In a message dated 11/7/00 11:12:06 AM, celtic@ticnet.com writes: <<< Thank you very much. That is very informative. I'm still in awe that so much is known about this family. So, if 'Tough' Daniel is Daniel III, then 'Rough' must be same as 'Cuff' and they were Daniel II ? And just noticed the Daniel, son of Daniel III is 'King' Daniel. Bet there's a story there, too! And then there was a 'Saddler' Dan... June>>> <<"I'm so confused!"--Vinnie Barbarino Pat >> Hi June & Pat: If I could remember all this I'd give a test. Does this remind you of "Who's on first?" We've just got to make sure June gets a copy of Dorothy's book! Smiles, Cuz Sandi