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    1. Barton s/o Luke
    2. Geo Signs
    3. I see there is a lot of discussion about Luke Mattingly & his son Barton, who are my 3rd & 4th great-grandfathers through Barton's son Benedict Joseph. My records show the following family information: 7 Aug 1804 - Luke Mattingly m. Betha (Elizabeth?)Cambron, a widow, in Washington Co., KY. Surety: John Flanagan made oath that the bride was over 21. Previously on 4 Apr 1796 - John Flanagan m. Eliza Mattingly (Luke's sister or relative?) Wit: Lenard & Ann Matingly; Washington Co., KY. I don't have proof on this, but it appears that Luke first married a Spalding who was Jeremiah's mother. He then married Eleanor "Nelly" Thompson in 1772. Son, Joseph was born in 1773 and Barton in 1776. 5 Oct 1804 - There was an obligation of an intended marriage between Barton Mattingly and Polly Cambron. Ignatius Cambron made oath that bride and groom were both over 21. It was signed by Ignatius Cambron and Barton Mattingly. 8 Oct 1804 - Barton Mattingly was married to Polly Cambron, by S.T. Badin, on Minister's return. 1 Jan 1819 - Barton Mattingly m. Elizabeth Cambron in Tell City, Perry Co., IN. in a civil ceremony. After arriving in Perry Co., MO., Barton and Elizabeth were married in a religious ceremony in the Catholic Church. Wit: Benedict (Benjamin?)Cambron and Thomas Layton. Possibly the reason Nelly Cambron was listed as Barton's mother in the recording of the church ceremony is because his biological mother was Nelly while his step-mother was a Cambron. I can see how someone, who did not know the family well, could have got the names confused; especially if the information was not recorded immediately. Barton's name was Bartholomew and Polly's was Mary. The name Cambron has been spelled every-which-a-way. As far as Elizabeth's father's name appearing to be Zoƫ or Soe Cambron, O'Rourke wasn't sure. Could it be Thos.? I have seen the entry and I cannot be sure. However, when Elizabeth married again after Barton's death, her parents were listed as Thomas Cambron and Anna Ausban (a variation of Osborn?). I welcome any corrections and additions to the above. Who was the Eliza Mattingly that married John Flanagan? Loretta

    04/06/2004 03:58:03
    1. [MATTINGLY] Barton and Luke Mattingly
    2. Blaine Burkey
    3. Referring to my summation from yesterday of the Barton & Luke unravelling, RafB@aol.com wrote: > Hello Fr. Blaine--- > Is this the Barton Mattingly who was a son of Elizabeth (Thompson) and > Luke Mattingly? Thanks, > Ralph Banks, Austin, TX I think Ralph means Eleanor Thompson -- which can also be put as "Nelly" Thompson. And there is a very good chance that what he says is true: namely, that Missouri's Barton.was the one who married "Nelly" Thompson. Many people think so. The church records of St. Mary of the Barrens calls Barton the son of Luke Mattingly and "Nelly" Cambron. There has been some speculation that Luke's wife was originally a Cambron and married a Thompson prior to marrying Luke. It occurs to me this evening that simpler explanations are possible, that do not require another completely undocumented wedding: 1. The document in question speaks of Barton marrying an Elizabeth Cambron daughter of an undecipherably-named Cambron, has a sponsor named Cambron and has the word Cambron flagged in the margin along with Mattingly. I think the priest easily could have mistakenly put a fith "Cambron" where he should have said "Thompson." 2. Unlike the other records in the Barrens book, this particular record is dated only with a year -- no month and day -- which leads me to believe it was put there sometime after the event and was done from memory -- a memory which had not retained the month and day -- and possibly not retained Barton's mother's correct name. Supporting this thought is the fact that the record has the name of only one parents of the bride, unlke other records in the book which name both parents of the bride. I rest my case. _______________________________________________. May all of you have a blessed Holy Week. Fr. Blaine Just for the record, the Barrens book has the name Cambron misspelled Cambern all five times.

    04/05/2004 05:50:21
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton and Luke Mattingly
    2. Laurie
    3. FYI Luke Mattingly md Betha Cambron, 8/7/1804 Washington Co., KY (KY marriage index) Luke Mattingly md Elizabeth Thompson 2/11/1772 St. Mary's MD (from a conglomerate marriage index) Luke Mattingly md Eleanor Thompson 2/11/1772 (from Church Records of St. Xaviar, St. Mary's Co., MD) Laurie Morales Blaine Burkey <blaineb@slu.edu> wrote: Referring to my summation from yesterday of the Barton & Luke unravelling, RafB@aol.com wrote: > Hello Fr. Blaine--- > Is this the Barton Mattingly who was a son of Elizabeth (Thompson) and > Luke Mattingly? Thanks, > Ralph Banks, Austin, TX I think Ralph means Eleanor Thompson -- which can also be put as "Nelly" Thompson. And there is a very good chance that what he says is true: namely, that Missouri's Barton.was the one who married "Nelly" Thompson. Many people think so. The church records of St. Mary of the Barrens calls Barton the son of Luke Mattingly and "Nelly" Cambron. There has been some speculation that Luke's wife was originally a Cambron and married a Thompson prior to marrying Luke. It occurs to me this evening that simpler explanations are possible, that do not require another completely undocumented wedding: 1. The document in question speaks of Barton marrying an Elizabeth Cambron daughter of an undecipherably-named Cambron, has a sponsor named Cambron and has the word Cambron flagged in the margin along with Mattingly. I think the priest easily could have mistakenly put a fith "Cambron" where he should have said "Thompson." 2. Unlike the other records in the Barrens book, this particular record is dated only with a year -- no month and day -- which leads me to believe it was put there sometime after the event and was done from memory -- a memory which had not retained the month and day -- and possibly not retained Barton's mother's correct name. Supporting this thought is the fact that the record has the name of only one parents of the bride, unlke other records in the book which name both parents of the bride. I rest my case. _______________________________________________. May all of you have a blessed Holy Week. Fr. Blaine Just for the record, the Barrens book has the name Cambron misspelled Cambern all five times. ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    04/05/2004 04:25:49
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Boswell
    2. In a message dated 4/4/2004 10:59:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ldmorales6838@sbcglobal.net writes: > Does anyone have the parents of Dykeander Boswell who married John Baptist > Mattingly VA 1781? If not, has anyone checked for a marriage bond? Besides Msgr HEM, Mattingly Family in Early America, I know of very few sources of info regarding these two. Msgr used DAR record of Margaret Spinks and DAR File 420568 are the primary sources. I found a couple of tidbits from British Mercantile Claims circa 1780 that John B. died 20 years ago and his widow was found living in Dumfries, Va. His son, John Baptist was the one with Rev War Service and received a Bounty Land Warrant 5346 in 1783. His widow resided with his son in law Samuel Fisher in 1846 in Occoquan, VA. I sort of doubt that Spinks had any documentation for John B.'s birthdate of 1759. There was also a James Mattingly from the same area of Virginia who served in the Rev War and was pensioned for his service. Charley

    04/05/2004 02:39:03
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Boswell
    2. Laurie
    3. There was another Mattingly (MATENLY), Charles, who married Elizabeth Boswell 1794 Washington Co., VA. He and family transitioned to Matney through Richland, Illinois, into Kansas. Laurie Morales CharleyMoore@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 4/4/2004 10:59:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ldmorales6838@sbcglobal.net writes: > Does anyone have the parents of Dykeander Boswell who married John Baptist > Mattingly VA 1781? If not, has anyone checked for a marriage bond? Besides Msgr HEM, Mattingly Family in Early America, I know of very few sources of info regarding these two. Msgr used DAR record of Margaret Spinks and DAR File 420568 are the primary sources. I found a couple of tidbits from British Mercantile Claims circa 1780 that John B. died 20 years ago and his widow was found living in Dumfries, Va. His son, John Baptist was the one with Rev War Service and received a Bounty Land Warrant 5346 in 1783. His widow resided with his son in law Samuel Fisher in 1846 in Occoquan, VA. I sort of doubt that Spinks had any documentation for John B.'s birthdate of 1759. There was also a James Mattingly from the same area of Virginia who served in the Rev War and was pensioned for his service. Charley ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    04/05/2004 01:13:30
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    04/05/2004 05:25:58
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Blaine Burkey
    3. I had really not considered the 1810 census in my letter of 29 April 2004. However The Barton Mattingly who married successively Mary and Elizabeth Cambron died 30 July 1833 at the age of 57. That means he was born about 1776. That means he would be about 34 at the time of the 1810 census, which would make him the second of the two Bartons that Charley finds in the 1810 census, not the first. That records speaks of ======Barton Mattingly, 26 to 45; 3 daus 10-15, and wife 26-45. The wife of the 1810 census wife was Mary Cambron to whom Barton was married from 1804 to 1816 (or later). Barton and Mary had three girls according to the 12 pages of notes I sent several of you. These girls were born 1805, 1807 and 1816. There must have been a fourth daughter however who died in infancy, as the third daughter on the notes was not yet born in 1810. The ages of the daughters, all listed as 10-15, is a concern, but not a very big one to my mind, as the census records are some of the worst places to find ages. I had one ancestress who was the same age on three successive censuses. Many of these families could not read nor write and had no sure way of keeping track how old anyone was. ________________________________________________________ The first of the two Bartons in the 1810 censs was too young to be the Barton of Perry County, Missouri, as he was not yet 26 in 1810. ======Barton Mattingly, age 16-25; 3 sons, under 10; and a wife 16-25. Charley thinks the other Barton was Leonard Barton Mattingly, born in 1784 -- thus making him 25 or 26 -- in 1810. I hope that all of you will have a Blessed Holy Week and a Happy Easter, events which were very dear to the heart of all these people we've been talking about. Peace and All Good! fr. Blaine

    04/04/2004 04:27:18
    1. Boswell
    2. Laurie
    3. Does anyone have the parents of Dykeander Boswell who married John Baptist Mattingly VA 1781? If not, has anyone checked for a marriage bond? Laurie Morales

    04/04/2004 01:59:18
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Judith, etal I wonder if there are either Real Estate or Personal Property Tax Lists available for Perry County in the early 20's. In many states, the Tax Lists shows the number of Tithable Males over 16 in a family. No mention of the Ladies, except those who were head of house. Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Charley, there doesn't seem to be a 1820 Missouri Census online that I can > find. Judith >

    04/04/2004 08:40:48
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. In a message dated 4/3/2004 7:59:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ldmorales6838@sbcglobal.net writes: > Ancestry calls the MO 1820 census lost, along with others. > > Laurie Morales > > Judith Burger <bburger1-2@comcast.net> wrote: > Charley, there doesn't seem to be a 1820 Missouri Census online that I can > find. Judith Judith, Laurie, et al Oops, my mistake. Missouri was not formed as a State until 1821, according to Everton publishers in Handy Book for Genealogists. The first Census was taken in 1830. Perry County was formed in 1820 from St Genevieve that was formed as a District in 1812. Apparently no other counties were broken off from Perry County; and Everton does not list any records kept by the County Clerk in the 7th Edition I have, that is now about 20 years old. There is likely an 8th Ed, 9th Ed, and possibly 10th Ed avialable somewhere Charley.

    04/04/2004 08:35:08
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Judith Burger
    3. Charley, there doesn't seem to be a 1820 Missouri Census online that I can find. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly > In a message dated 3/29/2004 10:35:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > blaineb@slu.edu writes: > > According to the 1810 Census of Washington County, we find two Barton's. > The first appears to be the one under discussion: > > Barton Mattingly, age 16-25; 3 sons, under 10; and a wife 16-25. > It seems that the Missouri records would indicate 3 daughters by 1816. And, > it would not seem proper to assume all 3 sons died and he had 3 more daus by > 1816. > > Does anyone have the 1820 Missouri Census records???? > > The second Barton in Washington County in 1810 seems to show dates different > than what I have for him. > > Barton Mattingly, 26 to 45; 3 daus 10-15, and wife 26-45. > > > This Barton Mattingly married-(1) MARY CAMBRON (presumably in 1805 or > > earlier) > > > I guess Census records have been wrong before, but usually not that far off. > > Charley > > > and by her had three daughters: Ann (b. 1805), Agnes (1807-46) and Mary > > (b 1816). > > > > Mary, the mother, died sometime after her daughter Mary's birth in > > 1816. > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    04/03/2004 10:10:49
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. In a message dated 3/29/2004 10:35:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, blaineb@slu.edu writes: According to the 1810 Census of Washington County, we find two Barton's. The first appears to be the one under discussion: Barton Mattingly, age 16-25; 3 sons, under 10; and a wife 16-25. It seems that the Missouri records would indicate 3 daughters by 1816. And, it would not seem proper to assume all 3 sons died and he had 3 more daus by 1816. Does anyone have the 1820 Missouri Census records???? The second Barton in Washington County in 1810 seems to show dates different than what I have for him. Barton Mattingly, 26 to 45; 3 daus 10-15, and wife 26-45. > This Barton Mattingly married-(1) MARY CAMBRON (presumably in 1805 or > earlier) > I guess Census records have been wrong before, but usually not that far off. Charley > and by her had three daughters: Ann (b. 1805), Agnes (1807-46) and Mary > (b 1816). > > Mary, the mother, died sometime after her daughter Mary's birth in > 1816.

    04/03/2004 09:11:46
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Laurie
    3. Ancestry calls the MO 1820 census lost, along with others. Laurie Morales Judith Burger <bburger1-2@comcast.net> wrote: Charley, there doesn't seem to be a 1820 Missouri Census online that I can find. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly > In a message dated 3/29/2004 10:35:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, > blaineb@slu.edu writes: > > According to the 1810 Census of Washington County, we find two Barton's. > The first appears to be the one under discussion: > > Barton Mattingly, age 16-25; 3 sons, under 10; and a wife 16-25. > It seems that the Missouri records would indicate 3 daughters by 1816. And, > it would not seem proper to assume all 3 sons died and he had 3 more daus by > 1816. > > Does anyone have the 1820 Missouri Census records???? > > The second Barton in Washington County in 1810 seems to show dates different > than what I have for him. > > Barton Mattingly, 26 to 45; 3 daus 10-15, and wife 26-45. > > > This Barton Mattingly married-(1) MARY CAMBRON (presumably in 1805 or > > earlier) > > > I guess Census records have been wrong before, but usually not that far off. > > Charley > > > and by her had three daughters: Ann (b. 1805), Agnes (1807-46) and Mary > > (b 1816). > > > > Mary, the mother, died sometime after her daughter Mary's birth in > > 1816. > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    04/03/2004 08:59:05
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. William R Mattingly
    3. Father Burkey, thank you for all the fine work and results you're having. Haven't finished reading all you wrote yet but it struck me that the date of marriage for Barton Mattingly and Anna Smith I have was as abt. August 12, 1806 (that's the date Father Nerinckx recorded the marriage). Barton's second marriage was recorded 11-19-1944. I am certainly enjoying this vast exchange of information.

    03/30/2004 09:49:43
    1. [MATTINGLY] Mattingly, Thomas L.
    2. Folks, You may have read that we were looking for Thomas L. Mattingly who served in the war in Normandy, so that someone could return a personal item to him or his immediate family. Can anyone identify this person? FROM SSDI THOMAS L MATTINGLY 4 Apr 1920 8 Jan 1993 El Paso, El Paso, TX IN (Before 1951 ) 309-16-2350 Is this him? Shirley

    03/29/2004 06:08:22
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Blaine Burkey
    3. My apologies to Charley!! The date 16 Aug. 1804 that I just referred to was in a letter quoted by Charley. Charley himself dates Leonard Barton's marriage as 12 Aug. 1806 -- well after Fr. Nerinckx had arrived. ________ Also I spoke of a baptismal record in Missouri -- I should have said a marriage record. ________ Peace and All Good! Fr.Blaine

    03/29/2004 03:05:34
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Blaine Burkey
    3. Judith, Charley, Laurie, Shirley, William, et alii, _____________________________________________________________ At this point, the following is perfectly clear to me: A man named LUKE MATTINGLY [origin still not really certain] was [presumably] married to NELLY [presumably =Eleanor] CAMBRON (probably in early 1776 or earlier). They were the parents of BARTON MATTINGLY, born in about 1776. _____________________________________________________________ This Barton Mattingly married-(1) MARY CAMBRON (presumably in 1805 or earlier) and by her had three daughters: Ann (b. 1805), Agnes (1807-46) and Mary (b 1816). Mary, the mother, died sometime after her daughter Mary's birth in 1816. Judith spoke of not seeing the forest for the trees, and indeed it was true. We knew of Barton's first wife Mary from the Maria of the Latin baptismal record at Barrens. In English her given name was Mary, but a very common nickname for Mary in those days was "Polly." Mary's first daughter was born in 1805, and a "POLLY" CAMBRON was married to a Barton Mattingly in Washington Co., KY, in the presence of Fr. Stephen Theodore Badin, on 8 Aug. 1804. /// I was struck by the concidence that they were married just two days after another Barton (Leonard Barton according to Charlie) married Anna Smith. in the presence of Fr. Charles Nerinckx, somewhere in the same county. I presume you all know that both of the priests mentioned were very important characters in American Catholic church history. There is a serious problem with this date, however, [which date I'm taking from Charley's note earlier this evening]. And that is, according to both the old and new Catholic Encylopedias, that Fr. Nerinckx did not arrive in Kentucky until July of 1805. /// _____________________________________________________________ Barton married-(2) Elizabeth Cambron (b. ca. 1794 of parentage still not clear) in Perry County IN on 1 Jan. 1817 in a civil ceremony <Indiana Marriages through 1850> -- probably because there was no priest available. By Elizabeth, Barton had four sons and two daughters: Benedict Joseph (1821-63), John (1824-35), James Austin (1826-1909), James Matthew (1828-81), Elizabeth Joanna (b. 1830), Barbara Ann (b. 1832). Barton and Elizbeth were at the Barrens in Missouri by 1822. Benedict Joseph was baptized at the Barrens on 9 July 1822. His father was listed as Bernard, and the godmother is Sarah Mattingly. Benedict's half sister, Ann -- by then 17 -- was baptized on 23 Sept of the same year, and Barton is again referred to as Bernard and the godmother is E<...> Cambron. The same year that Barton and Elizabeth's son John was born -- i.e. 1824 (month and day unknown) -- Barton and Elizabeth had their marriage "validated" in the eyes of the church and their children declared legitimate. This was at the parish of the Assumption of Mary at the Barrens (later known as Perryville, Perry Co., MO). The official witnesses were Fr. John Mary Odin, C.M., and Thomas Layton & Benedict Cambron. Barton died 30 July 1833 at the age of 57. His widow married-(2) Louis Schmaltz on 10 Feb. 1835 and died 22 Feb. 1864 at the age of 70. _____________________________________________________________ Now we move into speculation: A man named Luke Mattingly married ELEANOR THOMPSON in St. Mary's County, MD,in the presence of Fr. James Walton, S.J., on 11 Feb. 1772 -- just four years before Missouri Barton's birth. It is very conceivable -- but still pure speculation -- that perhaps Eleanor Thompson's full name was Eleanor Cambron Thompson. If so, this Luke was the Luke mentioned above. ///Occam's razor would seem to have some application here: entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily, which requires that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex./// _____________________________________________________________ There is also some thought that the Jeremiah and Joseph Mattinglys found in the Barrens church records the same year as Barton and Elizabeth's convalidation are brothers to Barton. But this remains to be proven. _____________________________________________________________ The current general thought seems to be that the Luke who married Nelly Thompson was the Luke who was the grandson of Caesar Mattingly by way of the latter's son John. I'm not sure yet what this is based on. If so, however, he was my sextuply great uncle. _____________________________________________________________ Fr. Blaine Burkey, O.F.M.Cap.

    03/29/2004 02:33:53
    1. Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Paul: Nearly 2 years ago after the Kentucky-Maryland Reunion, there was a lot of discussion regarding the early, 1783, residents of Washington County, MD. There, at the same time, were quite a few Mattinglys that included Richard, Sr., Richard Jr., Joseph, Barnet, Joseph, and Barton, plus the HIntons. Richard, Jr and Joseph both married Hinton daughters: Eleanor and Hessina, so some of us decided that we could make a family with Richard, Sr the father and Richard, Jr.; Barnet, Joseph, and Barnet the children. And, through it all, I don't believe that anyone mentioned that Msgr HEM's book Mattingly Family in Early America was the first one to point out this group of Mattinglys on the same county tax roll. This might give you something to work on. Richard JRs son, John, married Sarah Wheatley daughter of Leonard Wheatly - probably too remote to have a bearing. Charley matt374@bellsouth.net writes: > I have seen the reference to Joseph and Hessina Hinton-Mattingly's > oldest son as Leonard Barton Mattingly. Can someone tell me where this > came from. I have only that he was Barton Mattingly. If his full name > was Leonard Barton this might give me more clues to who his grandparents > were.

    03/29/2004 01:38:13
    1. RE: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly
    2. Paul Mattingly
    3. I have seen the reference to Joseph and Hessina Hinton-Mattingly's oldest son as Leonard Barton Mattingly. Can someone tell me where this came from. I have only that he was Barton Mattingly. If his full name was Leonard Barton this might give me more clues to who his grandparents were. Paul Mattingly -----Original Message----- From: CharleyMoore@cs.com [mailto:CharleyMoore@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:16 PM To: MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly Shirley, etal Perry County Indiana is just across the Ohio River from Breckenridge Co, KY> see further notes below each para. Charley PS. I do not intend to contradict, only to point out what I have on the family Plattshirl@aol.com writes: > From: Plattshirl@aol.com > > > I've read the last several posts, and have this to offer, from the Indiana > State Library, Genealogy Division, Indiana Marriages through 1850: Barton > MATINGLY, md to Elizabeth Cambron, 01/01/1817 Perry Co., Indiana. > From Laurie Morales I do not remember the exact language, however, didn't the Missouri data from Fr Burkey indicate that Barton had a Church wedding in Missouri for his second wife? > Folks, > Can someone please clarify for me because now I am confused. Laurie has > found this marriage above, which presumably is for the Bartholomew/Barton > Mattingly who died in Perry Co, MO, so can someone please tell me who this > Barton is: Barton Mattingly m. Polly Cambron 8 Aug 1804 > by Rev. Stephen Theodore Badin in Washington Co, KY Bk 1- pg 57 Washington > County, KY Marriages. From the book "Washington County, Kentucky Marriages > 1792-1878" by Margaret Clark Kington, page 114. > I believe this is the Barton, son of Luke, who is still on the Wash Co > Census in 1810 with three children by his first wife. > > Here is another Barton... > > Barton Mattingly m. Anna Smith 6 Aug 1804 > by the Rev Charles Nerinsky Book 1 pg 71 Washington County, KY Marriages. > From the book "Washington County, Kentucky Marriages 1792-1878" by Margaret > Clark Kington, page 114. This is said to be Leonard Barton Mattingly b. > 1784 > son of Joseph F. Mattingly and Hessina A. Hinton; he married 2) Herodia Rose > Jones 19 Nov 1845. He also had a son, Leonard Barton Mattingly, Jr. b. > 1829, > who married Elizabeth Greenwell. > I have Leonard Barton Mattingly born 6 Jan 1784 as marrying Anna Smith on on 12 Aug 1806 Wash Co. kY, by Father Nerinx and 2d to Rose Ann Fields in 1844. Charley > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubsc ribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubsc ribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    03/29/2004 11:48:18