Ray; I too am a Maxwell descendant with no male ancestors in between. I am interested in this DNA search but I would have to try the female DNA. My Maxwell ancestor was Susannah Maxwell b 4 Feb 1787 either in NJ or PA. She married John Elliott in Franklin co PA she had son Maxwell Elliott b 15 Jan 1821 in Welsh Run Franklin co PA. I think, not know her father or grandfather was captain Willian Maxwell of NJ. Do you have any connections? Earl H Taylor (909) 593 2652 eht2060@keyway.net http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060 Yahoo IM eht2060 -----Original Message----- From: Ray W. Justus [mailto:rwjustus@cox.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:13 PM To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Genealogy and DNA Research (Without Word Wrap) If you only want the meat, skip to below my signature. I have stayed on the sidelines the past couple of weeks watching the discourse between the Pro and Con factions regarding the compatibility of genealogy and DNA research. For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would object to using modern research techniques to either support or challenge possible relationships between different lineages. I have been doing my own research since 1974. I have scanned through countless pieces of microfiche and rolls of microfilm, written letters to county courts and local offices of vital statistics and driven hundreds of miles to pour over large tomes at major libraries. Today I surf the Internet. I frequent many of the much maligned sites sponsored by the LDS, Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com. I subscribe to more than thirty RootsWeb mailing lists. I utilize e-mail to the fullest extent, asking as many questions of others as they ask of me. I consider all of these are additional tools for me. I have not discontinued my old methods. I take that back. Today I only look at census records on microfilm as a last resort. The quality of the images available online and the ability to zoom in on them have given my eyes great relief! I am not ashamed. Additionally, I still follow the Golden Rule of Genealogy => Verify! Verify! Verify! I have corresponded and collaborated actively with Don Maxwell for at least five years. I assure you he is not in this (Genealogy or DNA Research) for the money. Don is a dedicated genealogy fanatic in the truest sense of the word. He and I are both at a brick wall on our Maxwell lines. Our common migration patterns cause us to suspect we are of the same line. Unfortunately, I am not a direct male descendant. Regardless, someday we will know if our suspicions are correct. I believe the modern methods will help us reach this goal. Enough soap box! Ray Justus Chandler, AZ Below are my four oldest Maxwell generations. I have many more details than are shown here. If any of you believe you have a possible link, addition or correction, please contact me. Descendants of Thomas Maxwell 1 Thomas Maxwell b: in Dumfriesshire, Scotland .. +Hamilton . 2 Thomas Maxwell b: Abt. January 2, 1767 in Trenton, Hunterdon County, New Jersey d: October 5, 1820 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... +Rachel Chambers b: in New Jersey NOTE: The first five children listed with this couple have asterisks after their given names. That is because I am still researching the connections and do not have definite proof that there are connections. It is easier for me to carry them as their children while I continue the research. I do know that Thomas and Rachel did have twelve children. Several pieces of information suggest strongly that the first five children are closely related to Thomas and Rachel if they are not actually their children. ... 3 David* Maxwell b: Abt. 1792 in New Jersey ....... +Elizabeth McCashon m: March 24, 1814 in Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1817 in Ohio ..... 4 William Maxwell b: Abt. 1821 in Ohio ..... 4 David K. Maxwell b: Abt. 1823 in Ohio ..... 4 Fletcher E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1832 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ... 3 Rachel* Maxwell b: January 14, 1796 d: May 10, 1859 ....... +Daniel Small b: March 13, 1788 m: February 8, 1816 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: September 14, 1823 ..... 4 Andrew Small d: May 22, 1860 ..... 4 Margaret Small b: 1817 ......... +William Schenk b: 1812 ... 3 Sarah* Maxwell ....... +John Vinder m: November 24, 1823 in Montgomery County, Ohio ... 3 Thomas* Maxwell b: May 29, 1800 in Monmouth County, New Jersey d: 1881 in Miami County, Ohio .... *1st Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Susannah John aka: Susanna Jones m: February 4, 1824 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: 1839 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Stephen S. Maxwell aka: Stephen J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1825 in Ohio d: Bef. 1900 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Jane L. Stewart m: 1851 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Martha A. Maxwell d: Bef. 1880 ......... +William Duncan aka: William Dunkin m: 1846 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Rachel Maxwell aka: Rachael Maxwell ..... *1st Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +Jonathan or T. Rowlands aka: Con Rollins Jr. m: 1849 in Miami County, Ohio ..... *2nd Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +J. C. Winans m: Aft. 1849 ..... 4 Spafford Woodhull Maxwell b: October 20, 1836 in Franklin, Warren County, Ohio d: June 10, 1911 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Rachel A. Devol aka: Rachael A. Devol b: April 23, 1842 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio m: January 8, 1868 in Miami County, Ohio d: August 27, 1913 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio .... *2nd Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Anna McCurdy aka: Annie Martin b: Abt. 1797 in Pennsylvania m: Aft. 1839 d: 1872 ... 3 John B.* Maxwell aka: John Warren* Maxwell b: Bet. 1801 - 1802 in New Jersey ... *1st Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Sarah Conover m: January 8, 1824 in Warren County, Ohio ..... 4 Daniel Maxwell b: Bet. 1825 - 1826 in Ohio ......... +Elizabeth Kennison b: Abt. 1826 in Ohio ..... 4 Thomas Vern Maxwell b: August 1826 in Ohio d: March 2, 1919 in Story County, Iowa ......... +Nancy Lucinda Barrett b: May 1835 in Maryland, Ohio or Kentucky m: Abt. 1855 d: 1915 ... *2nd Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Elizabeth Small b: Bet. 1802 - 1803 in Ohio m: December 19, 1826 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Samuel Maxwell b: Bet. 1830 - 1831 in Ohio ..... 4 Andrew Maxwell b: Bet. 1832 - 1834 in Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 David Maxwell b: Bet. 1838 - 1839 in Ohio ..... 4 Peter Maxwell b: Abt. 1840 in Ohio ..... 4 Margaret E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1842 in Ohio ..... 4 George Maxwell b: Abt. 1844 in Ohio ... 3 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: July 10, 1809 in Warren County, Ohio d: March 8, 1886 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ....... +Eleanor Denise b: July 22, 1811 in a log cabin built on the west side of the Great Miami River two miles north of Franklin, Warren County, Ohio m: November 18, 1830 d: July 20, 1898 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Sidney Denise Maxwell b: December 23, 1831 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: November 28, 1913 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ......... +Isabella Neff b: April 15, 1854 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio m: June 30, 1875 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Anna Catherine Maxwell b: December 14, 1834 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: April 4, 1890 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ......... +William Hill Lamme b: July 26, 1826 in near Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio m: December 23, 1851 d: April 20, 1889 in Xenia, Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 Abigail Rosamond Maxwell b: January 8, 1838 in Ohio d: March 5, 1930 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Marcellus Jennings Maxwell b: May 25, 1841 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: March 29, 1916 in Urbana, Champaign County, Ohio ......... +Lucie Richards m: Bef. May 17, 1871 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Margaret Eleanor Maxwell b: 1844 in Ohio d: November 16, 1928 in Oxford, Butler County, Ohio ......... +John Mortimer Adams b: 1843 m: 1876 in Lebanon, Monroe County, Ohio d: 1925 ... 3 Phebe Maxwell b: Bet. 1811 - 1812 in Ohio ....... +Robert Gay b: Bet. 1798 - 1804 in Virginia or Ohio m: January 24, 1833 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 George M. Gay b: Bet. 1834 - 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 Hannah Gay b: Abt. 1836 in Ohio ..... 4 Sarah E. Gay b: Abt. 1838 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael Gay b: Abt. 1843 in Ohio ..... 4 Henry O. Gay b: Bet. 1844 - 1846 in Ohio ..... 4 David P. Gay aka: David M. Gay b: Abt. 1849 in Indiana ... 3 George McCann Maxwell b: January 4, 1814 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 2, 1889 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ... *1st Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Amelia Winebrenner b: September 22, 1814 in Hagerstown, Washington County, Maryland m: July 25, 1832 in Miamisburg, Montgomery, Ohio d: July 12, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Joseph Warren Maxwell b: April 2, 1834 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: May 1, 1908 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa ......... +Marietta Pifer aka: Marietta (Ettie) Pifer b: June 1839 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana m: 1857 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: Abt. 1907 ..... 4 Christian Maxwell b: December 26, 1835 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 26, 1836 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Elizabeth Maxwell b: July 2, 1837 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: October 15, 1839 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ..... 4 Charles B. Maxwell b: October 4, 1838 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: June 12, 1880 in Clyde, Jasper County, Iowa ......... +Hattie Elizabeth Higley aka: Harriet Elizabeth Higley b: July 11, 1846 in Hiram, Portage County, Ohio m: October 25, 1868 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Mary Maxwell b: September 29, 1841 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ......... +Frank M. Baldwin b: November 1829 in New York m: October 30, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 David Maxwell b: February 4, 1844 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: July 20, 1845 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Huston Taylor Maxwell b: August 10, 1847 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 11, 1848 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Phebe Maxwell aka: Rhoda Maxwell b: Abt. 1849 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: April 1, 1871 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sina Maxwell b: February 10, 1852 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 20, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ......... +John W. Will b: Bet. 1844 - 1845 in West Virginia m: April 27, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Franklin B. Maxwell b: July 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: July 18, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ... *2nd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Caroline E. Ingersoll b: Bet. 1831 - 1833 in Pennsylvania m: November 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: June 20, 1867 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sidney Ingersoll Maxwell b: September 11, 1861 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: February 20, 1916 in Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri ......... +Lizzie Ann Hall b: August 15, 1862 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa m: December 24, 1882 in Tyner, Polk County, Iowa d: May 10, 1955 in La Junta, Otero County, Colorado ..... 4 Henry Ingersoll Maxwell aka: Harry Maxwell b: June 24, 1863 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: Abt. September 15, 1930 in La Junta or Rocky Ford, Otero County, Colorado ......... +Clara Gillett b: Bet. 1862 - 1863 in Illinois m: March 1883 in Keokuk County, Iowa d: April 13, 1913 in Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona ..... 4 George Chambers Maxwell b: July 3, 1865 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 William W. Maxwell b: February 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa d: October 3, 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa ... *3rd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Angeline Sweet b: September 18, 1842 in Lone Tree, Johnson County, Iowa m: April 5, 1867 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 9, 1906 in Aurora, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Addie Sweet Maxwell aka: Adeline M. Peterson b: December 20, 1869 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Martin O. Peterson b: Abt. 1865 in Minnesota m: June 24, 1891 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Fannie Sweet Maxwell b: February 8, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 25, 1957 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ......... +Samuel Sheldon Carman b: March 24, 1873 in Spring Creek Precinct, Johnson County, Nebraska m: March 24, 1897 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 31, 1962 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Grace Sweet Maxwell b: December 29, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: December 8, 1875 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Caleb Sweet Maxwell aka: Cale Maxwell b: August 20, 1874 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: June 1967 in Bentonville, Benton County, Arkansas ......... +Lucy Ethel (Effie) Bundy b: July 19, 1879 in Iowa m: January 1, 1902 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 1973 in Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas ..... 4 Ole Hill Maxwell b: March 14, 1878 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: Bef. February 19, 1942 in Denver, Denver County, Colorado ......... +Olive Murray b: Abt. 1880 in Colorado m: 1903 ..... 4 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: May 2, 1880 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Marietta S. Maxwell b: April 11, 1882 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Frank E. Scott m: August 31, 1900 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 John A. Logan Maxwell b: December 30, 1884 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico ......... +Mary L. b: Abt. 1885 in Muscotah, Atchison County, Kansas m: August 18, 1909 in Santa Rosa, Guadalupe County, New Mexico d: September 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico

Josette: To date, we have never discovered where our Sidney Maxwell came from. He married Catherine Elsberry in Surry County, NC., and then headed to what is now Ashe County. There have been stories but nothing we have been able to document or confirm. Marylou Maxwell

----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Maxwell To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Subject: Here you go, My four oldest generations' Samuel Maxwell B:23 July 1781, D:22 May 1848 B: VA, D: Tn +Martha Patton B:11 Sept. 1780, D:15 june 1848 B: VA, D:Tn David Wood Maxwell, B:5 June 1822, D: 24 Aug. 1869, Tn, Tn +Mary Elizabeth Shanks B:13 Feb. 1826 D:9 May 1888, Va, Tn William Cullom Maxwell, B:30 Dec. 1854 D:12 Apr.1922 Tn Tn +Julia Ann Virginia Gentry, B:23 Mar. D:24 Dec. 1920 Tn Tn. William Robert Maxwell, B:29 Oct. 1885, D:5 Sept. 1965 Tn Tn +Phoebe Kansas Neill, B:3 Mar. 1888, D:28 July 1965, Tn Tn Can anyone connect? Thanks Harry L. Maxwell ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here

Been going through records to which I have access to try and identify Maxwell adults living in PA before 1750. Here's what I have so far: 1712 John Maxwell Acquired 200 acres in Chester Ct. 1715 John Maxell (most probably Maxwell) died 1715 noting that there were brothers (unnamed), sister Jane and a mother. This, most likely, is the same John Maxwell who acquired land 1712 given that the will is Chester Ct. Notes he has minor son John Maxwell 1725 8thm 28 New Garden Monthly meeting. Thomas Jobe, son of Andrew and Elizabeth Maxwell at Nottingham 1726 Elish Maxwell a witness to will of James Lindsay Londonogrove Twp Chester Ct. 1748 William Maxwell Exec. will of Andrew McCleary Lancaster Ct. 1748 John Maxwell Exec will of James McGrow (McGrew) Huntington TWp Lancaster but actually York (created 1749) 1735 William Maxwell Paxtang listed as churcn member, land record 1737 1738 William Maxwell b. Northern Ireland came to US about 1738, settled Peters Twp Cumberland Ct with wife Susannah. (Egle's Notes and Querries). CDR: Patrick James (b. in Ireland) Mary m. WIlliam McDowell Catherine m. Nathan McDowell ? female m. George Brown Ruth m. WIlliam Reynolds 1744 Agness Maxwell listed as wife of Richard Parkeson in his will proved Oct 2, 1744 Lancaster 1743 May 28 William Maxwell m. Gertrude Enoch (Enochs) 1746 Dec 22 Mary Maxwell m. Nathaniel Beany Anyone have access to early tax records or any other documents/ records to add to this list??? Josette Maxwell Boone NC

Dear list, Listed below are some of the other Joseph Maxwell's that I have found in the some of the other Kentucky census. Seems like I have seen some posting here on this Maxwell list listing some Kentucky connection. So, I thought this may help someone. As we can see Hamilton Maxwell came from the MD area and his wife came from the VA area, and was in the Ohio Co. Ky.area in 1880. At the present time I am searching the VA, and MD area for Hamilton Maxwell b. about 1815.. MAXWELL, Joseph Son <1845> M W Bir: KY Cen: KY Boyle District 3 MAXWELL, Joseph A. Son <1857> M W Bir: KY Cen: KY Caldwell Fredonia MAXWELL, Joseph Son <1870> M W Bir: KY Cen: KY Jefferson Co. Louisville MAXWELL, Joe Son <1875> M B Bir: KY Cen: KY Marion Lebanon Thanks for all of your help that you e-mailed me at ldale@lightbound.com on these.1880 Ohio Co. Kentucky census.It sure has been a big help to me in my research. 226-229 MAXWELL, HAMILTON W M 65 HEAD M FARMER KY SCOTLAND MD. MAXWELL, EMILINE W F 62 WIFE M KEEPINGHOUSE KY VA VA MAXWELL, JOHN M. W M 23 SON M KY KY KY MAXWELL, ELIZABETH M. W F 2? DAU- IN-LAW M KY KY KY MAXWELL, ELIZA A. W F 19 DAU-IN-LAW M KY KY KY MAXWELL, MALINDA W F 4 GDAU S KY KY KY 227-230 MAXWELL, JOSEPH F. W M 32 HEAD M FARMER KY KY KY MAXWELL, REBECCA S. (Grant) W F 22 WIFE M KEEPINGHOUSE KY KY KY MAXWELL, WILLIAM ABERT W M 5 SON S KY KY KY MAXWELL, OLLIE W F 2 DAU S KY KY KY 228-231 GRANT, JOHN LEE W M 56 HEAD M FARMER KY VA VA GRANT, LUCY ANN (STALLINGS) W F 53 WIFE M KEEPINGHOUSE KY KY KY GRANT, WILLIAM A. W M 28 SON S KY KY KY GRANT, JOSEPH LEE W M 9 GSON S KY KY KY GRANT, IDA E.. W F 5 GDAU S KY KY KY GRANT, CATHRIN W F 3 GDAU S KY KY KY GRANT, ALFRED W M 17 SON S KY KY KY 229-232 HARDER, WILLIAM W M 28 HEAD M FARMER TN KY KY. HARDER, MARY JANE W F 31 WIFE M KEEPINGHOUSE KY KY KY HARDER, JOHN H. W M 2 SON S KY TN KY CURVY, MARGARET W F 59 MOTHER IN LAW W KY VA VA PAGE 26 SUP DIST 1 ENUM DIST 186 230-233 PORTER, FRANCIS M. W M 32 HEAD M FARMER KY VA VA PORTER, MARY E. W F 29 WIFE M KEEPINGHOUSE KY KY KY PORTER, JAMES W M 10 SON S KY KY KY PORTER, WILLIAM J. W M 8 SON S KY KY KY PORTER, ENNA W F 6 DAU S KY KY KY PORTER, ,ALLIE B. W F 3 DAU S KY KY KY PORTER, O--- LOU [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If you only want the meat, skip to below my signature. I have stayed on the sidelines the past couple of weeks watching the discourse between the Pro and Con factions regarding the compatibility of genealogy and DNA research. For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would object to using modern research techniques to either support or challenge possible relationships between different lineages. I have been doing my own research since 1974. I have scanned through countless pieces of microfiche and rolls of microfilm, written letters to county courts and local offices of vital statistics and driven hundreds of miles to pour over large tomes at major libraries. Today I surf the Internet. I frequent many of the much maligned sites sponsored by the LDS, Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com. I subscribe to more than thirty RootsWeb mailing lists. I utilize e-mail to the fullest extent, asking as many questions of others as they ask of me. I consider all of these are additional tools for me. I have not discontinued my old methods. I take that back. Today I only look at census records on microfilm as a last resort. The quality of the images available online and the ability to zoom in on them have given my eyes great relief! I am not ashamed. Additionally, I still follow the Golden Rule of Genealogy => Verify! Verify! Verify! I have corresponded and collaborated actively with Don Maxwell for at least five years. I assure you he is not in this (Genealogy or DNA Research) for the money. Don is a dedicated genealogy fanatic in the truest sense of the word. He and I are both at a brick wall on our Maxwell lines. Our common migration patterns cause us to suspect we are of the same line. Unfortunately, I am not a direct male descendant. Regardless, someday we will know if our suspicions are correct. I believe the modern methods will help us reach this goal. Enough soap box! Ray Justus Chandler, AZ Below are my four oldest Maxwell generations. I have many more details than are shown here. If any of you believe you have a possible link, addition or correction, please contact me. Descendants of Thomas Maxwell 1 Thomas Maxwell b: in Dumfriesshire, Scotland .. +Hamilton . 2 Thomas Maxwell b: Abt. January 2, 1767 in Trenton, Hunterdon County, New Jersey d: October 5, 1820 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... +Rachel Chambers b: in New Jersey NOTE: The first five children listed with this couple have asterisks after their given names. That is because I am still researching the connections and do not have definite proof that there are connections. It is easier for me to carry them as their children while I continue the research. I do know that Thomas and Rachel did have twelve children. Several pieces of information suggest strongly that the first five children are closely related to Thomas and Rachel if they are not actually their children. ... 3 David* Maxwell b: Abt. 1792 in New Jersey ....... +Elizabeth McCashon m: March 24, 1814 in Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1817 in Ohio ..... 4 William Maxwell b: Abt. 1821 in Ohio ..... 4 David K. Maxwell b: Abt. 1823 in Ohio ..... 4 Fletcher E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1832 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ... 3 Rachel* Maxwell b: January 14, 1796 d: May 10, 1859 ....... +Daniel Small b: March 13, 1788 m: February 8, 1816 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: September 14, 1823 ..... 4 Andrew Small d: May 22, 1860 ..... 4 Margaret Small b: 1817 ......... +William Schenk b: 1812 ... 3 Sarah* Maxwell ....... +John Vinder m: November 24, 1823 in Montgomery County, Ohio ... 3 Thomas* Maxwell b: May 29, 1800 in Monmouth County, New Jersey d: 1881 in Miami County, Ohio .... *1st Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Susannah John aka: Susanna Jones m: February 4, 1824 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: 1839 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Stephen S. Maxwell aka: Stephen J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1825 in Ohio d: Bef. 1900 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Jane L. Stewart m: 1851 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Martha A. Maxwell d: Bef. 1880 ......... +William Duncan aka: William Dunkin m: 1846 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Rachel Maxwell aka: Rachael Maxwell ..... *1st Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +Jonathan or T. Rowlands aka: Con Rollins Jr. m: 1849 in Miami County, Ohio ..... *2nd Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +J. C. Winans m: Aft. 1849 ..... 4 Spafford Woodhull Maxwell b: October 20, 1836 in Franklin, Warren County, Ohio d: June 10, 1911 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Rachel A. Devol aka: Rachael A. Devol b: April 23, 1842 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio m: January 8, 1868 in Miami County, Ohio d: August 27, 1913 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio .... *2nd Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Anna McCurdy aka: Annie Martin b: Abt. 1797 in Pennsylvania m: Aft. 1839 d: 1872 ... 3 John B.* Maxwell aka: John Warren* Maxwell b: Bet. 1801 - 1802 in New Jersey ... *1st Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Sarah Conover m: January 8, 1824 in Warren County, Ohio ..... 4 Daniel Maxwell b: Bet. 1825 - 1826 in Ohio ......... +Elizabeth Kennison b: Abt. 1826 in Ohio ..... 4 Thomas Vern Maxwell b: August 1826 in Ohio d: March 2, 1919 in Story County, Iowa ......... +Nancy Lucinda Barrett b: May 1835 in Maryland, Ohio or Kentucky m: Abt. 1855 d: 1915 ... *2nd Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Elizabeth Small b: Bet. 1802 - 1803 in Ohio m: December 19, 1826 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Samuel Maxwell b: Bet. 1830 - 1831 in Ohio ..... 4 Andrew Maxwell b: Bet. 1832 - 1834 in Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 David Maxwell b: Bet. 1838 - 1839 in Ohio ..... 4 Peter Maxwell b: Abt. 1840 in Ohio ..... 4 Margaret E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1842 in Ohio ..... 4 George Maxwell b: Abt. 1844 in Ohio ... 3 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: July 10, 1809 in Warren County, Ohio d: March 8, 1886 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ....... +Eleanor Denise b: July 22, 1811 in a log cabin built on the west side of the Great Miami River two miles north of Franklin, Warren County, Ohio m: November 18, 1830 d: July 20, 1898 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Sidney Denise Maxwell b: December 23, 1831 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: November 28, 1913 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ......... +Isabella Neff b: April 15, 1854 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio m: June 30, 1875 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Anna Catherine Maxwell b: December 14, 1834 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: April 4, 1890 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ......... +William Hill Lamme b: July 26, 1826 in near Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio m: December 23, 1851 d: April 20, 1889 in Xenia, Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 Abigail Rosamond Maxwell b: January 8, 1838 in Ohio d: March 5, 1930 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Marcellus Jennings Maxwell b: May 25, 1841 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: March 29, 1916 in Urbana, Champaign County, Ohio ......... +Lucie Richards m: Bef. May 17, 1871 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Margaret Eleanor Maxwell b: 1844 in Ohio d: November 16, 1928 in Oxford, Butler County, Ohio ......... +John Mortimer Adams b: 1843 m: 1876 in Lebanon, Monroe County, Ohio d: 1925 ... 3 Phebe Maxwell b: Bet. 1811 - 1812 in Ohio ....... +Robert Gay b: Bet. 1798 - 1804 in Virginia or Ohio m: January 24, 1833 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 George M. Gay b: Bet. 1834 - 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 Hannah Gay b: Abt. 1836 in Ohio ..... 4 Sarah E. Gay b: Abt. 1838 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael Gay b: Abt. 1843 in Ohio ..... 4 Henry O. Gay b: Bet. 1844 - 1846 in Ohio ..... 4 David P. Gay aka: David M. Gay b: Abt. 1849 in Indiana ... 3 George McCann Maxwell b: January 4, 1814 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 2, 1889 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ... *1st Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Amelia Winebrenner b: September 22, 1814 in Hagerstown, Washington County, Maryland m: July 25, 1832 in Miamisburg, Montgomery, Ohio d: July 12, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Joseph Warren Maxwell b: April 2, 1834 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: May 1, 1908 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa ......... +Marietta Pifer aka: Marietta (Ettie) Pifer b: June 1839 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana m: 1857 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: Abt. 1907 ..... 4 Christian Maxwell b: December 26, 1835 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 26, 1836 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Elizabeth Maxwell b: July 2, 1837 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: October 15, 1839 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ..... 4 Charles B. Maxwell b: October 4, 1838 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: June 12, 1880 in Clyde, Jasper County, Iowa ......... +Hattie Elizabeth Higley aka: Harriet Elizabeth Higley b: July 11, 1846 in Hiram, Portage County, Ohio m: October 25, 1868 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Mary Maxwell b: September 29, 1841 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ......... +Frank M. Baldwin b: November 1829 in New York m: October 30, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 David Maxwell b: February 4, 1844 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: July 20, 1845 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Huston Taylor Maxwell b: August 10, 1847 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 11, 1848 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Phebe Maxwell aka: Rhoda Maxwell b: Abt. 1849 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: April 1, 1871 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sina Maxwell b: February 10, 1852 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 20, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ......... +John W. Will b: Bet. 1844 - 1845 in West Virginia m: April 27, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Franklin B. Maxwell b: July 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: July 18, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ... *2nd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Caroline E. Ingersoll b: Bet. 1831 - 1833 in Pennsylvania m: November 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: June 20, 1867 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sidney Ingersoll Maxwell b: September 11, 1861 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: February 20, 1916 in Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri ......... +Lizzie Ann Hall b: August 15, 1862 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa m: December 24, 1882 in Tyner, Polk County, Iowa d: May 10, 1955 in La Junta, Otero County, Colorado ..... 4 Henry Ingersoll Maxwell aka: Harry Maxwell b: June 24, 1863 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: Abt. September 15, 1930 in La Junta or Rocky Ford, Otero County, Colorado ......... +Clara Gillett b: Bet. 1862 - 1863 in Illinois m: March 1883 in Keokuk County, Iowa d: April 13, 1913 in Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona ..... 4 George Chambers Maxwell b: July 3, 1865 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 William W. Maxwell b: February 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa d: October 3, 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa ... *3rd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Angeline Sweet b: September 18, 1842 in Lone Tree, Johnson County, Iowa m: April 5, 1867 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 9, 1906 in Aurora, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Addie Sweet Maxwell aka: Adeline M. Peterson b: December 20, 1869 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Martin O. Peterson b: Abt. 1865 in Minnesota m: June 24, 1891 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Fannie Sweet Maxwell b: February 8, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 25, 1957 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ......... +Samuel Sheldon Carman b: March 24, 1873 in Spring Creek Precinct, Johnson County, Nebraska m: March 24, 1897 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 31, 1962 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Grace Sweet Maxwell b: December 29, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: December 8, 1875 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Caleb Sweet Maxwell aka: Cale Maxwell b: August 20, 1874 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: June 1967 in Bentonville, Benton County, Arkansas ......... +Lucy Ethel (Effie) Bundy b: July 19, 1879 in Iowa m: January 1, 1902 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 1973 in Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas ..... 4 Ole Hill Maxwell b: March 14, 1878 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: Bef. February 19, 1942 in Denver, Denver County, Colorado ......... +Olive Murray b: Abt. 1880 in Colorado m: 1903 ..... 4 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: May 2, 1880 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Marietta S. Maxwell b: April 11, 1882 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Frank E. Scott m: August 31, 1900 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 John A. Logan Maxwell b: December 30, 1884 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico ......... +Mary L. b: Abt. 1885 in Muscotah, Atchison County, Kansas m: August 18, 1909 in Santa Rosa, Guadalupe County, New Mexico d: September 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico

If you only want the meat, skip to below my signature. I have stayed on the sidelines the past couple of weeks watching the discourse between the Pro and Con factions regarding the compatibility of genealogy and DNA research. For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would object to using modern research techniques to either support or challenge possible relationships between different lineages. I have been doing my own research since 1974. I have scanned through countless pieces of microfiche and rolls of microfilm, written letters to county courts and local offices of vital statistics and driven hundreds of miles to pour over large tomes at major libraries. Today I surf the Internet. I frequent many of the much maligned sites sponsored by the LDS, Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com. I subscribe to more than thirty RootsWeb mailing lists. I utilize e-mail to the fullest extent, asking as many questions of others as they ask me. I consider all of these are additional tools for me. I have not discontinued my old methods. I take that back. Today I only look at census records on microfilm as a last resort. The quality of the images available online and the ability to zoom in on them have given my eyes great relief! I am not ashamed. Additionally, I still follow the Golden Rule of Genealogy => Verify! Verify! Verify! I have corresponded and collaborated actively with Don Maxwell for at least five years. I assure you he is not in this (Genealogy or DNA Research) for the money. Don is a dedicated genealogy fanatic in the truest sense of the word. He and I are both at a brick wall on our Maxwell lines. Our common migration patterns cause us to suspect we are of the same line. Unfortunately, I am not a direct male descendant. Regardless, someday we will know if our suspicions are correct. I believe the modern methods will help us reach this goal. Enough soap box! Ray Justus Chandler, AZ Below are my four oldest Maxwell generations. I have many more details than are shown here If any of you believe you have a possible link, addition or correction, please contact me. Descendants of Thomas Maxwell 1 Thomas Maxwell b: in Dumfriesshire, Scotland .. +Hamilton . 2 Thomas Maxwell b: Abt. January 2, 1767 in Trenton, Hunterdon County, New Jersey d: October 5, 1820 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... +Rachel Chambers b: in New Jersey NOTE: The first five children listed with this couple have asterisks after their given names. That is because I am still researching the connections and do not have definite proof that there are connections. It is easier for me to carry them as their children while I continue the research. I do know that Thomas and Rachel did have twelve children. Several pieces of information suggest strongly that the first five children are closely related to Thomas and Rachel if they are not actually their children. ... 3 David* Maxwell b: Abt. 1792 in New Jersey ....... +Elizabeth McCashon m: March 24, 1814 in Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1817 in Ohio ..... 4 William Maxwell b: Abt. 1821 in Ohio ..... 4 David K. Maxwell b: Abt. 1823 in Ohio ..... 4 Fletcher E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1832 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ... 3 Rachel* Maxwell b: January 14, 1796 d: May 10, 1859 ....... +Daniel Small b: March 13, 1788 m: February 8, 1816 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: September 14, 1823 ..... 4 Andrew Small d: May 22, 1860 ..... 4 Margaret Small b: 1817 ......... +William Schenk b: 1812 ... 3 Sarah* Maxwell ....... +John Vinder m: November 24, 1823 in Montgomery County, Ohio ... 3 Thomas* Maxwell b: May 29, 1800 in Monmouth County, New Jersey d: 1881 in Miami County, Ohio .... *1st Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Susannah John aka: Susanna Jones m: February 4, 1824 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: 1839 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Stephen S. Maxwell aka: Stephen J. Maxwell b: Abt. 1825 in Ohio d: Bef. 1900 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Jane L. Stewart m: 1851 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Martha A. Maxwell d: Bef. 1880 ......... +William Duncan aka: William Dunkin m: 1846 in Miami County, Ohio ..... 4 Rachel Maxwell aka: Rachael Maxwell ..... *1st Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +Jonathan or T. Rowlands aka: Con Rollins Jr. m: 1849 in Miami County, Ohio ..... *2nd Husband of Rachel Maxwell: ......... +J. C. Winans m: Aft. 1849 ..... 4 Spafford Woodhull Maxwell b: October 20, 1836 in Franklin, Warren County, Ohio d: June 10, 1911 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio ......... +Rachel A. Devol aka: Rachael A. Devol b: April 23, 1842 in Staunton Township, Miami County, Ohio m: January 8, 1868 in Miami County, Ohio d: August 27, 1913 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio .... *2nd Wife of Thomas* Maxwell: ....... +Anna McCurdy aka: Annie Martin b: Abt. 1797 in Pennsylvania m: Aft. 1839 d: 1872 ... 3 John B.* Maxwell aka: John Warren* Maxwell b: Bet. 1801 - 1802 in New Jersey ... *1st Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Sarah Conover m: January 8, 1824 in Warren County, Ohio ..... 4 Daniel Maxwell b: Bet. 1825 - 1826 in Ohio ......... +Elizabeth Kennison b: Abt. 1826 in Ohio ..... 4 Thomas Vern Maxwell b: August 1826 in Ohio d: March 2, 1919 in Story County, Iowa ......... +Nancy Lucinda Barrett b: May 1835 in Maryland, Ohio or Kentucky m: Abt. 1855 d: 1915 ... *2nd Wife of John B.* Maxwell: ....... +Elizabeth Small b: Bet. 1802 - 1803 in Ohio m: December 19, 1826 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Samuel Maxwell b: Bet. 1830 - 1831 in Ohio ..... 4 Andrew Maxwell b: Bet. 1832 - 1834 in Ohio ..... 4 John Maxwell b: Abt. 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 David Maxwell b: Bet. 1838 - 1839 in Ohio ..... 4 Peter Maxwell b: Abt. 1840 in Ohio ..... 4 Margaret E. Maxwell b: Abt. 1842 in Ohio ..... 4 George Maxwell b: Abt. 1844 in Ohio ... 3 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: July 10, 1809 in Warren County, Ohio d: March 8, 1886 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ....... +Eleanor Denise b: July 22, 1811 in a log cabin built on the west side of the Great Miami River two miles north of Franklin, Warren County, Ohio m: November 18, 1830 d: July 20, 1898 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Sidney Denise Maxwell b: December 23, 1831 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: November 28, 1913 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ......... +Isabella Neff b: April 15, 1854 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio m: June 30, 1875 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Anna Catherine Maxwell b: December 14, 1834 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: April 4, 1890 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio ......... +William Hill Lamme b: July 26, 1826 in near Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio m: December 23, 1851 d: April 20, 1889 in Xenia, Greene County, Ohio ..... 4 Abigail Rosamond Maxwell b: January 8, 1838 in Ohio d: March 5, 1930 in Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Marcellus Jennings Maxwell b: May 25, 1841 in Centerville, Montgomery County, Ohio d: March 29, 1916 in Urbana, Champaign County, Ohio ......... +Lucie Richards m: Bef. May 17, 1871 in Hamilton County, Ohio ..... 4 Margaret Eleanor Maxwell b: 1844 in Ohio d: November 16, 1928 in Oxford, Butler County, Ohio ......... +John Mortimer Adams b: 1843 m: 1876 in Lebanon, Monroe County, Ohio d: 1925 ... 3 Phebe Maxwell b: Bet. 1811 - 1812 in Ohio ....... +Robert Gay b: Bet. 1798 - 1804 in Virginia or Ohio m: January 24, 1833 in Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 George M. Gay b: Bet. 1834 - 1835 in Ohio ..... 4 Hannah Gay b: Abt. 1836 in Ohio ..... 4 Sarah E. Gay b: Abt. 1838 in Ohio ..... 4 Rachael Gay b: Abt. 1843 in Ohio ..... 4 Henry O. Gay b: Bet. 1844 - 1846 in Ohio ..... 4 David P. Gay aka: David M. Gay b: Abt. 1849 in Indiana ... 3 George McCann Maxwell b: January 4, 1814 in Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 2, 1889 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ... *1st Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Amelia Winebrenner b: September 22, 1814 in Hagerstown, Washington County, Maryland m: July 25, 1832 in Miamisburg, Montgomery, Ohio d: July 12, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Joseph Warren Maxwell b: April 2, 1834 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: May 1, 1908 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa ......... +Marietta Pifer aka: Marietta (Ettie) Pifer b: June 1839 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana m: 1857 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: Abt. 1907 ..... 4 Christian Maxwell b: December 26, 1835 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio d: August 26, 1836 in Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio ..... 4 Elizabeth Maxwell b: July 2, 1837 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: October 15, 1839 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ..... 4 Charles B. Maxwell b: October 4, 1838 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana d: June 12, 1880 in Clyde, Jasper County, Iowa ......... +Hattie Elizabeth Higley aka: Harriet Elizabeth Higley b: July 11, 1846 in Hiram, Portage County, Ohio m: October 25, 1868 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Mary Maxwell b: September 29, 1841 in Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana ......... +Frank M. Baldwin b: November 1829 in New York m: October 30, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 David Maxwell b: February 4, 1844 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: July 20, 1845 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Huston Taylor Maxwell b: August 10, 1847 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 11, 1848 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana ..... 4 Phebe Maxwell aka: Rhoda Maxwell b: Abt. 1849 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: April 1, 1871 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sina Maxwell b: February 10, 1852 in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana d: August 20, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ......... +John W. Will b: Bet. 1844 - 1845 in West Virginia m: April 27, 1872 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Franklin B. Maxwell b: July 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: July 18, 1860 in Story County, Iowa ... *2nd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Caroline E. Ingersoll b: Bet. 1831 - 1833 in Pennsylvania m: November 11, 1860 in Story County, Iowa d: June 20, 1867 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Sidney Ingersoll Maxwell b: September 11, 1861 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: February 20, 1916 in Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri ......... +Lizzie Ann Hall b: August 15, 1862 in Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa m: December 24, 1882 in Tyner, Polk County, Iowa d: May 10, 1955 in La Junta, Otero County, Colorado ..... 4 Henry Ingersoll Maxwell aka: Harry Maxwell b: June 24, 1863 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa d: Abt. September 15, 1930 in La Junta or Rocky Ford, Otero County, Colorado ......... +Clara Gillett b: Bet. 1862 - 1863 in Illinois m: March 1883 in Keokuk County, Iowa d: April 13, 1913 in Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona ..... 4 George Chambers Maxwell b: July 3, 1865 in Indian Camp Farm, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 William W. Maxwell b: February 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa d: October 3, 1867 in Iowa Center, Story County, Iowa ... *3rd Wife of George McCann Maxwell: ....... +Angeline Sweet b: September 18, 1842 in Lone Tree, Johnson County, Iowa m: April 5, 1867 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 9, 1906 in Aurora, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Addie Sweet Maxwell aka: Adeline M. Peterson b: December 20, 1869 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Martin O. Peterson b: Abt. 1865 in Minnesota m: June 24, 1891 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Fannie Sweet Maxwell b: February 8, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: October 25, 1957 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ......... +Samuel Sheldon Carman b: March 24, 1873 in Spring Creek Precinct, Johnson County, Nebraska m: March 24, 1897 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 31, 1962 in Brookings, Brookings County, South Dakota ..... 4 Grace Sweet Maxwell b: December 29, 1871 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: December 8, 1875 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Caleb Sweet Maxwell aka: Cale Maxwell b: August 20, 1874 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: June 1967 in Bentonville, Benton County, Arkansas ......... +Lucy Ethel (Effie) Bundy b: July 19, 1879 in Iowa m: January 1, 1902 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 1973 in Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas ..... 4 Ole Hill Maxwell b: March 14, 1878 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: Bef. February 19, 1942 in Denver, Denver County, Colorado ......... +Olive Murray b: Abt. 1880 in Colorado m: 1903 ..... 4 Nathaniel Van Maxwell b: May 2, 1880 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ..... 4 Marietta S. Maxwell b: April 11, 1882 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa ......... +Frank E. Scott m: August 31, 1900 in Story County, Iowa ..... 4 John A. Logan Maxwell b: December 30, 1884 in Cambridge, Story County, Iowa d: August 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico ......... +Mary L. b: Abt. 1885 in Muscotah, Atchison County, Kansas m: August 18, 1909 in Santa Rosa, Guadalupe County, New Mexico d: September 23, 1960 in Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico

> My Maxwell line IS my mother's line. Does that mean > my BROTHER should be > tested, but not me? > > Thanks > Kate If Maxwell is your mothers maiden name (meaning her father was a Maxwell of course) then the ones who should be tested was HER brother (your m-uncle) or her father (your m-gpa). In other words you need a guy with the last name Maxwell to test the y-dna (male dna). HTH. (if you need more info there is a dna list (for those that are griping about dna posts). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Genealogy is like a triangle, a lot of us are sitting in the lower part of this triangle trying to figure out how to find the link to the person at the top of the triangle. However, there's many parts to this triangle, the one guy at the top has 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, 16 great great grand parents, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512,1024 and keeps on going. I'm sitting here in the eighth generation around 128. It's a long hard trail for some of us looking towards the top. I need a link to the top, after years and years of searching a lot of us are no closer to the top, the triangle just keeps getting wider and wider at the bottom. I have found close to 15,000 Maxwell's descendants who are related to my Thomas Maxwell and there's hundreds of thousand's out there. I have talked to, emailed, searched LDS, Rootsweb, Ancestry, library after library looking for one more step to the top. I've been on this site two years and still found nothing extra towards the top. Lets do what ever it takes to find our answers, by asking for help from others or new technology, the end result is to find answer's. The word genealogy and genealogist is from the word GENE and that means (Webster)" one of the complex protein molecules associated with the chromosomes of reproductive cells and acting as a unit or various biochemically determined combinations, in the transmission of specific hereditary character from parents to offspring" . If any one of us could find a way to help, why not use it. If DNA doesn't work or help it will fade in to the sunset. So just give it a chance. If Columbus believed there wasn't a chance, he'd never set sail to America. If all of us didn't believed this site would or could help we wouldn't be listed. I sorry if I affined anyone. But in 1776 my Rev. Thomas Maxwell was a Revolutionary soldier, he had along with many of your ancestors the 3 G's, GOD, guns and guts and he used all three. That's my belief still almost 300 years later. We've taken God out of schools now judge it for yourself. Now to help others do some family searching, Back in the earlier years our ancestors used name patterning. The first male was named after the father's side, example : My Rev. Thomas Maxwell's parents were Thomas Maxwell and his mother was Keziah Blake . Their first child was female name Johannah, named after Keziah's mother Johannah Ball, the second child a male named John, maybe after Thomas father, the next child was Rev. Thomas Maxwell named after his father and grandfather. When Rev. Thomas married Mary Pemberton they had eleven children. The first a male named John, still within the male line and second was a female again named Keziah within the female side, third another male, again named Thomas. So when searching, use your common names within your line. I have found this type pattern throughout the thousand's of names in my records and while viewing other lines. Just remember the further back we go, the smaller the section of the triangle and the closer we get to each other, lets get close and find all our answers together. It all started with one MR. MAXWELL making us alol brother's and sister's. United we stand divided we fall. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ceelys@cs.com> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Maxwell List Complaints > Well said!! I have never found any connection on this list to my > Maxwells, but I haven't complained because someone did not help me. I just > keep looking and do know how to hit the delete key. Can we stop picking at > the DNA posters. You may find out that one of them is a "cousin" somewhere > down the road. > > SLC (Looking for the parents of Sarah Maxwell born about 1816 in Logan Co., > KY, married Samuel N. Crewdson 13 January 1834 in Logan Co., KY, lived in > Atchison Co., MO in 1856 where Samuel died. She died in Calaveras Co., CA > after 1880.) > > > > I have as much right to use this list as you > > and your group do, As long as I go by the rules. > > > <snip> this forcing of your idea > > onto the rest of us. Could it be the all-mighty > > $$$$$. > > Ya know - you talk about going by the rules and then > go right on and insult him/her by insinuating that > he/she will profit by the DNA (which is total BS) and > that he/she is "forcing" this idea on you. Personally, > I think you've bordered on breaking "rules" yourself. > > And others have talked about "the DNAers" being rude. > I think they are just being defensive/responsive to an > attack on their posts (they didn't initiate the > rudeness). The people who don't want to read about it > were being very rude (IMO) (by not respecting their > right to post information). They (IMO) are not just > posting irrelevant DNA information - they are posting > information relating to the genetic tests to try to > prove/disprove a MAXWELL genealogical line. > > I have a right (as do others) to post relevant > geneology information. I find the subject of DNA is > appropriate to genealogy (there is a science to it - > not perfect yet but still a validity). There is a lot > of genealogy that flows through this list that is not > of interest to me but it is to others .. the same goes > for DNA. I find it sad that some of the list members > are so antagonistic about something that IS geneology > related just because it doesn't "interest" them. > > jmo. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

Just for the record, there is nothing rude about having two forums one for oldtime genealogy and one for DNA genealogy. My state has 3 formums for the state and then some. One for each county. Not because each county doesnt want the others to be on their list, but because the each cover different areas and are of interest to people, different reasons. The flow of Maxxwell queries has slowed down because we are people are tired of not finding what they are looking for. The majority of each digest is on DNA. By the time you weed through to get to the other postings, precious time is wasted because what used to be people sharing their family record and pedigree information is now all some scientific discussion. If you find a match you still dont have names and or dates, just generalities. It is know different than knowing you are a decendant of a president with no proof of names and dates inbetween. Having 2 formums would not cause anyone to miss anything. Each forum could refer to the other in the list administrations instructions at the beginning of each digest. And anyone who cares could just join both forums and not miss a thing. Im sure listers will start posting more again, when things go back to old time genealogy. Im on many lists and this is the only one losing valuable postings to DNA postings. And like I said there is nothing rude about posting to a separate forum where those interested would be able to get their daily dose. Also, when we had regular postings and less DNA there was no need for JUNK mail from from people with "selfish retorts" because the DNA non stop stories are what have brought all of this about. We are not being selfish because we want information from a list that we signed on to because it was full of useful family record and pedigree information. That is why we joined! SO soon there will be no more people asking "questions" because they will be losing interest and moving on and missing out on sharing valuable information with those who want the same. Im sure it would make those very happy who need more room for the DNA stories and in time that is all that there will be on this list. If we wanted DNA to be the main topic we could have signed on to the Science list. The "retorts" selfish or not are getting old including mine. Maybe we can get the list back to what it used to be. If not we can always post through Root-D@ rootsweb.com or Roots-L @ rootsweb.com where we can actually ask and get answers to our questions. Vickie Cooking0404@aol.com List Administrator, there is no disrespect meant to you by this, it is just that many of us were happy with the list before DNA, and now we arent getting questions or answers unless we go off the list.

Well said!! I have never found any connection on this list to my Maxwells, but I haven't complained because someone did not help me. I just keep looking and do know how to hit the delete key. Can we stop picking at the DNA posters. You may find out that one of them is a "cousin" somewhere down the road. SLC (Looking for the parents of Sarah Maxwell born about 1816 in Logan Co., KY, married Samuel N. Crewdson 13 January 1834 in Logan Co., KY, lived in Atchison Co., MO in 1856 where Samuel died. She died in Calaveras Co., CA after 1880.) > I have as much right to use this list as you > and your group do, As long as I go by the rules. > <snip> this forcing of your idea > onto the rest of us. Could it be the all-mighty > $$$$$. Ya know - you talk about going by the rules and then go right on and insult him/her by insinuating that he/she will profit by the DNA (which is total BS) and that he/she is "forcing" this idea on you. Personally, I think you've bordered on breaking "rules" yourself. And others have talked about "the DNAers" being rude. I think they are just being defensive/responsive to an attack on their posts (they didn't initiate the rudeness). The people who don't want to read about it were being very rude (IMO) (by not respecting their right to post information). They (IMO) are not just posting irrelevant DNA information - they are posting information relating to the genetic tests to try to prove/disprove a MAXWELL genealogical line. I have a right (as do others) to post relevant geneology information. I find the subject of DNA is appropriate to genealogy (there is a science to it - not perfect yet but still a validity). There is a lot of genealogy that flows through this list that is not of interest to me but it is to others .. the same goes for DNA. I find it sad that some of the list members are so antagonistic about something that IS geneology related just because it doesn't "interest" them. jmo.

Don, At first, I thought as I am sure many of my ancestors must have when they come to this country. And that was, That very living person should have the right to his or her own opinions and ideas. Heck, they even fought wars so that YOU and I would have the same right of free speech, and the right to invent new and better ways of doing things. But, No way did they come to this country, and or fight all the wars so YOU and I could force OUR own will on others. I have as much right to use this list as you and your group do, As long as I go by the rules. I can assure You and everyone on this list that I have no interest investment, or own any company that would benefit from me doing my research the way we were doing it on this list before your DNA idea came along. And to be completely fair to your idea I went to the DNA website that was posted on this list and read it. "Even researched the cost of doing these test." So, It is very hard for me, and I stress, only in my opinion that there must be more than just DNA at the bottom of all this forcing of your idea onto the rest of us. Could it be the all-mighty $$$$$. Don't get me wrong, I wish you and yours the very best in your endeavors of DNA. And that, any of the companies that you may or may not support, and or may or may not be affiliated with do well. Remember, That is one of the most important reasons our ancestors came to this country. Free trade, The right to free enterprise, And most of all the right to free speech.. This will be my last "free speech right" on this subject. Just, as my list brothers Larry & Harry have the right to voice their opinions of what I should do. Hey, I still respect them for that was, and is still their right to do. Again, I do not care if all of you have DNA testing, that is your right. But, for me as one of this lists members, I can not afford the cost involved in you DNA testing program. But, Believe me Don, I do trust, and believe in DNA testing. It has been used in my family at least one time that I know of. "When they brought my dead cousin back from Vet-Nam." There were no teeth left for a dental match.!!!!! Dale. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Maxwell To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: [MAXWELL-L] New family relation found Pa & Ky/Ohio I consider any type of research technique concerning a specific family to be genealogy. Posted below is the most recent Maxwell connections from the DNA study. I have a few paper proofs in my possession that do not prove an exact relationship, only a close family relationship. An example would be a will where it says "James Maxwell ,... my kinsman..."...I do not know if this is a cousin, nephew, uncle, 2nd cousin etc....I understand that the word kinsman can sometimes mean son in law , father in law etc.... A DNA match is similiar , it proves a family connection but not an exact relationship...and it has the power of science backing it up! The most powerful use of DNA is the "mismatch" as it absolutely, irrefutably proves no relationship. When the paper trail runs dry, we ALL make our best guesses as to who the most likely father of an individual was....this study was designed to assist researchers at an absolute dead end....to disprove a relationship (a mismatch....allows one to stop searching a particular line)...or reiterates the need to continue (ie find the paper proof). Starting a new group is self-defeating as many may not see a possible lineage connection and miss important information. In other words its not about DNA , its about finding new MAxwell family connections. We need to respect each others postings and try to facilitate further advances and links between our lines. Now for the good news: DNA has found exact 12 matches between the following lines: 1.William Maxwell b bef 1740 (m. Eliz McCutcheon and Jane Pilson)2.William Maxwell b 1767 m. Nancy Robbins (this is the famous early Ohio Printer) 3.Thomas Maxwell (1738-1785) m. Ann Blackmar 4.Robert Maxwell (d 1792) m. Elizabeth _______ As posted yesterday Thomas (#3) and Robert(#4) were thought to be brothers as they both died in Nottingham township, Chester County, Pa...so no surprise...and it supports this theory. But William (#1 and #2) were complete surprises....the dates and similiar names point to a possible father/son or uncle/nephew relationship....William #1 may also have been in Chester Co., PA. prior to Ky. Another result involves the Adams/York Co., Pa MAxwell line found in Maxwell genealogy by Houston book. It involves a "mismatch" and they are therefore not related to those lines mentioned above: Summary (from Maxwell hx, and paper proofs): A.John and Izabel (Mcgrew) Maxwell had at least three sons: 1. James who married Mary Campbell 2. Robert who married Emelia Scoggin (Emme) 3. John who married Isabella Dodd Therefore, Robert Maxwell /Emme were uncle and aunt to Robert/Deborah Weirman of Ohio, and John Maxwell/ Isabella Dodd were uncle and aunt to John Maxwell /Ruth Cypherd. ( see Maxwell Hx book for details). I would have bet money they were related to my line and in fact I have spent years researching this clan as I felt this was the line to which my Thomas belonged. So I am going to refocus on William (#1 and #2 above) and begin a new search on lines that I have done essentially no research....the study has indeed provided huge benefit to me in my own personal search! Sorry for the long posting but I thought most people would like for me to share new information as it becomes available. Dedicated to Maxwell family genealogy, Don MAXWELL DNA website: http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html THOMAS MAXWELL (1738-1785 Pa) website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I18288 >From: LTCMAX117@aol.com Reply-To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com To: >MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAXWELL-L] DNA Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 >23:06:37 EDT > >To reply to Clyde Burns concerning the situation he posed: > >If the two descendants had the DNA analysis, they would either match or not >match, that is certain. > >If their Y-chromosome markers match 12 for 12, they are related, but the >MRCA (most-recent-common -ancestor) may not be the grandfather or even the >great grandfathers, it could go farther back. > >BUT MORE IMPORTANT, and a point that is being over-looked, if they do not >match, then we know that those grandfathers are not brothers. We got a >negative result, and in normal genealogical research, negative results >(probably 75 to 85% of the time) narrow the field and allow us to >concentrate elsewhere. We have all experienced this, over and over again! > >I agree there are "probabilities" involved with DNA, but in this example of >a negative result, it looks to me like a bullseye! Don, please comment if I >have strayed from the mark. (co-administrator, Max). > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

There were more than 400 hits on the Maxwell Family DNA Study during the first week, so a lot of listers are interested. Like anything new or unusual, there is always a lot of interest in the beginning and then the traffic will slow down. Imagine if someone found the 1790 census records in a warehouse......the bulletin board would be swamped! I agree, rudeness should stop....but how rude is,"take them off, let them have their own forum???" The normal flow of Maxwell queries has slowed, but that's because the listers have stopped posting the queries. There is plenty of space for all of us.

OOPS. You used that word. ALMOST. Still proves nothing. Martha Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxwell, Debra" <Debra.Maxwell@qwest.com> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [MAXWELL-L] Question > Hi Dale, > Don's oldest known ancestor, Thomas Maxwell, and my oldest known ancestor, > Robert Maxwell (d. 1792) lived very close to each other in Chester Co. Pa. > They also have other similarities. For the last few years Don and I have > assumed they were related and we assumed they were brothers, however, they > could have been cousins, distant cousins or anything else. My father, > Marshall Maxwell, took the dna test and the company compared 10 points on my > dad's Y chromosome with 10 points on Don's Y chromosome. We have found that > there is an almost perfect match. The science behind this test proves that > Thomas and Robert were brothers. > > Although this doesn't help us find Thomas or Robert's father, we now know > more about this relationship than we did before. I know I would be very > interested to see if any of the North Carolina Maxwells match our dna. This > test could also prove or disprove that the Georgia Maxwells came from our > gene pool. > > Besides all this, I think the whole process has been fun and interesting. > > While I'm writing, I would like to express some concern I have about bad > data that keeps coming back to me with my name on it as the source of that > data. It has always turned out that I've never seen the data before--it > didn't come from me. I have combined my Maxwell family tree with only one > other tree because I was sure of a connection and I was very sure of the > data. However, I think it's important to not include other people's family > trees in your family tree. If someone makes a change in the data and that > data is stored in other trees, we are now perpetuating a data integrity > problem, bad and confusing data being passed around. > > Following is a link to my tree, however the email address is wrong on my web > page. My hard drive has crashed and I'm working on it. I'll change the > email address on my website as soon as I get my pc up and running again. > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/x/Debra-Maxwell/index.html > > Thanks, > > Debbie Maxwell > Lakewood, CO > > -----Original Message----- > From: L. Dale Shrader [mailto:ldale@lightbound.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:02 PM > To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MAXWELL-L] Question > > > This subject is starting to get tooo deep for me. Heck all I wanted to do > was find some of my Maxwell kin. I don't want to prove the paternity of > anyone. > > All I had was Just a simple question as to who the parents of My G > Grandmothers Husband were????? > > Oh! my G grandmothers husband was Joseph F. Maxwell b. 1848 in Ohio Co. Ky. > > I don't see how your DNA testing and or program is going to find them????? > If you are so sure it is going to the final easy answer to all of our > research. I have one question for you:::: Have you patent your idea and are > using us as your testing forum?? > > If you happen to run across Joseph F. Maxwell. I would be very very grateful > and would not ever question your system again!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I am Just a member that has been reading for weeks now about this > DNA.system By the way, I also watched the O J trial !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Thank you. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: abcfhist > To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:27 PM > Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Question > > > How would you get the testing done if someone has been dead since the > 1700's? Wouldn't you have to find where they are buried and get permission > to dig them up and then how would you go about gtting sample to get tested > and what would you need to get and where would you take it? > > Beth > >

I consider any type of research technique concerning a specific family to be genealogy. Posted below is the most recent Maxwell connections from the DNA study. I have a few paper proofs in my possession that do not prove an exact relationship, only a close family relationship. An example would be a will where it says "James Maxwell ,... my kinsman..."...I do not know if this is a cousin, nephew, uncle, 2nd cousin etc....I understand that the word kinsman can sometimes mean son in law , father in law etc.... A DNA match is similiar , it proves a family connection but not an exact relationship...and it has the power of science backing it up! The most powerful use of DNA is the "mismatch" as it absolutely, irrefutably proves no relationship. When the paper trail runs dry, we ALL make our best guesses as to who the most likely father of an individual was....this study was designed to assist researchers at an absolute dead end....to disprove a relationship (a mismatch....allows one to stop searching a particular line)...or reiterates the need to continue (ie find the paper proof). Starting a new group is self-defeating as many may not see a possible lineage connection and miss important information. In other words its not about DNA , its about finding new MAxwell family connections. We need to respect each others postings and try to facilitate further advances and links between our lines. Now for the good news: DNA has found exact 12/12 matches between the following lines: 1.William Maxwell b bef 1740 (m. Eliz McCutcheon and Jane Pilson)2.William Maxwell b 1767 m. Nancy Robbins (this is the famous early Ohio Printer) 3.Thomas Maxwell (1738-1785) m. Ann Blackmar 4.Robert Maxwell (d 1792) m. Elizabeth _______ As posted yesterday Thomas (#3) and Robert(#4) were thought to be brothers as they both died in Nottingham township, Chester County, Pa...so no surprise...and it supports this theory. But William (#1 and #2) were complete surprises....the dates and similiar names point to a possible father/son or uncle/nephew relationship....William #1 may also have been in Chester Co., PA. prior to Ky. Another result involves the Adams/York Co., Pa MAxwell line found in Maxwell genealogy by Houston book. It involves a "mismatch" and they are therefore not related to those lines mentioned above: Summary (from Maxwell hx, and paper proofs): A.John and Izabel (Mcgrew) Maxwell had at least three sons: 1. James who married Mary Campbell 2. Robert who married Emelia Scoggin (Emme) 3. John who married Isabella Dodd Therefore, Robert Maxwell /Emme were uncle and aunt to Robert/Deborah Weirman of Ohio, and John Maxwell/ Isabella Dodd were uncle and aunt to John Maxwell /Ruth Cypherd. ( see Maxwell Hx book for details). I would have bet money they were related to my line and in fact I have spent years researching this clan as I felt this was the line to which my Thomas belonged. So I am going to refocus on William (#1 and #2 above) and begin a new search on lines that I have done essentially no research....the study has indeed provided huge benefit to me in my own personal search! Sorry for the long posting but I thought most people would like for me to share new information as it becomes available. Dedicated to Maxwell family genealogy, Don MAXWELL DNA website: http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html THOMAS MAXWELL (1738-1785 Pa) website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I18288 >From: LTCMAX117@aol.com Reply-To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com To: >MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAXWELL-L] DNA Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 >23:06:37 EDT > >To reply to Clyde Burns concerning the situation he posed: > >If the two descendants had the DNA analysis, they would either match or not >match, that is certain. > >If their Y-chromosome markers match 12 for 12, they are related, but the >MRCA (most-recent-common -ancestor) may not be the grandfather or even the >great grandfathers, it could go farther back. > >BUT MORE IMPORTANT, and a point that is being over-looked, if they do not >match, then we know that those grandfathers are not brothers. We got a >negative result, and in normal genealogical research, negative results >(probably 75 to 85% of the time) narrow the field and allow us to >concentrate elsewhere. We have all experienced this, over and over again! > >I agree there are "probabilities" involved with DNA, but in this example of >a negative result, it looks to me like a bullseye! Don, please comment if I >have strayed from the mark. (co-administrator, Max). > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

> I have as much right to use this list as you > and your group do, As long as I go by the rules. > <snip> this forcing of your idea > onto the rest of us. Could it be the all-mighty > $$$$$. Ya know - you talk about going by the rules and then go right on and insult him/her by insinuating that he/she will profit by the DNA (which is total BS) and that he/she is "forcing" this idea on you. Personally, I think you've bordered on breaking "rules" yourself. And others have talked about "the DNAers" being rude. I think they are just being defensive/responsive to an attack on their posts (they didn't initiate the rudeness). The people who don't want to read about it were being very rude (IMO) (by not respecting their right to post information). They (IMO) are not just posting irrelevant DNA information - they are posting information relating to the genetic tests to try to prove/disprove a MAXWELL genealogical line. I have a right (as do others) to post relevant geneology information. I find the subject of DNA is appropriate to genealogy (there is a science to it - not perfect yet but still a validity). There is a lot of genealogy that flows through this list that is not of interest to me but it is to others .. the same goes for DNA. I find it sad that some of the list members are so antagonistic about something that IS geneology related just because it doesn't "interest" them. jmo. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Does not anyone (dna) have a DEANE CLARENCE MAXWELL born about 1880 (possibly lived in southern Arkansas) in their family? Would like to share data. Thanks.

I sure agree with your comments. I wish they would put the DNA testing into a seperate listing, so my e-mail wouldn't be filled up with junk every morning. It certainly detracts from my search for my branch of Maxwells. Dean

All of these selfish retorts are junk too. GMW On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 07:45:16 -0400 "Dean Ab-Hugh" <deana71@mindspring.com> writes: > I sure agree with your comments. I wish they would put the DNA > testing > into a seperate listing, so my e-mail wouldn't be filled up with > junk > every morning. It certainly detracts from my search for my branch > of > Maxwells. > > Dean > > >

To the list administrator and listers: I find that this discussion on DNA has caused many people to become very rude to those not interested in the DNA testing. Why isnt this DNA discussion on its own list ex. DNA-MAXWELL-D or L @ rootsweb.com. The above digest had 10 postings, 8 of the were about DNA. Some of them were down right rude to those wanting to get back to genealogy. Genealogy is why people signed on to this list. To tell someone that they can just delete them "just like I do to yours" is uncalled for. To tell someone how to unscribe from this list because a rooter asked "how do I get off this list" , because they have heard enough is also ridiculous and rude. I realize that people think you can just "delete" what you are not interested in but....... I have the digest form, and I have to scroll thru them all to read the 2 that were actually giving and asking for information about genealogy. When I first joined this list, I found it very interesting and helpful. Now all that is discussed is DNA. I thought you had addressed it and that it was going to be put on another list. Maybe I misunderstood with all the constant bickering and people wanting to move on the genealogy information instead of nothing but DNA. My Maxwell line is from Delaware and possibly Maryland. I have gotten information that might lead me to the some of the family. A test isnt going to give me names, dates, etc and the thrill of the chase is to find this information and make contacts that will assist in those finds. I think it just is wonderful if it is what you feel you need to do to make you be connected to someone. But it is not what everyone wants to do. Some of us just want to work on those paper trails and research for the facts. Since so many people "must argue and be rude about this" and until this started I had not run into one rude person on any genealogy list, then the solution would seem to be, make DNA it's own mailing list. That way they can discuss it to their hearts content and everyone else can go back to get10 postings about the old tyme version of genealogy that they signed on to receive. I hope that after you review this posting, you share it with the list. If it causes those researching DNA to chose to "Delete" this posting. Then that is what they should do. If they spend their time deleting postings with genealogy information and questions willing to be shared with others, then they are probably not interested in the same thing as the rest of us. It would be nice to go back to having people share their information and being kind to the others on this list. Vickie Cooking0404@aol.com