In a message dated 11/2/02 7:02:30 AM, mlwwaw@mail.sirinet.net writes: << Oh my gosh....I was raised on salt water and Vicks and in turn did the same for my children. >> Gang: Did you ever have a rag dipped in turpentine wrapped around achy joints? When I was a child that was another familiar smell and it worked. I had tonsillitis a lot and my knees would ache at the same time. Sandi