Got it! Thanks. June In a message dated 11/7/00 8:11:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, wbwood@sound.net writes: << OK, now everyone pay attention: "Old" Daniel MAUPIN (1700-1788) was a son of Gabriel. "Cuff" Daniel MAUPIN (1727-1803) was a son of "Old" Daniel. "Tough" Daniel MAUPIN (1760-1832) was a son of "Cuff" Daniel (and I assume he is also the one called "Daniel III"). "Saddler" Daniel MAUPIN (1756-1838) was a son of John who was a son of "Old" Daniel. The above is per Dorothy's book. Warren B. Wood >>