Anna's name shows up differently in a couple of places. I've seen her reported as Anna Cam, as Anita Carr and as Anna Carr. The marriage took place in Breckinridge County, Kentucky on 2-3-1817, as far as I have been able to tell. I also carry Thomas as a son of Richard Mattingly and Eleanor Hinton but Richard's will only mentions Thomas, not his wife so I guess the facts are still waiting to be proved. While I have found no proof of who the actual father of the Thomas that married Anna, I have observed that Clement was not in Breckinridge and I presume his son was not as well. Like Charley said though, Perry County is just across the Ohio River from Breckinridge County and perhaps they were from there and simply married in Breckinridge. I don't think I've seen a will for Clement. Does anyone have a copy so that we might verify he even had a son named Thomas? One final note, I tend to think Clement Mattingly was counted on the 1783 tax records of Washington County, Maryland. Other Mattingly's in the same area that year were Richard Sr. and Jr., Joseph, and Barnet as well as the family of Vachel Hinton. I don't have a clue as to Clement's ancestry but believe him to have been from the line of Cezar because of his position in Washington Co., Md. Again though, that's supposition. Not sure when Clement was born but he didn't appear on the rolls of the Pledge of Allegiance in Washington County, Md. in 1778 with Richard, Joseph, Barnet, and Henry. There was a Clement Mattingly who took the pledge in St. Mary's though. If Clement was in Washington County in 1778 then perhaps he was either too young or simply didn't take it, or his record hasn't appeared. If he was from St. Mary's then a whole new ball of wax opens up.

Laurie, William et al, Here's what I have for the Clement Mattingly who married Sarah Brewer Allen. Source: Julia Bixler, except for the marriage records for Nelson and Washington County.. Descendants of Sarah Brewer 1 [2] Sarah Brewer d: December 10, 1834 in Brown County, Indiana, tombstone Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brown County, Indiana . +David Allen, Sr. m: 1785 d: Bef. 1790 ... 2 [1] David Allen, Jr. ....... +Mary Cambron m: November 04, 1793 in Washington County, Kentucky, Bk 1-3 d: Bef. 1799 Father: Thomas Cambron Mother: Betha Unknown ... *2nd Wife of [1] David Allen, Jr.: ....... +Rebecca Cambron m: November 25, 1799 in Washington County, Kentucky, Bk 1-30, Bk 1-46 Father: Thomas Cambron Mother: Betha Unknown *2nd Husband of [2] Sarah Brewer: . +Clement Mattingly, KY>ID b: Abt. 1769 in Calculation from marriage date only JB m: April 22, 1790 in Nelson County, Kentucky d: January 23, 1838 in Brown County, Indiana, tombstone Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brown County, Indiana ============ Clement Mattingly son of Thomas III had a son named Thomas b 1738 and he, Clement made a will probated in 1780 in St. Mary's County, MD. There was a Clement already in Washington County, KY though in 1791. See below. I don't know who he is for sure or anything more about him. He's not very well researched by me and the below may be the records of several Clements. Judith Individual: Mattingley, Clement County/State: St. Mary's Co., MD Page #: 149 Year: 1760 Census type code: Residence List ----------------------------------------------------- Oath of Fidelity, Prince George's County Maryland, Fielder Bowie's Return, March 23, 1779 Clement Mattingley From: MARYLAND RECORDS VOL II, Brumbaugh, 1928,1993, Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore,p. 304 --------------------------------------- PIONEER HISTORY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY, Edited and Indexed by Michael L. Cook & Bettie Anne Cook, 1980. cook & McDowell Pub., Utica, KY, p. 249, RECORD OF THE COUNTY MILITIA (Washington County, Kentucky= transcribers note) ".....October ye 15th. 1791 The Court Assambled agreeable to Adjournment and proceeded as follows:......Clement Mattingly a Delinqt. of Capt. Ballard's Co. being present & complains of Inability & being sworn says he was born on the 14th of Feby. 1740 the Court in Consequence thereof clear him of Duty." -------------------------------------------- 1790 US Census No Clement Mattingly/Mattingley in Maryland. -------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R Mattingly" <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly > Anna's name shows up differently in a couple of places. I've seen her > reported as Anna Cam, as Anita Carr and as Anna Carr. The marriage took > place in Breckinridge County, Kentucky on 2-3-1817, as far as I have been > able to tell. I also carry Thomas as a son of Richard Mattingly and Eleanor > Hinton but Richard's will only mentions Thomas, not his wife so I guess the > facts are still waiting to be proved. While I have found no proof of who > the actual father of the Thomas that married Anna, I have observed that > Clement was not in Breckinridge and I presume his son was not as well. Like > Charley said though, Perry County is just across the Ohio River from > Breckinridge County and perhaps they were from there and simply married in > Breckinridge. > > I don't think I've seen a will for Clement. Does anyone have a copy so that > we might verify he even had a son named Thomas? > > One final note, I tend to think Clement Mattingly was counted on the 1783 > tax records of Washington County, Maryland. Other Mattingly's in the same > area that year were Richard Sr. and Jr., Joseph, and Barnet as well as the > family of Vachel Hinton. I don't have a clue as to Clement's ancestry but > believe him to have been from the line of Cezar because of his position in > Washington Co., Md. Again though, that's supposition. > > Not sure when Clement was born but he didn't appear on the rolls of the > Pledge of Allegiance in Washington County, Md. in 1778 with Richard, Joseph, > Barnet, and Henry. There was a Clement Mattingly who took the pledge in St. > Mary's though. If Clement was in Washington County in 1778 then perhaps he > was either too young or simply didn't take it, or his record hasn't > appeared. If he was from St. Mary's then a whole new ball of wax opens up. > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Judith, Charley, Laurie, Shirley, William, et alii, _____________________________________________________________ At this point, the following is perfectly clear to me: A man named LUKE MATTINGLY [origin still not really certain] was [presumably] married to NELLY [presumably =Eleanor] CAMBRON (probably in early 1776 or earlier). They were the parents of BARTON MATTINGLY, born in about 1776. _____________________________________________________________ This Barton Mattingly married-(1) MARY CAMBRON (presumably in 1805 or earlier) and by her had three daughters: Ann (b. 1805), Agnes (1807-46) and Mary (b 1816). Mary, the mother, died sometime after her daughter Mary's birth in 1816. Judith spoke of not seeing the forest for the trees, and indeed it was true. We knew of Barton's first wife Mary from the Maria of the Latin baptismal record at Barrens. In English her given name was Mary, but a very common nickname for Mary in those days was "Polly." Mary's first daughter was born in 1805, and a "POLLY" CAMBRON was married to a Barton Mattingly in Washington Co., KY, in the presence of Fr. Stephen Theodore Badin, on 8 Aug. 1804. /// I was struck by the concidence that they were married just two days after another Barton (Leonard Barton according to Charlie) married Anna Smith. in the presence of Fr. Charles Nerinckx, somewhere in the same county. I presume you all know that both of the priests mentioned were very important characters in American Catholic church history. There is a serious problem with this date, however, [which date I'm taking from Charley's note earlier this evening]. And that is, according to both the old and new Catholic Encylopedias, that Fr. Nerinckx did not arrive in Kentucky until July of 1805. /// _____________________________________________________________ Barton married-(2) Elizabeth Cambron (b. ca. 1794 of parentage still not clear) in Perry County IN on 1 Jan. 1817 in a civil ceremony <Indiana Marriages through 1850> -- probably because there was no priest available. By Elizabeth, Barton had four sons and two daughters: Benedict Joseph (1821-63), John (1824-35), James Austin (1826-1909), James Matthew (1828-81), Elizabeth Joanna (b. 1830), Barbara Ann (b. 1832). Barton and Elizbeth were at the Barrens in Missouri by 1822. Benedict Joseph was baptized at the Barrens on 9 July 1822. His father was listed as Bernard, and the godmother is Sarah Mattingly. Benedict's half sister, Ann -- by then 17 -- was baptized on 23 Sept of the same year, and Barton is again referred to as Bernard and the godmother is E<...> Cambron. The same year that Barton and Elizabeth's son John was born -- i.e. 1824 (month and day unknown) -- Barton and Elizabeth had their marriage "validated" in the eyes of the church and their children declared legitimate. This was at the parish of the Assumption of Mary at the Barrens (later known as Perryville, Perry Co., MO). The official witnesses were Fr. John Mary Odin, C.M., and Thomas Layton & Benedict Cambron. Barton died 30 July 1833 at the age of 57. His widow married-(2) Louis Schmaltz on 10 Feb. 1835 and died 22 Feb. 1864 at the age of 70. _____________________________________________________________ Now we move into speculation: A man named Luke Mattingly married ELEANOR THOMPSON in St. Mary's County, MD,in the presence of Fr. James Walton, S.J., on 11 Feb. 1772 -- just four years before Missouri Barton's birth. It is very conceivable -- but still pure speculation -- that perhaps Eleanor Thompson's full name was Eleanor Cambron Thompson. If so, this Luke was the Luke mentioned above. ///Occam's razor would seem to have some application here: entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily, which requires that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex./// _____________________________________________________________ There is also some thought that the Jeremiah and Joseph Mattinglys found in the Barrens church records the same year as Barton and Elizabeth's convalidation are brothers to Barton. But this remains to be proven. _____________________________________________________________ The current general thought seems to be that the Luke who married Nelly Thompson was the Luke who was the grandson of Caesar Mattingly by way of the latter's son John. I'm not sure yet what this is based on. If so, however, he was my sextuply great uncle. _____________________________________________________________ Fr. Blaine Burkey, O.F.M.Cap.