See the email below from Norma telling where this data came from & that it was in error. It did get us looking at this William's data though. I am interested in the comment that some of the data attributed to Thomas II's descendants may be that of Cezar's descendants. One of these days I'll do some checking into that one. It might be why we can't find some of those connections we're looking for. Carol in WA In a message dated 6/12/01 8:30:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Re: [MATTINGLY] Re: Wm Mattingly d 1759 ? Date: 6/12/01 8:30:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Norma Lewis) To: [email protected] I think we did find a source for this John being married to an Elizabeth Brewer. We were going back and forth trying to keep them straight. That note on William was from LDS ~ sorry if it confused everyone, BUT we need to post this stuff to get it corrected. It is listed in LDS as a death, not as a birth. That contributor made a mistake, but we need to note that in our research. I found this when I did a search for all William Mattinglys on LDS. Even with errors we find something important. Somebody found a record with these dates, they recorded it incorrectly. Norma >>