Judith, etal We ran into that same problem in the fall of 1996, when we found that record in St Marys County. What did we do. We took a look at the family of Leonard and found that Jane was always listed as the oldest, followed by John. We than noted that Jane married in 1788 Nov 19, and brother John did not have his first son until 24 Dec 1791. This gave us considerable room to work out the birthdate for Jane and John. It would be real easy to place John's birthdate up to 1765 and Jane to 1763. This would make Polly, born 1749, 14 years of age when Jane was born. I guess we could move John up to 1766 or 67 with Jane at 65 and Polly is now 16. I know it is not nice to play with dates; however, I do not have any set in concrete dates for Polly and John's marriage, or for Jane's birth. Is there something to define not later than, or not before. My Great Grandmother Sarah [Hayes] born 1798 married Thomas McColgin in 1812 and had 5 children by 1823 when Thomas died and she married William Vaughn in 1823, possibly within a few days or weeks of Thomas death as she her 5 th child was not born until two weeks later. After 4 Vaughn children, William died in 1835; and she then married my Great Grandfather, Jesse Allen Moore, in 1836 and had 4 more children. She was a Grandmother by 31 or 32. And, Jesse and Sarah celebrated their Golden Anniversary in '86 before she died in 1987. I know that John presumably financed the trip to KY, and was never repaid by Leonard, but it may be that Dad had some money; and Mary Polly may have came with a dower. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Hello List! > I'm still picking at 'ole Luke Mattingly, father of Barton of Perry County, > Missouri fame, and in the process of inquiry was gifted with this abstract of > the distribution account of George Hayden the father of Mary Hayden who m. > Leonard Mattingly, Sr. As you see the ages of his children are listed and > Mary is 6 years old in 1755, and that makes her birth date 1749. Therefore she > would have been too young at age 11 in 1760 to be married and bear the first > 2 children we have listed for Leonard Mattingly Sr. SO, did Leonard Sr. have > a previous wife before Mary Hayden, or are the first two children we have > listed for him, not his??? I have Jane b. c 1760 and John c 1762. She, Mary > Hayden, would have been 17 years old in 1766 for Leonard Mattingly Jr.. > That's possible. Just a little food for thought. Judith