Hi Charley ! I also have a William C. Mattingly of McLean County, KY but I have him as the son of Lewis H. Mattingly and his first wife, Margaret Watkins m. Jan 11 1819, Washington Co., KY. This William C. Mattingly is found in the 1860 census married to Elizabeth: 1860 US Census, McLean County, Kentucky, June 13, 1860, Rumsey, Kentucky, Ancestry.com Image #13 79 76 William C. Mattingly, 35 M W Merchant $1500 $1000 Born in Kentucky Elizabeth 25 F W Kentucky William Lewis 6 M W Kentucky Lillian Mary 4 F W Kentucky James Herbert 5/12 M W Kentucky William Lucas 42 M W Tailor $100 Kentucky Thomas Jones 22 M W Laborer Kentucky Louisa Bailey 50 F W $100 Kentucky Rhoda Jones 19 F W Kentucky Daniel Mattingly 20 M W Merchants Clerk Kentucky Martha Bailey 6 F W Kentucky **************************************************************************** ********************* I think I might know where the daughter of Joe Monarch note came from, The Mattingly Manuscript in the Filson Club in Louisville. Since the William C. Mattingly that married Trecy Gertin was only 20 years old and she was 17 at the time of their marriage in 1827, I have assumed that it was a first marriage for them both. There is always the possibility that William C. married a Monarch girl and she died very soon there after, though. However, I have not, to date, been able to find a record of a William Mattingly/Monarch marriage, and heavens knows, I've looked. I totally agree with you that Libers and folios are in order to straighten out this William C. Mattingly mystery and if I had any left unpromised, I'd give my eye teeth to find them. For now though, and until somebody proves to me that he is not, I have that William C. Mattingly who married Trecy Gertin, is the son of Leonard Mattingly, Jr. and Ann Cissell. Tell Cousin Kitty I said Hi ! Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Food for Mattingly > Judith: > > Thanks Judith. As I have indicated on a couple of recent occasions, I have, > up to now, had no idea of who the parents were of William C. Mattingly who > married Teresa Gertin. But my next point would be that William C. son of Leonard > Jr. does not appear to be the right candidate. > > I have a note, that I cannot document at this time, that William C. son of > Leonard Jr married a daughter of Joe Monarch. I also have that they had a son > James Allen Mattingly b 1858 born 1858 in McLean County, KY. This latter does > not make sense in that William C. was likely born circa 1805 [give or take 5 > years] and having a child in 1858 does not make sense. > > Can't we find another spot for William C. that married Teresa Gertin??? > > We hashed Martin Sr's family over on the forum a year or so ago, especially > relating to Martin Srs son John C. > > Can't we find another place for William and Teresa to fit into the Mattingly > picture. I have never had him there and find it hard to place him there. > However, Libers and folios can change my mind real quick like, > > Thanks for the additional info - and I didn't realize this was your family > line. Kitty is from John, brother of Leonard, Jr. > > Charley > > > > > ood Morning Charley! > > > > In my files I have that the Charles William Mattingly who was born Aug 18 > > 1847 in Union County,was the son of William C. Mattingly (b. abt 1807) and > > Trecy/Theresa Gertin those conniving ancestors of mine that have so > > successfully hidden their parentage from us all. They could have taught > > ENRON a thing or two about paper trails. > > > > > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >