I am looking for the parents and siblings of Jane S. MAXWELL born in February 1842, in Illinois. She was married to George Misner on August 28, 1858 in Illinois. She applied for a widows pension in Kane Co, IL. She died after 1907 in Edwards County, KS Frank

I wish I could help you, as I have both Maxwell and Minser (Jacob and Isobella) in my family tree, but I don't see a Jane Maxwell. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josette L. Maxwell" <maxwelljl@earthlink.net> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 01, 1996 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [MAXWELL-L] Jane S. Maxwell, Kane County, IL February 1842 > Can you tell me the names of her children? > > Josette Maxwell > Boone NC > > > At 11:35 PM 3/3/03 +0700, you wrote: > >I am looking for the parents and siblings of Jane S. MAXWELL born in > >February 1842, in Illinois. She was married to George Misner on August 28, > >1858 in Illinois. She applied for a widows pension in Kane Co, IL. She died > >after 1907 in Edwards County, KS > > > >Frank > >

I am Ed McCarthy, of Buxton ME and the Washington DC area, from time to time. I was born in Newark, New Jersey, and on my mother's side there were a good many Maxwells, including Clara, my grandmother who married John Mulvey. She and the other Maxwell kin in Newark and New York were descended from John Maxwell (c. 1804-1851), born in or around Clones, County Monaghan, Ireland. He and his descendants were Roman Catholic, which distinguishes them from the few Maxwells in that area of Ireland that I have been able to research. There was also in Newark at about the same time a Bernard Maxwell, also a Roman Catholic. As many mid-19th century migrants to Newark were from the Irish midlands, it seems likely that Bernard came from approximately the same part of Ireland as my known ancestor. John enlisted in the British Army in 1822 or 23, and remained a soldier until July 1833. The official records say that he then deserted, but there is some evidence that his discharge was honorable. He and his wife, Rosa Callaghan, and their 6-year-old son, William, then migrated to New York City. They and their additional children later moved to Newark about 1848. Though most of the Maxwells stayed in New Jersey, William moved back to Manhattan and thence to Brooklyn, the latter after serving 4 years in the Union Army during the Civil War. The Maxwell name, in both New Jersey and New York, died out with several female relatives in the 1940s. I am thus interested in Irish Maxwells, Catholic at least by 1800 or so. It may be that John converted to the Catholic religion on his marriage to Rosa Callaghan, but there is no direct evidence of that. I would also like to know if anyone has information on how the Scots name Maxwell might have come to Ireland. I am aware that at least some Maxwells remained Catholic after the Reformation, and that there were officers in King James's Army at the time of the Boyne who were Catholic Maxwells. Is it conceivable to think that my ancestor could have been descended from a Maxwell clan member who "went to ground" after the Boyne defeat and stayed in Ireland? On this, I would like to have anyone's speculation, as well as any information relevant to "my" Maxwells generally. Regards--Ed McCarthy

Hello Daniel. I wonder if youcould point me in the right direction to find a Maxwell born in Ireland 1840 who then went to Lanark Scotland where he married and had at least 7 children,the oldest being 14 in 1881 census. Iam looking to find B.D.M. for him &family. Thank you John Maxwell Victoria Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Cowan" <daniel@carolina.rr.com> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Scotch-Irish Genealogical Research Materials > It is only on rare occasions that I add a book to the list of "must haves" > for the study of Scotch-Irish genealogy. This one is for our friends with > Pennsylvania connections and it is certainly a rare item. Published in 1856 > "by a descendant" it is titled: > > "A Tribute to the Principles, Virtues, Habits and Public Usefulness of the > Irish and Scotch Early Settlers of Pennsylvania," Chambersburg, Pa., > Printed by M. Kiefer & Co. 1856, 171 pages. > > >From the preface the following: "The writer of the Tribute contained in > this work, had long desired to see from the Historical publications in > Pennsylvania, a vindication of the character and principles of the Irish and > Scotch early settlers of this great State and their descendants against > reproach, as well as aspersion, cast upon them in some modern publications > having pretensions to Historical accuracy...The writer, feeling as if the > sand of his Time glass was nearly run out, and that he ere long must be laid > aside from labor... has hastily thrown together in his leisure hours, taken > from other avocations, the remarks contained in the subsequent pages." > > Those other avocations are Dr. Foote's Sketches of North Carolina and > Virginia, Day's Historical collections, Dr. Smith's Old Redstone, Dr. > Alexander's Log College, Dr. Miller's Life of Dr. Rogers, Dr. Elliott's Life > of McCurdy and others, Craig's History of Pittsburgh, Hazard's Colonial > Records and Archives of Pennsylvania, and American Archives by Force and > Gordon's History of Pennsylvania, Mr Rupp's Histories of Lancaster, > Cumberland and Franklin counties. > > The style of writing and knowledge of early Presbyterian history indicates > the author may have been a member of the clergy*. There is a lot of detail > on the early members of the church as well as problems with the Indians and > the struggle over land rights during the westward expansion. The book reads > a bit like Prof. Hagy's thesis on the early frontier settlement at Castle's > Woods, Virginia and it is a combination of history, genealogy and geography. > *I have been told recently that Judge Chambers is the author of this work. > > Listed below are the other books and manuscripts previously offered to the various surname lists that are predominately Scotch-Irish: > > The Laggan and its Presbyterianism and In the Days of the Laggan Presbytery, > 1905,1908, by the Rev. Alexander Lecky, B.A., member of the Royal Sociey of > Antiquaries of Ireland, Belfast, Davidson & McCormack, 54 Kings St. 211 > pages > On our recent trip to Donegal we met J.B. Shannon, age 90, who assisted in > the 1975 reprinting of this book. He is the last living person who had > anything to do with these books and he says they are still the BEST source > for Ulster Presbyterian research. From Lecky I quote, "The lists of names of > former generations of Lagganeers, and their places of abode, that are given > in the Appendixes, and which NEVER before appeared in print, whilst they may > of necessity prove dull reading to those who have no acquaintance with the > locality, will not, I hope, be altogether uninteresting to those who bear the > same name, or live in the same places..." > > Fighters of Derry, Their Deeds and Descendants, being a Chronicle of Events > in Ireland during the Revolutionary period 1688-1691, by William Young, Eyre > and Spottiswoode, London, 350 pages. > One of the most difficult sources to locate, in fact almost impossible. > Months worth of reading and packed with great genealogy. Contains the > following biographical sketches: > 1. The leaders of the County Associations who, with their levies, took > part in the preliminary operations and contributed much of the man power for > the Defence. > 2. The Apprentice Boys and those responsible for shutting the gates on the > 8th Dec. 1688. > 3. The actual Defenders during the 105 day siege (over 1200 genealogical > sketches) > 4. Those engaged in the relief of the city > > A History of the Siege of Londonderry and Defense of Enniskillen in 1688 and > 1689, with Historical Poetry and Biographical notes, by the Rev. John Graham, > M.A. Rector of Magilligan in the Diocese of Derry. Includes the Battles of > the Boyne, Athlone, and Aughrim and the siege and Capitulation of Limmerick > by Lord McCaulay, Toronto, 1869 > The historical poems are family genealogies about those who were at Derry > and where they came from. Along with "Fighters of Derry" these two sources > contain more actual genealogical information than any others I have seen. > > Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Being More Particularly an Account of the > Family of Young of Culdaff with Short Accounts of Many Other Families > Connected with Them, by Amy Young, 1929, The Linenhall Press, Belfast, 311 > pages. > Some of the names included are Young, Hart, Harvey, Cary, Vaughan, > McLaughlin, Skipton, Richardson, Knox, Ussher, Smith, Nesbitt, Chichester, > Ball, Lawrence, Crofton, Boyd, Stuart and many others. > > The Laggan and its People, by S.M. Campbell, privately printed. > A look at the history of the Laggan (Presbyterian Derry/Donegal) through the > eyes of a local historian. Draws on local lore, Abercorn papers, records from > PRONI. > > The Tinkling Spring: Headwater of Freedom, A Study of the Church and Her > People, 1732-1952, by Howard McKnight Wilson, 1954, Fisherville, Virginia 542 > pages > The best source of information on the Scotch-Irish of Augusta/Rockbridge > Counties in Virginia. Includes the Baptismal Records of the Rev. Craig. > In-depth study of the early families of the Shenandoah Valley. > > Castle's Woods: Frontier Virginia Settlement, 1769-1799, a thesis presented > to the Faculty of the Department of History, East Tennessee State University > in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the Degree of master of Arts, > by James W. Hagy, 1966, 150 pages. > The most popular of the documents offered, this covers the families who > settled in Russell county, Virginia when it was considered the frontier. If > your ancestors came through southwestern Virginia, this document is the > history of your family. Contains information on specific families as well as > the farmers, speculators, artisans, and preachers who resided there. Lots on > the Indian battles that were a daily feature of life on the frontier. Names > like Russell, Walker, Porter, Cowan, Houston, Boone, Montgomery, Fraley, > Thompson, Anderson, Kilgore, and 50 or so other "Scotch-Irish" families make > this an invaluable resource for your family history. > > The Reverend Samuel Houston, V.D.M., by George West Diehl, 1970, McClure > Publishing Co. 125 pages > History of the early Virginia Presbyterians through the life of the Rev. > Samuel Houston, kin to Sam Houston of Texas fame. > > The Stirling Merchant Gild and Life of John Cowane, founder of Cowane's > Hospital in Stirling, by David B. Morris, Town Clerk, Stirling, Jamieson & > Munro, LTD. 1919, 367pages. > This is really two books in one. The first part deals with the Gild. Laws, > history, struggle with Unfreemen and with the Crafts, Administration, > Merchandising, Conditions of entry, etc. and the second part which is about > the life of John Cowane, Dean of the Gild and his contributions to it. > > Well there you have it. The best documents I have found. If you are > interested in purchasing any of the above items (I would like to make copies > for free but I can't) > contact me at cscunc@aol.com for details. > > Regards, > Robert Cowan > 525 Harrogate Rd. > Matthews, North Carolina 28105 > >

It is only on rare occasions that I add a book to the list of "must haves" for the study of Scotch-Irish genealogy. This one is for our friends with Pennsylvania connections and it is certainly a rare item. Published in 1856 "by a descendant" it is titled: "A Tribute to the Principles, Virtues, Habits and Public Usefulness of the Irish and Scotch Early Settlers of Pennsylvania," Chambersburg, Pa., Printed by M. Kiefer & Co. 1856, 171 pages. >From the preface the following: "The writer of the Tribute contained in this work, had long desired to see from the Historical publications in Pennsylvania, a vindication of the character and principles of the Irish and Scotch early settlers of this great State and their descendants against reproach, as well as aspersion, cast upon them in some modern publications having pretensions to Historical accuracy...The writer, feeling as if the sand of his Time glass was nearly run out, and that he ere long must be laid aside from labor... has hastily thrown together in his leisure hours, taken from other avocations, the remarks contained in the subsequent pages." Those other avocations are Dr. Foote's Sketches of North Carolina and Virginia, Day's Historical collections, Dr. Smith's Old Redstone, Dr. Alexander's Log College, Dr. Miller's Life of Dr. Rogers, Dr. Elliott's Life of McCurdy and others, Craig's History of Pittsburgh, Hazard's Colonial Records and Archives of Pennsylvania, and American Archives by Force and Gordon's History of Pennsylvania, Mr Rupp's Histories of Lancaster, Cumberland and Franklin counties. The style of writing and knowledge of early Presbyterian history indicates the author may have been a member of the clergy*. There is a lot of detail on the early members of the church as well as problems with the Indians and the struggle over land rights during the westward expansion. The book reads a bit like Prof. Hagy's thesis on the early frontier settlement at Castle's Woods, Virginia and it is a combination of history, genealogy and geography. *I have been told recently that Judge Chambers is the author of this work. Listed below are the other books and manuscripts previously offered to the various surname lists that are predominately Scotch-Irish: The Laggan and its Presbyterianism and In the Days of the Laggan Presbytery, 1905,1908, by the Rev. Alexander Lecky, B.A., member of the Royal Sociey of Antiquaries of Ireland, Belfast, Davidson & McCormack, 54 Kings St. 211 pages On our recent trip to Donegal we met J.B. Shannon, age 90, who assisted in the 1975 reprinting of this book. He is the last living person who had anything to do with these books and he says they are still the BEST source for Ulster Presbyterian research. From Lecky I quote, "The lists of names of former generations of Lagganeers, and their places of abode, that are given in the Appendixes, and which NEVER before appeared in print, whilst they may of necessity prove dull reading to those who have no acquaintance with the locality, will not, I hope, be altogether uninteresting to those who bear the same name, or live in the same places..." Fighters of Derry, Their Deeds and Descendants, being a Chronicle of Events in Ireland during the Revolutionary period 1688-1691, by William Young, Eyre and Spottiswoode, London, 350 pages. One of the most difficult sources to locate, in fact almost impossible. Months worth of reading and packed with great genealogy. Contains the following biographical sketches: 1. The leaders of the County Associations who, with their levies, took part in the preliminary operations and contributed much of the man power for the Defence. 2. The Apprentice Boys and those responsible for shutting the gates on the 8th Dec. 1688. 3. The actual Defenders during the 105 day siege (over 1200 genealogical sketches) 4. Those engaged in the relief of the city A History of the Siege of Londonderry and Defense of Enniskillen in 1688 and 1689, with Historical Poetry and Biographical notes, by the Rev. John Graham, M.A. Rector of Magilligan in the Diocese of Derry. Includes the Battles of the Boyne, Athlone, and Aughrim and the siege and Capitulation of Limmerick by Lord McCaulay, Toronto, 1869 The historical poems are family genealogies about those who were at Derry and where they came from. Along with "Fighters of Derry" these two sources contain more actual genealogical information than any others I have seen. Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Being More Particularly an Account of the Family of Young of Culdaff with Short Accounts of Many Other Families Connected with Them, by Amy Young, 1929, The Linenhall Press, Belfast, 311 pages. Some of the names included are Young, Hart, Harvey, Cary, Vaughan, McLaughlin, Skipton, Richardson, Knox, Ussher, Smith, Nesbitt, Chichester, Ball, Lawrence, Crofton, Boyd, Stuart and many others. The Laggan and its People, by S.M. Campbell, privately printed. A look at the history of the Laggan (Presbyterian Derry/Donegal) through the eyes of a local historian. Draws on local lore, Abercorn papers, records from PRONI. The Tinkling Spring: Headwater of Freedom, A Study of the Church and Her People, 1732-1952, by Howard McKnight Wilson, 1954, Fisherville, Virginia 542 pages The best source of information on the Scotch-Irish of Augusta/Rockbridge Counties in Virginia. Includes the Baptismal Records of the Rev. Craig. In-depth study of the early families of the Shenandoah Valley. Castle's Woods: Frontier Virginia Settlement, 1769-1799, a thesis presented to the Faculty of the Department of History, East Tennessee State University in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the Degree of master of Arts, by James W. Hagy, 1966, 150 pages. The most popular of the documents offered, this covers the families who settled in Russell county, Virginia when it was considered the frontier. If your ancestors came through southwestern Virginia, this document is the history of your family. Contains information on specific families as well as the farmers, speculators, artisans, and preachers who resided there. Lots on the Indian battles that were a daily feature of life on the frontier. Names like Russell, Walker, Porter, Cowan, Houston, Boone, Montgomery, Fraley, Thompson, Anderson, Kilgore, and 50 or so other "Scotch-Irish" families make this an invaluable resource for your family history. The Reverend Samuel Houston, V.D.M., by George West Diehl, 1970, McClure Publishing Co. 125 pages History of the early Virginia Presbyterians through the life of the Rev. Samuel Houston, kin to Sam Houston of Texas fame. The Stirling Merchant Gild and Life of John Cowane, founder of Cowane's Hospital in Stirling, by David B. Morris, Town Clerk, Stirling, Jamieson & Munro, LTD. 1919, 367pages. This is really two books in one. The first part deals with the Gild. Laws, history, struggle with Unfreemen and with the Crafts, Administration, Merchandising, Conditions of entry, etc. and the second part which is about the life of John Cowane, Dean of the Gild and his contributions to it. Well there you have it. The best documents I have found. If you are interested in purchasing any of the above items (I would like to make copies for free but I can't) contact me at cscunc@aol.com for details. Regards, Robert Cowan 525 Harrogate Rd. Matthews, North Carolina 28105

Posting lists is a great idea. Here is another: MAXWELLS SAIL FOR AMERICA A. The following listed names have been taken from Filby & Meyer, 1981, Vol 2, H to N. The listing shows Name, age, destination, arrival, code # and page. The code # and page refers to original source, Phila. Courthouse Records. Maxwell, Mrs. na Boston, MA 1765 9750p39 Maxwell, Alexander na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, Alexander na New England 1651 269p16 Maxwell, Alexander na New England 1652 702p159 Maxwell, Alex'dr 10 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p48 Maxwell, Ann na Pennsylvania 1771 7207p12&32 Maxwell, David 19 Georgia 1775 2128p172 Maxwell, David 34 New York, NY 1774 1088p37 Maxwell, James na Philadelphia 1798 9302p102 Maxwell, Jane 28 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p48 Maxwell, Janet 20 New York, NY 1775 1088p73 Maxwell, Jean 32 New York, NY 1774 1088p40 Maxwell, Jno. na Boston, MA 1764 9750p36 Maxwell, John na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, John na Charleston, SC 1796 8965p126 Maxwell, John na Philadelphia 1798 9302p103 Maxwell, John na Virginia 1740 2302p227 Maxwell, John 02 New York, NY 1774 1088p40 Maxwell, John 08 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p48 Maxwell, John 25 Maryland 1775 2128p157 Maxwell, John 25 Maryland 1775 9151p381 Maxwell, John 32 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p47 Maxwell, John Jr. na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, Margaret na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, Margt 24 New York, NY 1775 1088p73 Maxwell, Marie 21 St. Christopher (?) 1635 3283p136 Maxwell, Marion 08 New York, NY 1774 1088p37 Maxwell, Martha 11 New York, NY 1775 1088p73 Maxwell, Mary na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, Nicholas 05 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p48 Maxwell, Peter 35 Tobago, W.I. 1774 2128p89 Maxwell, Primrose na Georgia nd 1322p88 Maxwell, Robert 12 Charlestown, SC 1765 7343p48 Maxwell, Robert 18 Carolina 1774 2128p106 Maxwell, Robert 50 New York, NY 1775 1088p73 Maxwell, Sarah 17 New York, NY 1775 1088p73 Maxwell, Thomas na America (?) 1771 1222p90&182 Maxwell, Thomas na Augusta Co., VA 1740 3816p47&456 Maxwell, Thomas na Barbados, W.I. 1680 3283p481 Maxwell, William na Maryland 1739 9725p58 Maxwell, William na Virginia or Jamaica 1716 8690p31 Maxwell, William na Barbados, W.I. 1680 3283p448 Maxwell, Wm. na Boston, MA 1767 9750p69 B. Another source for some Maxwell immigrants is "Scottish Emigrants to the USA" by Donald Whyte, Magna Carta Book Co., Baltimore, MD, 1972. Maxwell, David 34 New York, NY 1774 This book confirms data shown above. Wife was Jean McGarvin and ch. Marion (8) & John (2). He was a tailor of Galloway, Wigonshire. Maxwell, James and John and William (bros.) 1767 or earlier They settled in Chatham Co., Georgia, as planters. John had wife, Mary, and four sons and two daughters. Maxwell, James na Emigrated before 1784 Maxwell, Robert 18 Carolina 1774 a clerk. Maxwell, Robert 50 New York, NY 1775 a weaver Wife, Martha Carnochan, and four daus., aged 24, 20, 17 and 11. Maxwell, William na Virginia 1716 he was a Jacobite prisoner, transported on ship Elizabeth & Anne. Maxwell, William na Emigrated ca. 1750 Maxwell, William na From Paisley, Renfrewshire CA 1790 C. "Maxwell Family History" -1978 by Heritage Press, Inc., Washington, DC, lists the following Maxwell immigrants, in addition to those already listed above Maxwell, Bezaleel 17 Lancaster Co., PA 1725 moved to VA Maxwell, Jane na Virginia ca.1664 Maxwell, John 46 Sussex Co., NJ 1747 wife: Ann ---- D. Four brothers came to America , taken from an 1853 letter written by Hugh Maxwell: Maxwell, Archibald 9 Philadelphia, PA 1790 Brig "Brothers" Maxwell, Hugh 13 same 1790 same Maxwell, James c15 Philadelphia 1799 ship unknown Maxwell, Robert 17 Philadelphia 1799 ship unknown Wilmer Maxwell Carlisle, PA

The information and the relationship on DNA connection is very interesting. If in your research of Henry and Nathaniel you come across a sister named Agnus, please let me know. Agnus (Nancy) Maxwell married John Blackburn abt. 1745 and lived in York County, Pa. I have found a little information on John (not proved), but none on Agnus except the number of her children and where she died (Butler Cty.,Ohio). She has been a brick wall. Jack Heine New Mexico

Josette -- Thanks for posting the tax lists. Do you have any of this info for the Philadelphia area? Mike ====================================== Michael R. Maxwell, Ph.D. University of California, San Diego mrmaxwell@ucsd.edu ======================================

Eighty, and still with fire and a clear head, Thanks Wilmer for telling it like it is. New ideas and thoughts are what founded this great land. I think the DNA is very useful now and in the future, Larry W. Maxwell Pensacola, Florida Home: maxhouse@netzero.net Work: maxwelllw@pwcpens.navy.mil ----- Original Message ----- From: <GenieMax@aol.com> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Maxwell/Carson connections > What has this genealogy site come to???????!!!!!!!?????? > I am Dr. Don Maxwell's partner in the DNA website; he does not need me to run > interference for him, but I definitely feel an obligation to clear the air. > > False statements need to be corrected: > > 1. We never asked or even implied that any person should abstain from taking > a part in the discussions on this bulletin board. > > 2. The webmaster has not asked us to "only report the URL of our DNA page." > > 3. Our recent statement started off with a question," Did Agnes Carson have > a younger sister named Esther?' We are looking for assistance from the > readers to prove or disprove a theory. This is exactly what a bulletin > board is meant to do. > > 4. In a few months, I will be eighty (men brag about age after a certain > point, women never do!) and my great-great grandfather was born in County > Down in 1770. That is five generations in 232 years, seven generations > could very easily take me back to the early 1700s. > > 5. 25/25 loci match in Y-chromosome means there IS A CLOSE > RELATIONSHIP. And with Henry and Nathaniel, it would not be on > the maternal side with Y-chromosome.. They may be brothers, they may not be > brothers...that is what we are trying to determine. There is insufficient > age differential to be father and son, so that probably leaves first cousins > as the best probability. > > 6. Our DNA website has now drawn about 2500 hits, and we appreciate every > single one of them. Genealogy "seekers" are very interested. If a person > has no interest, fine....let it rest at that! > > Wilmer Maxwell, Carlisle, PA > > >

What has this genealogy site come to???????!!!!!!!?????? I am Dr. Don Maxwell's partner in the DNA website; he does not need me to run interference for him, but I definitely feel an obligation to clear the air. False statements need to be corrected: 1. We never asked or even implied that any person should abstain from taking a part in the discussions on this bulletin board. 2. The webmaster has not asked us to "only report the URL of our DNA page." 3. Our recent statement started off with a question," Did Agnes Carson have a younger sister named Esther?' We are looking for assistance from the readers to prove or disprove a theory. This is exactly what a bulletin board is meant to do. 4. In a few months, I will be eighty (men brag about age after a certain point, women never do!) and my great-great grandfather was born in County Down in 1770. That is five generations in 232 years, seven generations could very easily take me back to the early 1700s. 5. 25/25 loci match in Y-chromosome means there IS A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP. And with Henry and Nathaniel, it would not be on the maternal side with Y-chromosome.. They may be brothers, they may not be brothers...that is what we are trying to determine. There is insufficient age differential to be father and son, so that probably leaves first cousins as the best probability. 6. Our DNA website has now drawn about 2500 hits, and we appreciate every single one of them. Genealogy "seekers" are very interested. If a person has no interest, fine....let it rest at that! Wilmer Maxwell, Carlisle, PA

Don, Thanks for posting "this DNA stuff," I find the 25/25 results very exciting, if not proof positive of the exact relationship between Henry and Nathaniel. I appreciate your occasional posts on this subject and am astonished others do not. Really, lighten up folks. This is the 21st century, after all. Josette, Thanks for the update on Esther Carson's "proven" father, would you care to share other substantive information on her and that Carson line? What documentation was used to establish Patrick as her father? Have you noted any progress in Nathaniel's parentage? I'd appreciate anything more you have on these lines and apologize if the info is now common knowledge, I've not been able to devote much time to gen activities. Also, can you explain what you mean by, "... seven generations doesn't equate before 1800."? I count 6 generations from me back to Nathaniel. Thanks again to both of you for your fine work. Nathan Osborn Maxwell Baily http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~baily/ Nathaniel>>William>>Nathaniel Carson>>Albert>>Nathaniel Chester>>Sara Maxwell>>me

Thanks, Don this should be very helpful for those who believe in new idea's. Just remember before the internet how hard it was to do this type research. Who would of ever thought a computer could help research our family lines. My grandfather never believed men walked on the moon, go figure.....................from the time of Adam to the early 1900's men walked, sailed, rode an animal, now me are walking on the moon waving the flag. Any Maxwell's searching Rev. Thomas Maxwell and Mary Pemberton with data to share, please post your line and I'll get in touch Larry Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Maxwell" <dmaxwelljr@hotmail.com> To: <MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: [MAXWELL-L] Henry b1730 and Nathanial Maxwell b1741 related? > Did Agnes CARSON have a younger sister named Esther CARSON (or was she a > neice as some have proposed)?????? > > If anyone can prove or disprove this, please reply. > > If they were sisters, then it helps prove our assumption that these two > CARSON sisters > were married to two MAXWELL brothers. > > Recent DNA results indicate that Henry MAXWELL and Nathaniel MAXWELL are > very > closely related. Since their estimated birthdates are just eleven years > apart, they could > be brothers. > And since they both had wives named CARSON, it would indicate that two > brothers in > one family married two sisters in another family....a very common practice > in the 1700s > and 1800s. > What leads to this conclusion? > In the MAXWELL FAMILY DNA STUDY, a living male descendant from each of the > above couples (Henry Maxwell m. Agnes Carson and Nathanial Maxwell m. Esther > Carson) provided DNA samples. These two Y-chromosome samples matched > exactly for the first 12 markers (loci). An additional analysis (refined > "high resolution" test)was made and the two > samples also matched exactly on a 25-marker test. > FamilyTreeMakerDNA statistical studies show that these two donors are > certainly related > and that they share a common ancestor in the past seven (probability 50%) > generations. > In other words, Henry and Nathaniel could be brothers and their father (name > unknown > through standard genealogical processes) could be the common ancestor. > > This is new and exciting inofrmation as both of these lines seem to be at > and "brickwall" and have been thoroughly researched and revisited many times > over the years! > Both FTDNA and the Maxwell DNA Study have the policy of not releasing the > name > of DNA donors, however, the DNA scores can be released with a coded donor > number. > Please visit our website, and your comments on the above are invited. > > http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html > > Additional info: As of this date we have not had a UNEXPECTED 25/25 match in > the Maxwell DNA study...till now. We have had 25/25 matches in > genealogically proven lines to verify the reliability of the lab and the > results. > > Don Maxwell > > > > > Donald Power Maxwell, Jr., M.D. > 18700 Wolf Creek Dr > Edmond, Okla 73003 > 405-216-0219 > > MAXWELL DNA website: > http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html > THOMAS MAXWELL (1738-1785 Pa) website: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I06 187 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >

We may as well let the DNA boys have this site... Like they have already told me to stay off of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, I do!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Josette L. Maxwell To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 1996 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [MAXWELL-L] Henry b1730 and Nathanial Maxwell b1741 related? A common ancestor could be either on the mother's or father's side. There could be two sisters who married unrelated men. It would be impossible to establish any kind of relationship between the men based on them having married sisters. It has been proven for quite some time (documents and records) that the Esther Carson who married Nathaniel Maxwell was the daughter of Patrick Carson of Chester Ct. PA. There is nothing that establishes the date of Henry Maxwell's birth! Or that he married his first cousin. I do now know that Walter and Agness Carson arrived in the US by 1728 at least. I also can prove that Walter Carson was related to Samuel Carson of Londongrove Chester Ct. PA It is possible that Henry was related to Robert Maxwell to whose will he was a witness in, if I remember correctly, 1760s Lancaster Ct. PA. A number of the children of Robert have the same names as those of Henry. The probability is 50 percent that they shared a common last name unknown ancestor seven generations ago as a basis for suggesting kinship of Nathaniel and Henry - stuff and nonsense. I thought it was agreed that you would not use the Maxwell email list for this DNA stuff other than to announce where your website can be found. And, by the way, seven generations doesn't equate before 1800. 1st b. 1730, married 1751 2nd b. 1752 married 1773 3rd b. 1774 married 1795 4th b. 1796 married 1817 5th b. 1818 married 1839 6th b. 1840 married 1862 7th b. 1863 married 1884 Elapsed time is 273 years 1730 to 2003; elapsed time earliest possible illustrated above is 133 years, assuming marriage at age 21 which is quite reasonable. . Whether Henry Maxwell had sibblings or not is something that is extremely unlikely to be proven or disproven. There just aren't records or documents. The best lead is to get Walter Carson back to Ireland and establish his relationship with the Maxwell family there, if any. Walter and Agness Carson did have four children which have been documented plus a fifth highly likely. Josette Maxwell Boone NC . At 11:47 AM 1/27/03 -0600, you wrote: >Did Agnes CARSON have a younger sister named Esther CARSON (or was she a >neice as some have proposed)?????? > >If anyone can prove or disprove this, please reply. > >If they were sisters, then it helps prove our assumption that these two >CARSON sisters >were married to two MAXWELL brothers. > >Recent DNA results indicate that Henry MAXWELL and Nathaniel MAXWELL are very >closely related. Since their estimated birthdates are just eleven years >apart, they could >be brothers. >And since they both had wives named CARSON, it would indicate that two >brothers in >one family married two sisters in another family....a very common practice >in the 1700s >and 1800s. >What leads to this conclusion? >In the MAXWELL FAMILY DNA STUDY, a living male descendant from each of the >above couples (Henry Maxwell m. Agnes Carson and Nathanial Maxwell m. >Esther Carson) provided DNA samples. These two Y-chromosome samples matched >exactly for the first 12 markers (loci). An additional analysis (refined >"high resolution" test)was made and the two >samples also matched exactly on a 25-marker test. >FamilyTreeMakerDNA statistical studies show that these two donors are >certainly related >and that they share a common ancestor in the past seven (probability 50%) >generations. >In other words, Henry and Nathaniel could be brothers and their father >(name unknown >through standard genealogical processes) could be the common ancestor. > >This is new and exciting inofrmation as both of these lines seem to be at >and "brickwall" and have been thoroughly researched and revisited many >times over the years! >Both FTDNA and the Maxwell DNA Study have the policy of not releasing the name >of DNA donors, however, the DNA scores can be released with a coded >donor number. >Please visit our website, and your comments on the above are invited. > >http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html > >Additional info: As of this date we have not had a UNEXPECTED 25/25 match >in the Maxwell DNA study...till now. We have had 25/25 matches in >genealogically proven lines to verify the reliability of the lab and the >results. > >Don Maxwell > > > > >Donald Power Maxwell, Jr., M.D. >18700 Wolf Creek Dr >Edmond, Okla 73003 >405-216-0219 > >MAXWELL DNA website: >http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html >THOMAS MAXWELL (1738-1785 Pa) website: >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I06187 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Did Agnes CARSON have a younger sister named Esther CARSON (or was she a neice as some have proposed)?????? If anyone can prove or disprove this, please reply. If they were sisters, then it helps prove our assumption that these two CARSON sisters were married to two MAXWELL brothers. Recent DNA results indicate that Henry MAXWELL and Nathaniel MAXWELL are very closely related. Since their estimated birthdates are just eleven years apart, they could be brothers. And since they both had wives named CARSON, it would indicate that two brothers in one family married two sisters in another family....a very common practice in the 1700s and 1800s. What leads to this conclusion? In the MAXWELL FAMILY DNA STUDY, a living male descendant from each of the above couples (Henry Maxwell m. Agnes Carson and Nathanial Maxwell m. Esther Carson) provided DNA samples. These two Y-chromosome samples matched exactly for the first 12 markers (loci). An additional analysis (refined "high resolution" test)was made and the two samples also matched exactly on a 25-marker test. FamilyTreeMakerDNA statistical studies show that these two donors are certainly related and that they share a common ancestor in the past seven (probability 50%) generations. In other words, Henry and Nathaniel could be brothers and their father (name unknown through standard genealogical processes) could be the common ancestor. This is new and exciting inofrmation as both of these lines seem to be at and "brickwall" and have been thoroughly researched and revisited many times over the years! Both FTDNA and the Maxwell DNA Study have the policy of not releasing the name of DNA donors, however, the DNA scores can be released with a coded donor number. Please visit our website, and your comments on the above are invited. http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html Additional info: As of this date we have not had a UNEXPECTED 25/25 match in the Maxwell DNA study...till now. We have had 25/25 matches in genealogically proven lines to verify the reliability of the lab and the results. Don Maxwell Donald Power Maxwell, Jr., M.D. 18700 Wolf Creek Dr Edmond, Okla 73003 405-216-0219 MAXWELL DNA website: http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html THOMAS MAXWELL (1738-1785 Pa) website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I06187 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Saw this item on ebay last night and thought there might be a Maxwell interested in it. Item #2907397937 Maxwell History and Genealogy by Houston 1st edition

John, It is true that there is not a Maxwell caot of arms, but there is a Maxwell crest and you can find it at www.scotclans.com/clans/cmaxwell.htm. David John wrote: >Hello I am looking for the MAXWELL coat of arms. >Thank you for any help. >John-Robert Tremblay > > >. > > >

Most of those Presbyterian Scots who were on the wrong side of a war were not asked to leave. Many were given the choice of leaving or the headsman's axe! It's no wonder the Scots and Irish despise the endlish to this day! Most of Washington's army was Scots and Scots Irish. All the men at Valley Forge were Scots Irish. We could not have won the war without them If you have Scots/Irish blood, BE PROUD! Earl H Taylor eht2060@keyway.net (909)593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: Gene Phillips [mailto:gnphllps@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 6:02 PM To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAXWELL-L] COAT OF ARMS Maxwell is a lowland Scottish name. The way it got to Ireland was during the time of Lord Cromwell when various troublemaking (against England) were offered land in Ireland if they would move there. Only problem is that they forgot to ask the Irish permission. Most of these Scottish immigrants were of the Presbyterian Church which had broke away from the Church of England. The Irish were Catholics. This led to strife which continues today. Some of these families only stayed a few generations in Ireland, when they immigrated to the American Colonies in the early 18th century when they were known as Scotch-Irish. Among these are many of my ancestors, Maxwell, Armstrong, Caldwell, Sharp. Another famous, or infamous Scotch-Irish family depending on your political leanings was the Kennedy Clan. That's the story, more or less. Even though Coat of Arms were personal, Tartans were connected to Clans. For examples of Maxwell Tartans go to http://www.electricscotland.com/tartans/index.htm and put the name you are interesting in the search engine. Gene 11:53 AM 12/21/02, you wrote: >I was just looking for a picture for a young girl who is starting into >genealogy. >Her family name is Maxwell Either Irish or Scottish. >Thank you for any help. >John-Robert Tremblay > >Larry Thompson wrote: > > > John: > > There is no such thing as a "Maxwell coat of arms". People by the name > > of Maxwell may have registered a coat of arms, but that belongs to that > > person. > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > Hello I am looking for the MAXWELL coat of arms. > > > Thank you for any help. > > > John-Robert Tremblay > > > > -- > > Larry Thompson > > My genealogy page > > http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html > > My Allegheny Co. maps page > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lt0168/maps/

Maxwell is a lowland Scottish name. The way it got to Ireland was during the time of Lord Cromwell when various troublemaking (against England) were offered land in Ireland if they would move there. Only problem is that they forgot to ask the Irish permission. Most of these Scottish immigrants were of the Presbyterian Church which had broke away from the Church of England. The Irish were Catholics. This led to strife which continues today. Some of these families only stayed a few generations in Ireland, when they immigrated to the American Colonies in the early 18th century when they were known as Scotch-Irish. Among these are many of my ancestors, Maxwell, Armstrong, Caldwell, Sharp. Another famous, or infamous Scotch-Irish family depending on your political leanings was the Kennedy Clan. That's the story, more or less. Even though Coat of Arms were personal, Tartans were connected to Clans. For examples of Maxwell Tartans go to http://www.electricscotland.com/tartans/index.htm and put the name you are interesting in the search engine. Gene 11:53 AM 12/21/02, you wrote: >I was just looking for a picture for a young girl who is starting into >genealogy. >Her family name is Maxwell Either Irish or Scottish. >Thank you for any help. >John-Robert Tremblay > >Larry Thompson wrote: > > > John: > > There is no such thing as a "Maxwell coat of arms". People by the name > > of Maxwell may have registered a coat of arms, but that belongs to that > > person. > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > Hello I am looking for the MAXWELL coat of arms. > > > Thank you for any help. > > > John-Robert Tremblay > > > > -- > > Larry Thompson > > My genealogy page > > http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html > > My Allegheny Co. maps page > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lt0168/maps/

All who care; Watch for the newspaper to have nes about "The Highland Games" which are held several times a year all over the US. Attend (it takes all day) and learn about Scots and Irish and Coats of Arms and Tartans.You will be glad you did. I have Maxwell, Elliott, Blackburn, Barnard,Taylor, Gordon, and many more clans. I am descended from about half the Scottish Clans Earl H Taylor eht2060@keyway.net (909)593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: Gene Phillips [mailto:gnphllps@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 6:02 PM To: MAXWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAXWELL-L] COAT OF ARMS Maxwell is a lowland Scottish name. The way it got to Ireland was during the time of Lord Cromwell when various troublemaking (against England) were offered land in Ireland if they would move there. Only problem is that they forgot to ask the Irish permission. Most of these Scottish immigrants were of the Presbyterian Church which had broke away from the Church of England. The Irish were Catholics. This led to strife which continues today. Some of these families only stayed a few generations in Ireland, when they immigrated to the American Colonies in the early 18th century when they were known as Scotch-Irish. Among these are many of my ancestors, Maxwell, Armstrong, Caldwell, Sharp. Another famous, or infamous Scotch-Irish family depending on your political leanings was the Kennedy Clan. That's the story, more or less. Even though Coat of Arms were personal, Tartans were connected to Clans. For examples of Maxwell Tartans go to http://www.electricscotland.com/tartans/index.htm and put the name you are interesting in the search engine. Gene 11:53 AM 12/21/02, you wrote: >I was just looking for a picture for a young girl who is starting into >genealogy. >Her family name is Maxwell Either Irish or Scottish. >Thank you for any help. >John-Robert Tremblay > >Larry Thompson wrote: > > > John: > > There is no such thing as a "Maxwell coat of arms". People by the name > > of Maxwell may have registered a coat of arms, but that belongs to that > > person. > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > Hello I am looking for the MAXWELL coat of arms. > > > Thank you for any help. > > > John-Robert Tremblay > > > > -- > > Larry Thompson > > My genealogy page > > http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html > > My Allegheny Co. maps page > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lt0168/maps/

I was just looking for a picture for a young girl who is starting into genealogy. Her family name is Maxwell Either Irish or Scottish. Thank you for any help. John-Robert Tremblay Larry Thompson wrote: > John: > There is no such thing as a "Maxwell coat of arms". People by the name > of Maxwell may have registered a coat of arms, but that belongs to that > person. > > John wrote: > > > > Hello I am looking for the MAXWELL coat of arms. > > Thank you for any help. > > John-Robert Tremblay > > -- > Larry Thompson > My genealogy page > http://www.epix.net/~lt0168/index.html > My Allegheny Co. maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lt0168/maps/