Hi! Alison Well.... My brick wall consist of the name George Brigham... born in Worcester Co. He married Sarah Brooks also born Worcester Co. and they had a son by the name of Clarence Brigham (my Grandfather) that was also born Worcester Co. July 6,1887 and died May 10,1963. and was living in RI at the time of death and was burried just across the line into East Putam Ct. He and my grandmother Winifred Cooper Brigham had parted but never divorced. I never knew my Grandfather or anything about him and so no I have his death cirt.and I see that George Brigham was his Father and Sarh Brooks was his mother (My great grandparents) But it doesn't tell me much on them as to when they were born or died. Having that might be helpful in my search. It took an act of congress just to find out about the death cirt.as all the family members are passed on now. I am living in Tx so its not as though I can run to Worcester city hall to check out their files! :-( So all in all I am looking for the birth and death and where they were or burried or anything I can find out about them. Thanks Joyce On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:16:13 -0700 "AGFranks" <[email protected]> writes: > > > Hi Joyce: > > Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com I think are owned by what is called > My > Family.com. Depending on what you require, would determine which > would be > your best route to go. There are many things that are on-line for > free. > Ancestry has some of the stuff that is free to all. Maureen is > correct, > Ancestry is not cheap anymore. Getting more expensive all the time. > One > thing I do not like is them charging for stuff that is elsewhere for > free > and has been there for free. 1880, 1901, 1911 Canadian Census > records for > instance. > > Make up a listing of what you need in the "Group and Class" mode, > and post a > bit to the list. I'm willing to try to help. If what you are > looking for > is in another county other than Worcester Co., MA - you might meet > with some > opposition from others on *this* list. I don't have a problem with > who/where - because some may have been born in Worcester Co., but > not > necessarily died there, or the parents were not from Worcester Co., > from > the gitgo. Besides we who are on this list are here to help one > another and > doing a good deed each and every day is the right thing to do. > > Regards, > > Alison Franks > Archivist, Rawson Family Association > > > > ==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/worcester.html > > > Southern Heart Ranch www.southernheartranch.com

When I firsted started this "genealogy bug" Ancestry.com was really reasonable in price. And they have alot of information. I would say in the last two years they have tripled in Price. They have old newspapers and biographies. I think they are the better BUT they are costly now. When I started it was about $39.95 for 6 months of research. I do not know what they cost right now but I do know it has gone way up. There are other sites as well. There is Trees.com. The Mormons have a free site and it is: www.familysearch.com Genealogy.com is good also BUt I think ancestry.com has more tools to work with. Maureen >From: Joyce & Bill Manuel <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MAWORCES] which has the best genealogy >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:22:24 -0600 > >I was thinking of joining a search of genealogy and was wondering as to >what you all thought was the best for information. Ancestry .com or >genealogy.com/ >In all sence I hate to join for a whole year as all I would need was just >a month to get all the info that I needed. >Do you know if I could just sign up for a months time???? >Thanks >Joyce > > >==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== >Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? >Forget How to UN sub??? >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/worcester.html > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement

Hello! I live in Dallas but I would like to plan a trip to Massachusetts so that I can expand my family research, along with some sightseeing, in the next couple of months. In order to use my time wisely, over 5-7 days, I would be interested in recommendations on where I should target my research time in both Boston and Worcester. A couple of particular areas of interest to me are accessing any available Worcester County Naturalization documents prior to 1880 and vital records after 1900. Here in Dallas, the library has the entire Massachusetts vital records index through 1910, but no records after 1900 and we only have the Naturalization index, which is useless because I'm looking for someone with a common name and there are many possibilities. Also, any advice on hotel's/B&B's in Worcester? Thanks, Kelly Day

Thanks JSR :-) Joyce On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:53:53 EST [email protected] writes: > The best subscription Ancestry.com has is their census subscription > for only > $99.00 a year. This is a goldmine. I have found more important > finds in my > census research, than in any other source. So cheap at less than > $10 a month. > So much better than Heritage Quest online censuses too (which I also > use - > their page scans are sometimes better than ancestry's). I will > never be without > this as long as I continue doing research! > > Many people are unaware you can get this subscription separate from > the whole > package. You can then add to it at a discounted rate per each > additional > data base you want. > > JSR > ==================================== > In a message dated 3/27/2006 9:43:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > When I firsted started this "genealogy bug" Ancestry.com was really > > reasonable in price. And they have alot of information. I would say > in the > last two years they have tripled in Price. They have old newspapers > and > biographies. I think they are the better BUT they are costly now. > When I > started it was about $39.95 for 6 months of research. I do not know > what > they cost right now but I do know it has gone way up. There are > other sites > as well. There is Trees.com. > The Mormons have a free site and it is: www.familysearch.com > Genealogy.com > is good also BUt I think ancestry.com has more tools to work with. > Maureen > > > ==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the ARCHIVES lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~maworces/wo-gen.htm > > > Southern Heart Ranch www.southernheartranch.com

Thanks Maureen, I have tried the familysearch.com can can't fine what I am looking for. I have found some, but not much! Right now I have hit so many brick walls...or people that have fell threw the cracks... :-) Thanks Joyce On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:42:20 -0500 "Maureen Cooley" <[email protected]> writes: > When I firsted started this "genealogy bug" Ancestry.com was really > reasonable in price. And they have alot of information. I would say > in the > last two years they have tripled in Price. They have old newspapers > and > biographies. I think they are the better BUT they are costly now. > When I > started it was about $39.95 for 6 months of research. I do not know > what > they cost right now but I do know it has gone way up. There are > other sites > as well. There is Trees.com. > The Mormons have a free site and it is: www.familysearch.com > Genealogy.com > is good also BUt I think ancestry.com has more tools to work with. > Maureen > > > >From: Joyce & Bill Manuel <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [MAWORCES] which has the best genealogy > >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:22:24 -0600 > > > >I was thinking of joining a search of genealogy and was wondering > as to > >what you all thought was the best for information. Ancestry .com > or > >genealogy.com/ > >In all sence I hate to join for a whole year as all I would need > was just > >a month to get all the info that I needed. > >Do you know if I could just sign up for a months time???? > >Thanks > >Joyce > > > > > >==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== > >Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > >Forget How to UN sub??? > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/worcester.html > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > ==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== > To UNsub go here: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/worcester.html > > > Southern Heart Ranch www.southernheartranch.com

I was thinking of joining a search of genealogy and was wondering as to what you all thought was the best for information. Ancestry .com or genealogy.com/ In all sence I hate to join for a whole year as all I would need was just a month to get all the info that I needed. Do you know if I could just sign up for a months time???? Thanks Joyce

Hi Joyce: Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com I think are owned by what is called My Family.com. Depending on what you require, would determine which would be your best route to go. There are many things that are on-line for free. Ancestry has some of the stuff that is free to all. Maureen is correct, Ancestry is not cheap anymore. Getting more expensive all the time. One thing I do not like is them charging for stuff that is elsewhere for free and has been there for free. 1880, 1901, 1911 Canadian Census records for instance. Make up a listing of what you need in the "Group and Class" mode, and post a bit to the list. I'm willing to try to help. If what you are looking for is in another county other than Worcester Co., MA - you might meet with some opposition from others on *this* list. I don't have a problem with who/where - because some may have been born in Worcester Co., but not necessarily died there, or the parents were not from Worcester Co., from the gitgo. Besides we who are on this list are here to help one another and doing a good deed each and every day is the right thing to do. Regards, Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Association

I beg to differ with you, I prefer Heritage Quest for census. It is true that all census they have are not indexed but I have been able to find everything I was looking for with them. I have it free through my local library. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MAWORCES] which has the best genealogy The best subscription Ancestry.com has is their census subscription for only $99.00 a year. This is a goldmine. I have found more important finds in my census research, than in any other source. So cheap at less than $10 a month. So much better than Heritage Quest online censuses too (which I also use - their page scans are sometimes better than ancestry's). I will never be without this as long as I continue doing research! Many people are unaware you can get this subscription separate from the whole package. You can then add to it at a discounted rate per each additional data base you want. JSR ==================================== In a message dated 3/27/2006 9:43:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: When I firsted started this "genealogy bug" Ancestry.com was really reasonable in price. And they have alot of information. I would say in the last two years they have tripled in Price. They have old newspapers and biographies. I think they are the better BUT they are costly now. When I started it was about $39.95 for 6 months of research. I do not know what they cost right now but I do know it has gone way up. There are other sites as well. There is Trees.com. The Mormons have a free site and it is: www.familysearch.com Genealogy.com is good also BUt I think ancestry.com has more tools to work with. Maureen ==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== Have you visited the ARCHIVES lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~maworces/wo-gen.htm

Hi Joan, Yes, there was a Smith Pond on Granite Street in Leominster. It was in front of the Smith Piano factory and was used as a swimming hole. I do recall reading about a drowning there in the newspapers. If you post the family name, I may be able to retrieve the article for you. Jane Fischer Leominster Historical Society Original Message: ----------------- From: Joan Wieliczko [email protected] Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:39:29 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: [MAWORCES] Smith Pond I am wondering if anyone knows where Smith Pond is located. It should be in the Blackstone area. My grandfather's brother drowned there in 1900. Thanks Joan ==== MAWORCES Mailing List ==== Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? Forget How to UN sub??? http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/worcester.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Morning All: While looking for a Smith Pond for Joan, I came across this URL which has some very nice pictures and some interesting facts about the towns. The URL is Titled Physical Assets of the Blackstone Valley: http://www.blackstonedaily.com/assets.htm Enjoy them. Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Association

Hello Joan: I didn't find any reference to a Smith Pond in the Blackstone Area. I did find one in Leominster, MA an another in Worcester, MA. Regards, Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Association

I am wondering if anyone knows where Smith Pond is located. It should be in the Blackstone area. My grandfather's brother drowned there in 1900. Thanks Joan

Looking at the 1880 census, I found my George Boyd family on Apricot St. in Valley Falls. In the 1890 City Directory it says Apricot corner Armandale V.F. On the 1910 census they are at Apricot in Cherry Valley. Did they move or did the community change names? Also, the small cemetery by the park in Cherry Valley.... does anyone know the correct name for the cemetery? Thanks for your help ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

Hello Liz, The date on the census is 11 Jun 1900 34 Parker Street; Gardner It is a hotel. There is a Harry Gotham, restaurant proprietor and ? Richards, hotel keeper with their families listed. BARLET, Maggie W F Feb 1876 27 S servant imm 1881 19 years tablegirl hotel I did a quick check for Bridget (Daveron) Burke but I'm sure you know how many Bridget Burkes were roaming around. If you give me more information on towns, siblings, births that you have found; I will check the records for you. Cheryl

Greetings, I am currently working on my third photo history of New England Polonia. "Worcester County's Polish Community" will be "a community family album," to use the phrase that I coined three years ago for my first book, "The Polish Community of Worcester." This will be a ground-breaking book: the first publication to document the experiences of nine different Polonias in central Massachusetts and show their interrelationships. It's an exciting project to preserve our Polish heritage, and I invite anyone interested to contact me off-list for more information. Some basic details follow. Barbara Proko (a Worcester, MA native currently residing in New Britain, CT) ******************** Worcester County's Polish Community A new photo history celebrating Worcester County's Polish heritage is in the works, and anyone willing to share family, parish, business, school, team or organization photos for the project is invited to participate. Barbara Proko, Janice Baniukiewicz Stickles, and the Czestochowa Guild of Catholic Women are developing "Worcester County's Polish Community" for fall 2007 release in Arcadia Publishing's "Images of America" series. Proko and Stickles see the new book as a natural complement to their 2003 Arcadia volume, "The Polish Community of Worcester." While the first book focused on the city's "Polonia," this one will encompass the entire county, corresponding to the area served by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Worcester. The new book will highlight the communities associated with the diocese's seven Polish parishes--located in Clinton, Dudley, Gardner, Southbridge, Webster, West Warren, and Worcester--as well as the Polonias of Gilbertville and South Grafton. It will also examine early Polish settlement in the towns surrounding Worcester and the later Polish American move to these suburbs. Poles began settling in Worcester County in the 1860s, with major waves of immigration occurring between 1890 and 1914, after World War II, and in the 1980s. The 2000 census identified more than 51,000 county residents as having Polish heritage. "Like our first book, this photo history will essentially be a community family album, representing as fully as possible the range of Polish experience here. There are countless stories to tell and memories to share, whether of parish jubilees and Polish picnics or sports stars and successful businesspeople," Proko said. The Arcadia format accommodates about 235 images. The authors are seeking photos, documents, advertisements, and other paper memorabilia from the 1860s through the 1980s. As with their 2003 project, they will return all materials and acknowledge all lenders in the new book. Proko and Stickles are organizing photo pick-up sessions at various locations around the county. Scheduled to date are: Saturday, April 8--Our Lady of Czestochowa Church, 34 Ward St., Worcester, 10 a.m.-7 p.m. Sunday, April 9--Polish National Home, 7 Main St., South Grafton, noon-4 p.m. Sunday, April 23--Booklovers' Gourmet, 55 East Main St., Webster, noon-3 p.m. Saturday, April 29--Sturbridge Coffee Roasters Cafe, 210 Hamilton St., Southbridge, 9 a.m.-2 p.m. Sunday, April 30--Tatnuck Bookseller, 18 Lyman St., Westborough, 11 a.m.-2p.m. Interested persons may also submit materials to members of the Czestochowa Guild of Catholic Women of Our Lady of Czestochowa Parish in Worcester. For more information, contact Barbara Proko at (860) 223-0887 or [email protected]; or Janice Baniukiewicz Stickles at (508) 833-1620 or [email protected] ### __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Jackie: This is a very strange family! First of all I didn't find a marriage for Albert Phillips to Cora Wright. 09 Nov 1858 in Fitchburg, Peter Wright married Lizzie C. Field their children were: David b. 21 May 1864 Levi Joseph 24 May 1870 Mary Elizabeth 05 Feb 1874 Fitchburg Lizzie/Elizabeth F. Field d. 20 Apr 1876 age 32 of Cancer wife of Peter, and dau of John and Angeline (____) Field Peter then married Ella M. (Defoe) Phillips 13 Sep 1876, 2d marriage for both. Ella had Charles (couldn't find him in the on-line vitals) and Joseph Ellsworth . The 1880 Census shows a Cora, but I think this is Mary Elizabeth, knowing the French Canadian penchant for naming children one thing and calling them something else. Anyway in the 1900 Census 5W Fitchburg, Worcester, MA pg 8A Peter Wright Dec 1827 72 m23y CanF CanF CanF To US 1880 - we know that's wrong Mary E. Wright Apr 1847 53 m23y 7/7 VT CanF CanF Ellsworth Wright Oct 1879 20 single MA Can VT Albert J. Phillips Sep 1874 25 single MA MA MA son-in-law Albert can't be single and be a son-in-law. He can be single and a step son though. What I am thinking here is that Albert Phillips was the son of Ella M. (Defoe) Phillips. I tried doing a marriage look up for Cora and mary Elizabeth - that didn't work either. Regards, Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Association

Hi Jackie, This is the web site for the "City of Fitchburg" http://www.ci.fitchburg.ma.us/ And, this is the page for the City Clerk's office; it does not mention requesting the look-up's of marriage and death records for genealogy purposes. But, there is not harm in writing and asking ! http://www.ci.fitchburg.ma.us/cityclerk.htm (There is also a way to write or e-mail the Cemetery Office, which in other nearby cities can be quite helpful.) Betty (near Lowell, MA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jackie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:09 AM Subject: PHILLIPS marriage in Fitchburg > Could someone do a lookup for the marriage of CORA WRIGHT to ALBERT J. > PHILLIPS during the 1890's - probably in Fitchburg. > > Thanks! > Jackie >

Hi Jeannine, In the Boston area, there is an office in the Archdiocese of Boston which helps out with information on where people are buried ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Kubik" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: Any UXBRIDGE residents? > Are there any Uxbridge residents on this list? Anyone who would be > willing to contact St. Mary's RC church for burial information on my great > grandmother Mary Reynolds Garrahan? I have her death cert. from State of > Ma. She died in Northbridge, Ma.on Jan. 3, 1895. A small obit I found > in the Worcester Spy states she was living in Plummers Corners, > Northbridge. My research shows there was no RC church in Northbridge at > that time. It seems the closest RC church would have been St. Mary's. > This church has been contacted a number of times in the last few years & > they have been asked to check for this burial information in their records > and no information has been forthcoming from them. This brick wall is > enormous. Her death cert. says she was to be buried in Pascoag, RI. The > RC church that was in existence at that time, St. Patrick's, cannot find > their records for that time period. The Pascoag town historian, library, > clerk have all been contacted to no avail. All ! > known cemeteries there have been contacted to no avail. If anyone on the > list can help with this at St. Mary's, I would be very appreciative. > > Many thanks, > Jeannine > North Carolina > > ______________________________

Hi Jackie, You should be able to write a letter to the City Clerk's Office at Fitchburg City Hall and request research for "death records." Although I have found out from the City Halls in other large MA cities, that they are now charging a fee for "genealogy research." For instance, the City of Cambridge is now charging a "research fee," even if you go there and look through the "record books" yourself ! Something like $15 per hour ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jackie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Any FITCHBURG residents? > Are there any Fitchburg residents on this list? Anyone who might be > willing to telephone St. Francis Roman Catholic Church to inquire about > death dates for 3 members of one family? Looking for death dates for > CLARA and MICHAEL DUMAS who lived on Wanoosnac Road in 1930. Believe > Michael died during the 1920-30 timeframe, that Clara died between > 1932-34 and that their son ARTHUR HARRISON DUMAS died in the 1940's or > 50's. > > Would appreciate any help. > > Jackie > Dallas, TX > > ______________________________

Hi Jay: No matter where your ancestor was buried a burial permit would be required, and if the buried was to be other than in the town where the death occurred, then a transit permit would also be required. Generally these items are kept in the town halls. Pascoag is within Burrillville, and the town hall for Burrillville is in Harrisville, RI. Contact the town hall to ask about a burial and transit permit for your person. I hope you get good news there because not all town halls retained those documents sad to say. Regards, Alison Franks Archivist, Rawson Family Association