Silver Books and Pink Books, is > there any discussion of making these available digitally? We travel much > of the year and I'd would prefer not to try and carry heavy books. > > Betty > > On Feb 24, 2017 2:01 AM, <mayflower-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Send MAYFLOWER mailing list submissions to > mayflower@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/mayflower > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mayflower-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mayflower-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MAYFLOWER digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mayflower "silver books" (Christie Trapp) > 2. Re: Mayflower "silver books" (Linda Chesson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:15:45 -0500 > From: Christie Trapp <christietrapp@aol.com> > To: mayflower@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MFLR] Mayflower "silver books" > Message-ID: <15a6aaf1c2d-528a-5b5f@webstg-m09.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:48:53 -08Even00 > From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> > Linda asked a question about the Mayflower volumes for the various > passengers. This is the link to the website for the books: > > > https://www.themayflowersociety.org/shop/books-publications/silver- > books-and-mfip > > > Many of the volumes starting with volume 4 to 24 have been revised, > updated, whatever over the course of several years. > > > Volumes 1-3 are no longer available for sale and are no longer valid for > tracing those passengers since newer volumes with a new number being > assigned with that passengers name has been republished. > > > Yes, the price has gone up. I have all the volumes except the last two > that were recently published and in looking at the website and comparing my > current volumes to the list, I will have be buy new volumes to replace the > ones I bought several years ago since new editions have been published. > > > > One note, Ms White who did 4 volumes on John Howland's family and published > under Picton Press are now no longer being published since Picton Press is > going out or went out of business. One, if not two of the volumes are no > longer available for sale. So if you are a Howland, check out availability > for those volumes and buy now. > > > The Society also published several volumes on John Howland under the > "silver" cover as well. Those are still for sale. > > > Even some of the "pink" volumes - the Mayflower in Progress -- books have > been revised or new volumes added to the set. > > > While many of the volumes have been updated/revised, these changes may or > may not significantly change lineages already accepted by the Society. > Therefore, if a member joined using the lineages previously published, they > will remain a member. > > > However, if new information has been discovered since the initial > publication and their joining the Society and a new volume is later > published and makes such changes as saying that what was originally known > about a family structure and the Society now deems that line to be invalid, > no new member may join on the line they closed. > > > Hope this answers your question, Linda. > > > Christie Trapp > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:24:44 -0800 > From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> > To: <mayflower@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MFLR] Mayflower "silver books" > Message-ID: <162E2A0C-2C25-47BC-A333-9D4DB0B37791@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Christie, > > Thanks for the info on the Silver Books. That, along with what Craig Rich > sent me tells me that I need an entirely new set of Silver Books. > > > > On Feb 23, 2017, at 3:15 AM, Christie Trapp <christietrapp@aol.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:48:53 -08Even00 > > From: Linda Chesson <chwarwick@charter.net> > > > Linda asked a question about the Mayflower volumes for the various > passengers. This is the link to the website for the books: > > > > > > https://www.themayflowersociety.org/shop/books-publications/silver- > books-and-mfip > > > > > > Many of the volumes starting with volume 4 to 24 have been revised, > updated, whatever over the course of several years. > > > > > Is there anywhere that tells what Volumes are the updates for Volumes > 4-24? [Or do they have the same Volume # but with a newer publication > date???] > > > Volumes 1-3 are no longer available for sale and are no longer valid for > tracing those passengers since newer volumes with a new number being > assigned with that passengers name has been republished. > > Do you know what Vol numbers Volumes 1-3 have been replaced with? > > > > > > Yes, the price has gone up. I have all the volumes except the last two > that were recently published and in looking at the website and comparing my > current volumes to the list, I will have be buy new volumes to replace the > ones I bought several years ago since new editions have been published. > > > > What should we do with the old Volumes which are out of date? > > > > > > One note, Ms White who did 4 volumes on John Howland's family and > published under Picton Press are now no longer being published since Picton > Press is going out or went out of business. One, if not two of the volumes > are no longer available for sale. So if you are a Howland, check out > availability for those volumes and buy now. > > I *do* however have all 4 Volumes of Howland by Elizabeth Pearson White. > And since I know that she has passed away, hopefully I am good there. I had > waited for her Volume on Hope for years and it finally was printed. > > > > The Society also published several volumes on John Howland under the > "silver" cover as well. Those are still for sale. > > It seems I only have Volume 23 John Howland in my set ???? > > > > > > Even some of the "pink" volumes - the Mayflower in Progress -- books have > been revised or new volumes added to the set. > > > > > > While many of the volumes have been updated/revised, these changes may or > may not significantly change lineages already accepted by the Society. > Therefore, if a member joined using the lineages previously published, they > will remain a member. > > > > > > However, if new information has been discovered since the initial > publication and their joining the Society and a new volume is later > published and makes such changes as saying that what was originally known > about a family structure and the Society now deems that line to be invalid, > no new member may join on the line they closed. > > > > > > Hope this answers your question, Linda. > > Thanks again, Christie. > > Linda > > > > > > Christie Trapp > > > > > > > > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the MAYFLOWER list administrator, send an email to > MAYFLOWER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MAYFLOWER mailing list, send an email to > MAYFLOWER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of MAYFLOWER Digest, Vol 12, Issue 3 > **************************************** > Frequently-asked questions may often be answered by visiting the FAQ page > for this list at: http://www.craigrich.net/mayfaq.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAYFLOWER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Am trying to prove or disprove a Chaffin connection to this family, but have not found any documentation either way. Some cousins of mine have listed a Christopher Chaffin as a child of John Chipman and Mary Skiff.  John Chipman being the grandson of John Howland.I have found no documentation of any type, yet a few cousins have had DNA matches with descendants of the Howland line with our Chaffin line the only possible connection.Is there a detailed ancestry of the Chipman line anywhere that I may not have looked, other than the Mayflower books, pink, silver, etc. that I dont have access to? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

I'm one for books rather than digitizing. Here's why. 1. When researching a line, it is easier in a book to flip pages to follow the family numbers. You don't have to guess where the family numbers continue. 2. Digital book search takes longer to do. You have to flip back, forth, guess what page your folks are on. 3. You can't put your fingers into the pages to hold your spot so you can look back and forth. Once you move on digitally, there is no going back and forth quickly. Of course, for those who are not digitally challenged like I am, you can make it work quickly for you. Just not me!! Back to #1 above -- this is applicable to the silver books or genealogies, but when it comes to the MA VR (tan series), you have 3 sections to the books and within those 3 sections it is alphabetical. Trying to find say the surname Palmer in births, then marriages and then deaths, you probably need to bounce back and forth as you look for all members in the Palmer family. Sometimes there are 2 volumes to the VRs. Trying to find out where in each volume the Palmers are located takes time digitally because you have to search for it; whereas, in books, you flip the pages, put a piece of paper in the spot in each section and you are good to go. Okay, for those who travel with these books, digital is okay, but how to you read the books on a cell phone? The screen is so iddy-bitty??? As you can tell, I don't have one, so am clueless. Just sayin.......