It sure does, and our Yellow Delicious apples have it, it is a down side to Cedar trees! Jackie

Don't get me wrong, there are uses for all trees, the Silver Maple tree is good for flood plain areas because it can take the occasional flooding of water and is a great soil retainer. It just isn't ideal for an in town lot! Besides I just love to see Ivy grown up a tree and a Silver Maple can take the stress of it growing without dying. My husband asked if I would like him to cut it off our tree, I yelled NO! it took me 10 years to get it that way! He was afraid it would harm the tree. I like the many different kinds of Oaks that grow around here but don't have any in yard. I learned to plant smaller trees like Redbud and Dogwood here and Drawf fruit trees. We have a Elm tree an American Elm that is the largest in the County, it was in the news paper, it is in the fence row between us and the neighbor. In the paper it is their tree. When limbs were damaged and had to hire someone to cut, it is our tree. Jackie

I was told and it works for me that is you do a dormant spray in an above freezing day in Feb or there abouts, you will kill 90 percent of your troubling borers. It kills the eggs that are dormant on the plants. This has the least affect on the birds or bees. Jackie

When my sister-in-law was up last Pecans wasn't ready, didn't get any this year, kind of spoils you to get others than what is in the store. Whatever kind she has were really sweet. They were worth the work and wait. Any extras some here too! :) Jackie

In a message dated 1/18/02 2:56:52 PM, [email protected] writes: << When we visited in California, we saw palm trees growing everywhere. >> We had one starting in the crack of the concrete patio out back and the house. Got rid of it before it started working on the house and the patio cement! Oh, that reminds me, PacBell put up a fake palm tree in the little local mini-mall. There are palms there and one day I went by and thought I saw something in that tree. The next time I went to the pharmacy (it's in that mall) I parked and looked at the tree and found out it's a cell phone tower. Now, I think that's rather clever! Kitten read where they have some in the shape of fake huge rocks and bushes and other types of trees. Whadda'll they think of next??? =^..^=

In a message dated 1/18/02 2:41:57 PM, [email protected] writes: << native pecans >> Have large box. Will take excess pecans! =^..^=

> we have cedars around here wild and I like them too. As they said about > growing things native to your area, I agree to a point. I am a plant person > and will try many different ones. I do like the cedars, they call a town > close by Cedar City. Jackie Four words: Cedar Rust of Apples. If you grow apples and have brown spots on the fruit, well, the Cedar trees harbor the Rust organism. Pat

> > << Silver Maples are weeds here, they are terrible to have around your home. > >> > > Isn't it "funny" how some plants welcome to some are weeds to others? I just > love seeing those wild cedar trees in OK that look like well trimmed > Christmas trees. I made the mistake of mentioned that to cousins and as the > saying goes "later that same day" they were through telling me what awful > weeds they are and how Okies hate them! They take over. Then, they have > Johnson grass all hate. We don't have that out here. Pepper trees are > pretty and grow like weeds out here so one has to watch out for the sprouts > since they look like pretty little ferns, at first. > > Sandi =^..^= > When we visited in California, we saw palm trees growing everywhere. One was growing in the slots of a common concrete block. I wish I had taken a photo of that. Pat

> Silver Maples are weeds here, they are terrible to have around your home. > They split easy, suck the ground dry and roots pop up everywhere. We made a > mistake by letting one grow in our yard, now we are wondering how we are > going to afford to get it down! Jackie I agree. The other trash trees that people plant here are male Mulberries and Ash trees....oh, and peaches. I don't know where the borers come from, but they come and come and destroy the peace trees like crazy. Pat

> > << Dear All, There is not much that grows in TX. (Pat,before you say > anything) > > that I like. I am a firm believer in planting ONLY indigenous plants. The > > unfortunate thing is there are few offered in local nurseries. Things are > > getting much better as people realize that water is a precious commodity. > > I understand that water is going to be a s precious as oil because we are > > using it faster than it is replenished and there are too many people. > > I like anything heirloom as it thrives in its indigenous area. > > Requires very little water,no or little fertilizer,and virtually no care. > > I have lost so many trees from the drought but they were not meant to be > > grown in TX(Silver Maples) Mesquite is all over the place. The Indians > > ate the beans and ground the pods into flour. They require virtually no > > water. They smell great when burned. Lynn Oh, now you started something! If you haven't done so, you should take a drive over to the SW subcourthouse on Old Granbury Road. Some people have planted a display garden all in native grasses and perennials. These plants are not watered when the lawn is watered. Now, you are saying you don't like the trees? Do you know that Texas has native pine trees, native oaks, and native pecans, just to name a few. Then there are the cottonwoods, the mesquite, the juniper....but one of my favorite native plants is the Desert Willow, Chilopsis linearis. You might want to check out a book on native plants before you say you don't like anything hereabouts because there are lots of them. Also, there are a few nurseries which do sell native plants, the one that comes to mind first is Weston Gardens on Anglin Drive. They even have their own website www.westongardens.com I have two books on native plants. One is Texas Wild by Richard Phelan, and the other is Native Texas Plants by Sally Wasowski with Andy Wasowski. The first book is 242 pages and the second one is 394 pages. That means there is a wealth of info out there about native plants. Texas is like any other state in that it has plenty of native plants. You just need to do some more research. Pat

Yes, We are crusing along the coast and stopping at various ports. It is beautiful. We go to Melboure, Australia in 3 or 4 days. Will fly back from Sidney. One snag. Husband seems to be ill this afternoon. He's prone to bladder infections over the past 20 + years. Runs fever, aches, etc. Will hope it's not but will contact medical on board. Hugs to all, Norma

Patricia: Loved it! I have one about snow and another about building. Will have to find them and give them a try on this list. Thanks, Sandi!

Thought you might enjoy this.... Regards, Patricia Subject: The Gift This is dedicated to every woman who ever attempted to get into a regular workout routine. A must read! Dear Diary... For my fiftieth birthday this year, my husband (the dear) purchased a week of personal training at the local health club for me. Although I am still in great shape since playing on my high school softball team, I decided it would be a good idea to go ahead and give it a try. I called the club and made my reservations with a personal trainer I'll call Bruce, who identified himself as a 31 year old aerobics instructor and model for athletic clothing and swim wear. My husband seemed pleased with my enthusiasm to get started. The club encouraged me to keep a diary of my progress. Monday: Started my day at 6:00 am. Tough to get out of bed, but found it was well worth it when I arrived at the health club to find Bruce waiting for me. He is something of a Greek God - with blond hair, dancing eyes and a dazzling white smile. Woo Hoo!! Bruce gave me a tour and showed me the machines. He took my pulse after five minutes on the treadmill. He was alarmed that my pulse was so fast, but I attribute it to standing next to him in his Lycra aerobic outfit. I enjoyed watching the skillful way in which he conducted his aerobics class after my workout today. Very inspiring. Bruce was encouraging as I did my sit-ups, although my gut was already aching from holding it in the whole time he was around. This is going to be a FANTASTIC week!! Tuesday: I drank a whole pot of coffee, but I finally made it out the door. Was little late from having to stop twice to pee. Bruce made me lie on my back and push a heavy iron bar into the air- then he put weights on it! My legs were a little wobbly on the treadmill, but I made the full mile. Bruce's rewarding smile made it all worthwhile. I feel GREAT!! It's a whole new life for me. Wednesday: The only way I can brush my teeth is by laying on the toothbrush on the counter and moving my mouth back and forth over it. I believe I have a hernia in both pectorals. Driving was OK as long as I didn't try to steer or stop. I parked on top of a GEO in the club parking lot. Bruce was impatient with me, insisting that my screams bothered other club members. His voice is a little too perky for early in the morning and when he scolds, he gets this nasally whine that is VERY annoying. My chest hurt when I got on the treadmill, so Bruce put me on the stair monster. Why the hell would anyone invent a machine to simulate an activity rendered obsolete by elevators? Bruce told me it would help me get in shape and enjoy life. He said some other shit too. Thursday: Bruce was waiting for me with his vampire-like teeth exposed as his thin, cruel lips were pulled back in a full snarl. I couldn't help being a half an hour late, it took me that long to tie my shoes. Bruce took me to work out with dumbbells. When he was not looking, I ran and hid in the ladies' room. He sent Gretchen to find me, then, as punishment, put me on the rowing machine--which I sank. Friday: I hate that bastard Bruce. Skinny, anemic little cheerleader wannabe. If there was a part of my body I could move without unbearable pain, I would beat him with it. Bruce wanted me to work on my triceps. I don't have any triceps! And if you don't want dents in the floor, don't hand me the F#%*=~ barbells or anything that weighs more than a sandwich. The treadmill flung me off and I landed on a health and nutrition teacher. Why couldn't it have been someone softer, like the drama coach or the choir director? Saturday: Bruce left a message on my answering machine in his grating, shrilly voice wondering why I did not show up today. Just hearing him made me want to smash the machine with my heating pad. However, I lacked the strength to even use the TV remote and ended up watching eleven straight hours of the Weather Channel. Sunday: I'm having the Church van pick me up for services today so I can go and thank GOD that this week is over. I will also pray that next year my husband (the CREEP) will choose a gift for me that is fun-like a root canal or a hysterectomy.

In a message dated 1/17/02 8:09:00 PM, [email protected] writes: << The old joke about beer and snails is that they can't burp after drinking the beer, so they die. >> That works for me! Just don't turn me into the animal rights people, PLEASE! LOL Sandi =^..^=

The old joke about beer and snails is that they can't burp after drinking the beer, so they die. Patricia In a message dated 01/17/2002 10:03:07 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Jackie: > > I forgot to add that those slimy pest die happy! ;) What better send off > could they have been given? > > Sandi >

In a message dated 1/17/02 7:59:10 PM, [email protected] writes: << I do put out stale beer in shallow pie (throwaway) tins when we get snails or slugs. >> Jackie: I forgot to add that those slimy pest die happy! ;) What better send off could they have been given? Sandi

In a message dated 1/17/02 7:45:59 PM, [email protected] writes: << Don't have a (Beautiful lawn). Don't use herbicides >> Jackie: We don't use herbicides either because they kill birds and animals. We pull weeds! I do put out stale beer in shallow pie (throwaway) tins when we get snails or slugs. Sandi

Don't have a (Beautiful lawn). Don't use herbicides, seems like when I do kill more flowers than weeds. So I just mow the weeds along with what grass I have. LOL Jackie

I think the one type of grass nobody likes is Bermuda grass (devil grass) since you can't seem to get rid of it even when you have sod put in as lawn. Sandi

we have cedars around here wild and I like them too. As they said about growing things native to your area, I agree to a point. I am a plant person and will try many different ones. I do like the cedars, they call a town close by Cedar City. Jackie