Clarence, The census data you have, while not a positive identifier, is a very good clue to a possible relationship. You want to build on that until you confirm it or find that it is not the connection. While the name "Richard" may not be common among the MAUPINs (it may be from a maternal line) the name "George W." is common in the Jesse line. William, the son of Jesse and Lucy (JONES) MAUPIN, went to Adair Co. KY from Henry Co. VA by 1840. Unfortunately, I no longer have a record of some their descendants which might have helped you tie into this line. You will simply have to do the research yourself, but that is half the fun, and you wouldn't want to miss that. Phyllis J. Bauer *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/2/00 at 12:43 AM Clarence Maupin wrote: >Thanks Barb for the reply. My great grandfather George W. Maupin >married Emma Alice Sanders 1882 in Owen Co. Ky. He was 25 yrs. of age. >This would mean he was born in 1857. The 1860 Bath Co. Ky. Census lists a >William Maupin and wife Sarah with a son George age 3. This George would >have been born in 1857 same year as my George W. I jumped to the >conclusion that they were one and the same. I still believe they are the >same person. I also believe that William and Sarah are: William Maupin m. >Sarah(Sally) Dennis 30 Jan. 1833 in Morgan Co.Ky. and my >g.g.grandparents. Sally may have been daughter of Samuel Y. Dennis or at >least a relative as Morgan Co. land sold by a William and Sally was >patented to Samuel Y. Dennis. I have yet to locate this family or a >faction of it in any census later than the 1860 Bath Census. I have been >searching your census indexes to find members of this family, especially >George W. and Richard which is not a name commonly used by the Maupin >Family. They may have moved to another state. Maupin Families listed in >Owen Co.(county where George W. was married) Census of 1870 and 1880 >appear to be of the Thomas Maupin and Louise Barber line. We have a >fine genealogy section at our local library with microfilm of all Ky. >Census and some census of other states. Have some written indexes. >Still unable to locate this family. Help. Thanks. > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:16:47 EST BT2105@aol.com writes: >> Clarence, where do you live? There are several ways to review any >> census >> record. You can order microfilm for a certain county & year from the >> National >> Archives or the Mormon Church or have your public library or >> genealogy >> library do this for you. In order to know which county to order, you >> can copy >> index pages in a printed book on each census in each state you think >> they may >> have been in. If your local library doesn't have a listing, ask them >> to see >> about inter-library lending, or to do a search for you to see which >> library >> nearest you has one. If they can't do that, have them give you >> address of >> genealogical society groups in area of your interest, so you can >> ask someone >> to copy those pages for you. The name MAUPIN isn't really all that >> common,,, >> but when you find MAUPIN, there are many many Williams, & Georges! >> Good luck.Don't forget to check some of the different 'sound alike' >> >> spellings. I have found MAUPIN, MAWPHIN, MOPPIN, MAPPIN, MOPPING, >> MOPEN, & >> many more. >> Barb in centralVA >> >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side of the page. Support RootsWeb for free!

I was reading the email from Madge about the name "Moppin." At the reunion, Bill Albertson brought up the spelling of either Moppin or Mappin and stated that he believed that they were not our Maupins. I think that his reasoning went something like this, but my memory may not be accurate: At one time, one of the Maupins was a census taker and he listed someone with the name Moppin or Mappin as living in a certain place. Bill reasoned, and it made sense to me, that if that had been a Maupin, he would have corrected the spelling or made some mention of it. Denise

That does not mean their name wasn't originally MAUPIN. Many of our ancestors were illiterate and didn't even KNOW how their name was to be spelled. It was up to the "officials" who could read and write to write it down the way they thought it should be written. Of course, most of them were not far ahead of the non-readers and writers, as they spelled phonetically. Thus, you sometimes have different spellings of the same name within the same family. It is reasonable to me, that if an illiterate person had something as important as a deed for land with his name spelled as MOPPIN, because that is the way the County Clerk spelled it, he would prefer that spelling if and when he or his children learned to read and write, thus for generations to come the name would be spelled as MOPPIN rather than MAUPIN. Our ancestors and the officials making the records were seldom fussy about how their names were spelled. In the years of my research experience, I've seen records with several spellings of the same name within the same document! Just about anything is possible as we try to put the lives of our ancestors back together so we can know them better. Only research on these particular families could/would prove if they were connected to the MAUPINs. Phyllis J. Bauer *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/2/00 at 8:38 AM James Watson wrote: >I was reading the email from Madge about the name "Moppin." At the >reunion, Bill Albertson brought up the spelling of either Moppin or >Mappin and stated that he believed that they were not our Maupins. I >think that his reasoning went something like this, but my memory may not >be accurate: At one time, one of the Maupins was a census taker and he >listed someone with the name Moppin or Mappin as living in a certain >place. Bill reasoned, and it made sense to me, that if that had been a >Maupin, he would have corrected the spelling or made some mention of it. > >Denise > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html>

Thanks for the forward from Barb,etc. No luck in Owen County last Monday, but I did feel a closeness to the communities we visited- Monterrey! The library at Owenton stinks! Not much of anything. Also, the courthouse was no help as you already had the marriage certificates for GW and Emma and for Emma and 2nd husband. Questions for you: Did you ever send for a death certificate for George in Frankfort? If not I want to try that. What are the names of the McDaniel sons of Emma? Any residences for them? How did you ever know the name was "George Moppin"? What led you to that name? I still haven't received the court case for the George Moppin at Fort Smith,Arkansas, but doubt that is the one we seek. I have a cousin on mom's side who has done all the work on that side of the family. Would you mind if I bring her in on this search? She is a retired teacher/librarian and is still very active. See you. Madge

To: Phyllis A. Sorry, I can't help you. I have no Daniel in my line other than the first one. My line is: Gabriel Daniel Zachariah Ambrose Drury Kay James Druary, Sr and me, James Druary, Jr -----Original Message----- From: Westabot@aol.com [mailto:Westabot@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:33 PM To: MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-L] Pic of gravemarkers? In a message dated 11/1/00 8:02:43 AM Central Standard Time, dmaupin@poweraisle.com writes: > dmaupin@poweraisle.com This is to the person with the above email address. James Dru Maupin. I think I read you line and you had a Daniel just a few generations back. Do you know if he was from Nebraska, and if he had a sister named Emma? It sounds as though you live in St. Louis. Well, I live in Granite City just across the river and worked in St. Louis for years. My father's mother was Emma Maupin. Thanks. Phyllis A. ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html>

Thanks Barb for the reply. My great grandfather George W. Maupin married Emma Alice Sanders 1882 in Owen Co. Ky. He was 25 yrs. of age. This would mean he was born in 1857. The 1860 Bath Co. Ky. Census lists a William Maupin and wife Sarah with a son George age 3. This George would have been born in 1857 same year as my George W. I jumped to the conclusion that they were one and the same. I still believe they are the same person. I also believe that William and Sarah are: William Maupin m. Sarah(Sally) Dennis 30 Jan. 1833 in Morgan Co.Ky. and my g.g.grandparents. Sally may have been daughter of Samuel Y. Dennis or at least a relative as Morgan Co. land sold by a William and Sally was patented to Samuel Y. Dennis. I have yet to locate this family or a faction of it in any census later than the 1860 Bath Census. I have been searching your census indexes to find members of this family, especially George W. and Richard which is not a name commonly used by the Maupin Family. They may have moved to another state. Maupin Families listed in Owen Co.(county where George W. was married) Census of 1870 and 1880 appear to be of the Thomas Maupin and Louise Barber line. We have a fine genealogy section at our local library with microfilm of all Ky. Census and some census of other states. Have some written indexes. Still unable to locate this family. Help. Thanks. On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:16:47 EST BT2105@aol.com writes: > Clarence, where do you live? There are several ways to review any > census > record. You can order microfilm for a certain county & year from the > National > Archives or the Mormon Church or have your public library or > genealogy > library do this for you. In order to know which county to order, you > can copy > index pages in a printed book on each census in each state you think > they may > have been in. If your local library doesn't have a listing, ask them > to see > about inter-library lending, or to do a search for you to see which > library > nearest you has one. If they can't do that, have them give you > address of > genealogical society groups in area of your interest, so you can > ask someone > to copy those pages for you. The name MAUPIN isn't really all that > common,,, > but when you find MAUPIN, there are many many Williams, & Georges! > Good luck.Don't forget to check some of the different 'sound alike' > > spellings. I have found MAUPIN, MAWPHIN, MOPPIN, MAPPIN, MOPPING, > MOPEN, & > many more. > Barb in centralVA > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

You should contact William Albertson Most of the people at the Maupin reunion in Charlottesville, VA on Oct.26-29 were of your line Anita Strawn Box 102 324 W. Retta St. DeLeon Springs, FL 32130 904-985-4509 astrawn@totcon.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Westabot@aol.com> To: <MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-L] JOHN MAUPIN~FRANCES DABNEY > Sorry, I think I just sent an email directed to the wrong Maupin. It looks > like it is John Maupin, not James Maupin who has the Daniel a few generations > back. So, do you know if your Daniel Maupin had a sister Emma? > > Phyllis A. > > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side of the page. Support RootsWeb for free! >

Hi, I have been following along & sound like all had a nice time.I have talked to Dorothy, as I live close by.She said it was a Wonderful reunion,I did not make it as planned as my Daughter got sick, But did anyone take a picture of all the Maupin's In a group,If so I would love to have one,That would be a Wonderful Picture to Have.Although I know there were a lot of them there, No one said about how many.I did go to the reunion in Fulton, Missouri.& enjoyed it. Maybe this year when we all get together at Fulton We can have a group Picture made.(Just a Idea)Would love to have the other Photo, will send address. Delores (Maupin) Patton Thanks,Dep146@hotmail.com (I believe Dorothy ordered 300 Books for now.) My line-John(7)maupin,Gabriel(23)maupin,Dabney Maupin,Hardin W. Lorenzo,James H. & Myself. Haven't heard to much about Dabney Maupin Married to Polly Shiftlett. Still looking for his Will or some documentation. >From: Norma Nungester <Norma.Nungester@uc.edu> >Reply-To: MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com >To: MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-L] THE MAUPIN 2000 REUNION >Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:21:41 -0500 > >Hi Sandi, > >For all of you who missed the 2000 Reunion, it was very informing and so >great to meet those who were there. It restored my faith in the >warmth and friendliness of humankind. All, Maupins, or their spouses (who >I told were Maupins too), were friendly, warm, kind and shared >laughter and humorous stories. > >I met two women who reminded me so much of my sister. They had the same >blue eyes with a dark blue ring around the outside and looked enough >alike to know they were related. I was able to introduce, Ethel Clark to >my sister and when they looked at each other, they both laughed and >said, "Yes. We do resemble." > Norma > > >SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/31/00 12:05:40 PM, mosbycat@inna.net writes: > > > > << And I would like to second that rousing cheer. The reunion was >nicely > > done..... Ann >> > > > > Hi Cousins: > > > > I keep hearing how nice the reunion was but have yet to hear interesting > > stories of where you all went and what you did. Maybe each one who went >had > > a favorite trip or lecture, etc. they would like to share with we poor >little > > old cousins who weren't able to make it back to VA. > > > > Thanks, Cuz Sandi :) > > > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > > Please don't post private information about living people without >permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in >touch with millions. ><http://cgi.rootsweb.con/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi> > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I want at least one copy of Dorothy's Book. Did I miss an announcement, where and how much to I send? Ramona Hale 18726 State RT F St James, MO 65559 At , you wrote: >In a message dated 11/1/00 3:55:30 AM, jdwatson@erols.com writes: > ><< I would like three copies of Dorothy's book. I don't know who's keeping >the list, but whoever it is, would you please add my order. > >> > >Hi Denise: > >I've added you to the book list. > >Cuz Sandi :) > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. ><http://pml.rootsweb.com> >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com

Sorry, I think I just sent an email directed to the wrong Maupin. It looks like it is John Maupin, not James Maupin who has the Daniel a few generations back. So, do you know if your Daniel Maupin had a sister Emma? Phyllis A.

In a message dated 11/1/00 8:02:43 AM Central Standard Time, dmaupin@poweraisle.com writes: > dmaupin@poweraisle.com This is to the person with the above email address. James Dru Maupin. I think I read you line and you had a Daniel just a few generations back. Do you know if he was from Nebraska, and if he had a sister named Emma? It sounds as though you live in St. Louis. Well, I live in Granite City just across the river and worked in St. Louis for years. My father's mother was Emma Maupin. Thanks. Phyllis A.

Denise, You are welcome. The subject is fascinating to me too. There is so much information about it that I am sure it will keep you very busy. I wish I had found out more from my father, but he was a quite man and a very private person. Also, he didn't know much about his family, and was an only child. His father (Marion Westfall) died when he was twelve and I was 3 when his mother (Emma Maupin) died. He had no other relatives that he knew of. He passed away a few years ago at the age of 84. Therefore, I had no way of finding out anything until I found this site. Everyone is so kind and informative. Phyllis Abbott Director of Operations Phillorie Desktop Publishing Phone 618-451-9040 Fax: 618-877-4075 Email: Phillorie@hotmail.com Or westabot@aol.com

Westabot@aol.com wrote: > > Guild Press has a CD ROM with the history of the border wars including the > Quantrill Raiders and Jessie James. It is supposed to be historically correct > and the most accurate account of all known names. There was also a book > written in the 1877 called Civil War Book "Noted Guerrillas" 1877. It was > reproduced in 1966 and can be found at used book stores. John Newman Edwards > also wrote a book about the same subject in 1867 called Shelby and His Men . > I have been told that his books are the most accurate. > > Someone I know does have this information and this is what he said "Also I > have found reference to John (and several other Maupins) all in the western > theater in the GP CD ROM." The ones who want to know should look for this CD > or possibly the book. I think it may be your best bet. You might want to try > a search engine. This is also information he gave to me: "Also I recall > seeing John Maupin listed in Quantrill's roster - I assume this is why you > were interested in 'noted guerillas'. The Official Records Civil War CD-ROM > More comments from my source: "Guild Press is 1 of 3 vendors who advertise - > CDROMs of the Official Records > for Armies (and Navies also). Reading off a tube is not as nice as an old > book but you cannot beat the search capability for research. They list for > $70 U.S. - I found a vendor by just searching thru Yahoo who sold it for > $55. > I may recall the name Maupin but it may have been only listed in 1 or 2 > Quantrill/Anderson roster lists I have gathered which were published in > certain books (and web sites). I'll have a quick look for any hits on the > name. > I have had good luck with Amazon finding reprints of a couple of old books - > they search various used book stores. > > Here is a web site devoted to a researcher. There are many Civil War buffs > out there and you can probably find many more. How accurate they are, who > knows. This site has John Maupin down as John Maughn and claims he was from > St. Louis. I don't think that is accurate. <A > HREF="http://www.geocities.com:0080/~sterlingprice/guerilla.htm"> > http://www.geocities.com:0080/~sterlingprice/guerilla.htm</A> > Another site with a list of the men: <A > HREF="http://www.everton.com/usa/GENEALOG/GENEALOG.QUANTRIL"> > http://www.everton.com/usa/GENEALOG/GENEALOG.QUANTRIL</A> this site lists two > Maupins: > Maupin, John + Quantrill > > Maupin, Thomas + Quantrill Killed 1865 > Breihan says that he became a Texas cattleman after the war. > > This is another site with a list of Anderson's men: > <A HREF="http://www.mcmsys.com/~nblock/">http://www.mcmsys.com/~nblock/</A> > > Another site under the Quantrill Flag > <A HREF="http://www.rulen.com/partisan/">http://www.rulen.com/partisan/</A> > this site lists: > Maupin, John Quantrill Was at Lawrence August 21, 1863. Later went to Texas > with George Shephard but soon returned. Attended reunions. Under the Museum > Archive the have the reunion photos posted. > > Here are a few sites that either lists or has just about every book ever > written on the border wars:<A > HREF="http://www.blueandgrey.com/html/b_g_books.html"> > http://www.blueandgrey.com/html/b_g_books.html</A> > <A HREF="http://www.usmo.com/~momollus/books/Cwmo.htm"> > http://www.usmo.com/~momollus/books/Cwmo.htm</A> > > John is the one you usually see in the historical records, but my friend > tells me there are several listed on the CD. > > My father's mother was a Maupin from Putnam County and she told my dad that > Quantrill's men had stopped by their farm to get fresh horses for a trip to > St. Louis. She was a very small child. She knew that her dad knew some of > them and thought he had a relative in that group that came by for horses. > Edwards' book is probably the most quoted and excerpt from it are all over > the Internet. This site, which is a government site, references Edwards list > of names as accurate. <A > HREF="http://homepages.go.com/~snowrose1/farms/Misc.html"> > http://homepages.go.com/~snowrose1/farms/Misc.html</A> > There are many who see Edwards book as accurate and others who do not. This > is from a critic of the book. > Guerrilla Mythmaker Exraordinaire > As the years passed by and Bleeding Kansas and the Civil War lost their > immediate hold on people's hearts and minds, a professional journalist and > former Confederate cavalryman named John N. Edwards waged a one-man war to > refurbish the image of the Missouri guerrillas. How well he succeeded can be > seen in his extraordinary influence on subsequent historians of the war in > the West. > > Edwards, who had served under Brig. Gen. Jo Shelby during the war, set about > in the mid-1870s to change the public's perception of wartimes Bushwhackers > from wanton killers to noble--if improbable--knights of a gallant > brotherhood. In his book Noted Guerrillas, Edwards concentrated on the > much-maligned historical figure of William Clarke Quantrill, portraying his > as a "bashful and timid" youth who "knew nothing of the tiger that was in him > until death had been dashed against his eyes in numberless and brutal ways, > and until the blood of his own kith and kin had been sprinkled plentifully > upon things that his hands touched." > > Disregarding Quantrill's rather unsavory prewar life, Edwards excused the > guerrilla leader's undoubted excesses as mere self-defense and acts of honor. > "He lifted the black flag in self-defense," wrote Edwards, "and fought as > became a free man and a hero." > > Other guerrillas also found themselves recast in the heroic mold. Fletch > Taylor, a Clay County Bushwhacker, was depicted as "a low massive > Hercules...built like a quarterhorse, knowing nature well, seeing equally in > darkness and light, rapacious for exercise, having an anatomy like a steam > engine, impervious to fatigue like a Cossack, and to hunger like an Apache, > he always hunted a fight and always fought for a funeral." > > Quantrill, in Edwards' recounting, was "a living, breathing, aggressive, > all-powerful reality...viligant, merciless, a terror by day and a superhuman > if not a supernatural thing when there was upon the earth blackness and > darkness." But even Edwards could not totally refurbish Quantrill's image. > With a notable lack of apology, the writer noted that Quantrill and his men, > when faced with captured Union soldiers who "begged for mercy upon their > knees, heeded the prayer as a wolf might the bleating of a lamb." > > Despite such lapses, however, Edwards' book proved influential, making > Quantrill the focal point of nearly all subsequent historical accounts of the > Kansas-Missouri fighting, at the expense of other, often times more > successful guerrillas like "Bloody Bill" Anderson and George Todd. And the > whitewashed image of Missouri Bushwhackers as Southern cavaliers, whatever > the true historical facts, had proved irresistible to a certain segment of > writers and apologists in the 115 years since Edwards' book. > Cowan Brew > > However you choose to view it, that facts as far as names and events go are > probably the most accurate. The history buffs I know tell me that the Edwards > book may be the most accurate for statistics. It can be purchased at: > OAK HILLS PUBLISHING > P. O. Box 8012 > Springfield, MO 65801 > ohp@pcis.net > You can also search the Internet, ABE books, Amazon finds books that are out > of print for people. I'm not sure about the CD mentioned by my friend. > Hope this helps some of you who are interested. > Phyllis Abbott > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Phyllis--Thank you so much for what you wrote on the MAupins & Quantrill. I am really fascinated by this whole episode which I don't know much about. I appreciate so much! Denise Maupin Watson

Guild Press has a CD ROM with the history of the border wars including the Quantrill Raiders and Jessie James. It is supposed to be historically correct and the most accurate account of all known names. There was also a book written in the 1877 called Civil War Book "Noted Guerrillas" 1877. It was reproduced in 1966 and can be found at used book stores. John Newman Edwards also wrote a book about the same subject in 1867 called Shelby and His Men . I have been told that his books are the most accurate. Someone I know does have this information and this is what he said "Also I have found reference to John (and several other Maupins) all in the western theater in the GP CD ROM." The ones who want to know should look for this CD or possibly the book. I think it may be your best bet. You might want to try a search engine. This is also information he gave to me: "Also I recall seeing John Maupin listed in Quantrill's roster - I assume this is why you were interested in 'noted guerillas'. The Official Records Civil War CD-ROM More comments from my source: "Guild Press is 1 of 3 vendors who advertise - CDROMs of the Official Records for Armies (and Navies also). Reading off a tube is not as nice as an old book but you cannot beat the search capability for research. They list for $70 U.S. - I found a vendor by just searching thru Yahoo who sold it for $55. I may recall the name Maupin but it may have been only listed in 1 or 2 Quantrill/Anderson roster lists I have gathered which were published in certain books (and web sites). I'll have a quick look for any hits on the name. I have had good luck with Amazon finding reprints of a couple of old books - they search various used book stores. Here is a web site devoted to a researcher. There are many Civil War buffs out there and you can probably find many more. How accurate they are, who knows. This site has John Maupin down as John Maughn and claims he was from St. Louis. I don't think that is accurate. <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com:0080/~sterlingprice/guerilla.htm"> http://www.geocities.com:0080/~sterlingprice/guerilla.htm</A> Another site with a list of the men: <A HREF="http://www.everton.com/usa/GENEALOG/GENEALOG.QUANTRIL"> http://www.everton.com/usa/GENEALOG/GENEALOG.QUANTRIL</A> this site lists two Maupins: Maupin, John + Quantrill Maupin, Thomas + Quantrill Killed 1865 Breihan says that he became a Texas cattleman after the war. This is another site with a list of Anderson's men: <A HREF="http://www.mcmsys.com/~nblock/">http://www.mcmsys.com/~nblock/</A> Another site under the Quantrill Flag <A HREF="http://www.rulen.com/partisan/">http://www.rulen.com/partisan/</A> this site lists: Maupin, John Quantrill Was at Lawrence August 21, 1863. Later went to Texas with George Shephard but soon returned. Attended reunions. Under the Museum Archive the have the reunion photos posted. Here are a few sites that either lists or has just about every book ever written on the border wars:<A HREF="http://www.blueandgrey.com/html/b_g_books.html"> http://www.blueandgrey.com/html/b_g_books.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.usmo.com/~momollus/books/Cwmo.htm"> http://www.usmo.com/~momollus/books/Cwmo.htm</A> John is the one you usually see in the historical records, but my friend tells me there are several listed on the CD. My father's mother was a Maupin from Putnam County and she told my dad that Quantrill's men had stopped by their farm to get fresh horses for a trip to St. Louis. She was a very small child. She knew that her dad knew some of them and thought he had a relative in that group that came by for horses. Edwards' book is probably the most quoted and excerpt from it are all over the Internet. This site, which is a government site, references Edwards list of names as accurate. <A HREF="http://homepages.go.com/~snowrose1/farms/Misc.html"> http://homepages.go.com/~snowrose1/farms/Misc.html</A> There are many who see Edwards book as accurate and others who do not. This is from a critic of the book. Guerrilla Mythmaker Exraordinaire As the years passed by and Bleeding Kansas and the Civil War lost their immediate hold on people's hearts and minds, a professional journalist and former Confederate cavalryman named John N. Edwards waged a one-man war to refurbish the image of the Missouri guerrillas. How well he succeeded can be seen in his extraordinary influence on subsequent historians of the war in the West. Edwards, who had served under Brig. Gen. Jo Shelby during the war, set about in the mid-1870s to change the public's perception of wartimes Bushwhackers from wanton killers to noble--if improbable--knights of a gallant brotherhood. In his book Noted Guerrillas, Edwards concentrated on the much-maligned historical figure of William Clarke Quantrill, portraying his as a "bashful and timid" youth who "knew nothing of the tiger that was in him until death had been dashed against his eyes in numberless and brutal ways, and until the blood of his own kith and kin had been sprinkled plentifully upon things that his hands touched." Disregarding Quantrill's rather unsavory prewar life, Edwards excused the guerrilla leader's undoubted excesses as mere self-defense and acts of honor. "He lifted the black flag in self-defense," wrote Edwards, "and fought as became a free man and a hero." Other guerrillas also found themselves recast in the heroic mold. Fletch Taylor, a Clay County Bushwhacker, was depicted as "a low massive Hercules...built like a quarterhorse, knowing nature well, seeing equally in darkness and light, rapacious for exercise, having an anatomy like a steam engine, impervious to fatigue like a Cossack, and to hunger like an Apache, he always hunted a fight and always fought for a funeral." Quantrill, in Edwards' recounting, was "a living, breathing, aggressive, all-powerful reality...viligant, merciless, a terror by day and a superhuman if not a supernatural thing when there was upon the earth blackness and darkness." But even Edwards could not totally refurbish Quantrill's image. With a notable lack of apology, the writer noted that Quantrill and his men, when faced with captured Union soldiers who "begged for mercy upon their knees, heeded the prayer as a wolf might the bleating of a lamb." Despite such lapses, however, Edwards' book proved influential, making Quantrill the focal point of nearly all subsequent historical accounts of the Kansas-Missouri fighting, at the expense of other, often times more successful guerrillas like "Bloody Bill" Anderson and George Todd. And the whitewashed image of Missouri Bushwhackers as Southern cavaliers, whatever the true historical facts, had proved irresistible to a certain segment of writers and apologists in the 115 years since Edwards' book. Cowan Brew However you choose to view it, that facts as far as names and events go are probably the most accurate. The history buffs I know tell me that the Edwards book may be the most accurate for statistics. It can be purchased at: OAK HILLS PUBLISHING P. O. Box 8012 Springfield, MO 65801 ohp@pcis.net You can also search the Internet, ABE books, Amazon finds books that are out of print for people. I'm not sure about the CD mentioned by my friend. Hope this helps some of you who are interested. Phyllis Abbott

The disheveled Maupin gravesite in Williamsburg is, according to William (who was up on this topic just like he was on every other topic -simply amazing) from the Jesse Cole Maupin line. He has been trying to get permission from Historic Williamsburg to clean it up, but he has had no success. Apparently there is some litigation involving it and no one can cut through the mess. We saw it for the first time five or six years ago and my then ten year old daughter got a kick out of seeing John Maupin's grave. John Maupin (still alive at the tender old age of 50)

Delores Patton wrote: > > Hi, I have been following along & sound like all had a nice time.I have > talked to Dorothy, as I live close by.She said it was a Wonderful reunion,I > did not make it as planned as my Daughter got sick, But did anyone take a > picture of all the Maupin's In a group,If so I would love to have one,That > would be a Wonderful Picture to Have.Although I know there were a lot of > them there, No one said about how many.I did go to the reunion in Fulton, > Missouri.& enjoyed it. Maybe this year when we all get together at Fulton We > can have a group Picture made.(Just a Idea)Would love to have the other > Photo, will send address. Delores (Maupin) Patton Thanks,Dep146@hotmail.com > (I believe Dorothy ordered 300 Books for now.) > My line-John(7)maupin,Gabriel(23)maupin,Dabney Maupin,Hardin W. > Lorenzo,James H. & Myself. Haven't heard to much about Dabney Maupin Married > to Polly Shiftlett. Still looking for his Will or some documentation. > > >From: Norma Nungester <Norma.Nungester@uc.edu> > >Reply-To: MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-L] THE MAUPIN 2000 REUNION > >Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:21:41 -0500 > > > >Hi Sandi, > > > >For all of you who missed the 2000 Reunion, it was very informing and so > >great to meet those who were there. It restored my faith in the > >warmth and friendliness of humankind. All, Maupins, or their spouses (who > >I told were Maupins too), were friendly, warm, kind and shared > >laughter and humorous stories. > > > >I met two women who reminded me so much of my sister. They had the same > >blue eyes with a dark blue ring around the outside and looked enough > >alike to know they were related. I was able to introduce, Ethel Clark to > >my sister and when they looked at each other, they both laughed and > >said, "Yes. We do resemble." > > Norma > > > > > >SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 10/31/00 12:05:40 PM, mosbycat@inna.net writes: > > > > > > << And I would like to second that rousing cheer. The reunion was > >nicely > > > done..... Ann >> > > > > > > Hi Cousins: > > > > > > I keep hearing how nice the reunion was but have yet to hear interesting > > > stories of where you all went and what you did. Maybe each one who went > >had > > > a favorite trip or lecture, etc. they would like to share with we poor > >little > > > old cousins who weren't able to make it back to VA. > > > > > > Thanks, Cuz Sandi :) > > > > > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > > > Please don't post private information about living people without > >permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > > > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > > > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in > >touch with millions. > ><http://cgi.rootsweb.con/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi> > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > <http://pml.rootsweb.com> > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com Hi--As far as I am aware, there was no group picture taken, which would have been a great idea. Sorry I didn't think to suggest it. Denise

MAUPIN BOOK WANT LIST B = BOOK S = SUPPLEMENT ALBERT M. COPE - amcope@qserve.net - 4 B + 4 S ANITA - astrawn@totcon.com - 4 B ANNA [MAUPIN] BREEDLOVE - BILANA51@aol.com - 2 B AMY - tlubbock@nts-online.net - 1 B + 1 S AUDREY BENNETT - Audrey_Ann@msn.com - 1 B + 1 S B F MAUPIN - BFMAUPIN@webtv.net - 5 B + 5 S BETTY - bettydre@brightok.net - 1 B + S BONNIE L. [MAUPIN] HUTH - huthb@swbell.net - 1 B + 1 S BRENDA CLARK - SCBC@aol.com - 2 B CARLA RITCHIE - cjr@one.net - 1 B + 1 S CAROL BREEDEN - cbreeden@iquest.net - 3 B CAROLYN FOOTE - GordonFoote@compuserve.com - 1 B + 1 S CHARLOTTE MEEKS - donchar@prodigy.net - 1 B DAVID MAUPIN - MaupinD@missouri.edu - 3 B DEB McNAY - va.debs@worldnet.att.net - 1 B DEBBIE LOGAN - debbylogan@juno.com - 3 B + S DEBORA [MAUPIN] LINDSAY - djmaup00@email.uky.edu - 3 B + 3 S DENISE - jdwatson@erols.com - 3 B DIANNE L. MAUPIN - DMaupin@Kronos.com - 2 B DON HAVLICEK - n8de@thepoint.net - 3 B + 3 S DONNA DUWE - DLDUWE - 1 B + 1 S DONNA J. MAUPIN - djmaup00@email.uky.edu - 4 B + 4 S DOROTHY NEAL SNEAD - celtic@ticnet.com (SEE PAT FLEURY) 1 S DOUGLAS MAUPIN - dmaupin@hotmail.com - 1 B EDGAR D. BYLER, III - edby3@netease.net - 1 B + 1 S ELIZABETH BROOMFIELD - tnbroom@usit.net - 1 B EQUEENER - miscue@mindspring.com - 2 B FRENCHIE DePRIEST - rd12515@navix.net - 1 GARY WESCOTT - gdwes@swbell.net - 1 B + 1 S HARLEIGH WINKLER - sew@goldrush.com - 1 B + 1 S IRA SHARP DENNIS - TOOTIED@cox-internet.com - 1 B + 1 S JACKIE MILLER - ROSAMUNDI4 - 1 B + 1 S JAMES MAUPIN - jmaupin@chartertn.net - 3 B JEANNE FRUH - Jeannefruh - 1 B + 1 S JOANNE THOMAS - N7wry - 1 B JOHN W. MAUPIN - Jwmaupin@aol.com - 1 B + 1 S JUDY MAUPIN - Jlmaupin@aol.com - 2 B JUDI TEUSCHER - DanJudy - 1 B JUNE - June in CA - 1 B + 1 S KAY ANDERSON - Katande@aol.com - 1 S KAY SIBERT - CKBIRDGEN@aol.com - 2 S KIM HALL - kimberley.hall@worldnet.att.net - 2 B + 2 S KIM MAUPIN - kallen@scottcompanies.com - 1 B LEANNA - leanna@seark.net - 5 B + 5 S LINDA - BLNe4@aol.com - 1 B + 1 S LINDA BERGMAN - Lindalayman - 2 B + 2 S LINDA [MAUPIN] NOEL - johnsong@harborside.com - 3 S LINDA VALENTINE - GLVALENT@southernco.com - 1 S LORRAINE ABERNATHY - wabernat@ridgecrest.ca.us - 2 S MARGARET SHELTON - mshelton@calweb.com - 1 S MARY - mlwwaw@puma.sirinet.net - 1 B + 1 S MAX GAIL MAUPIN - mgm148@rollanet.org - 3 B + 3 S MELANIE JACKSON - MJack2160 - 1 B + 1 S MICHAEL FISHER - flynfish@c-zone.net - 2 B MICKIE DAVIS - mickied@c2i2.com - 1 B + 1 S MONA HALE - monahale@rollanet.org - 1 B NANCY - slusser@indy.net - 1 B + 1 S NORMA NUNGESTER - Norma.Nungester@uc.edu - 3 B + 3 S PAT FLUERY- celtic@ticnet.com - 3 B + 3 S PAT C - CARRIKER6@aol.com - 2 B + 2 S PAT KANTZER - mkdoc@nemr.net - 1 S PATRICIA MARLOWE - PIMM1 - 5 B + 5 S PHYLLIS ABBOTT - Westabot - 2 B + 2 S PHYLLIS BAUER - pjbauer@mc.net - 2 S RAMONA A. HALE - monahale@rollanet.org - 1 B RONDA CURTIS - robertcurtis@worldnet.att.net - 1 B + 1 S SANDI - Sandi.Housouer@wnco.com - 1 B + 1 S SANDI CARTER - SandKatC@aol.com - 1 B SARAH JANE [MAUPIN] HAWKINS - jhawkins@worldinter.net - 3 B + 3 S SHARON MURPHY - genores@yahoo.com - 1 B SHARRON SMITH- phobee@mail.bright.net - 3 B + 3 S SHERRY MASON - oldva@pinn.net - 1 B + 1 S SHIRLEY [MAUPIN] BROWN - lulu816@earthlink.net - 2 B SUSAN VIRDEN - Svirdenges@aol.com - 2 B TERRY L. MAUPIN - Tlmaupin - 1 B THOMAS M. AYCOCK - Taycock@aol.com - 1 B VI - star58@thegrid.net - 1 S VICCI - snyvicci@hotmail.com - 1 B VICKI O'BRYANT - verob@theramp.net - 4 B + 4 S VICKI ROSS - Cintrfire810@cs.com - 1 B + 1 S

Dear Maupins: I missed some of the Reunion 2000 activities and am very grateful for those who are posting their information. Yes! I was there in body but a broken tooth and an absessed one behind it necessitated my going to a dentist and having them both pulled. In spite of the pain and pain pills, I refused to give up and attended as much as I could. I was by myself the first day and no one looked at me as if I were some strange animal. All were friendly and surprise, surprise several sat down, talked and had lunch with me. Appartently my bulging right chin didn't deter them in the least. Nomra Norma Nungester wrote: > Hi Sandi, > > For all of you who missed the 2000 Reunion, it was very informing and so great to meet those who were there. It restored my faith in the > warmth and friendliness of humankind. All, Maupins, or their spouses (who I told were Maupins too), were friendly, warm, kind and shared > laughter and humorous stories. > > I met two women who reminded me so much of my sister. They had the same blue eyes with a dark blue ring around the outside and looked enough > alike to know they were related. I was able to introduce, Ethel Clark to my sister and when they looked at each other, they both laughed and > said, "Yes. We do resemble." > Norma > > SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/31/00 12:05:40 PM, mosbycat@inna.net writes: > > > > << And I would like to second that rousing cheer. The reunion was nicely > > done..... Ann >> > > > > Hi Cousins: > > > > I keep hearing how nice the reunion was but have yet to hear interesting > > stories of where you all went and what you did. Maybe each one who went had > > a favorite trip or lecture, etc. they would like to share with we poor little > > old cousins who weren't able to make it back to VA. > > > > Thanks, Cuz Sandi :) > > > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > > Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > <http://cgi.rootsweb.con/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi>

Sandi, I am signed up for 1 book. Please also sign me up for 1 update also. Thank you Sharon Murphy genores@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/

In a message dated 11/1/00 11:02:37 AM, mgm148@rollanet.org writes: << By the way, Bill mentioned you several times and praised you for all the hard work you were doing. You should feel proud. >> Hi Bettye: I'm blushing! I don't consider this hard work though. It's fun for me. But, Bill is a darling to say so! Best, Cuz Sandi