I ran across some older messages concerning John Coleman Mattingly, son of Martin, grandson of Leonard. Karen was kind enough to post the obituary for his wife (back on 8-19-2003) who was identified as Elizabeth McAtee Mattingly but who turns out to be another Mattingly. I think I must have gone brain dead or something because I don't remember the final conclusion on her. Karen could you douse me with a bucket of intellegence water on what was what here?