Charley, thanks for all the additional data and the coordination of same. I'm still over my head and struggling with these records. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > Judith, etal > > This might be a good time to run down the appearance of Mattinglys in > Kentucky. > > Nelson County > > In 1787 we find in Nelson Co, KY: Leonard; Ignatius; John; and Leonard > [probably Old Leonard and three sons.] > > In 1788 we find: John; Leonard; Leonard, Jr. [Prob Old Leonard & 2 sons] > > in 1789 we find: Robert; Lenard, Jr.; William; Luke. {Prob Lenard and 2 > bros, Wm and Luke; and James on, Robert. > > In 1790 we find: Robert; Leonard; Luke; William; Ignatius; John; Lenard; > Basil; Philip; John. [prob same as in 1789 plus three of Leonards sons; and > Philip & John.] > > IN 1791 we find: John; Joseph; John Baptist; Philip. [Prob 2 sons of Old > Leonard; John Baptist who died in 1817 Will; and Philip still looking for > connection. > > In 1792 we find: Phillip; Clement; Robert; William; Ignatius; Leonard; Luke; > John; Leonard; John. {Probably Phillip above; Clement???; Robert above; > Ignatius son of Leonard; bros Wm; Leonard; Luke; John & Leonard son of Leonard; > John ???.] > > 1795 we find; Phillip and 1800. Phillip. > > Mattinglys are now in Washington County. > > In 1810 Census we find: John & his wife, 26-45, 4 sons under 10; 1 dau > 10-16. ?????. Certainly not John, son of old Leonard; Leonard 26-45 & wife over 45 > with son and dau under 10; son and dau 10-16; son 16-25 - prob Leonard, Jr.; > Clement & wife over 45 with 5 children 10-25; Joseph and wife 26-45 with 3 > sons -10 & one -16 ????; William 26-45 with 4 daus7 1 son -10; 1son and 2 daus > 16-25; and, the one you have been waiting for: Barton & wife under 25 with 3 > sons under 10 [guess Dad Luke was still in MO. > > Charley > > > > > > bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > > > Picking up on your Luke SENIOR Mattingly, > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Shelby County Indiana Deed Books and original land owners MATINLEY, BARTON, 9/30/1835, 40, SWNE, 33, 12N, 7E, SHELBY, IN,, >

Fr. Blaine, that's interesting stuff. Thought provoking. Following up on the mention of the Mattingly family in Hagerstown, MD, I understand that the Hagerstown people went over the state line to Conewago Chapel in York (later Adams County) County, PA for Catholic religious services in the early years when the border was being disputed between Maryland and Pennsylvania. There is only one mention of a Mattingly in the records I have for Conawago Chapel, but there IS one. THE BASILICA OF THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS "CONEWAGO CHAPEL" EDGE GROVE, ADAMS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, MARRIAGE RECORDS 1796-1883, Translated by Msgr. Thomas J. McGough, Edited by Albert C. Dudrear, Jr., P.E., Arthur S. Cunningham, Col., USAF, Ret., Francis W. Miller, 1980, John Timon Reily Historical Society, McSherrystown, PA., p. M-42 MATTINGLY, Samuel - -DURBIN, Elinora 3-7-1802, Witnesses: Parents and Sisters. No Priest listed. This Samuel Mattingly was the son of Henry Mattingly 1751-1823 and Honor Durbin c 1751-1821 and William R. Mattingly has this family beautifully researched on his web site. They are of the Caesar/Cezar Line. It looks like they took part in the Pennsylvania migration from Pittsburgh down the Ohio River to Zanesville, Ohio where one of the first Catholic settlements were. ----------------------------------------------- You mentioned the sons of Luke Mattingly who lived near Hagerstown Maryland taking the Oath of Allegiance in 1778 in Washington County, Maryland, and I found another reference for those oaths, but to date have not found them on any 1776 census of Maryland: Washington and Montgomery Counties, were formed from parts of Frederick Sept. 6 1776 so they should be on Frederick, Montgomery,or Washington County, but I haven't found them. They are probably there though, cause Henry died in 1823 in Allegany County which was formed from part of Washington in 1789.. "Revolutionary Records of Maryland", Gaius Marcus Brumbaugh & Margaret Robert Hodges, 1978 Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, Maryland, p15 "The Worsipfull Andw. Bruce's Returns, (1 through 81) 9. Mattingly, Richard 11. Mattingly, Joseph 24. Mattingly, Barnet 66, Mattingly, Henry Washington County, 2nd Mch., 1778. I Certify to the Honorable the Governor and Council <snip> subscribed the Oath of Fidelity to the State of Maryland <snip>. ANDW. BRUCE." (There are no other Mattinglys listed in this book but Edward, William and Samuel Durbin are also on the Washington County, Maryland list above, and William R, Mattingly lists Samuel Durbin as the father of Honor Durbin the wife of Henry Mattingly, . This Henry Mattingly, b. July 3, 1751, is listed as the son of John Mattingly and Elizabeth Brewer. JB) The Mattinglys who took the 1778 Oath of Allegiance in St. Mary's County listed by O'Rourke in his Catholic Families are on p. 78. Benet, Benjamin, Clement, Edward, Francis, James Barton, and Luke, Sr. So it looks like it may be two different Mattingly lines, Thomas II and Caesar/Cezar. Where is Luke Jr or the younger of the two? Is he the one that shows up in St. Mary's County in 1781 drafted and excused, son of Ignatius Sr.? Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Burkey" <blaineb@slu.edu> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > I'm tossing the following into the pot tonight, just for completeness's > sake. Fr. Julius Mattingly's work may not be available to any of you, > and what it says about Fr. Ambrose Mattingley's line is not to be found > in Fr. Herman's books. And it may yet prove helpful somehow. > _____________________________________________ > > LUKE MATTINGLY > =============== > > Fr. Julius Mattingly, Traditions and Genealogy of the Mattingly Family > (West Baden IN: privately published, 1918: > > "1. CHARLES MATTINGLY. All the different branches of the Kentucky > Mattinglys trace their origin back to this Charles, only three of whose > issue we have any record: > 3. William. > 4. Leonard. > 5. Luke." (p.1) > > "3. WILLIAM MATTINGLY. It is positively known that this Wm. Mattingly > with his brothers, Leonard and Luke, came to Hardin Creek settlement, > Kentucky, in the year 1786, and that they came from St. Mary's County, > Maryland." (p.2) > > "5. LUKE MATTINGLY. The last of the trio of brothers who settled in > Hardin Creek in 1786, of whom nothing can be recorded, save that a few > years ago, one of his descendants, John G. Mattingly, was living in > Manton, Washington County, Ky., a respectable members [sic] of Holy > Rosary church." (p. 2) > > REV. AMBROSE WILLIAM WALLACE MATTINGLEY, O.S.B., born 8 Sept. 1865, near > Eurica, Ind., was the son of Wiilliam Mattingly and Elizabeth Hall. > Ambrose quotes his own father's biography as saying his father was the > son of Thomas Mattingley and Nancy Ann Wood, and continues: "His > grandfather, Joseph Mattingly. and great grandfather, Luke Mattingly, > were both born near the present city of Hagerstown, Washington Co., Md. > From this locality at an early date, they started westward across the > Alleghanies to that country explored by Daniel Boone, locating in Marion > County, Ky. Joseph Mattingly, under Shelby Hoplins, was with General > Jackson at the battle of New Orleans.... In 1832, William Mattingley > moved with his parents to Spencer County, Ind..." (p. 62) > > [to sum up -- > Ambrose William Wallace Mattingley > William Mattingley = Elizabeth Hall > Thomas Mattingley = Nancy Ann Woods > Joseph Mattingley > Luke Mattingly (BB)] > > Fr. Ambrose also indicated that he himself had four half sisters and two > half brothers (Mark and Luke). (p.62) > _________________ > > Hoye's Pioneer Families of Garrett County (Parsons WV: McClaine, 1988), > reprinting a newspaper article from about 1936: > > "The Kentucky Mattinglys trace their ancestry to Charles, whose sons, > William, Leonard and Luke, settled at Hardin Creek, Ky., in 1786." (p. > 403) > > "In 1778, Henry, Barnett, Joseph and Richard Mattingly of Washington > Co., Md. took the Oath of Fidelity to the Revolution; they were > presumably sons of Luke Mattingly, who resided near Hagerstown, Md." (p. > 404) > _________________ > > Fr. Herman E. Mattingly, The Descendents of Henry Mattingly (c. > 1750-1823) (Newark OH: privately published, 1969): > > "Another tradition indicates that Henry was the brother of three > Mattinglys, Leonard, William and Luke, who left Leonardtown, Md., and > went to Kentucky about 1791. Charles Mattingly (1803-1897) testified > that his grandfather (HENRY I) 'was very much hurt when he heard of his > brother going to Kentucky without stopping to see him on his way.' > Charles also stated that to the best of his memory, the brother's name > was William." (p. iv) > _________________ > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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This is the 1800 Tax list for Washington Co. KY. 1800 Barnett 156 Breckinridge Co. 1800 John 1800 Joseph 1800 William 100 Cartwright 1800 Barnibas 1800 John 150 Shepards Run 1800 Gabriel 100 Hardin 1800 B. John 100 Beechfork 1800 Phillip 1800 James 1800 William 67.5 Prather 1800 Leonard 197 Stewarts 1800 Leonard 75 Prather 1800 James 1800 Joseph 1800 John 1800 Joseph 1800 William 45 Prather 1800 John 100 Stewarts 1800 Gabriel 1800 Jerry 1800 Ben 1800 Joseph 1800 Ignatius 114 Hardin 1800 Leonard 100 Hardin 1800 William 1800 Basil 100 Stewarts 1800 John 100 Cartwright 1800 Barnard 1800 William 1800 Leonard 75 Prather 1800 Robert 100 Hardin 1800 Mark 1800 Clem 100 Rolling Fork 1800 Luke 50 Prather 1800 Richard 100 Hardin 1800 Barton 100 Hardin 1800 B. John 1800 John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Burkey" <blaineb@slu.edu> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > I'm tossing the following into the pot tonight, just for completeness's > sake. Fr. Julius Mattingly's work may not be available to any of you, > and what it says about Fr. Ambrose Mattingley's line is not to be found > in Fr. Herman's books. And it may yet prove helpful somehow. > _____________________________________________ > > LUKE MATTINGLY > =============== > > Fr. Julius Mattingly, Traditions and Genealogy of the Mattingly Family > (West Baden IN: privately published, 1918: > > "1. CHARLES MATTINGLY. All the different branches of the Kentucky > Mattinglys trace their origin back to this Charles, only three of whose > issue we have any record: > 3. William. > 4. Leonard. > 5. Luke." (p.1) > > "3. WILLIAM MATTINGLY. It is positively known that this Wm. Mattingly > with his brothers, Leonard and Luke, came to Hardin Creek settlement, > Kentucky, in the year 1786, and that they came from St. Mary's County, > Maryland." (p.2) > > "5. LUKE MATTINGLY. The last of the trio of brothers who settled in > Hardin Creek in 1786, of whom nothing can be recorded, save that a few > years ago, one of his descendants, John G. Mattingly, was living in > Manton, Washington County, Ky., a respectable members [sic] of Holy > Rosary church." (p. 2) > > REV. AMBROSE WILLIAM WALLACE MATTINGLEY, O.S.B., born 8 Sept. 1865, near > Eurica, Ind., was the son of Wiilliam Mattingly and Elizabeth Hall. > Ambrose quotes his own father's biography as saying his father was the > son of Thomas Mattingley and Nancy Ann Wood, and continues: "His > grandfather, Joseph Mattingly. and great grandfather, Luke Mattingly, > were both born near the present city of Hagerstown, Washington Co., Md. > >From this locality at an early date, they started westward across the > Alleghanies to that country explored by Daniel Boone, locating in Marion > County, Ky. Joseph Mattingly, under Shelby Hoplins, was with General > Jackson at the battle of New Orleans.... In 1832, William Mattingley > moved with his parents to Spencer County, Ind..." (p. 62) > > [to sum up -- > Ambrose William Wallace Mattingley > William Mattingley = Elizabeth Hall > Thomas Mattingley = Nancy Ann Woods > Joseph Mattingley > Luke Mattingly (BB)] > > Fr. Ambrose also indicated that he himself had four half sisters and two > half brothers (Mark and Luke). (p.62) > _________________ > > Hoye's Pioneer Families of Garrett County (Parsons WV: McClaine, 1988), > reprinting a newspaper article from about 1936: > > "The Kentucky Mattinglys trace their ancestry to Charles, whose sons, > William, Leonard and Luke, settled at Hardin Creek, Ky., in 1786." (p. > 403) > > "In 1778, Henry, Barnett, Joseph and Richard Mattingly of Washington > Co., Md. took the Oath of Fidelity to the Revolution; they were > presumably sons of Luke Mattingly, who resided near Hagerstown, Md." (p. > 404) > _________________ > > Fr. Herman E. Mattingly, The Descendents of Henry Mattingly (c. > 1750-1823) (Newark OH: privately published, 1969): > > "Another tradition indicates that Henry was the brother of three > Mattinglys, Leonard, William and Luke, who left Leonardtown, Md., and > went to Kentucky about 1791. Charles Mattingly (1803-1897) testified > that his grandfather (HENRY I) 'was very much hurt when he heard of his > brother going to Kentucky without stopping to see him on his way.' > Charles also stated that to the best of his memory, the brother's name > was William." (p. iv) > _________________ > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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In a message dated 3/22/2004 9:40:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, Charley Moore writes: > Judith, etal I forgot to list all the Mattinglys for 1810. After Barton we have Luke & wife over 45; 1 son -10; 2 daus 10-15; 2 sons & 1 dau 16-25; Mary over 45 with 2 sons & 2 daus 10-15; 1 son & 2 daus 16-25; Leonard & wife over 45 with 1 male 26-45; Bazil and wife 26-45 with 2 sons & 2 daus under 10; Joseph 26-45 with wife 16-25 and 3 daus under 10; Joseph & wife over 45 with 2 sons under 10; 2 sons 1 dau 10-15; 1 son 1 dau 16-25; 1 dau 26-45; Bennett and wife 26-45; 3 sons & 2 daus -10; 1 dau 10-15; Barton & wife 26-45 with 3 daus 10-15; Barnett 26-45 and wife 26-45; John B. and wife over 45 with 1 dau 16-25; and Charles and wife 16-25. That is all Charley > >

Judith, etal This might be a good time to run down the appearance of Mattinglys in Kentucky. Nelson County In 1787 we find in Nelson Co, KY: Leonard; Ignatius; John; and Leonard [probably Old Leonard and three sons.] In 1788 we find: John; Leonard; Leonard, Jr. [Prob Old Leonard & 2 sons] in 1789 we find: Robert; Lenard, Jr.; William; Luke. {Prob Lenard and 2 bros, Wm and Luke; and James on, Robert. In 1790 we find: Robert; Leonard; Luke; William; Ignatius; John; Lenard; Basil; Philip; John. [prob same as in 1789 plus three of Leonards sons; and Philip & John.] IN 1791 we find: John; Joseph; John Baptist; Philip. [Prob 2 sons of Old Leonard; John Baptist who died in 1817 Will; and Philip still looking for connection. In 1792 we find: Phillip; Clement; Robert; William; Ignatius; Leonard; Luke; John; Leonard; John. {Probably Phillip above; Clement???; Robert above; Ignatius son of Leonard; bros Wm; Leonard; Luke; John & Leonard son of Leonard; John ???.] 1795 we find; Phillip and 1800. Phillip. Mattinglys are now in Washington County. In 1810 Census we find: John & his wife, 26-45, 4 sons under 10; 1 dau 10-16. ?????. Certainly not John, son of old Leonard; Leonard 26-45 & wife over 45 with son and dau under 10; son and dau 10-16; son 16-25 - prob Leonard, Jr.; Clement & wife over 45 with 5 children 10-25; Joseph and wife 26-45 with 3 sons -10 & one -16 ????; William 26-45 with 4 daus7 1 son -10; 1son and 2 daus 16-25; and, the one you have been waiting for: Barton & wife under 25 with 3 sons under 10 [guess Dad Luke was still in MO. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Picking up on your Luke SENIOR Mattingly,

From what I can tell from looking at the census and tax records there was one adult Luke here early. He was born in the 1760-1765 range. He was taxed on less than 50 acres of land on Prather's Creek (at least on and off from 1797 to 1821). Prather's Creek runs from Raywick to Loretto in present day Marion Co. What year did Luke supposedly make a move to Missouri and then move back to Kentucky? In 1810 he is listed at being over 45 years of age. The list is alphabetical so I can't tell who his neighbors are. In 1820 he was living next to Leonard Cambron, William Miles, John Miles, John Baptist Cambron, William Cambron. This was Hardin's Creek area. The following was written down for me about 15 years ago by an old Cambron researcher now deceased: ."..... Charles T. Blandford had previously purchased a 100 acres from John Liston & wife which lay on Hardin's Creek adjoining Thomas Cambron's 100 acres in 1796. Tax Records 1793 Wash. Co.Ky indicate that Thomas Cambron's 100 acres were originally patented by John Grundy. Thomas Cambron was the father of Nancy Cambron who married Donohoo in Nelson Co. Ky in 1789. He and his wife signed consent for their daughter to marry David Allen, Jr. His (David's) mother, Sarah Mattingly gave consent. Mrs. Sarah Allen married Clement Mattingly in Nelson Co., Ky. There were summoned to court in Wash. Co., Ky to show cause why the children of her first marriage should not be bound out. I believe that Thomas Cambron's widow, Mrs. "Betha" Cambron married Luke Mattingly. Luke Mattingly was the father of Anna Cambron who married William Taylor. This couple moved to Perry Co. Missouri. Luke Mattingly was the step-father of Benjamin Cambron who was bound to James O'Daniel. He my have gone to Missouri with James O'Daniel. There was a Benjamin Cambron in Perry Co. who married Elizabeth Grass." 1830 finds him 60-70 years old and living next to Marcus Lindsey. Marcus lived on Crab Run which is located between Frogtown Road and Loretto Road in Marion Co. This is on the edge of the Mattingly settlement on Hardin's Creek. This is just down the road from where I live. 1840 he is 70-80 years old and is still living next to Marcus Lindsey's widow, Catherine. I loose record of him between 1840 and 1850. The tax records should narrow down the year when I can look them up. His probate records went up in smoke in 1864 when the court records burned since he was living in Marion Co. NOW, if this is the brother to Leonard and William then the old story of him remaining on the island at Fredericksburg in Washington Co. KY instead of moving to Hardin's Creek in Marion Co. just flew out the window. IF this is not the brother to Leonard and William.... then where are records for that Luke? I think it almost has to be him?!? This is a good map to use for looking at the streams and creeks of Marion Co. http://ukcc.uky.edu/%7Emaps/marion.gif Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Burger" <bburger1-2@comcast.net> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > Picking up on your Luke SENIOR Mattingly, I have wondered about these two > entries below. I wonder if the Sr. might mean that there were two Lukes in > the neighborhood at the time and one was older than the other. > > I was wondering too if the Luke Mattingly that supplied for the army in Oct > 1780 might be Luke 1702-1783 s/o Thomas II, cause he would have been too old > to have been drafted but could have been a supplier of the army, and the > Luke that was drafted in 1781 might be the son of Ignatius Sr. that come to > KY and had 10 daughters and one son, Thomas Leonard. He seems like a sorta > hard luck individual. One of my most favorite Washington County KY entries > in 1791 refers to him, I think. I'll paste it below. Maybe it's my sick > sense of humor, but I laugh every time I read it. He doesn't sound sure how > his sight became impaired, but it MIGHT be..... > > However that does not explain the two Luke Mattinglys on the 1794 St. > Inigoes Parish Census while > 1) Luke Mattingly s/o Thomas II died in 1783 > 2) Luke Mattingly of the impaired sight is in Washington County in 1791. > (He may be the Luke Mattingly on the 1790 Nelson > County Tax list -Jno. Hardin #2 along with Basil, Ignatius, John, Leonard > and Robert Mattingly. It looks like it might be > the same bunch that ended up in Washington County after 1792 when it was > formed. > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/nelson/taxlists/taxes/nelson4.txt > Then there are these Census records: > Census Records-Soundex-All States > > Name Home in 1790 (City,County,State) Year View Census (No KY Yet) > Luke Mattingley Unknown Township, St Marys, MD 1790 > ================== > Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census (No KY available) > Luke Mattingly Not Stated, St Mary's, MD 1800 > NOTE: Courtesy Karen Fowler Caldwell, 1805 Washington County, Kentucky Tax > List, MATTINGLY, Joseph son of Luke. (Luke s/o Ignatius Sr. didn't have a > son named Joseph.) > ================== > Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census > Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Washington, KY 1810 > Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Saint Mary's, MD 1810 > ================== > Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census > Luke Mattingly Not Stated,Washington,KY 1820 > Luke Mattingly Not Stated,Washington,KY 1820 > ================== > Judith > ----------------- > (Luke s/o Thomas II ??) > CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled > from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial > Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p. 78 > > A return of Beef on the Hoof Purchased by Joseph Ford, Commissary of > Purchases for St. Mary's County from the 5th till 14th Octr. 1780 <snip> > > Date: Oct. 13, No Vou.: 7, Vouchers Name: Luke Mattingly, No. Steers: 2, > Supposed Weight: 800, Rate Old Money: 82*10*, Old Money 660*0*0 > Archives of Maryland Vol. 45, p. 155, 156. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > (Luke son of Ignatius, Sr. ??) > CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled > from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial > Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p.162 > > INDEX of Military and Civilian Personnel of St. Mary's County, Maryland in > the American Revolution > > Mattingly, Luke > > Pvt. Army Draught 8/4/1781 p. 102 > --------------------------------------------------------- > (Luke s/o Ignatius, Sr.??) > CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled > from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial > Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p. 102 > > August 4, 1781 > Col. Uriah Forrest, Leonard Town to Gov. Lee > "Humanity" causes him to intercede on behalf of <snip> only two others merit > Interposition: Clerk Spalding and Luke Mattingly both of whom are very > Poor, Rent Land and have a number of children who must inevitably starve > the men are not permitted to return; they bring recommendations from Col. > Richard Barnes. <snip> > Archives of Maryland Vol. 47, p. 387. > -------------------------------------------------------- > (Luke, s/o Ignatius, Sr.??) > PIONEER HISTORY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY, Edited and Indexed by > Michael L. Cook and Bettie Anne Cook, 1980, McDowell Publ., Utica, KY, p. > 251. > Abstracted from Record of the County Militia, p. 16 > > Proceedings of a Court Martial held at Wm. Hayden's > Decr. 22nd, 1791 > Luke Mattingly, Delinqt. of Capt. Ewing's Co. present. adduces Jno. > Mattingly in his Behalf who says he believes he has lost his sight in a > great measure by reason of a pen-knife some time past ran into it. The > Court after Examining the sd Delinqt. & further being informed of his > inability at the time of the Draught are of Opinion he shall be taken off > the Muster Roll. > --------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blaine Burkey" <blaineb@slu.edu> > To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > > > > Judith, Charlie, and all, > > > > My silence through all the messages flying fast and furiously does not > > betoken disinterest. I just thought it best to sit awhile and listen. > > > > HOWEVER, before I go to bed, let me throw in "another" unacknowledged > > Luke Mattingly, or perhaps an unrecognized relationship of one of the > > Lukes we already had. > > > > My reference is to the Oaths of Allegiance to the State of Maryland > > which were signed in St. Mary's County in 1778. One of the signatories > > was Luke Mattingly, Senior. [Herman E. Mattingly, Mattingly Family in > > Early America, 1975, p. 212, citing Chronicles of St. Mary's, July, > > 1956, p. 45.] > > > > It seems to me, if we have a Luke, Sr., there is also a Luke Jr. > > somewhere, whose relationship to Luke, Sr., is clear, and who does not > > seem to have signed, either because he was already in the military or > > because he had not reached 18 years of age by 1778 (and thus was born > > after 1760 in Maryland). I think the latter situation is true, since we > > have extensive records of military service, with no reference to any > > Luke. > > ________________________________ > > > > Now Luke Mattingly, son of Tom II, did not have a son named Luke. > > > > So who was Luke Sr. -- > > > > Luke, son of John, son of Caesar? > > > > Luke, son of Ignatius, son of Tom II? > > > > Maybe the Luke who married Eleanor Thompson? > > > > Or some other Luke? > > ________________________________ > > > > And who was Luke Jr. -- > > > > Maybe Barton's father? > > > > The Luke who married Betha Cabron? > > > > Or some other Luke? > > ________________________________ > > > > Before Christmas I put together a jigsaw puzzle -- the hardest I've ever > > seen. The picture was over of 101 Dalmatians.-- all closely pushed > > together -- with myriad spots. The picture was printed on both sides of > > the tiles -- but turned 90 degrees. All the pieces were almost exacly > > the same shape, but each slightly different.. > > > > That puzzle was a piece of cake compared to the Mattingly family. The > > shapes of the pieces and the arrangement of the spots are constantly > > changing and we have no idea whether or not we have all the pieces. > > > > But hope springs eternal for a breakthrough. > > > > Nightie Night. > > > > fr Blaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > > > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I'm tossing the following into the pot tonight, just for completeness's sake. Fr. Julius Mattingly's work may not be available to any of you, and what it says about Fr. Ambrose Mattingley's line is not to be found in Fr. Herman's books. And it may yet prove helpful somehow. _____________________________________________ LUKE MATTINGLY =============== Fr. Julius Mattingly, Traditions and Genealogy of the Mattingly Family (West Baden IN: privately published, 1918: "1. CHARLES MATTINGLY. All the different branches of the Kentucky Mattinglys trace their origin back to this Charles, only three of whose issue we have any record: 3. William. 4. Leonard. 5. Luke." (p.1) "3. WILLIAM MATTINGLY. It is positively known that this Wm. Mattingly with his brothers, Leonard and Luke, came to Hardin Creek settlement, Kentucky, in the year 1786, and that they came from St. Mary's County, Maryland." (p.2) "5. LUKE MATTINGLY. The last of the trio of brothers who settled in Hardin Creek in 1786, of whom nothing can be recorded, save that a few years ago, one of his descendants, John G. Mattingly, was living in Manton, Washington County, Ky., a respectable members [sic] of Holy Rosary church." (p. 2) REV. AMBROSE WILLIAM WALLACE MATTINGLEY, O.S.B., born 8 Sept. 1865, near Eurica, Ind., was the son of Wiilliam Mattingly and Elizabeth Hall. Ambrose quotes his own father's biography as saying his father was the son of Thomas Mattingley and Nancy Ann Wood, and continues: "His grandfather, Joseph Mattingly. and great grandfather, Luke Mattingly, were both born near the present city of Hagerstown, Washington Co., Md. From this locality at an early date, they started westward across the Alleghanies to that country explored by Daniel Boone, locating in Marion County, Ky. Joseph Mattingly, under Shelby Hoplins, was with General Jackson at the battle of New Orleans.... In 1832, William Mattingley moved with his parents to Spencer County, Ind..." (p. 62) [to sum up -- Ambrose William Wallace Mattingley William Mattingley = Elizabeth Hall Thomas Mattingley = Nancy Ann Woods Joseph Mattingley Luke Mattingly (BB)] Fr. Ambrose also indicated that he himself had four half sisters and two half brothers (Mark and Luke). (p.62) _________________ Hoye's Pioneer Families of Garrett County (Parsons WV: McClaine, 1988), reprinting a newspaper article from about 1936: "The Kentucky Mattinglys trace their ancestry to Charles, whose sons, William, Leonard and Luke, settled at Hardin Creek, Ky., in 1786." (p. 403) "In 1778, Henry, Barnett, Joseph and Richard Mattingly of Washington Co., Md. took the Oath of Fidelity to the Revolution; they were presumably sons of Luke Mattingly, who resided near Hagerstown, Md." (p. 404) _________________ Fr. Herman E. Mattingly, The Descendents of Henry Mattingly (c. 1750-1823) (Newark OH: privately published, 1969): "Another tradition indicates that Henry was the brother of three Mattinglys, Leonard, William and Luke, who left Leonardtown, Md., and went to Kentucky about 1791. Charles Mattingly (1803-1897) testified that his grandfather (HENRY I) 'was very much hurt when he heard of his brother going to Kentucky without stopping to see him on his way.' Charles also stated that to the best of his memory, the brother's name was William." (p. iv) _________________

Picking up on your Luke SENIOR Mattingly, I have wondered about these two entries below. I wonder if the Sr. might mean that there were two Lukes in the neighborhood at the time and one was older than the other. I was wondering too if the Luke Mattingly that supplied for the army in Oct 1780 might be Luke 1702-1783 s/o Thomas II, cause he would have been too old to have been drafted but could have been a supplier of the army, and the Luke that was drafted in 1781 might be the son of Ignatius Sr. that come to KY and had 10 daughters and one son, Thomas Leonard. He seems like a sorta hard luck individual. One of my most favorite Washington County KY entries in 1791 refers to him, I think. I'll paste it below. Maybe it's my sick sense of humor, but I laugh every time I read it. He doesn't sound sure how his sight became impaired, but it MIGHT be..... However that does not explain the two Luke Mattinglys on the 1794 St. Inigoes Parish Census while 1) Luke Mattingly s/o Thomas II died in 1783 2) Luke Mattingly of the impaired sight is in Washington County in 1791. (He may be the Luke Mattingly on the 1790 Nelson County Tax list -Jno. Hardin #2 along with Basil, Ignatius, John, Leonard and Robert Mattingly. It looks like it might be the same bunch that ended up in Washington County after 1792 when it was formed. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/nelson/taxlists/taxes/nelson4.txt Then there are these Census records: Census Records-Soundex-All States Name Home in 1790 (City,County,State) Year View Census (No KY Yet) Luke Mattingley Unknown Township, St Marys, MD 1790 ================== Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census (No KY available) Luke Mattingly Not Stated, St Mary's, MD 1800 NOTE: Courtesy Karen Fowler Caldwell, 1805 Washington County, Kentucky Tax List, MATTINGLY, Joseph son of Luke. (Luke s/o Ignatius Sr. didn't have a son named Joseph.) ================== Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Washington, KY 1810 Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Saint Mary's, MD 1810 ================== Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census Luke Mattingly Not Stated,Washington,KY 1820 Luke Mattingly Not Stated,Washington,KY 1820 ================== Judith ----------------- (Luke s/o Thomas II ??) CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p. 78 A return of Beef on the Hoof Purchased by Joseph Ford, Commissary of Purchases for St. Mary's County from the 5th till 14th Octr. 1780 <snip> Date: Oct. 13, No Vou.: 7, Vouchers Name: Luke Mattingly, No. Steers: 2, Supposed Weight: 800, Rate Old Money: 82*10*, Old Money 660*0*0 Archives of Maryland Vol. 45, p. 155, 156. ---------------------------------------------------------- (Luke son of Ignatius, Sr. ??) CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p.162 INDEX of Military and Civilian Personnel of St. Mary's County, Maryland in the American Revolution Mattingly, Luke Pvt. Army Draught 8/4/1781 p. 102 --------------------------------------------------------- (Luke s/o Ignatius, Sr.??) CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p. 102 August 4, 1781 Col. Uriah Forrest, Leonard Town to Gov. Lee "Humanity" causes him to intercede on behalf of <snip> only two others merit Interposition: Clerk Spalding and Luke Mattingly both of whom are very Poor, Rent Land and have a number of children who must inevitably starve the men are not permitted to return; they bring recommendations from Col. Richard Barnes. <snip> Archives of Maryland Vol. 47, p. 387. -------------------------------------------------------- (Luke, s/o Ignatius, Sr.??) PIONEER HISTORY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY, Edited and Indexed by Michael L. Cook and Bettie Anne Cook, 1980, McDowell Publ., Utica, KY, p. 251. Abstracted from Record of the County Militia, p. 16 Proceedings of a Court Martial held at Wm. Hayden's Decr. 22nd, 1791 Luke Mattingly, Delinqt. of Capt. Ewing's Co. present. adduces Jno. Mattingly in his Behalf who says he believes he has lost his sight in a great measure by reason of a pen-knife some time past ran into it. The Court after Examining the sd Delinqt. & further being informed of his inability at the time of the Draught are of Opinion he shall be taken off the Muster Roll. --------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Burkey" <blaineb@slu.edu> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > Judith, Charlie, and all, > > My silence through all the messages flying fast and furiously does not > betoken disinterest. I just thought it best to sit awhile and listen. > > HOWEVER, before I go to bed, let me throw in "another" unacknowledged > Luke Mattingly, or perhaps an unrecognized relationship of one of the > Lukes we already had. > > My reference is to the Oaths of Allegiance to the State of Maryland > which were signed in St. Mary's County in 1778. One of the signatories > was Luke Mattingly, Senior. [Herman E. Mattingly, Mattingly Family in > Early America, 1975, p. 212, citing Chronicles of St. Mary's, July, > 1956, p. 45.] > > It seems to me, if we have a Luke, Sr., there is also a Luke Jr. > somewhere, whose relationship to Luke, Sr., is clear, and who does not > seem to have signed, either because he was already in the military or > because he had not reached 18 years of age by 1778 (and thus was born > after 1760 in Maryland). I think the latter situation is true, since we > have extensive records of military service, with no reference to any > Luke. > ________________________________ > > Now Luke Mattingly, son of Tom II, did not have a son named Luke. > > So who was Luke Sr. -- > > Luke, son of John, son of Caesar? > > Luke, son of Ignatius, son of Tom II? > > Maybe the Luke who married Eleanor Thompson? > > Or some other Luke? > ________________________________ > > And who was Luke Jr. -- > > Maybe Barton's father? > > The Luke who married Betha Cabron? > > Or some other Luke? > ________________________________ > > Before Christmas I put together a jigsaw puzzle -- the hardest I've ever > seen. The picture was over of 101 Dalmatians.-- all closely pushed > together -- with myriad spots. The picture was printed on both sides of > the tiles -- but turned 90 degrees. All the pieces were almost exacly > the same shape, but each slightly different.. > > That puzzle was a piece of cake compared to the Mattingly family. The > shapes of the pieces and the arrangement of the spots are constantly > changing and we have no idea whether or not we have all the pieces. > > But hope springs eternal for a breakthrough. > > Nightie Night. > > fr Blaine > > > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Judith, Charlie, and all, My silence through all the messages flying fast and furiously does not betoken disinterest. I just thought it best to sit awhile and listen. HOWEVER, before I go to bed, let me throw in "another" unacknowledged Luke Mattingly, or perhaps an unrecognized relationship of one of the Lukes we already had. My reference is to the Oaths of Allegiance to the State of Maryland which were signed in St. Mary's County in 1778. One of the signatories was Luke Mattingly, Senior. [Herman E. Mattingly, Mattingly Family in Early America, 1975, p. 212, citing Chronicles of St. Mary's, July, 1956, p. 45.] It seems to me, if we have a Luke, Sr., there is also a Luke Jr. somewhere, whose relationship to Luke, Sr., is clear, and who does not seem to have signed, either because he was already in the military or because he had not reached 18 years of age by 1778 (and thus was born after 1760 in Maryland). I think the latter situation is true, since we have extensive records of military service, with no reference to any Luke. ________________________________ Now Luke Mattingly, son of Tom II, did not have a son named Luke. So who was Luke Sr. -- Luke, son of John, son of Caesar? Luke, son of Ignatius, son of Tom II? Maybe the Luke who married Eleanor Thompson? Or some other Luke? ________________________________ And who was Luke Jr. -- Maybe Barton's father? The Luke who married Betha Cabron? Or some other Luke? ________________________________ Before Christmas I put together a jigsaw puzzle -- the hardest I've ever seen. The picture was over of 101 Dalmatians.-- all closely pushed together -- with myriad spots. The picture was printed on both sides of the tiles -- but turned 90 degrees. All the pieces were almost exacly the same shape, but each slightly different.. That puzzle was a piece of cake compared to the Mattingly family. The shapes of the pieces and the arrangement of the spots are constantly changing and we have no idea whether or not we have all the pieces. But hope springs eternal for a breakthrough. Nightie Night. fr Blaine

Judith, etal There is a tendency for me to say this is the same Luke as mentioned in the Grace Brewer administration of John Mattinglys estate c1750 to which I made a previous comment with a sort of endorsement as the one we are looking for. However, we know that Luke was born before 1745 when John died which would make him 65 and a little old to be making another trip, [first from Md to Ky] to Missouri to obtain Land and turn it over to son, Barton. We may need another find like the one made by Father Burkey --- or a closer look at the other 951 pages of O'Roarks book. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Mattingly, Luke View Image Online #7 Is this Luke Mattingly father of > Jeremiah, Barton and Joseph?? > State: Kentucky Year: 1810 > County: Washington Roll: M252_8 > Township: Page: 292 > Image: 284 > 10201 2101006 > 1-Male under age 10 (1800-1810) > 2-Males 16 thru 25 (1785-1794) > 1-Male 45 and over (1785 or older) > 2-Females under age 10 (1800-1810) > 1-Female 10 thru 15 (1795-1800) > 1-Female 26 thru 44 (1766-1784)

Judith, et al We probably all have little to add to the family below, listed for Charles. I have his first named son, William marrying a Mary Turner. Were there estate papers for Mary in 1799?? I have also tried to attach a Henry who married Mary Knott, as another son. I also believe that Charles married a Jamison based on the fact that Ann Jamison made her will in 1724 and left 2 ewes to Charles Mattingly. And, I have no further knowledge of his son Luke. Charley 2@comcast.net writes: > Luke son of Charles son of Thomas Mattingly, II > > THE MATTINGLY FAMILY IN EARLY AMERICA, Herman E. Mattingly, 1975, Self > Published, 1975, Columbus, Ohio, p. 50 > "Charles Mattingly <snip> Paul H. Mattingly, Ph.D., Leonia, New, Jersey, > Charles Mattingly and gives children as William, Leonard, Luke, George and two > others unnamed." > NOTE: Charles Mattingly was the son of Thomas Mattingly II and was named in > his will of 1714: "...my estate be equally divided into six equal parts, > five of wch to my five Children to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and Ann, & > the sixth to my beloved wife Elizabeth Mattingly..") >

Judith, et al I believe this is the Mattingly line we are looking for. John, son of Cezar, with John + Grace Brewer and having the children listed below, including Luke. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > MARYLAND PROBATE RECORDS, PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, p. 25, > FTM CD 206 > John Mattenly 21.366 A SM L225.19.8 L255.0.10 Jun 21 1745 > Sureties: John Mattenly, George Haden > Received from: John Poore. > Payments to: Ann Haden, Matthew Harbert, Mr. Philip Key, John Chesher, > Edward Mattenly, James Thompson. > Distribution to: accountant (1/3). Residue to (orphans): John Mattenly, > Ignatius Mattenly, Richard Mattenly, Luke Mattenley, Joseph Mattenley, > Elizabeth Mattenley, Susanna Mattenley. > Administratrix: Grace Johnson, wife of Peter Johnson >

This Luke, son of Ignatius, is presumed to have been in Kentucky with his brothers Leonard and William in the late 1780's. The gift of one Shilling each would preclude either of them from making a claim on the estate should they come back to MD. On the other hand, I have this Luke as a prime candidate to have married Eleanor {?Nelly?} Thompson. I have also tried to connect 'Jeremiah' Mattingly to Luke, and a Barton; however, I will be the first to indicate that I have no documentation to support the idea. Eliminate another Luke?? Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Will Ignatius Mattingly St. Mary's County, Maryland, Signed: April 2, > 1789 Proved: April 22, 1789 > "... bequeath unto my beloved Sons Leonard one Shilling sterling, Luke, one > Shilling Sterling, William, one Shilling Sterling, Likewise to my beloved > Daughters, Elizabeth one Shilling Sterling, and Sarah, one Shilling Sterling. > Thirdly, and lastly, I give and bequeath all the Balance of my Estate, to be > equally divided between My Son Ignatius & Susanna my daughter..."

Judith: I believe we can eliminate this Luke. Luke, son of Thomas II was married to 2 Ford girls: Anastasia and Priscilla, the later who had been married to a Knott and 2d to a Skinner and 3d to Luke. Luke had two sons: Bennett and Zachariah. Bennett had only 1 son: Joseph Sylvester born 1792. Zachariah had 2 sons, Thomas bc1798, and Clement born c1804. Unless there is other data on this Luke, we can drop one. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Will Thomas Mattingly St. Mary's County, Maryland Signed: October 9, 1714 > Proved: January 12, 1714 > "... equally divided into six equal parts, five of wch to my five Children > to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and Ann, & the sixth to my beloved wife > Elizabeth Mattingly..."

Charely, I have found a few more records with the name Charles Mattingly on them. One seems to indicate that there may have been two in St. Mary's County in 1726. Could this be father and son or just a typo?? Who knows. Judith MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1724-1731, Libers 6-10, Skinner, p. 52, FTMCD 206 Thomas Melton 7.404 A SM L94.13.10 L24.19.10 July 5 1726 Received from: John Mattingly, John Pery, CHARLES MATTINGLY, Edword Furr, Thomas Johnson, William Prichett, Samuell Maddox, Thomas Green, John Shingly, Mary Prichett, John Suttell, Robert Long, CHARLES MATTINGLY, Margarett Madox,Robert Macklacklan, Mr. Henry Wharton. Payments to: Capt. Richard Hopewell, Edmund Farr, George Buck, Matthew Herbert, Thomas Nichols, John Burroughs, Vincent Taylor, Mr. Samuell Williamson, Thomas Scott. Executrix (surviving): Mary Walker, wife of Thomas Walker. NOTE: Appears to be two Charles Mattinglys listed. ========================================= MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1724-1731, Libers 6-10, Skinner, p.107, FTMCD 206 Jesse Doyne 9.251 A CH L79.7.8 L49.9.2 Jan 18 1728 Received from: CHARLES MATTINGLEY, John Massey, george Allen, John Tinib(?), Richard Robey. Payments to: Dr. Brown, Ignatius Doyne, Thomas Matthews, John Smith, Dr. Daniel Jenifer, James Glascock, Walter Winter, Charles Adams, Mary Millstead, John Terrill, Elisabeth Ozborn, Edward Millstead, Thomas Osborn, John Howard, Esq., Thomas Gardiner, John Eberneathey, John Speake, Joshua Doyne, Thomas Millstead. Executor: Robert Doyne. NOTE: Charles County, Maryland ========================================= MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS,1733-1738, Skinner, p. 18 FTMCD 206 John Peney 19.50 SM L13.10.11 Jul 2 1734 Aug 7 1734 Appraisers: John Mattenley, Richard Millard. Creditors: John Stewart, CHARLES MATTINGLY. Next of kin: William More, minors. Administratrix/Executrix: Cathrine Penny. ========================================= MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS,1733-1738, Skinner, p. 57 FTMCD 206 Mrs. Elisabeth Clark 21.296 SM L40.0.0 Feb 25 1735 Apr 12 1736 Appraisers: Thomas Spaulding (also Thomas Spalding), Thomas Mattingley (the signature is written CHARLES MATTINGLEY). Next of kin: William Road, Ellinor Clark. Administrator/Executor: Charles Hogdkins. ============================= ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > Judith, et al > > We probably all have little to add to the family below, listed for Charles. > I have his first named son, William marrying a Mary Turner. Were there estate > papers for Mary in 1799?? I have also tried to attach a Henry who married > Mary Knott, as another son. I also believe that Charles married a Jamison > based on the fact that Ann Jamison made her will in 1724 and left 2 ewes to > Charles Mattingly. And, I have no further knowledge of his son Luke. > > Charley > > > 2@comcast.net writes: > > > Luke son of Charles son of Thomas Mattingly, II > > > > THE MATTINGLY FAMILY IN EARLY AMERICA, Herman E. Mattingly, 1975, Self > > Published, 1975, Columbus, Ohio, p. 50 > > "Charles Mattingly <snip> Paul H. Mattingly, Ph.D., Leonia, New, Jersey, > > Charles Mattingly and gives children as William, Leonard, Luke, George and two > > others unnamed." > > NOTE: Charles Mattingly was the son of Thomas Mattingly II and was named in > > his will of 1714: "...my estate be equally divided into six equal parts, > > five of wch to my five Children to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and Ann, & > > the sixth to my beloved wife Elizabeth Mattingly..") > > > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

BOY, BOY, BOY This is what I like. Stuff from the horse's mouth. Thanks a million, Fr. Blaine. Were there any witnesses to these weddings listed?? Girls liked to have their favorite sister stand up with them sometimes and so did men like their brothers if they were available. Can you photocopy the smudged record? Maybe we can computer enhance it and make out what is written. You have probably found the keys to the kingdom, here, if we can just put them in the right lock. : ) Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Burkey" <blaineb@slu.edu> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Missouri > I had no idea that so many people would be stirred into action by my > questions. > > The "Mrs. Alvi" I inquired about suffered from my misspelling after > hearing the name. I'm satisfied at this point that her name was Alvey, > though I still don't know who she is. > > At this point, however, I am not at all concerned with finding her. > > It has been pointed out that the part of the pages in which I was most > interested (the first two paragraphs) came substantially from Timothy > O'Rourke's opus magnus, Maryland Catholics on the Frontier, The Missouri > and Texas Settlements,p. 171. > > I've also been shown a web site devoted to O'Rourke at > http://www.marylandcatholics.com/orourke.htm > > Wishing to see for myself the connection of a Luke Mattingly with > Barton, I tracked down the records of St. Mary of the Barrons on > microfilm at the archdiocesan archives in suburban St. Louis and made a > brief initial study of the marriage records. > > The first record is date 1822, and very quickly it becomes clear that > the Mattinglys were in Perryville in force by that time. > > The 8th couple married on 10 Feb. 1823 were William Robertson and Sarah > Mattingly (daughter of Barton Mattingly and Mary Camron). > > The 14th (on 8 July 1823) were Thomas Mattingly (son of Jeremiah > Mattingly and Sarah Ann Shanks) and Teresa Tucker. The priest was > J[oseph] Rosati, C.M., who later became the first bishop of St. Louis. > > The 18th (on 9 Dec. 1823) were Joseph Mattingly, son of Joseph Mattingly > and Ann Taylor, and Ann Star. > > I found that quite interesting since earlier in the day, someone had > told me they thought that Jeremiah and Joseph were brothers of Barton. > > Next was the 22th couple to be "married" -- Barton Mattingley (sic), son > of Luke Mattingley and ______ Camberin , and Elizabeth Camberin, > daughter of Soe [Zoe] Camberin in 1824 . The priest was [John Mary] > Odin, C.M. This was all in Latin, incidentally, and Luke's name thus > appears as Lucae. That is no reason to suspect his name was Lucas, as I > seen somewhere. > > I read the the name of Luke's wife as saying Betsy, O'Rourke has Nellie. > He may be right. I will need to check the emtry again. > > O'Rourke says "the record was quite garbled." It would have been more > accurate to say it is so smudged that it is very difficult to read, > especially the part referring to a prior ceremony. > > Rourke says explicitly "The spelling Cambren was used." I looked at it > for a long time and in all four instances where it appears IN THIS ENTRY > it seems to be "Camberin." > > Camron and Cambron and Cambern appeared in nearby entries. > > Well, that's enough for now. > > Peace and All Good! > > Fr. Blaine Burkey > > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I had no idea that so many people would be stirred into action by my questions. The "Mrs. Alvi" I inquired about suffered from my misspelling after hearing the name. I'm satisfied at this point that her name was Alvey, though I still don't know who she is. At this point, however, I am not at all concerned with finding her. It has been pointed out that the part of the pages in which I was most interested (the first two paragraphs) came substantially from Timothy O'Rourke's opus magnus, Maryland Catholics on the Frontier, The Missouri and Texas Settlements,p. 171. I've also been shown a web site devoted to O'Rourke at http://www.marylandcatholics.com/orourke.htm Wishing to see for myself the connection of a Luke Mattingly with Barton, I tracked down the records of St. Mary of the Barrons on microfilm at the archdiocesan archives in suburban St. Louis and made a brief initial study of the marriage records. The first record is date 1822, and very quickly it becomes clear that the Mattinglys were in Perryville in force by that time. The 8th couple married on 10 Feb. 1823 were William Robertson and Sarah Mattingly (daughter of Barton Mattingly and Mary Camron). The 14th (on 8 July 1823) were Thomas Mattingly (son of Jeremiah Mattingly and Sarah Ann Shanks) and Teresa Tucker. The priest was J[oseph] Rosati, C.M., who later became the first bishop of St. Louis. The 18th (on 9 Dec. 1823) were Joseph Mattingly, son of Joseph Mattingly and Ann Taylor, and Ann Star. I found that quite interesting since earlier in the day, someone had told me they thought that Jeremiah and Joseph were brothers of Barton. Next was the 22th couple to be "married" -- Barton Mattingley (sic), son of Luke Mattingley and ______ Camberin , and Elizabeth Camberin, daughter of Soe [Zoe] Camberin in 1824 . The priest was [John Mary] Odin, C.M. This was all in Latin, incidentally, and Luke's name thus appears as Lucae. That is no reason to suspect his name was Lucas, as I seen somewhere. I read the the name of Luke's wife as saying Betsy, O'Rourke has Nellie. He may be right. I will need to check the emtry again. O'Rourke says "the record was quite garbled." It would have been more accurate to say it is so smudged that it is very difficult to read, especially the part referring to a prior ceremony. Rourke says explicitly "The spelling Cambren was used." I looked at it for a long time and in all four instances where it appears IN THIS ENTRY it seems to be "Camberin." Camron and Cambron and Cambern appeared in nearby entries. Well, that's enough for now. Peace and All Good! Fr. Blaine Burkey

Good Morning It is Sat, the first day of Spring What is every one doing for this great day ? We also have a new moon to night. I am getting the wife's flower beds ready to plant. Been to wet up to now. Dan M

Shirley, I have sorted out the Mattingly data re: the posting below. I thought I'd start by trying to sort out which Luke was which and so have started gathering up as much Luke Mattingly data I could find from the early years which I will post below. I do not have court records and deeds/Indentures etc from KY but maybe Karen and others can help. All corrections, additions and comments encouraged. Judith Here are some Luke Mattingly references I have found to date. *************************** Will Thomas Mattingly St. Mary's County, Maryland Signed: October 9, 1714 Proved: January 12, 1714 "... equally divided into six equal parts, five of wch to my five Children to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and Ann, & the sixth to my beloved wife Elizabeth Mattingly..." --------------------------------------- Will Ignatius Mattingly St. Mary's County, Maryland, Signed: April 2, 1789 Proved: April 22, 1789 "... bequeath unto my beloved Sons Leonard one Shilling sterling, Luke, one Shilling Sterling, William, one Shilling Sterling, Likewise to my beloved Daughters, Elizabeth one Shilling Sterling, and Sarah, one Shilling Sterling. Thirdly, and lastly, I give and bequeath all the Balance of my Estate, to be equally divided between My Son Ignatius & Susanna my daughter..." --------------------------------------- MARYLAND PROBATE RECORDS, PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, p. 25, FTM CD 206 John Mattenly 21.366 A SM L225.19.8 L255.0.10 Jun 21 1745 Sureties: John Mattenly, George Haden Received from: John Poore. Payments to: Ann Haden, Matthew Harbert, Mr. Philip Key, John Chesher, Edward Mattenly, James Thompson. Distribution to: accountant (1/3). Residue to (orphans): John Mattenly, Ignatius Mattenly, Richard Mattenly, Luke Mattenley, Joseph Mattenley, Elizabeth Mattenley, Susanna Mattenley. Administratrix: Grace Johnson, wife of Peter Johnson -------------------------------------- Luke son of Charles son of Thomas Mattingly, II THE MATTINGLY FAMILY IN EARLY AMERICA, Herman E. Mattingly, 1975, Self Published, 1975, Columbus, Ohio, p. 50 "Charles Mattingly <snip> Paul H. Mattingly, Ph.D., Leonia, New, Jersey, Charles Mattingly and gives children as William, Leonard, Luke, George and two others unnamed." NOTE: Charles Mattingly was the son of Thomas Mattingly II and was named in his will of 1714: "...my estate be equally divided into six equal parts, five of wch to my five Children to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and Ann, & the sixth to my beloved wife Elizabeth Mattingly..") --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p.162 INDEX of Military and Civilian Personnel of St. Mary's County, Maryland in the American Revolution Mattingly, Luke Supplier to Army 10/20/1780 p. 78 ------------------------------------------------ CALENDAR OF EVENTS ST. MARY'S COUNTY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Compiled from the Official Records of Maryland for the St. Mary's County Bicentennial Commission by Edwin Beitzell, 1975, p. 78 A return of Beef on the Hoof Purchased by Joseph Ford, Commissary of Purchases for St. Mary's County from the 5th till 14th Octr. 1780 <snip> Date: Oct. 13, No Vou.: 7, Vouchers Name: Luke Mattingly, No. Steers: 2, Supposed Weight: 800, Rate Old Money: 82*10*, Old Money 660*0*0 Archives of Maryland Vol. 45, p. 155, 156. MARRIAGES AND DEATHS ST. MARY'S COUNTY, MARYLAND 1634-1900, Margaret K. Fresco, 1982-2001, Brookville, MD, p. 204 Mattingly, Luke, m. Priscilla, widow of George Knott, Ref. Admin acct of Luke, 21: 137,9 dtd 11/29/1744 (I have this Luke as the son of Thomas II. Priscilla as Priscilla Ford daughter of Robert Ford, d.1735-1740 and Mary Heard. This Luke names all his children in his will of 1783 and there is no Barton.) Luke, m. Elizabeth Thompson, 11 Feb 1772 (11) ( From Beitzel's "Jesuit Missions") Luke, ml. 16 Jan 1811, Mary Hayden (1) (From Brumbaugh's "Maryland Records, Vol I") No Deaths or Corrections Listed JB ------------------------- CATHOLIC FAMILIES OF SOUTHERN MARYLAND, Timothy J. O'Rourke, Re-Print. 2001, Genealogical Publ. Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, p. 34 1772 11 Feb Luke Mattingly and Eleanor Thompson, related in the second degree. NOTE: No asterisk to denote St. Inigoes. This is the only entry for Luke Mattingly. JB ---------------------------- THE JESUIT MISSIONS OF ST. MARY'S COUNTY, MARYLAND, Edwin W. Beitzell, Reprinted 1998, St. Mary's County Historical Society, Leonardtown, Maryland Parish Census of St. Inigoes St. Mary's County 1794 p. 99 Two (2) Luke Mattingly listings p. 100 Luke Mattingly listed as owner of Slave: Ellen p. 101 Luke Mattingly listed as owner of Slave:Joseph. Appears to be a second Luke Mattingly who is listed as owner of Salves: Matthew, Phyllis, Baptist, Ignatius and Sara (end of Parish Census data) p. 168 "Father Walton, while at Newtown from 1765 to 1768 and again from 1769-1784, kept a diary in which he recorded <snip> a register of marriages <snip> the transcription of the marriages is the work of the author." p. 144 Feb 11 1772 Luke Mattingly & Eliz. Thompson --------------------------- NELSON CO., KENTUCKY MARRIAGES 1785-1810, Charles M. Franklin, 1985, Heritage House, Indianapolis, IN. No listing for Luke Mattingly NELSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGES VOLUME II 1811-1830, Charles M. Franklin, 1986, Ye Olde Genealogie Shoppe, Indianapolis, Indiana No listing for Luke Mattingly ------------------------------ WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS 1792-1878, Margaret Clark Kington, 1981, McDowell Publications, Utica, Kentucky, p. 27 22 Jan 1799 Cambron, Ignatius - -Dorothea Mattingly, Luke Mattingly (M) Baldwin (Baptist) Bk 1-24 p. 27 9 Jan 1799 Cambron, Leonard - Sarah Mattingly, Luke Mattingly (M) Michael Fournier (Catholic) Bk 1-28 p. 116 7 Aug 1804 MATTINGLY, Luke - Betha Cambron Bk 1-60 ------------------------------- EARLY CATHOLIC CEMETERY LISTINGS OF WASHINGTON, NELSON, AND MARION COUNTIES, KENTUCKY, West-Central Kentucky Family Research Association, 1984, Owensboro, Kentucky p. 46 L. Luke (Mattingly) s/o F & M Jan . 10, 1857 Mar 30 1890 (St. Charles, Marion County) ------------------------------ WASHINGTON COUNTY, KENTUCKY TAXPAYERS 1792-1799, T. L. C. Genealogy, 1990, 1992, Miami Beach, Fl, p p. 43 Matingly, Luke 1793 Mattingley, Luke 1796 Mattingly, Luke 1792, 1794, 1795, 1797, 1799 --------------------------------- There is only one Luke Mattingly-Soundex-All States listed in the 1790 Census, of course Ky not included Luke Mattingley Unknown Township, St Marys, MD 1790. In 1800 he appears to still be there: Luke Mattingly Not Stated, St Mary's, MD 1800. Still no Kentucky, but in 1810 another Luke shows up in KY in addition to the Maryland Luke Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Washington, KY 1810 (See below) Luke Mattingly Not Stated, Saint Mary's, MD 1810 Mattingly, Luke View Image Online #7 Is this Luke Mattingly father of Jeremiah, Barton and Joseph?? State: Kentucky Year: 1810 County: Washington Roll: M252_8 Township: Page: 292 Image: 284 10201 2101006 1-Male under age 10 (1800-1810) 2-Males 16 thru 25 (1785-1794) 1-Male 45 and over (1785 or older) 2-Females under age 10 (1800-1810) 1-Female 10 thru 15 (1795-1800) 1-Female 26 thru 44 (1766-1784) ============================================= Mattingly, Luk View Image Online #3 State: Kentucky Year: 1820 County: Washington Roll: M33_29 Township: Unknown Townships Page: 43 Image: 45 200011 40211 2-Males under 10 years of age (1810-1820) grandsons of Luk?? 1-Male of 26 and under 45 (1779-1794) son of Luk?? 1-Male of 45 and up (1775 or before) Luk 4-Females under age 10 (1810-1820) granddaughters of Luk?? 2-Females of 16 and under 26 (1794-1804) daughters of Luk?? 1-Female of 26 and under 45 (1779-1794) daughter-in-law of Luk?? 1-Female age 45 and up (1775 or before) wife of Luk ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Plattshirl@aol.com To: MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com ; bburger1-2@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly Judith--question for you...I found a marriage record in Washington Co, KY for Barton Mattingly and Polly Cambron: Washington Co, KY Marriages 1792-1878; Kington, Margaret Clark; pg 114 County marriage book 1 pg 57; marriage 4 Aug 1804 by Rev Stephen Theodore Baden. Is this the same Barton Mattingly who married Elizabeth Cambron mentioned below? Thanks! Shirley In a message dated 3/19/2004 2:48:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: The parish records of The Barrens indicate that Barton Mattingly and Elizabeth Cambron, married civilly ca 1819, were married in a religious ceremony in 1824 by Rev. John Odin. The record was quite garbled but it appeared to say that Barton was the son of Luke Mattingly and Nelly Cambron, while his wife was the daughter of Soe (Zoe?) Cambron. The spelling Cambren was used.