Don, Thanks for posting "this DNA stuff," I find the 25/25 results very exciting, if not proof positive of the exact relationship between Henry and Nathaniel. I appreciate your occasional posts on this subject and am astonished others do not. Really, lighten up folks. This is the 21st century, after all. Josette, Thanks for the update on Esther Carson's "proven" father, would you care to share other substantive information on her and that Carson line? What documentation was used to establish Patrick as her father? Have you noted any progress in Nathaniel's parentage? I'd appreciate anything more you have on these lines and apologize if the info is now common knowledge, I've not been able to devote much time to gen activities. Also, can you explain what you mean by, "... seven generations doesn't equate before 1800."? I count 6 generations from me back to Nathaniel. Thanks again to both of you for your fine work. Nathan Osborn Maxwell Baily http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~baily/ Nathaniel>>William>>Nathaniel Carson>>Albert>>Nathaniel Chester>>Sara Maxwell>>me