Oh i can understand that and dont think about it Working on James today send me what ya have if its easy Remembered that I have a copy of an unplubished volume "The Mattingly Family in Early America" Herman E. Mattingly 1975 Hve you every heard of it? got it from a man in Perry County and I was refered to him by P.C. Historical Society Had a few facts i did not know he seems to have plenty of resorces too. Thre young man copyed the whole264 pages for me(nice Man). Any way just wondered if you have heard of it! Ill hold off on James for the time being till I hear from you ok Brenda