William, I agree it is very unlikely that Charles Mattingly who married Catherine Herbert in 1848 was a brother to Benedict born 1811. I think the Charles Mattingly listed in the 1850 census of Marion Co. KY age 23 with wife Catharine 33, George 4, Francis1 and Elizabeth age 50 is the same Charles. I would suspect this would be closer to his true age and that the age 39 in the 1860 census was quite a bit off. I don't have an explanation for George age 4 - perhaps Charles had been married before. I suspect the Elizabeth was mother of Charles. This Elizabeth would not have been Elizabeth (McPherson) Mattingly as she was listed in Washington Co. KY with Benedict in 1850. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R. Mattingly" <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] John Baptist Mattingly off-spring > I've been following these reports on Charles with interest. I'm about at > the conclusion that Charles was not a son of Benedict Mattingly and > Elizabeth McPherson. Based on the 1840 census Benedict and Elizabeth had > two sons prior to 1840; one was Alexander Sylvester and the other was Pius > Dominick. > > I think Charles was a son of Benedict Mattingly, born about 1799, who was in > turn a son of Joseph Mattingly and grandson of John Baptist who died in 1817 > and a 1st cousin to the Benedict that married Elizabeth McPherson. That is > the relationship if that Benedict (1811) was actually a son of > Barnett/Bernard (brother to Joseph). These are my current opinions > of-course and subject to change if we can find some evidence of Charles > parentage or the parentage of Benedict 1811 that contradict this opinion. > > ********************************** > > > Charles Mattingly married Elizabeth C. Herbert 4-18-1848 bond by > Benedict > > > Mattingly. > > > > > > Charles Mattingly and Catherine Elizabeth (Herbert) Mattingly are shown > on > > > page 4 Washington Co. KY census of 1860. > > > > > > Charles Matley 39 all born KY > > > Catherine 33 > > > George 14 > > > Louisa 12 > > > Henrietta 10 > > > Thomas 8 > > > Florance 5 > > > Gensey 1 > > > > > > > > > Baptisms St. Rose Washington Co. KY shows > > > Mattingley-Herbert. p.3 Frances Louise Adaline; b. Dec. 31-1848 ; bap. > > Mar. > > > 24-1849 Parents: Charles Mattingly and Catherine Elizabeth Herbert. > > > same. p. 31. Henrietta; b. Jan. 16-1851; bap. June 15 -1851. > Parents: > > > as above > > > same. p.50. Thomas Lloyd; b.Sep. 17- 1852; bap. Mar. 14- 1853. > > Parents: > > > as above > > > same. p. 148 Gonzales Dominic; b. Sep. 15 - 1859; bap. Apr. 10 - 1860 > > > parents: as above > > > same p. 168. Mary Josephine; b. 1866; bap. June 15 - 1866. parents: > as > > > above. > > > > > > The will of John McPherson of Nelson Co. KY filed in Washington Co. KY > > Sept > > > 1845 lists his children as Catherine Cecil, William McPherson, Elizabeth > > > Mattingly, Mildred McPherson and Margaret McPherson. I suspect this is > > the > > > Elizabeth that married Charles Mattingly in 1810. This would make her > an > > > aunt of the Elizabeth McPherson who married Benedict Mattingly > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

The Charles you mention was reportedly a son of Basil Mattingly and Nancy Budges and while I am told that his wife was Catherine A. Madden, I'm not entirely sure that is correct. In fact, I'm not certain where I got that information any longer. Maybe someone can straighten this out for us because I've seen no marriage records for Catherine Madden but you have submitted evidence of the Herbert girl and I know that the LDS site lists Charles wife as Catherine Herbert. ************************************ > William, I agree it is very unlikely that Charles Mattingly who married > Catherine Herbert in 1848 was a brother to Benedict born 1811. I think the > Charles Mattingly listed in the 1850 census of Marion Co. KY age 23 with > wife Catharine 33, George 4, Francis1 and Elizabeth age 50 is the same > Charles. I would suspect this would be closer to his true age and that the > age 39 in the 1860 census was quite a bit off. I don't have an explanation > for George age 4 - perhaps Charles had been married before. I suspect the > Elizabeth was mother of Charles. This Elizabeth would not have been > Elizabeth (McPherson) Mattingly as she was listed in Washington Co. KY with > Benedict in 1850.

William there is a record in MARION COUNTY, KENTUCKY VITAL STATISTICS 1852-1862 1874-1876, by Margaret Clark Kington, p. 55 wherein it states that Nancy born June 6 1858, F W (father) Charles Mattingly, (mother) Catherine A. Madden, born n. St. Marys College. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R. Mattingly" <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] John Baptist Mattingly off-spring > The Charles you mention was reportedly a son of Basil Mattingly and Nancy > Budges and while I am told that his wife was Catherine A. Madden, I'm not > entirely sure that is correct. In fact, I'm not certain where I got that > information any longer. Maybe someone can straighten this out for us > because I've seen no marriage records for Catherine Madden but you have > submitted evidence of the Herbert girl and I know that the LDS site lists > Charles wife as Catherine Herbert. > > > > ************************************ > > > William, I agree it is very unlikely that Charles Mattingly who married > > Catherine Herbert in 1848 was a brother to Benedict born 1811. I think > the > > Charles Mattingly listed in the 1850 census of Marion Co. KY age 23 with > > wife Catharine 33, George 4, Francis1 and Elizabeth age 50 is the same > > Charles. I would suspect this would be closer to his true age and that > the > > age 39 in the 1860 census was quite a bit off. I don't have an > explanation > > for George age 4 - perhaps Charles had been married before. I suspect the > > Elizabeth was mother of Charles. This Elizabeth would not have been > > Elizabeth (McPherson) Mattingly as she was listed in Washington Co. KY > with > > Benedict in 1850. > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >