I see a Charles Mattingly age 39 with Catherine 28 and children Nancy 2 and Mary 8/12 in the household of Basil Mattingly in Marion Co. KY in the 1860 census. This would seem to be the Charles who married Catherine Madden. I don't think this is the Charles and Catherine listed in the 1850 census with children George and Francis.

Pat, here is a discussion from several years ago about these couples. Judith ============================================================= Marion Co. KY Deed Book 1, Page 94. This indenture made and entered into this 5th day of February 1861 by and between Basil Mattingly and his children; Ignatius Mattingly and Emily his wife, James W. Mattingly and Rebecca his wife and Charles Mattingly and Catherine his wife and John Lancaster as trustee all of Marion County, Kentucky of the first part and William P. Beauchamp of the same state and county of the second part. Whereas, Ignatius Mattingly by his last will and testament among other things devised the west side of his farm and plantation upon which he then lived, towit 29th day of June 1849, the use of his son, Basil Mattingly and his wife during their lives and appointed the said John Lancaster as Trustee with directions at the death of said Basil Mattingly and his wife to sell said land and pay the proceeds over to said Basil's three children who are the said Ignatius, James W. and Charles Mattingly, and whereas the said Basil Mattingly's wife died sometime since and he has become old and feeble! and is not able to cultivate said farm and in consideration that he gives his consent to this conveyance and joins therein his sons have given him a covenant binding themselves to support and maintain him during his life and because all parties now deem it a matter of interest and benefit that a sale of said land should be made now and for the consideration of three thousand dollars by the said Beauchamp to the said Ignatius Mattingly, James W. Mattingly, Charles Mattingly in hand paid the receipt where of is hereby acknowledge the said parties of the first part have and do by these presents grant bargain and sell, convey and confirm unto him the said William P. Beauchamp all their rights, titles and interest in possession remainder or revision? or to the proceeds should it be sold in and to the said Western part of the said tract of land owned by said Ignatius Mattingly in his lifetime and by his last will and testament devised to the use and benefit of said Basil Mattingl! y and wife for life and at their decease to be sold and the proceeds paid to the grantors, Ignatius, James W. and Charles Mattingly who are and were the three children of said Basil referred to in the will of said Ignatius, deceased. It is understood that said testators devised the east part of the farm on which he lived to his wife for life and set onto in his will the boundaries there of, and then devised the western part of his farm which was the residue in trust for said Basil and wife and stated above and it is this residue or Western part of said farm that is hereby conveyed to said Beauchamp. .... Signed Basil Mattingly, X his mark Ignatius Mattingly, X his mark Emily Mattingly, X her mark Charles Mattingly, X his mark Catherine Mattingly, X her mark James W. Mattingly, X his mark Rebecca Mattingly, X her mark Jno Lancaster, Trustee Attest: George W. Lancaster, Ben R. Smith, B. J. Spalding, A. A. Ruley Re-recorded on October 29, 1863 after the original was destroyed. Marion County, KY Deed Book 1, page 373 This Indenture made and entered into this 15th day of February 1864 between Charles Mattingly and Catherine Mattingly his wife, James W. Mattingly and Rebecca Mattingly, his wife and Ignatius Mattingly and Emily Mattingly is wife of the county of Marion and state of Kentucky of the first part and W. P. Beauchamp, the county and state of aforesaid of the second part. That the party of the first part for and in consideration of the sum of three hundred dollars to them in hand paid by the party of the second part the receipt where of is here by acknowledged have this day bargained and sold and do by these presents give, grant, bargain and sell unto the party of the second part, all their right, title, interest and claim that they have either in law or equity in and to all that tract of land lying and being situated in the county and State aforesaid and upon the waters of Hardin's Creek, being the same land upon which Catherine Mattingly now lives, and was willed to her during ! her natural life by her late husband Ignatius Mattingly, deceased containing ninety nine acres and one half be the same more or less, also all their rights title and Interests in and two Slaves Peter and William willed to the said Catherine during her natural life by the said Ignatius Mattingly, aforesaid. The will of the said Ignatius Mattingly now of record in the Marion County Court is here referred to for the identity of the Slaves and tho the boundary and description of the Land. To have and to hold the aforesaid described land and Slaves and the proceeds of the Sale of said Land and Slaves should the same be sold and the money divided by a provision of the will of the said Mattingly to him the said W. P. Beauchamp his heirs and assigns forever and the party of the first part do agree to and with the party of the second part that they will warrant and defend the title to the above described land and slaves or the proceeds thereof to the extent of the one Sixth part th! ereof from the claim of themselves and all other claims whatever. In witness whereof they have here to set hands and seal this day and year aforesaid. Catherine Mattingly James Mattingly, X his mark Rebecca Mattingly, X her mark Ignatius Mattingly, X his mark Emily Mattingly, X her mark Karen Fowler Caldwell <caldwel@kyol.net> 2/18/2001 -------------------------------------------------------- I have an Ignatius Mattingly who married an Emily Knott. I am not aware of either of their parents but am thinking now that this Ignatius might be one of the sons Karen mentions. I show he was b. abt 1826 in KY d. 8/4/1894 in Marion Co, KY and is buried in St Francis Xavier Catholic Cemetery in Marion Co, KY. I know little of Emily Knott other than she and Ignatius were the parents of at least 6 children of which James William "Will" Mattingly their oldest son married Elizabeth Jane Alvey on Oct 13, 1874 in Marion Co, KY. She was the dau of Carey Francis Alvey and Susan Ann Howard. That is if I have all my facts correct!! If this is one son then we have two to go. I do not have a Charles and Catherine or a James W and Rebecca that are a close match. Bob BobcatBob@aol.com <BobcatBob@aol.com> 2/18/2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------ This is pretty exciting for me. Don't know about the rest of you. Have to get my sons in bed so they can go to school tomorrow but let me post this. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this as I just made a very quick look. 1880 Census Marion County: Ignatius Mattingly age 55 born about 1825 (don't find him yet in 1850) Emily 50 Richard 20 John 18 Frank 15 Simion 8 1850 Census Marion County: James Mattingly age 35 born abt 1815 Rebecca 25 Margaret 8 months Charles Mattingly age 23 born abt 1826 Catherine 24 George 4 Frances 1 There was a 50 year old Elizabeth Mattingly residing with the family. William R Mattingly <wmatting@swva.net> 2/18/2001 -------------------------------------------- 1850 Marion Co. census has them all - Household #916 Ignatius Mattingly 79 MD Catherine 58(second wife) MD Nancy Mills 14 KY (granddaughter?) Household #917(next door, on the "east" property along Hardin Creek) Basil Mattingly 55 MD Nancy (Hardesty) 65 MD m 12-30-1816, Washington Co. Leila Cameron 47 KY(Nancy's dau from first? marriage?) Household #82 James 35(33?) KY Rebecca 25 KY(marriage prob cMarch, 1849, Marion Co.) Mary T. 8 mos.(Jan, 1850, census 8-26-1850) Household #435 Ignatius 29 KY(married c1842, Marion Co.) Eliza J. 28 KY (dies c1851, see below) C. W. 7 (Charles?) X. B. 6 (Xavier?) E. J. 5 (Eliza Jane?) M. A. 4 (Mary Ann?) William 2 John 1 Henrietta Roney 59 MD(mother-in-law!?) Household #75 Charles 23 KY Catherine 24 KY(marriage c1845, Marion Co., was she a Mattingly?) George 4 Francis 1 (F) Elizabeth Mattingly 50(mother-in-law?) The reason there are no marriage records for them is that Marion Co., although formed from Washington Co. in 1834, did not start keeping marriage records until 1852! So, Ignatius' first wife, Eliza Jane, having borne 6 children in eight years, likely dies bearing the 7th in 1851. Ignatius marries Emily shortly before Marion Co. starts keeping marriage records, and THEIR oldest son, James...see above. Dan Creel Dtcreel@aol.com <Dtcreel@aol.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "pvenable" <pvenable@netzero.net> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: [MATTINGLY] Mattingly, Charles and Catherine > I see a Charles Mattingly age 39 with Catherine 28 and children Nancy 2 and Mary 8/12 in the household of Basil Mattingly in Marion Co. KY in the 1860 census. This would seem to be the Charles who married Catherine Madden. I don't think this is the Charles and Catherine listed in the 1850 census with children George and Francis.