I gave up on the Unknown Monarch idea also and agree with Judith that, while there is no proof at present, having William C. as a son of Leonard seems like a very real possibility. I'm still carrying a separate file for William and just hoping something will crop up someday. The message below (7-12-2001) was one of mine when I was responding to someone; can't recall just who. ************ >I gave in and deleted that reference to an Unknown Monarch based upon the >insistence of Judith Burger and a note from Judith that the Monarch reference >Ruth Mattingly found might be a bit shaky. I think William R went along with >this thinking too, maybe he can chime in if that is in error. Judith wants >this guy for her William C Mattingly and frankly I think it has some merit >until we find something with more merit. See the notes below. (honestly >though, Judith raised some good points about William C Mattingly and she >might recall more herself.) > >All of this exchange is in the archives somewhere. > >Bob Alvey > >Ruth Mattingly found the origin of the Monarch allegation in the in The >Mattingly file in the Filson Club in Louisville. It had no source attached >to it as I recall and was not written with any precieved authority or >confidence in its importance. Little did the author know that I would base >years of research in trying to refute its implications. However, I have >decided that William C. Mattingly IS the son of Leonard Jr/Ann Cissell and >SOMEBODY is going to have to prove me wrong at this point. I'm still trying >to keep an open mind, but it is difficult. :) Judith Burger >---- >I'm claiming William Mattingly (son of Leonard Jr. b abt 1807) as William C. >Mattingly and my grandpa. You can't have him for Ann Bullock. He married >Trecy Girten in Gallatin Co. Il in 1827. He's MINE!!!! Judith Burger >----------------------- > William Mattingly Date: July 12, 2001 >So far none of the folks looking at William C. has been able to connect him >with a family line and there are a good many who have searched. The most >plausable theory presented, at this time that I know of, is that he was a son >of Leonard Mattingly, Jr. and Nancy A. Cissell and grandson of Leonard and >Mary Hayden. Obviously, we have found no proof but we do know that Leonard >and Nancy had a son by this name and that this son doesn't appear anywhere >else in the world (at least not so as we can find him). Naturally this is >mere speculation at this point but the best I've seen proposed thus far. >Naturally, we come to the question of "Why did he leave the area his parents >were in?" I think the answer is actually rather simple: All of our families >were moving around a lot and leaving home was commonplace and the 2nd answer >is land. William must have come into a sizable piece of property from his >wifes side as his land was referred to as Girten's land or place, I believe. >Someone correct me if I have the name wrong but I recall it was referred to >as Girten's something. Not sure if this is Judith or William R that wrote >this or maybe neither!!!! Bob Alvey >----------------------- > > > > > >> Bob--- >> I have a William Mattingly, b. ca.1800, son of Leonard Mattingly Jr. >> and >> Ann Nancy Cissell; m. to an Unknow Monarch. But, this is all I have about >> this person; any possible connections to the William at hand? >> Ralph Banks, Austin, TX >> > > > > >==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== ><Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> >We also have the [email protected] >Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney >Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ >To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > >