It's entirely possible that Thomas was the son of Richard. Clement was on a tax list abt. 1801 Breckinridge Co, though, although I don't have a source for it. I think Breckinridge was formed from part of Hardin about 1800. Hardin formed from Nelson 1792 - so there could have been minor or no moves but changes in the taxing county. In addition to the information from Julia, I work with the following: 1. I have an Anna MATNA who married William Reynolds 1832 Bartholomew IN. Clement and Uriah MATNEY lived in Bartholomew at the time; it is assumed that Anna and children were the extra members in Clement's household 1830. She later appears as widow Reynolds, living in the household of son Daniel Matney. Another son Joshua lived in the approximate area in Bartholomew Co. 1840 as Clement and Uriah were when they died. I have been working on solid proof via land records, but have not yet made the definitive connection. Daniel moved to MO with Stephen and Uriah's family for several years after 1850, returning to neighbor Joshua and sister Alcy Nickerson 1870 Fulton Co., Illinois. Both Uriah and Stephen married as MATTINGLY in Hardin Co., KY. Clement's son Elias married as Mattingly in OH. Uriah died in IN, Stephen first moved to Arkansas, then into southern MO., with Uriah's family. Elias remained in IN. 2. Neither Clement nor Uriah made a land patent claim in Indiana; however, Hannah CARR and John CARR (no connection made) both had land patents in the county (Bartholomew IN) at the time. I'm not sure that Hannah was part of the Carr family from KY, though. 3. Richard's son Thomas, by tax notations, was somehow disabled as early as 1819. While he may have married Anna, and had children, I would think that Richard would have mentioned them in his will, seeing as Thomas was not able to provide for them. My Anna had at least three children. Of course it's also possible he didn't see a need to provide for them if she'd moved on and remarried. If this were the case, and my Anna was Richard's daughter in law, then Richard and Clement must have been close relatives. 4. No one has found Clement on the 1820 census. Stephen was in Hardin Co, KY, and there was a Sarah Mattingly nearby. The census is difficult to read, but it's possible that this was Clement's Sarah, with a young woman with a young child in her household. She lived next door to John Ford and Walter Headrick. Walter Headrick, I believe, was the step-father of William Rogers, father of my Susannah Rogers who married Joshua Matney. A Robert Ford signed the marriage bond of one of Clement's children. Uriah was in Jackson Co., IN. Elias, another son, was just north also in IN. To note, there was a Thomas Matney in Washington DC 1820, one younger man and one older. I have absolutely no proof of who this was, and would guess that if Clement were the older man, he'd be listed rather than Thomas, but it's interesting. 5. Thomas Mattingly and Anna Carr were married by Samuel Eslick in Breckinridge, KY. Samuel Eslick and his son Artis, were friends and later relatives of Clement, Uriah, and Stephen, moving with them from KY, to Indiana, to southern MO. Also to note, on the 1791 Tithables, Nelson Co. KY, there appeared a Barton and Clemon MATLEY. A Phillip MATLEY had appeared 1787. I think this was our Clement-his sons did use the MATLEY spelling in Indiana. I understand this is somewhat (!) convoluted and quite sketchy, but most definitely, somewhere in the shuffle is a Mattingly, relative of Clement and my ancestor. I'm certainly open to all suggestions and corrections - please do! Laurie Judith Burger <bburger1-2@comcast.net> wrote: Laurie, William et al, Here's what I have for the Clement Mattingly who married Sarah Brewer Allen. Source: Julia Bixler, except for the marriage records for Nelson and Washington County.. Descendants of Sarah Brewer 1 [2] Sarah Brewer d: December 10, 1834 in Brown County, Indiana, tombstone Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brown County, Indiana . +David Allen, Sr. m: 1785 d: Bef. 1790 ... 2 [1] David Allen, Jr. ....... +Mary Cambron m: November 04, 1793 in Washington County, Kentucky, Bk 1-3 d: Bef. 1799 Father: Thomas Cambron Mother: Betha Unknown ... *2nd Wife of [1] David Allen, Jr.: ....... +Rebecca Cambron m: November 25, 1799 in Washington County, Kentucky, Bk 1-30, Bk 1-46 Father: Thomas Cambron Mother: Betha Unknown *2nd Husband of [2] Sarah Brewer: . +Clement Mattingly, KY>ID b: Abt. 1769 in Calculation from marriage date only JB m: April 22, 1790 in Nelson County, Kentucky d: January 23, 1838 in Brown County, Indiana, tombstone Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brown County, Indiana ============ Clement Mattingly son of Thomas III had a son named Thomas b 1738 and he, Clement made a will probated in 1780 in St. Mary's County, MD. There was a Clement already in Washington County, KY though in 1791. See below. I don't know who he is for sure or anything more about him. He's not very well researched by me and the below may be the records of several Clements. Judith Individual: Mattingley, Clement County/State: St. Mary's Co., MD Page #: 149 Year: 1760 Census type code: Residence List ----------------------------------------------------- Oath of Fidelity, Prince George's County Maryland, Fielder Bowie's Return, March 23, 1779 Clement Mattingley From: MARYLAND RECORDS VOL II, Brumbaugh, 1928,1993, Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore,p. 304 --------------------------------------- PIONEER HISTORY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY, Edited and Indexed by Michael L. Cook & Bettie Anne Cook, 1980. cook & McDowell Pub., Utica, KY, p. 249, RECORD OF THE COUNTY MILITIA (Washington County, Kentucky= transcribers note) ".....October ye 15th. 1791 The Court Assambled agreeable to Adjournment and proceeded as follows:......Clement Mattingly a Delinqt. of Capt. Ballard's Co. being present & complains of Inability & being sworn says he was born on the 14th of Feby. 1740 the Court in Consequence thereof clear him of Duty." -------------------------------------------- 1790 US Census No Clement Mattingly/Mattingley in Maryland. -------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R Mattingly" To: Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly > Anna's name shows up differently in a couple of places. I've seen her > reported as Anna Cam, as Anita Carr and as Anna Carr. The marriage took > place in Breckinridge County, Kentucky on 2-3-1817, as far as I have been > able to tell. I also carry Thomas as a son of Richard Mattingly and Eleanor > Hinton but Richard's will only mentions Thomas, not his wife so I guess the > facts are still waiting to be proved. While I have found no proof of who > the actual father of the Thomas that married Anna, I have observed that > Clement was not in Breckinridge and I presume his son was not as well. Like > Charley said though, Perry County is just across the Ohio River from > Breckinridge County and perhaps they were from there and simply married in > Breckinridge. > > I don't think I've seen a will for Clement. Does anyone have a copy so that > we might verify he even had a son named Thomas? > > One final note, I tend to think Clement Mattingly was counted on the 1783 > tax records of Washington County, Maryland. Other Mattingly's in the same > area that year were Richard Sr. and Jr., Joseph, and Barnet as well as the > family of Vachel Hinton. I don't have a clue as to Clement's ancestry but > believe him to have been from the line of Cezar because of his position in > Washington Co., Md. Again though, that's supposition. > > Not sure when Clement was born but he didn't appear on the rolls of the > Pledge of Allegiance in Washington County, Md. in 1778 with Richard, Joseph, > Barnet, and Henry. There was a Clement Mattingly who took the pledge in St. > Mary's though. If Clement was in Washington County in 1778 then perhaps he > was either too young or simply didn't take it, or his record hasn't > appeared. 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