In a message dated 08/11/2001 7:45:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Putting all this together, do you think that William Mattingly who died in 1817, married for the third time to Nancy Murry in Green County had two children he wasn't especially proud of, because they had mixed ancestry of Indian blood, one of which was William Mattingly who married Bridget Anna Vessels in 1837. The family tradition is that the mother of William Mattingly b. abt 1813-1814 was full blooded Indian. Could the spelling of the name Murry indicate Indian ancestry? Tell me what you think. Judith Burger >> Judith, I for one believe you may have found the key to unlocking the William Mattingly mystery! Pursuing your thoughts, we find two Murrys in Green Co. in 1850, Alexander and Felix, who were very likely relatives of Nancy. Neither name is very "Catholic". Making a further assumption that the second child was female(since no male Mattinglys show an affiliation with William throughout his life), born c1815-16, there was a marriage of a Lucinda Mattingly to John Woodring, 11-12-1832 in Washington County. In 1850, she and John are in household #611, Hardin Co., near household #554, our William Mattingly(Mattinghy on census index). She's the closest Mattingly neighbor of William, shown as 35, 2 years younger than William's 37, and she has named her children - Susan M., Martina(William named a daughter Malvina about 2 years later), FELIX, Francis, Augusta A., and Cyrus. Here again, these names are not the "normal Catholic" names. The "coincidences" are quite strong - Felix(after uncle?), Martina-Malvina, move from Washington Co. to Hardin Co. close to William, not-so-Catholic names, Cyrus-Alexander(historical connection), age right, birthplace right(KY), closest Mattingly... As to two Williams from same father, have seen this time and time again in many families, especially if there was a second family from a different wife, because in most cases the first family was raised elsewhere by relatives. Another cause was first and second given names, where the child's preference was the name of his father - e.g., brothers Thomas William and William James might prefer to go by William in their adult lives. One might live as William Jr., meaning only he was younger than the other nearby William, not that he had the identical name of his father. Thank you for the insights, at the very least it's a path for investigation, just as promising as, if not more than, the 1826 will of Luke Mattingly. Dan Creel