Good morning, Roger. You are fortunate that Massachusetts is probably the most genealogically friendly state in the U.S. And, thanks to the New England Historic Genealogical Society working the the State Archives, there is a wealth of vital records available online. James Brown is a very common name. I checked for all deaths between 1880 and 1900 in Worcester County. There were three who died in the town of Worcester, but one was born in the state of Maine and I have not listed him. The other two, while not born in England, were born in the U.K. and I list their records. 1. James Brown, Sept. 4, 1898, married, a. 65, Brights Disease, janitor, b. Ireland to Michael & Jane Brown, both b. Ireland. 2. James G. (C. ?) Brown, Sept. 25, 1893, married, a. 73, Cystitis & dysentery, machinist, b. Scotland to James, b. Scotland, & Jennie Crawford, b. Ireland. There were about 20 deaths of a James Brown in Worcester County in that 21 year span. If neither of these is your wife's ancestor, perhaps you could provide a litte more info and another lookup could be done. If you have James' birth date, that would help the researcher doing a lookup to winnow out those that don't fit. Also, are you sure of his place of birth being England rather than Ireland or Scotland as the two above. Good luck. :-) John & Jodi Massachusetts Vital Records Administrators - http://MA-VitalRecords.org If you find this site of value - http://MA-VitalRecords.org/Donate.html Quoting Roger Davies <roger.davies55@virgin.net>: > Good morning list from England. > > I have found what I thin is my wife's ancestor James Brown age 40 > born England in the 1880 census working as a machinist and bording > at 114 Lafayette St, Worcester. I cannot see him in 1900. Can > anyone suggest where I might look for a death record? > > Thanks > > Roger > > ps - I am happy to do UK census lookups for the list > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 255 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dora - I've never done research there, but maybe you could check out the www.raogk.org site to see if there is a researcher who can go to that court, look at the probate file, and see how many pages are there? Then you can send in the correct amount of money. I hope you can find someone willing to help you out. Good luck, Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> > This is concerns Norfolk County, but people on this list are a whole lot > more active. > > Norfolk County probate court wants us to send a check for not over some > amount to cover cost of photocopying a probate file of an Azorean > fisherman in Cohasset who died in 1885, without a will, leaving a widow > (of Azorean parents) and one minor child aged 16, and who from the census > may have owned a house on that hunk of exposed rock on the edge of > Cohasset by the harbor where the Portuguese people lived. Could also > have owned a fishing boat. Cost of copying is a dollar a page. They > don't do refunds and they don't do electronic payment. They only do > checks made out for not above a certain amount. > > Court clerk suggested $25 but I wonder if it's really likely to be that > much. How much do you think? > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > tiggernut24@yahoo.com >

Wondering if anyone else has experienced trouble opening files in the Mass City Directories? I keep getting "ERROR PROCESSING IMAGE" I received a message from Ancestry.com saying that they have had some difficulties and were in the process of repair? Maybe this is one of those problems? Or.....maybe it's me? Fred

This is concerns Norfolk County, but people on this list are a whole lot more active. Norfolk County probate court wants us to send a check for not over some amount to cover cost of photocopying a probate file of an Azorean fisherman in Cohasset who died in 1885, without a will, leaving a widow (of Azorean parents) and one minor child aged 16, and who from the census may have owned a house on that hunk of exposed rock on the edge of Cohasset by the harbor where the Portuguese people lived. Could also have owned a fishing boat. Cost of copying is a dollar a page. They don't do refunds and they don't do electronic payment. They only do checks made out for not above a certain amount. Court clerk suggested $25 but I wonder if it's really likely to be that much. How much do you think? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com

I see your problem. Suggest trying to find his Commission in Congressional records or any files in NARA. Appears he died early so no pension. Wid. Martha remarried 1780. No death records found so far. Not unusual for short enlistments in various outfits. Are you certain of death date?Volume 12page 283Phelps, Edward, Leominster.Lieutenant, Capt. Joshua Wood's co. of militia, which marched on the alarm of April 19, 1775, to Cambridge; service, 14 days.Volume 12page 283Phelps, Edward, Leominster.Private, Capt. Peter Woodbury's co., Col. Jacob Gerrish's regt. of guards; enlisted July 12, 1778; discharged Nov. 9, 1778; service, 3 mos. 29 days, at Cambridge; roll certified at Lancaster; also, Capt. Peter Woodbury's co., Lieut. Col. Nathan Tyler's detachment of guards; list of men [year not given]; during the campaign Capt. Woodbury was succeeded by Lieut. Jewett; also, Capt. David Jewett's co., Col. Gerrish's regt. of guards; enlisted Nov. 10, 1778; discharged Dec. 12, 1778; servi! ce, 1 mo. 5 days, guarding troops of convention; roll certified at Lancaster; also, Capt. Jonathan Sibley's co., Col. Luke Drury's regt.; entered service July 29, 1781; marched Aug. 1, 1781; arrived at camp Aug. 11, 1781; discharged Nov. 10, 1781; service, 3 mos. 23 days, including 10 days (200 miles) travel home; residence, Leominster; engaged for town of Leominster; regiment raised for 3 months.Volume 12page 283Phelps, Edward.2d Lieutenant, Capt. Nathaniel White's co., Col. Willys's regt.; list of officers; commissioned Feb. 23, 1776.

This appears to be only other Edward Phelps in Leominster. Edward Sr. married twice. First wife Martha Tarbell and second one 1765 Martha Farnsworth. Marriages and other records seem to be spread in duplicate in Groton, Harvard and Leominster. If Edward Jr possibly old enough to be in the revolutionary war but not likely nor likely he would be an officer.1762 PHELPS Edward, s. Edward and Martha, Sept. 25, 1762. Birth Leominster

>From the book titled, page 641 Benjamin2 (Robert1) FITTS, m. Sarah RICH, Oct 31, 1749; m. 2d Mary COOK, Oct 19, 1762. Ch--- 1, Sarah, b. 3 Aug 1750; 2, Daniel, b. 14 Apr 1753; m. Chloe WHITE, 9 Apr 1778; 3, Walter, b. 4 Apr 1755; 4, Robert, b. 27 Mar 1757; 5, Edward, b. 10 Feb 1759; 6, Eunice, b. 22 Dec 1763; 7, Jonathan, b. 3 Apr 1764; 8, Molly, b. 10 Mar 1765; 9, Huldah, b. 13 Jun 1766; 10, David, b. 3 Oct 1767; 11, Benjamin, b. 21 Jul 1769.

Dora, I find your question very interesting. My family is a long time resident of new england - arriving in the 1600s. And they are dark skinned, black or near-black hair, and brown eyes. My ggrandfather fought for the Confederacy (he was from Maine). He was captured at Petersburg in 1864/5 while serving with G. Lee. The write-up in his civil war record said that he was 5 ft 4 in, dark skinned, had black hair and brown eyes. My aunt who lived to be 100 told me of walking with him in a 4th of July parade - she was six and he wore his Confederate uniform. She was very embarrassed as she felt that he had been on the "wrong side". I used to ask my family when i was young why they were all dark and they told me that many people of English descent were dark. (I personally think that they intermarried with native americans - but I could be wrong - these "indian" marriages seem to be hard to find.) They lived in N. Governadale CT. My husband's mother was a Hubbard and I think she was descended from George Hubbard - does that make him and you distant cousins? I am a John Alden descendant on my mother's side and a descendant of a German man killed by Indians in 1792 in the Ohio Valley on my father's side; that side of the family intermarried with the Dutch from New York, Barbara -----Original Message----- >From: Susan Hedeen <chantillycarpets@earthlink.net> >Sent: Jan 13, 2009 11:33 AM >To: Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> >Cc: mamiddle@rootsweb.com, MAWorces@rootsweb.com, rice@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MAWORCES] Which of these old New England lines had dark skin and hair? > >Dora--not related, but will try to muddle you a bit. Genes are funny >things. If we were to listen to the anthropologists we'd have to accept >that at one time tens of thousands of years ago all peoples had dark >skin, hair and eyes. That being said the genes that transmit skin, hair >and eye color--the darker hues are generally dominant while the lighter >hues are recessive. Simply put, in any match up the off spring are more >likely to exhibit through natural selection the characteristics of the >dominant unless recessives match up. Genetics is far more complex than >that, but this explanation is the easiest way to begin to understand. > >During the ice ages, populations which had migrated north--northern >Europe, Scandinavia, and west into the British Isles etc. and caught by >them underwent genetic mutations towards the lighter skin, hair & eye >colors traditionally associated with those areas today. Much later on >via invasions, conquests, occupations etc--just a couple of more recent >history, the Romans, Huns, etc. the gene pool became more mixed--no >longer was the blonde/red hair, blue/green eyes, and lily white skin of >the northerners was diluted through intermarriage etc. as the migrants >settled in. > >I understand that your question really is of a more recent nature than >all of that and doesn't really answer the question you are asking as to >attempt to pin-point the exact relative--you very well may not find that >answer. > >Dora Smith wrote: >> My great grandmother adn her mother had very dark skin and hair. The trait is found elsewhere among the descendants of William Raymond and Mercy Davis of a broad area of Worcester County, Massacusetts. My great grandmother was descended from William Raymond and Mercy Davis three times via a chain of first cousin marriages. Looking at family photos it further looks that as much as ancestors in Dorsetshire may possibly have had both dark skin and hair, and long faces, the long face came down the Raymond line, and the dark skin and hair came from the Davis line along with a distinctive but more ordinary looking face. One of the less inbred descendants of this set of marriages had Morgan eyes and eyebrows blended into the same look. >> >> I am dying of curiosity. Which line or lines really contributed the dark skin and hair? All lines in this part of my family tree are of English origin. Mitochondrial DNA is consistent with the notion that the dark skin and hair came straight down my maternal line from Anne the wife of Thomas King of Sudbury, but that isn't necessarily true. Particularly as teh face shape appears to be that which was typical of Dolar Davis's descendants, and he was from Kent, and of male line Saxon descent. Some of my Raymond relatives had a face typical of the Bishop clan. Could be partly that 19th century George Bishop clan hair, beard and sometimes glasses they had on. (I've been collecting photos from published genealogies for 20 years.) >> >> I'm also curious who had those downward slanting eyes. >> >> The Davis line were a clan of families that started out in Sudbury, which is in Middlesex County. It includes Hubbard and Rice, though those aren't the only families that fed it. >> >> There should be people on these lists who are descended from these lines. Whose lines were full of people with dark skin and hair? >> >> By the way, I've an idea that Mary Meads' father was not born in Lynn in 1614. >> >> >> First Generation >> >> 1. Mercy DAVIS: born on 23 Jul 1725 in Bedford, Middlesex, Massachusetts; died on 4 Feb 1810 in Holden, Worcester, >> Massachusetts. >> >> Second Generation >> >> 2. Daniel DAVIS: born on 16 Mar 1673 in Concord, Massachusetts; married on 27 Apr 1699 in Concord, Massachusetts; died >> on 11 Feb 1741 in Bedford, Massachusetts. >> >> 3. Mary HUBBARD: born on 3 Apr 1682 in Concord, Massachusetts; died on 2 Feb 1769 in Bedford. >> >> Third Generation >> >> 4. Samuel DAVIS: born 1635 or 7/11/1639 in Kent, England or Duxbury or Concord, Massachusetts; married on 11 Jan 1665 >> in Lynn, Massachusetts; died Living on 15 Mar 1714. >> >> 5. Mary MEADS (MEADDOWS) (MEDDOWES) : born about 1639; died on 2 Oct 1710 in Concord, Middlesex, >> Massachusetts. >> >> 6. Jonathan HUBBARD: born on 3 Jan 1658 in WEthersfeld, Connecticut; married on 15 Jan 1681 in Concord, >> Massachusetts; died on 15 Mar 1681/82 in Concord Massachusetts. >> >> 7. Hannah RICE: born in 1658 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts; died on 9 Apr 1747 in Concord, Middlesex, >> Massachusetts. >> >> Fourth Generation >> >> 8. Dolor DAVIS: born around 1590 in Kent, England; married on 29 Mar 1624 in East Farleigh, Kent, England; died in Jun >> 1673 in Barnstable, Massachusetts. >> >> 9. Margery WILLARD: died before 16 Feb 1667 in Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> 10. Philip MEADOWS: born about 1614 in Lynn, Massachusetts; married in Apr 1641 in Lynn, Massachusetts. >> >> 11. Elizabeth IGGLEDEN: born on 20 Jan 1620 in Biddenden, Kent, England. >> >> 12. John HUBBARD: born in 1630 in England; married in 1648 in Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> 13. Mary Sheafe MERRIAM: born in 1625 in Hadlow, Kent, England; died on 8 Mar 1721 in Hatfield, Massachusetts. >> >> 14. Samuel RICE: married on 18 Nov 1655 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts; died on 25 Feb 1685 in Marlboro, >> Massachusetts. >> >> 15. Elizabeth KING: born in 1635 in Dorset, England. >> Ahnentafel of Mercy DAVIS 13 Jan 2009 >> 2 >> >> Fifth Generation >> >> 18. Richard WILLARD: married on 28 Sep 1601 in Westgate, Margate, Kent, England; died on 20 Feb 1616 in >> Horsemonden, Kent, England. >> >> 19. Margarie HUMPHRIE: born in 1575 in Horsemonden, Kent, England; died about 11 Dec 1608 in Horsmonden, Kent, >> England. >> >> 24. George HUBBARD: born about 1594 in England; married in 1627; died in Jan 1683 in New Haven, Connecticut. >> >> 25. Mary BISHOP: born about 1633; died on 14 Sep 1675 in Guilford, Connecticut. >> >> 26. William MERRIAM: born on 21 May 1564 in Hadlow or Tudeley, Kent; married; died on 27 Nov 1635 in Hadlow, >> Kent. >> >> 27. Sarah BURGESS: born in 1559 in Goudhurst, Kent, England; died in Hadlowe, Kent, ENgland. >> >> 28. Edmund RICE Deacon: born about 1594 in Suffolk, ENgland; married on 15 Oct 1618 in Bury St Edmunds St Mary, >> Suffolk, England; died on 3 May 1663 in Marlboro, Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> 29. Thomazine FROST: died on 13 Jun 1654 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> 30. Thomas KING: born about 1605 in Dorsetshire, England; married in Dorset, England; died on 3 May 1676 in Marlboro, >> Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> 31. Anne TYCE: born in 1608 in Dorsetshire, England; died on 24 Dec 1642 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. >> >> Yours, >> Dora Smith >> Austin, TX >> tiggernut24@yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is an entry in MA Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors:   Phelps, Edward, Leominster. Lieutenant, Capt. Joshua Wood's co. of Militia, which marched on the alarm of April 19, 1775, to Cambridge.   There is a gravestone in Old Pine Grove Cemetery in Leominster for a Lieut. Edward Phelps, died Jan 15, 1776 at age 47.   There is another entry in MA Rev War Soldiers and Sailors:   Phelps, Edward. 2nd Lieutenant, Capt. Nathaniel White's co., Col. Willys's regt.; list of officers; commissioned Feb. 23, 1776.   There is an enlistment record for a Edward Phelps from Leominster in Capt. Nathaniel White's company, date of return Dec 1775.   Questions:   Is there anything in The History of Leominster that would clarify whether the two were the same person?   Is the enlistment record or MA Rev War Soldiers and Sailors wrong about the commission date?   I find no other Edward Phelps born in MA that would be of age to join the Militia or Continental Army except the son of Edward and Martha Phelps and he enlisted in 1778 as a Pvt.   Bob Thomas, descendant of Edward Phelps

Found in the VR's of Sturbridge, MA; page 197 Walter Fitts [int. Fitch] and Elizabeth BLANCHARD, wid [int. omits wid.] of Thompson, Conn, 5 Mar 1818

Benjamin Fitts of 1727 was from Ipswich, MA

1749 FITTS Benjamin and Sarah Rich, Oct. 31, 1749. *Marriage Sutton1749 RICH Sarah and Benjamin Fitts, Oct. 31, 1749. Marriage SuttonSome of their children, not all.1750 FITTS Sarah, d. Benjamin and Sarah, Aug. 8, 1750.Birth Sutton 1753 FITTS Daniel, s. Benjamin and Sarah, April 14, 1753.Birth Sutton1755 FITTS Walter, s. Benjamin and Sarah, April 4, 1755.Birth Sutton1757 FITTS Robert, s. Benjamin and Sarah, March 27, 1757.Birth Sutton1759 FITTS Edward, s. Benjamin and Sarah, Feb. 10, 1759.Birth Sutton

The Sutton VR's indicate he is son of Benjamin and Sarah, last name not indicated. Further research needed to find out who Benjamin is.

I have a Walter Fitts, b. Apr 4, 1755 Sutton Ma. I'm trying to find some way to confirm that he is a son of Benjamin Fitts, b. Apr 16, 1727 + Sarah Fairfield. Anything listed in NEHS? I'm back to the list again after a few years off so any help would be great. Fred

Hello John and Jodi, Did the marriage record of Napoleon and Carmiles list the date of marriage? I have April 1899, but would like the day if it is available. Thank you very much for looking up the information. It is appreciated and adds more information to my search. I will check with Salem to see if they have anything else. I appreciate the contact information as well. That is great. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vital Records Project" <VitalRecords@MA-VitalRecords.org> To: "annterry" <annterry@charter.net> Cc: <MAWORCES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [MAWORCES] Napoleon Solyme Vincent Sharon, Here are the marriage records for both Napoleon and his parents: Marriage record from Worcester, Vol. 490, p. 418 Napoleon Vincent, 22, carpenter, b. Salem, s. Solyme & Domithil (Trottier) Carmiles Lusignant, 20, b. Putnam, CT, d. Joseph & Victolin (Leclaire) Marriage record from Salem, Vol. 271, p.274 Aug. 22, 1875 Solyme Vincent, 24, carpenter, of Montreal, Can., b. Canada, s. Francois & Victoire (Metras), 2nd marriage Domitile Trottier, 17, of Salem, b. Canada, d. Elie & Domitile (Lozon (sp?)), 1st marriage I was unable to find a birth record. The online records are copies of the originals. They were sent to the MA State Archives and then NEHGS indexes them and puts the images online. I also checked the state index and he isn't there. It is possible that they missed copying the record. Try contacting the Salem City Clerk. The contact information is: http://www.salem.com/Pages/SalemMA_Clerk/index City Clerk - Cheryl A. Lapointe, City Clerk, clapointe@salem.com, (978) 745-9595 x5611 Ilene Simons, Assistant City Clerk, isimons@salem.com, (978) 745-9595 x5614 Address: 93 Washington Street Salem, MA 01970 Fax: (978) 740-9209 Hours: Monday-Wednesday 8:00-4:00 Thursday 8:00-7:00pm Friday 8:00-12:00 Generally speaking, I have found the City/Town Clerks to be extremely helpful. Many will even do a lookup while on the phone or will return a call with lookup information. Good luck. :-) John & Jodi Massachusetts Vital Records Administrators - http://MA-VitalRecords.org If you find this site of value - http://MA-VitalRecords.org/Donate.html Quoting annterry <annterry@charter.net>: > Hi, > > I am looking for birth and death information on Napoleon Solyme Vincent. > He was born on or about May 4 1877 probably in Massachusetts. He was > married to Carmelie Lusignan on Apr. 24, 1899 in Worcester, MA. > > Thank you. > > Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You had the correct date of April 24, 1899 in your original query. That's why I omitted it from the reply. Sorry about that. :-) John & Jodi Massachusetts Vital Records Administrators - http://MA-VitalRecords.org If you find this site of value - http://MA-VitalRecords.org/Donate.html Quoting annterry <annterry@charter.net>: > Hello John and Jodi, > > Did the marriage record of Napoleon and Carmiles list the date of marriage? > I have April 1899, but would like the day if it is available. > > Thank you very much for looking up the information. It is appreciated and > adds more information to my search. I will check with Salem to see if they > have anything else. I appreciate the contact information as well. That is > great. > > Sharon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vital Records Project" <VitalRecords@MA-VitalRecords.org> > To: "annterry" <annterry@charter.net> > Cc: <MAWORCES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [MAWORCES] Napoleon Solyme Vincent > > > Sharon, > Here are the marriage records for both Napoleon and his parents: > Marriage record from Worcester, Vol. 490, p. 418 > Napoleon Vincent, 22, carpenter, b. Salem, s. Solyme & Domithil (Trottier) > Carmiles Lusignant, 20, b. Putnam, CT, d. Joseph & Victolin (Leclaire) > > Marriage record from Salem, Vol. 271, p.274 > Aug. 22, 1875 > Solyme Vincent, 24, carpenter, of Montreal, Can., b. Canada, s. > Francois & Victoire (Metras), 2nd marriage > Domitile Trottier, 17, of Salem, b. Canada, d. Elie & Domitile (Lozon > (sp?)), 1st marriage > > I was unable to find a birth record. The online records are copies of > the originals. They were sent to the MA State Archives and then NEHGS > indexes them and puts the images online. I also checked the state > index and he isn't there. It is possible that they missed copying the > record. Try contacting the Salem City Clerk. The contact information is: > > http://www.salem.com/Pages/SalemMA_Clerk/index > City Clerk - Cheryl A. Lapointe, City Clerk, clapointe@salem.com, > (978) 745-9595 x5611 > Ilene Simons, Assistant City Clerk, isimons@salem.com, (978) 745-9595 x5614 > Address: 93 Washington Street > Salem, MA 01970 > Fax: (978) 740-9209 > Hours: Monday-Wednesday 8:00-4:00 > Thursday 8:00-7:00pm > Friday 8:00-12:00 > > Generally speaking, I have found the City/Town Clerks to be extremely > helpful. Many will even do a lookup while on the phone or will return > a call with lookup information. > > Good luck. :-) > > John & Jodi > Massachusetts Vital Records Administrators - http://MA-VitalRecords.org > If you find this site of value - http://MA-VitalRecords.org/Donate.html > > > Quoting annterry <annterry@charter.net>: > >> Hi, >> >> I am looking for birth and death information on Napoleon Solyme Vincent. >> He was born on or about May 4 1877 probably in Massachusetts. He was >> married to Carmelie Lusignan on Apr. 24, 1899 in Worcester, MA. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All, Does anyone know where to find, if they still exist, naturalization records from the Worcester Police Court for 1853? (48 Vol. 3 1853-1854) Thanks, The Other Cheryl **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Sharon, Here are the marriage records for both Napoleon and his parents: Marriage record from Worcester, Vol. 490, p. 418 Napoleon Vincent, 22, carpenter, b. Salem, s. Solyme & Domithil (Trottier) Carmiles Lusignant, 20, b. Putnam, CT, d. Joseph & Victolin (Leclaire) Marriage record from Salem, Vol. 271, p.274 Aug. 22, 1875 Solyme Vincent, 24, carpenter, of Montreal, Can., b. Canada, s. Francois & Victoire (Metras), 2nd marriage Domitile Trottier, 17, of Salem, b. Canada, d. Elie & Domitile (Lozon (sp?)), 1st marriage I was unable to find a birth record. The online records are copies of the originals. They were sent to the MA State Archives and then NEHGS indexes them and puts the images online. I also checked the state index and he isn't there. It is possible that they missed copying the record. Try contacting the Salem City Clerk. The contact information is: http://www.salem.com/Pages/SalemMA_Clerk/index City Clerk - Cheryl A. Lapointe, City Clerk, clapointe@salem.com, (978) 745-9595 x5611 Ilene Simons, Assistant City Clerk, isimons@salem.com, (978) 745-9595 x5614 Address: 93 Washington Street Salem, MA 01970 Fax: (978) 740-9209 Hours: Monday-Wednesday 8:00-4:00 Thursday 8:00-7:00pm Friday 8:00-12:00 Generally speaking, I have found the City/Town Clerks to be extremely helpful. Many will even do a lookup while on the phone or will return a call with lookup information. Good luck. :-) John & Jodi Massachusetts Vital Records Administrators - http://MA-VitalRecords.org If you find this site of value - http://MA-VitalRecords.org/Donate.html Quoting annterry <annterry@charter.net>: > Hi, > > I am looking for birth and death information on Napoleon Solyme > Vincent. He was born on or about May 4 1877 probably in > Massachusetts. He was married to Carmelie Lusignan on Apr. 24, 1899 > in Worcester, MA. > > Thank you. > > Sharon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAWORCES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am looking for birth and death information on Napoleon Solyme Vincent. He was born on or about May 4 1877 probably in Massachusetts. He was married to Carmelie Lusignan on Apr. 24, 1899 in Worcester, MA. Thank you. Sharon

I would appreciate it if "the clown" would contact me since all of my attempts to contact him regarding this family bounce back. On November 26, 2008 he wrote that there was new information available on this couple and family. I responded that I would be most interested in details but I have not heard from him since. Dawna Clark