I think that what Bill meant was that "SO FAR, all that have been identified, go back to Gabriel and Maria (Hersent) Maupin," with the exception of the New Yorkers. The chances are 99.9% that every Maupin you find in the phone books go back to Gabriel and Maria, but there is always the outside chance that a few don't. It is a fascinating thought that one couple were the start of the vast majority of Maupins in the US, not to mention those of us who do not carry the name! Phyllis *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/2/00 at 1:49 PM JuneinCA@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/2/00 6:28:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, >jdwatson@erols.com writes: > ><< One thing of interest that Bill mentioned at the reunion was that he has > only found 2 Maupins--they live in NY--who are not related to Gabriel > and Marie. He said all other Maupins in the country are related to us. > Denise>> > >Isn't that just fascinating? How/Why? Wonder if there are other last names >with that kind of history??? When I first started looking for my husband's >Maupins, and people on this list would say oh yes, that's so and so -- we >have that line back to the 1600s, and i'm thinking yeah right how could they >possibly know? totally amazing! How could it be that there weren't/aren't >more people with that name still immigrating from wherever & thru the >years?? Does anyone have contact with current Maupins in other countries? > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side of the page. Support RootsWeb for free!

Hi Sandi, You are correct. I printed off a copy at home. Both John and Thoma (my ggrandfather) were listed as Moppin. Norma SandKatC@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/2/00 5:40:48 AM, jdwatson@erols.com writes: > > << name Moppin >> > > Hi: > > Can't remember just which one, but on one old census my John Maupin was > listed as John Moppin. I wonder if it could have been the census taker who > couldn't spell it and just did his best without asking????????????? > > Best, Cuz Sandi > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side of the page. Support RootsWeb for free!

In a message dated 11/2/00 10:52:58 AM, JuneinCA@aol.com writes: << Does anyone have contact with current Maupins in other countries? >> June: We have a Maupin in Montreal whose people are still in France. He has snail mailed them for information. Best, Cousin Sandi

In a message dated 11/2/00 6:28:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, jdwatson@erols.com writes: << One thing of interest that Bill mentioned at the reunion was that he has only found 2 Maupins--they live in NY--who are not related to Gabriel and Marie. He said all other Maupins in the country are related to us. Denise>> Isn't that just fascinating? How/Why? Wonder if there are other last names with that kind of history??? When I first started looking for my husband's Maupins, and people on this list would say oh yes, that's so and so -- we have that line back to the 1600s, and i'm thinking yeah right how could they possibly know? totally amazing! How could it be that there weren't/aren't more people with that name still immigrating from wherever & thru the years?? Does anyone have contact with current Maupins in other countries?

Hi Cousins: Does anyone know the dates for the MO reunion? I'm planning on being in OK the first part of June for the Fitzpatrick/Maupin annual reunion. Cuz Sandi :)

I too would like to be on the mailing list. Could someone give my name to Bill or Loren for Dorothy. I will send mailing information when contacted by one of them. Thanks......Amy Headley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Maupin" <mgm148@rollanet.org> To: <MAUPIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MAUPIN-L] Mo Reunion > ______________________________________________________ > Denise: I would ask Bill or Loren Adams to contact Dorothy. She will > put you on her address list. She is the one who mails out the letter > with all the details. While the actual reunion in held on a Sunday, > several of us go on Saturday and get together for dinner. Good > visiting. Hope you can make it to Missouri. Max Gail Maupin, Rolla, > Missouri > ____________________________ > > > >I have never gone to a Maupin Reunion, other than the 4 I've been to in > >VA. However, this summer I might be able to attend the MO reunion. How > >do I get on the list to find out the details, and otherwise be invited > >to it? Can someone let me know. > > > >Love, Denise > > > > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > >How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets > >a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and > >click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side > >of the page. Support RootsWeb for free! > > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html> >

In a message dated 11/2/00 5:40:48 AM, jdwatson@erols.com writes: << name Moppin >> Hi: Can't remember just which one, but on one old census my John Maupin was listed as John Moppin. I wonder if it could have been the census taker who couldn't spell it and just did his best without asking????????????? Best, Cuz Sandi

John, Thank you for the information. My grandmother left home at 16 and stayed in touch with her sisters, but she did not know what became of the brother Daniel. William has given me my line, however, I cannot seem to find the email. He also told me what became of Daniel. The research William has done is amazing. Thanks again. Phyllis A.

Thank you, but I did realize that just after I sent the email. I was thinking of another person in this group. Thanks for responding. Phyllis A.

______________________________________________________ Denise: I would ask Bill or Loren Adams to contact Dorothy. She will put you on her address list. She is the one who mails out the letter with all the details. While the actual reunion in held on a Sunday, several of us go on Saturday and get together for dinner. Good visiting. Hope you can make it to Missouri. Max Gail Maupin, Rolla, Missouri ____________________________ >I have never gone to a Maupin Reunion, other than the 4 I've been to in >VA. However, this summer I might be able to attend the MO reunion. How >do I get on the list to find out the details, and otherwise be invited >to it? Can someone let me know. > >Love, Denise > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets >a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and >click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side >of the page. Support RootsWeb for free!

My grandfather William Henry Maupin, Fort Worth Texas was listed in Census as Willie Moppin, as a child, by his disinterested step father. I give credibility to those searches that turn up variant spelling.

Phyllis J. Bauer wrote: > > Some immigrants could read or at least sign their names, but as they pushed > westward and the schooling became less important (more important how to > teach your son to shoot a squirrel and your daughter to preserve food for > the coming winter) the second and third generations sometimes could not > read or write. My Jesse Maupin, Jr. could at least sign his name, but his > children could not. This is probably because they were growing up on the > frontier, were orphans, and simply did not have the schooling. > > Phyllis > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 11/2/00 at 9:50 AM James Watson wrote: > > >Phyllis--I was just thinking of somethinig. As I said, my husband who is > >an ameteur historian totally agrees with you that the colonists did not > >have a standardized spelling system, and spelled it how it sounded. > >However, my son Jamie is 1st year student at UVA and is taking a course > >called "Reformation Europe". He just did a very long research paper on > >John Calvin and Calvinism. Now, all of the Huguenots were Calvinists? > >Well, one of the indicia of the Calvinist movement, according to the > >books he had out, was that it created a strong and EDUCATED family unit. > >They were all taught to read so that they could interpret Scripture for > >themselves. (This is interesting in light of what's going on with the > >Texas Baptist Convention right now--possible split from SBC). Then how > >could the Huguenot Maupins have been so illiterate? Do you have any info > >on that? > > > >Love, Denise > > > > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the > author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html> > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > <http://pml.rootsweb.com> > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com Phyllis--That is a wonderful explanation. I had never thought of it in that light. But considering the hardships these people lived under, it's no wonder that they didn't have time for "schooling." Thanks for that info. Love, Denise

Phyllis--I was just thinking of somethinig. As I said, my husband who is an ameteur historian totally agrees with you that the colonists did not have a standardized spelling system, and spelled it how it sounded. However, my son Jamie is 1st year student at UVA and is taking a course called "Reformation Europe". He just did a very long research paper on John Calvin and Calvinism. Now, all of the Huguenots were Calvinists? Well, one of the indicia of the Calvinist movement, according to the books he had out, was that it created a strong and EDUCATED family unit. They were all taught to read so that they could interpret Scripture for themselves. (This is interesting in light of what's going on with the Texas Baptist Convention right now--possible split from SBC). Then how could the Huguenot Maupins have been so illiterate? Do you have any info on that? Love, Denise

I have never gone to a Maupin Reunion, other than the 4 I've been to in VA. However, this summer I might be able to attend the MO reunion. How do I get on the list to find out the details, and otherwise be invited to it? Can someone let me know. Love, Denise

> Clarence, > > The census data you have, while not a positive identifier, is a very good > clue to a possible relationship. You want to build on that until you > confirm it or find that it is not the connection. > > While the name "Richard" may not be common among the MAUPINs (it may be > from a maternal line) the name "George W." is common in the Jesse line. > William, the son of Jesse and Lucy (JONES) MAUPIN, went to Adair Co. KY > from Henry Co. VA by 1840. Unfortunately, I no longer have a record of > some their descendants which might have helped you tie into this line. You > will simply have to do the research yourself, but that is half the fun, and > you wouldn't want to miss that. > > Phyllis J. Bauer On the other hand, it seems as if every family in the country was naming their male children after George Washington for quite some time. Pat

Phyllis J. Bauer wrote: > > That does not mean their name wasn't originally MAUPIN. Many of our > ancestors were illiterate and didn't even KNOW how their name was to be > spelled. It was up to the "officials" who could read and write to write it > down the way they thought it should be written. Of course, most of them > were not far ahead of the non-readers and writers, as they spelled > phonetically. Thus, you sometimes have different spellings of the same > name within the same family. > > It is reasonable to me, that if an illiterate person had something as > important as a deed for land with his name spelled as MOPPIN, because that > is the way the County Clerk spelled it, he would prefer that spelling if > and when he or his children learned to read and write, thus for generations > to come the name would be spelled as MOPPIN rather than MAUPIN. > > Our ancestors and the officials making the records were seldom fussy about > how their names were spelled. In the years of my research experience, I've > seen records with several spellings of the same name within the same > document! > > Just about anything is possible as we try to put the lives of our ancestors > back together so we can know them better. Only research on these > particular families could/would prove if they were connected to the > MAUPINs. > > Phyllis J. Bauer > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 11/2/00 at 8:38 AM James Watson wrote: > > >I was reading the email from Madge about the name "Moppin." At the > >reunion, Bill Albertson brought up the spelling of either Moppin or > >Mappin and stated that he believed that they were not our Maupins. I > >think that his reasoning went something like this, but my memory may not > >be accurate: At one time, one of the Maupins was a census taker and he > >listed someone with the name Moppin or Mappin as living in a certain > >place. Bill reasoned, and it made sense to me, that if that had been a > >Maupin, he would have corrected the spelling or made some mention of it. > > > >Denise > > > > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the > author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html> > > ==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html> Phyllis--That is just what my husband said. He said that may also be the reason that we see both Quantrell and Quantrill. Love, Denise

One thing of interest that Bill mentioned at the reunion was that he has only found 2 Maupins--they live in NY--who are not related to Gabriel and Marie. He said all other Maupins in the country are related to us. Denise

Some immigrants could read or at least sign their names, but as they pushed westward and the schooling became less important (more important how to teach your son to shoot a squirrel and your daughter to preserve food for the coming winter) the second and third generations sometimes could not read or write. My Jesse Maupin, Jr. could at least sign his name, but his children could not. This is probably because they were growing up on the frontier, were orphans, and simply did not have the schooling. Phyllis *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/2/00 at 9:50 AM James Watson wrote: >Phyllis--I was just thinking of somethinig. As I said, my husband who is >an ameteur historian totally agrees with you that the colonists did not >have a standardized spelling system, and spelled it how it sounded. >However, my son Jamie is 1st year student at UVA and is taking a course >called "Reformation Europe". He just did a very long research paper on >John Calvin and Calvinism. Now, all of the Huguenots were Calvinists? >Well, one of the indicia of the Calvinist movement, according to the >books he had out, was that it created a strong and EDUCATED family unit. >They were all taught to read so that they could interpret Scripture for >themselves. (This is interesting in light of what's going on with the >Texas Baptist Convention right now--possible split from SBC). Then how >could the Huguenot Maupins have been so illiterate? Do you have any info >on that? > >Love, Denise > > >==== MAUPIN Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html>

My great grandfather Daniel was born 7/31/1846 and died 6/08/1940. He was the oldest of ten: Mary Rachel, Sally Ann, John T., Fannie C., George T., Lenard B., Ellis Alffred, Charles M. and Roscoe Lee. But no Emma. My line is the northeast Missouri line through John Dabney Maupin. John Maupin

Thought I would add mine to the growing list - but notice there is more than one Daniel Maupin & Margaret Via John Maupin & Frances Dabney Sarah Maupin & William Jarman James Dabney Jarman & Sarah T. Brown (she comes off the same Jarman line by Mary) Miletus Brown Jarman & Sarah Catherine Ballard John Powers Ballard Jarman & Annie Betty White George Ballard Jarman & Mattie Mae Massey (she has a brother who married Maupins) John Ballard Jarman & Cornelia Harper Linda Sue Jarman & Grady Lewis Valentine, Jr. (my husband and myself)(also had a daughter - Cynthia Lynn Valentine Grady Lewis Valentine, III & Teresa Lee Anderson Daniel Maupin & Margaret Via Jean Maupin & Samuel Rea Thomas Rea & Ann (Annis) Ballard Daniel Rea & Sarah Thomas Zephaniah R. Rea & Mary A. Jackson Nancy Elizabeth Rea & Robert Westley Layne Cornelia Harper & John Ballard Jarman see above Daniel Maupin & Margaret Via Jean Maupin & Samuel Rea Thomas Rea & Ann (Annis) Ballard Margaret Rea & George W. Wolfe Thomas Ballard Wolfe & Eliza Ann Thurston John William Wolfe & Cornelia Ann Layne Margaret Jospehine Wolfe & Ward Elton Harper Cornelia Harper & John Ballard Jarman see above There are a great many connections through the siblings on these lines also and I may have missed a few on my lines Thanks Linda Valentine lerj@mindspring.com