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    1. Re: [MAUPIN-CHAT] DISGUSTING THINGS
    2. Mary Lynn Winham
    3. My 2 cents worth....I think the father of the Yates children is just as responsible if not more so than the mother. It takes two to tango and he KNEW she had problems. And I wonder if any family or friends tried to step in and help this family. This is the saddest thing and you know killing your own children goes against all the maternal instinct a woman has. Guess I should say most women. If I was the maternal grandmother of those children I'm afraid I would be in jail about now! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-CHAT] DISGUSTING THINGS > > > > > Here in Texas, the Yates murders, are getting lots of coverage because > they > > were so horrible. The husband took the stand today for the defense. A > > psychiatrist testified yesterday that she had warned the Yates two years > ago > > not to have any more children. Early reports suggest to me that he has > some > > culpability in this. Too bad he won't be held accountable. She had to > home > > school those children, couldn't have babysitters or friends, and he > obviously > > expected her to be a baby factory. I am not saying that home schooling > and > > lots of babies is necessarily a bad thing, but all of that forced upon > > someone and coupled with depression and a warped relationship it would > have > > to lead to trouble. > > > > That's my grousing! > > Patricia > > > I have been following the commentary surrounding this case, and it is > unusual in that so many people simply do not believe that Post-Partum > Psychosis is a disease. However, in England, this has been recognized for > years and used legally---in defenses or to commit people to hospitals, etc. > Here in Texas the idea seems to be "she just had the baby blues." I am > finding it interesting that many of the callers on the talk shows do not > really think mental illnesses are real. One woman said, "So, if she is > mentally ill, let's cure her and then we can kill her!" > > If you read all of the background in this case, the words "mentally ill" > just scream out from the page. I also find it interesting that on Thursday > a man killed all of his children using carbon monoxide poisoning and yet > there has been no outcry and hardly any news coverage. > > As for the Yates husband, from all accounts he was very domineering and > controlling. When the doctor testified that he told the couple not to have > any more children after the problems occurred when child #4 was born and yet > they had another child as soon as possible, it makes me wonder just whose > decision it was for her to have another baby. I think he is culpable in > their deaths. > > Pat in Fort Worth > > > ==== MAUPIN-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/27/2002 01:24:29
    1. Re: [MAUPIN-CHAT] DISGUSTING THINGS
    2. Pat
    3. > My 2 cents worth....I think the father of the Yates children is just as > responsible if not more so than the mother. It takes two to tango and he > KNEW she had problems. And I wonder if any family or friends tried to step > in and help this family. This is the saddest thing and you know killing > your own children goes against all the maternal instinct a woman has. Guess > I should say most women. If I was the maternal grandmother of those > children I'm afraid I would be in jail about now! Mary Did you see his comments in today's paper? "The psychiatrist told us not to have any more children, but she didn't FORBID it, so we went ahead and had another...." that is paraphrasing, but that is what he said. Creep. I don't think that Andrea Yates had any say in that matter. Also, she tried to kill herself and he didn't take her to the hospital, and, on another occasion when she tried to kill herself, he decided to take her on a walk along the sea wall in Galveston "to calm her down." That didn't work, either. He was preventing her from getting medical care with these decisions. Pat

    02/28/2002 03:11:48
    1. Re: [MAUPIN-CHAT] DISGUSTING THINGS
    2. Mary Lynn Winham
    3. He is a creep and I just wonder if the jury is thinking the same thing. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-CHAT] DISGUSTING THINGS > > > > > > My 2 cents worth....I think the father of the Yates children is just as > > responsible if not more so than the mother. It takes two to tango and he > > KNEW she had problems. And I wonder if any family or friends tried to > step > > in and help this family. This is the saddest thing and you know killing > > your own children goes against all the maternal instinct a woman has. > Guess > > I should say most women. If I was the maternal grandmother of those > > children I'm afraid I would be in jail about now! Mary > > > Did you see his comments in today's paper? "The psychiatrist told us not to > have any more children, but she didn't FORBID it, so we went ahead and had > another...." that is paraphrasing, but that is what he said. Creep. I > don't think that Andrea Yates had any say in that matter. Also, she tried > to kill herself and he didn't take her to the hospital, and, on another > occasion when she tried to kill herself, he decided to take her on a walk > along the sea wall in Galveston "to calm her down." That didn't work, > either. He was preventing her from getting medical care with these > decisions. > > Pat > > > ==== MAUPIN-CHAT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > <http://www,rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/28/2002 11:22:04