Judith We are talking about the same Charles throughout the following articles. Son of Thomas Mattingly II and his second wife, Elizabeth. A few years after Thomas II died in 1714, Elizabeth {__?__] Mattingly married Robert Clarke, the son of Thomas Clarke, as his second wife and Mother of his son, Benjamin. So Charles is present at proceedings relating to his Mother and Brothers. I wonder who the other two chldren were???? Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Charley, I have found a few more records with the name Charles Mattingly on > them. One seems to indicate that there may have been two in St. Mary's > County in 1726. Could this be father and son or just a typo?? Who knows. > Judith > > MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1724-1731, Libers 6-10, Skinner, p. > 52, FTMCD 206 > Thomas Melton 7.404 A SM L94.13.10 L24.19.10 July 5 1726 > Received from: John Mattingly, John Pery, CHARLES MATTINGLY, Edword Furr, > Thomas Johnson, William Prichett, Samuell Maddox, Thomas Green, John > Shingly, Mary Prichett, John Suttell, Robert Long, CHARLES MATTINGLY, > Margarett Madox,Robert Macklacklan, Mr. Henry Wharton. > Payments to: Capt. Richard Hopewell, Edmund Farr, George Buck, Matthew > Herbert, Thomas Nichols, John Burroughs, Vincent Taylor, Mr. Samuell > Williamson, Thomas Scott. > Executrix (surviving): Mary Walker, wife of Thomas Walker. > NOTE: Appears to be two Charles Mattinglys listed. > ========================================= > MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1724-1731, Libers 6-10, Skinner, > p.107, FTMCD 206 > Jesse Doyne 9.251 A CH L79.7.8 L49.9.2 Jan 18 1728 > Received from: CHARLES MATTINGLEY, John Massey, george Allen, John > Tinib(?), Richard Robey. > Payments to: Dr. Brown, Ignatius Doyne, Thomas Matthews, John Smith, Dr. > Daniel Jenifer, James Glascock, Walter Winter, Charles Adams, Mary > Millstead, John Terrill, Elisabeth Ozborn, Edward Millstead, Thomas > Osborn, John Howard, Esq., Thomas Gardiner, John Eberneathey, John Speake, > Joshua Doyne, Thomas Millstead. > Executor: Robert Doyne. > NOTE: Charles County, Maryland > ========================================= > MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS,1733-1738, Skinner, p. 18 FTMCD 206 > John Peney 19.50 SM L13.10.11 Jul 2 1734 Aug 7 1734 > Appraisers: John Mattenley, Richard Millard. > Creditors: John Stewart, CHARLES MATTINGLY. > Next of kin: William More, minors. > Administratrix/Executrix: Cathrine Penny. > ========================================= > MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS,1733-1738, Skinner, p. 57 FTMCD 206 > Mrs. Elisabeth Clark 21.296 SM L40.0.0 Feb 25 1735 Apr 12 1736 > Appraisers: Thomas Spaulding (also Thomas Spalding), Thomas Mattingley > (the signature is written CHARLES MATTINGLEY). > Next of kin: William Road, Ellinor Clark. > Administrator/Executor: Charles Hogdkins. > ============================= > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> > To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Luke & Barton Mattingly > > > > Judith, et al > > > > We probably all have little to add to the family below, listed for > Charles. > > I have his first named son, William marrying a Mary Turner. Were there > estate > > papers for Mary in 1799?? I have also tried to attach a Henry who married > > Mary Knott, as another son. I also believe that Charles married a Jamison > > based on the fact that Ann Jamison made her will in 1724 and left 2 ewes > to > > Charles Mattingly. And, I have no further knowledge of his son Luke. > > > > Charley > > > > > > 2@comcast.net writes: > > > > > Luke son of Charles son of Thomas Mattingly, II > > > > > > THE MATTINGLY FAMILY IN EARLY AMERICA, Herman E. Mattingly, 1975, Self > > > Published, 1975, Columbus, Ohio, p. 50 > > > "Charles Mattingly <snip> Paul H. Mattingly, Ph.D., Leonia, New, Jersey, > > > Charles Mattingly and gives children as William, Leonard, Luke, George > and two > > > others unnamed." > > > NOTE: Charles Mattingly was the son of Thomas Mattingly II and was > named in > > > his will of 1714: "...my estate be equally divided into six equal > parts, > > > five of wch to my five Children to say Charles William Luke Ignatius and > Ann, & > > > the sixth to my beloved wife Elizabeth Mattingly..") > > >

J, Very interesting. :) RM P.S. Went to the Vatican Spring Break but didn't see your pope. Got thrown out of St. Peter's. How many people can say THAT? -----Original Message----- From: Judith Burger [mailto:bburger1-2@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:13 PM To: MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MATTINGLY] Mary Hayden wife of Leonard Mattingly, Sr. Hello List! I'm still picking at 'ole Luke Mattingly, father of Barton of Perry County, Missouri fame, and in the process of inquiry was gifted with this abstract of the distribution account of George Hayden the father of Mary Hayden who m. Leonard Mattingly, Sr. As you see the ages of his children are listed and Mary is 6 years old in 1755, and that makes her birth date 1749. Therefore she would have been too young at age 11 in 1760 to be married and bear the first 2 children we have listed for Leonard Mattingly Sr. SO, did Leonard Sr. have a previous wife before Mary Hayden, or are the first two children we have listed for him, not his??? I have Jane b. c 1760 and John c 1762. She, Mary Hayden, would have been 17 years old in 1766 for Leonard Mattingly Jr.. That's possible. Just a little food for thought. Judith 8/7/1755: Admin. accts. of George Hayden, SMC. Sureties: Robert Thompson, Clement Hayden. Received from: Vincent Taylor, Richard Hayden, Sebastian Thompson, James Howard. Payments to: Meverill Lock, James Mills, Philip Barton Key, William Jordan, A. Barnes, Philip Key, James Thompson, John Jordan. Distribution to: Accountant, 1/3. Residue to (orphans): William Hayden (age 13); Basil Hayden (age 12); Charles Hayden (age 8); George Hayden (age 7); Mary Hayden (age 6); Francis Hayden (age 4). Admx.: Charity Morgan, wife of William Morgan. (Admin. accts. of the Prerogative Court of Maryland, Libers, 37-45, 1754-1760 by V. L. Skinner, Jr.). NOTE: This record is not on CD #206. Courtesy Linda Davis Reno 4/12/2004 ================================================================ NOTE: Charity (Unknown) Morgan was the widow of George Hayden. She remarried to William Morgan. Her will: Will of Charity Morgan, SMC, 9/15/1791-10/3/1791. Son: Ignatius Morgan, my feather bed and furniture; one pair of blankets; one pair of sheets; one quilt; a horse named Stretcher; a mare named Jewel; and the hogs he now has in his possession. Son: Wilfred Morgan, one cow and yearling and a looking glass. Son: Raphael Morgan, the feather bed he has in his possession; hogs; and one case. Son: George Hayden, one cow and calf; one bed and furniture for the use of James Hayden, likewise one iron pot, hooks and rack for the use of his son, William Hayden. Daughter: Frances Hayden, one bed and furniture; a horse named Snip; my side saddle and bridle; one cow and yearling; and three hogs now in the pen. Son: James Morgan, two steers about five years old. Children: William, Ignatius, Raphael and Joseph Morgan and Frances Hayden, the remainder of my goods and chattles, equally divided. Exec: Son, George Hayden. Wit: Joseph Walker, Jr. and Ann Field. Courtesy Linda Davis Reno 4/12/2004 ====================================================================== SPECULATION AT THIS POINT: George Hayden's first wife MAY have been Ann Mattingly. MAY HAVE BEEN ! Still searching ! JB ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubsc ribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubsc ribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello List! I'm still picking at 'ole Luke Mattingly, father of Barton of Perry County, Missouri fame, and in the process of inquiry was gifted with this abstract of the distribution account of George Hayden the father of Mary Hayden who m. Leonard Mattingly, Sr. As you see the ages of his children are listed and Mary is 6 years old in 1755, and that makes her birth date 1749. Therefore she would have been too young at age 11 in 1760 to be married and bear the first 2 children we have listed for Leonard Mattingly Sr. SO, did Leonard Sr. have a previous wife before Mary Hayden, or are the first two children we have listed for him, not his??? I have Jane b. c 1760 and John c 1762. She, Mary Hayden, would have been 17 years old in 1766 for Leonard Mattingly Jr.. That's possible. Just a little food for thought. Judith 8/7/1755: Admin. accts. of George Hayden, SMC. Sureties: Robert Thompson, Clement Hayden. Received from: Vincent Taylor, Richard Hayden, Sebastian Thompson, James Howard. Payments to: Meverill Lock, James Mills, Philip Barton Key, William Jordan, A. Barnes, Philip Key, James Thompson, John Jordan. Distribution to: Accountant, 1/3. Residue to (orphans): William Hayden (age 13); Basil Hayden (age 12); Charles Hayden (age 8); George Hayden (age 7); Mary Hayden (age 6); Francis Hayden (age 4). Admx.: Charity Morgan, wife of William Morgan. (Admin. accts. of the Prerogative Court of Maryland, Libers, 37-45, 1754-1760 by V. L. Skinner, Jr.). NOTE: This record is not on CD #206. Courtesy Linda Davis Reno 4/12/2004 ================================================================ NOTE: Charity (Unknown) Morgan was the widow of George Hayden. She remarried to William Morgan. Her will: Will of Charity Morgan, SMC, 9/15/1791-10/3/1791. Son: Ignatius Morgan, my feather bed and furniture; one pair of blankets; one pair of sheets; one quilt; a horse named Stretcher; a mare named Jewel; and the hogs he now has in his possession. Son: Wilfred Morgan, one cow and yearling and a looking glass. Son: Raphael Morgan, the feather bed he has in his possession; hogs; and one case. Son: George Hayden, one cow and calf; one bed and furniture for the use of James Hayden, likewise one iron pot, hooks and rack for the use of his son, William Hayden. Daughter: Frances Hayden, one bed and furniture; a horse named Snip; my side saddle and bridle; one cow and yearling; and three hogs now in the pen. Son: James Morgan, two steers about five years old. Children: William, Ignatius, Raphael and Joseph Morgan and Frances Hayden, the remainder of my goods and chattles, equally divided. Exec: Son, George Hayden. Wit: Joseph Walker, Jr. and Ann Field. Courtesy Linda Davis Reno 4/12/2004 ====================================================================== SPECULATION AT THIS POINT: George Hayden's first wife MAY have been Ann Mattingly. MAY HAVE BEEN ! Still searching ! JB

Thank you, Brenda, for the lovely Easter card. I hope you had a beautiful Easter, and Happy Easter to all the Mattinglys and their families. Gail Wess

For some reason I can't seem to find the reference again but I believe it was one of the early census records from Maryland, 1790 I think. I don't know about the genes. On my Mattingly side, my grandfather died at only 47 and grandma at 50. Dad was 71 when he passed away.

Brenda Thank you so much for the card. It brigtened my day. We got up early, went to 8:30 Mass; got home by 9 and had breakfast, and started work on Dinner for 8 at home. We have 1 son, 1 dau & hubby, 1 gddau & friend, and 1 grgdson. Have a happy Easter and pray for piece and our servicemen and their families. Kitty's mother was a Mattingly and her father a Clark, down to KY from MD in late 1700's. Kitty and Charley mijeepldy@aol.com writes: > http://www.pickup.aol.egreetings.com/view.pd?i=18854248&m=1825&rr=y& > source=aole999

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Mason County, Kentucky had an Elijah Mattingly, born about 1825 who I've been unable to identify. The 1850 census of Mason County finds him as Elija Mattingly aged 25 and in the home of Oliver P. Clark 34 and his wife Amanda age 23. The 1860 census of Mason County shows him as Elijah Mattingly 36 with wife Nancy 26 and children Barbara 5 and Charles 4. I presume Elijah was from the line of John Townley Mattingly. Anyone know who he was connected too?

William, you must have come from good genes. Hopefully you can still do what your grandfather did at the age of 85. Some time ago you mentioned a document including the words--"Luke, the son of John". Do you remember from where that information came? To All: HAPPY EASTER HOLIDAY.....and to all, like me....still waiting to grow up; may the Easter bunny fill your baskets. Loretta

Laurie, etal There were quite a few Mattinglys in Virginia in the late 1700's and early 1800's. John H. Gwathmey's Historic Register of Virginians in the Revolution lists: James Mattinearly in Capt Smiths Co, Augusta County John Mattily [Mattingly] Corporal, 7 Cont. Line. James Mattingly, Capt Smiths Co, Augusta County [same as first one above?[ James Mattingly in Index of Revolutionary Records John Mattingly, Inf, name on register, no bounty land warrant. John Mattingly, Prince William County, pensioned James Mattingly, Fairfax County, pensioned Thomas Mattingly, Corporal, 7 Continental Line, 11 & 15 C. L. Thomas Mattinley [Mattenly, Joseph' 9 Continental Line A Joseph Mattingly, b1822 was reported in Ballston, VA [Arlington Couonty] m'd Mary Donaldson children were, Charles b 1847; Joseph b 1850; Margaret b 1851; Robert b 1852; and Albert b 1850. Robert, born 1852 married 20 Oct 1852 in DC and had Geneva; Robert Jr.b 1889; Clingon b 1892; and Marguerite. The 1790 Census for Virginia, taken from Tax Lists of the 1780's listed: Richard Mattaney pg 98 Pittsylvania County, VA, 4 whites James Mattenley pg 17, Fairfax County, 8 whites James Mattingly, pg 7, Fairfax County, 3 whites John Mattenly pg 17 Fairfax County, 3 whites John Mattingley, pg 86, Prince William County I am interested in all the early Mattinglys, in or out of MD, KY, MO. Charley ldmorales6838@sbcglobal.net writes: > There was another Mattingly (MATENLY), Charles, who married Elizabeth > Boswell 1794 Washington Co., VA. He and family transitioned to Matney through > Richland, Illinois, into Kansas. > > Laurie Morales >

With only the bits and pieces that we have, I have to agree that Luke could have been the son of John and Grace. We believe that John died in 1744 at about age 54 so he was certainly young enough to still be producing off-spring. What we don't know is the approximate age of Luke. If he was born between 1835 and 1844 then he would also have been young enough to be moving around (even fathering children); somewhere between the ages of 56 and 65 in 1800. We also know that people generally did not live as long back then as they do today, but I believe we can say without a doubt, that they were generally in much better physical condition and likely lived more active lives into their later years than most of us today. My mother's dad lived to be 85 and the month he died he was still chopping his own firewood and hauling it. At age 75, following my grandmother's death, he sold his home, bought an old truck and camper and simply traveled around the country for many years. He did odd jobs to earn enough money to keep his sightseeing tour going. I know people under age 50 that can't do the labor he did at 85. I also agree that there is not enough proof at this time to make the declaration.

Judith, you may be right. John and Grace Mattingly could very well be this Luke's parents. I am looking for more proof. __________________________________________________________________________________ Fr. Burkey that is a great idea about contacting Thompson researchers. Of course Eleanor has descendants as well as Luke. I sure hope you can solve this puzzle. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Charley, Luke assigned his Spanish Land Grant to Clement Hayden, another one of my ancestors: Clement Hayden/Luke Mattingly---640 Acres, on Bois Brule Creek, just north of Brewer, MO. "In 1806 Joseph Tucker 'swore' claimant arrived in fall of 1803, went back and returned with his family in beginning of 1804, then moved onto same tract of land and raised a crop and had inhabited & cultivated to this day, and was prior to 20 Dec 1803 actually cultivated & inhabited by one Luke Matenly, and the said Luke did in Jan 1804 acknowledge to witness that he had sold his improvement right to said claimant, Hayden, 1000 arpens granted." There are 3 entries on the 1828 Perry Co, MO Tax List that shows Luke Mattingly being the original claimant to land now taxed to George Fenwick, James Manning and William Tucker--640 acres total. William Mattingly is taxed on 640 acres. Barton & Jeremiah Mattingly were each taxed only on horses and cattle. Evidently they owned no land at that time. Loretta

Judith, Loretta, etal About the only thing that concerns me is the age of Luke. I have John and Grace Brewer with 7 children with John dying in 1744 and Grace remarrying a Johnson. I have the order of birth as John Baptist bc1715; Richard, bc 1720; Ignatius bc1722; Luke bc 1724; Joseph bc 1726; Elizabeth bc 1727 M'd Greenock & died c1750; and Susanna bc 1729. Now, I seem to have a memory of Grace and Johnson, in their handling of John's estate; having guardians appointed for some who were not of age?? Is that right?? I believe that the dates of John Baptist, the oldest child, is set at 1715 and died 1759. The other dates are guestimates. That would make Luke 80 years old when he married a second or third wife; however, he would also be a little old to be traipsing off to Missouri to Patent Land before returning sometime to in the early 1800's to turn the patent over to his son, Barton. How does this compare with what you all have? Charley bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > Loretta, it looks like you have it figured out. This scenario makes more > sense than any I've dreamed up so far. I have that the Luke Mattingly who > married Eleanor Thompson in 1772, SMCM was the son of John son of Cezar, son > of Thomas I. Is that the way you have him pegged? Judith Burger > > MARYLAND PROBATE RECORDS, PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, p. 25, FTM > CD 206 > John Mattenly 21.366 A SM L225.19.8 L255.0. 10 > Jun 21 1745 > Sureties: John Mattenly, George Haden > Received from: John Poore. > Payments to: Ann Haden, Matthew Harbert, Mr. Philip Key, John Chesher, > Edward Mattenly, James Thompson. > Distribution to: accountant (1/3). Residue to (orphans): John Mattenly, > Ignatius Mattenly, Richard Mattenly, Luke Mattenley, Joseph Mattenley, > Elizabeth Mattenley, Susanna Mattenley. > Administratrix: Grace Johnson, wife of Peter Johnson > ****************************************************************************

Charley, it looks like Luke was young enough to need a guardian in 1748 per this record. Judith **************************************************************************** ****************** MARYLAND PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, Libers 21-28, V. L. Skinner, p. 116 Peter Johnson 25.11 A SM L125.14.3 L183.5.9 December 20, 1748 A second inventory is cited in the amount of L0.12.6 Sureties: Clement Hayden, Richard Hayden Received from: (Long List) Payments to: Mr. Philip Key, Capt. Gilbert Ireland, Mr. James Mills, William Bond, Grace Herbert, James Hayden, Mary Johnson, George Graves, James Thompson, Prisscilla Chesher, John Mattingley guardian to his brother, James Mattingley (due from estate of his father John Mattingley), Grace Johnson guardian to Luke Mattingly & Joseph Mattingly (orphans of John Mattingley). Administrator: George Hayden **************************************************************************** ****************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <CharleyMoore@cs.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton s/o Luke > Judith, Loretta, etal > > About the only thing that concerns me is the age of Luke. I have John and > Grace Brewer with 7 children with John dying in 1744 and Grace remarrying a > Johnson. I have the order of birth as John Baptist bc1715; Richard, bc 1720; > Ignatius bc1722; Luke bc 1724; Joseph bc 1726; Elizabeth bc 1727 M'd Greenock & > died c1750; and Susanna bc 1729. > > Now, I seem to have a memory of Grace and Johnson, in their handling of > John's estate; having guardians appointed for some who were not of age?? Is that > right?? > > I believe that the dates of John Baptist, the oldest child, is set at 1715 > and died 1759. The other dates are guestimates. That would make Luke 80 years > old when he married a second or third wife; however, he would also be a little > old to be traipsing off to Missouri to Patent Land before returning sometime > to in the early 1800's to turn the patent over to his son, Barton. > > How does this compare with what you all have? > > Charley > > bburger1-2@comcast.net writes: > > Loretta, it looks like you have it figured out. This scenario makes more > > sense than any I've dreamed up so far. I have that the Luke Mattingly who > > married Eleanor Thompson in 1772, SMCM was the son of John son of Cezar, son > > of Thomas I. Is that the way you have him pegged? Judith Burger > > > > MARYLAND PROBATE RECORDS, PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, p. 25, FTM > > CD 206 > > John Mattenly 21.366 A SM L225.19.8 L255.0. 10 > > Jun 21 1745 > > Sureties: John Mattenly, George Haden > > Received from: John Poore. > > Payments to: Ann Haden, Matthew Harbert, Mr. Philip Key, John Chesher, > > Edward Mattenly, James Thompson. > > Distribution to: accountant (1/3). Residue to (orphans): John Mattenly, > > Ignatius Mattenly, Richard Mattenly, Luke Mattenley, Joseph Mattenley, > > Elizabeth Mattenley, Susanna Mattenley. > > Administratrix: Grace Johnson, wife of Peter Johnson > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Researchers in the extensive Mattingly family have been interested in the Luke Mattingly who married Eleanor Thompson in St. Mary's County MD in 1772. It occurs to me that researchers in the Thompson family might have already learned much about the Eleanor Thompson who married Luke Mattingly in St. Mary's County MD in 1772. So I'm looking "outside the box" -- the Mattingly box -- Do any of you Thompson family researchers know anything more about Eleanor?

Charlie & all Here is a website that you can order Perry County, MO census' from: www.perryvillemissouri.com/perrycountyhistoricalsociety.htm The cost is listed on the site. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: CharleyMoore@cs.com [mailto:CharleyMoore@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:41 AM To: MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Barton Mattingly Judith, etal I wonder if there are either Real Estate or Personal Property Tax Lists available for Perry County in the early 20's. In many states, the Tax Lists shows the number of Tithable Males over 16 in a family. No mention of the Ladies, except those who were head of house.

Found this: Census of 1776 St. John's and Prince George's Parishes, "MARYLAND RECORDS, Colonial, Revolutionary, County, and Church", by Gaius Marcus Brumbaugh, MS., MD., Vol I, 1915, Reprinted by Genealogical Pub. Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1993. p. 79 "Clement Mattingly 28; 11: Frances 44: 20: 18: 15: 9: 1: 9M.........1(Male white over 16<50), 1(Male white under 16), 7 (Female white)" Interpretation of the above Census by Judith Burger Clement Mattingly 28, =b. abt 1748 Frances Mattingly 44= b. abt. 1732, (Could possibly be Clement's mother??) Female 20, = b. abt. 1756 (Could possibly be Clement's wife) Female 18, = b. abt. 1758 Female 15, = b. abt. 1761 Male 11, = b. abt. 1765 Female 9, = b. abt. 1767 Female 1, = b, abt. 1775 (Could possibly be Clement's child) Female 9m,= b. abt. 1776 (Could possibly be Clement's child) ___________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie" <ldmorales6838@sbcglobal.net> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: [MATTINGLY] Clement Mattingly Oath of Allegiance > Prince George Co., MD, Clement Mattingley took an oath of allegiance, to Hon. Fielder Bowie, 1778. From MD Rev. Patriots and Soldiers, Prince George's Co Rev. Patriots Listing. Others listed: > > Joseph Mattingley, enlisted 1776 > Philip Mattingley, enlisted 1778 > Thomas Mattingley, enlisted 1778 > > St. Mary's Co. MD, Clement Mattingly took an oath, to Hon. Jeremiah Jordan 1778. This source has an additional notation: "one Clement Mattingly died 2/19/1826". > > Others from source, Calvert and St. Mary's Co., MD Rev. Patriot, taking oaths: > > Francis Mattingly, 1778 > Ignatius Jr. 1778 > James Barton 1778 > Joseph 1778 > Luke Sr. 1778 > > Laurie > > William R Mattingly <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> wrote: > Anna's name shows up differently in a couple of places. I've seen her > reported as Anna Cam, as Anita Carr and as Anna Carr. The marriage took > place in Breckinridge County, Kentucky on 2-3-1817, as far as I have been > able to tell. I also carry Thomas as a son of Richard Mattingly and Eleanor > Hinton but Richard's will only mentions Thomas, not his wife so I guess the > facts are still waiting to be proved. While I have found no proof of who > the actual father of the Thomas that married Anna, I have observed that > Clement was not in Breckinridge and I presume his son was not as well. Like > Charley said though, Perry County is just across the Ohio River from > Breckinridge County and perhaps they were from there and simply married in > Breckinridge. > > I don't think I've seen a will for Clement. Does anyone have a copy so that > we might verify he even had a son named Thomas? > > One final note, I tend to think Clement Mattingly was counted on the 1783 > tax records of Washington County, Maryland. Other Mattingly's in the same > area that year were Richard Sr. and Jr., Joseph, and Barnet as well as the > family of Vachel Hinton. I don't have a clue as to Clement's ancestry but > believe him to have been from the line of Cezar because of his position in > Washington Co., Md. Again though, that's supposition. > > Not sure when Clement was born but he didn't appear on the rolls of the > Pledge of Allegiance in Washington County, Md. in 1778 with Richard, Joseph, > Barnet, and Henry. There was a Clement Mattingly who took the pledge in St. > Mary's though. If Clement was in Washington County in 1778 then perhaps he > was either too young or simply didn't take it, or his record hasn't > appeared. If he was from St. Mary's then a whole new ball of wax opens up. > > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscri be > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Loretta, it looks like you have it figured out. This scenario makes more sense than any I've dreamed up so far. I have that the Luke Mattingly who married Eleanor Thompson in 1772, SMCM was the son of John son of Cezar, son of Thomas I. Is that the way you have him pegged? Judith Burger MARYLAND PROBATE RECORDS, PREROGATIVE COURT ABSTRACTS, 1744-1750, p. 25, FTM CD 206 John Mattenly 21.366 A SM L225.19.8 L255.0. 10 Jun 21 1745 Sureties: John Mattenly, George Haden Received from: John Poore. Payments to: Ann Haden, Matthew Harbert, Mr. Philip Key, John Chesher, Edward Mattenly, James Thompson. Distribution to: accountant (1/3). Residue to (orphans): John Mattenly, Ignatius Mattenly, Richard Mattenly, Luke Mattenley, Joseph Mattenley, Elizabeth Mattenley, Susanna Mattenley. Administratrix: Grace Johnson, wife of Peter Johnson **************************************************************************** ****************** The Early Settlers of Maryland, Gust Skordas, 6th printing 2002, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD. p. 310 "Mattingly, Cezar Liber 8, Folio 88 Transported prior to 1665, Son of Thomas. =========================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo Signs" <geosigns@mlec.net> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: [MATTINGLY] Barton s/o Luke > I see there is a lot of discussion about Luke Mattingly & his son Barton, who are my 3rd & 4th great-grandfathers through Barton's son Benedict Joseph. > > My records show the following family information: > > 7 Aug 1804 - Luke Mattingly m. Betha (Elizabeth?)Cambron, a widow, in Washington Co., KY. Surety: John Flanagan made oath that the bride was over 21. > > Previously on 4 Apr 1796 - John Flanagan m. Eliza Mattingly (Luke's sister or relative?) Wit: Lenard & Ann Matingly; Washington Co., KY. > > I don't have proof on this, but it appears that Luke first married a Spalding who was Jeremiah's mother. He then married Eleanor "Nelly" Thompson in 1772. Son, Joseph was born in 1773 and Barton in 1776. > > 5 Oct 1804 - There was an obligation of an intended marriage between Barton Mattingly and Polly Cambron. Ignatius Cambron made oath that bride and groom were both over 21. It was signed by Ignatius Cambron and Barton Mattingly. 8 Oct 1804 - Barton Mattingly was married to Polly Cambron, by S.T. Badin, on Minister's return. > > 1 Jan 1819 - Barton Mattingly m. Elizabeth Cambron in Tell City, Perry Co., IN. in a civil ceremony. After arriving in Perry Co., MO., Barton and Elizabeth were married in a religious ceremony in the Catholic Church. Wit: Benedict (Benjamin?)Cambron and Thomas Layton. Possibly the reason Nelly Cambron was listed as Barton's mother in the recording of the church ceremony is because his biological mother was Nelly while his step-mother was a Cambron. I can see how someone, who did not know the family well, could have got the names confused; especially if the information was not recorded immediately. Barton's name was Bartholomew and Polly's was Mary. The name Cambron has been spelled every-which-a-way. > > As far as Elizabeth's father's name appearing to be Zoë or Soe Cambron, O'Rourke wasn't sure. Could it be Thos.? I have seen the entry and I cannot be sure. However, when Elizabeth married again after Barton's death, her parents were listed as Thomas Cambron and Anna Ausban (a variation of Osborn?). > > I welcome any corrections and additions to the above. Who was the Eliza Mattingly that married John Flanagan? > > Loretta > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Prince George Co., MD, Clement Mattingley took an oath of allegiance, to Hon. Fielder Bowie, 1778. From MD Rev. Patriots and Soldiers, Prince George's Co Rev. Patriots Listing. Others listed: Joseph Mattingley, enlisted 1776 Philip Mattingley, enlisted 1778 Thomas Mattingley, enlisted 1778 St. Mary's Co. MD, Clement Mattingly took an oath, to Hon. Jeremiah Jordan 1778. This source has an additional notation: "one Clement Mattingly died 2/19/1826". Others from source, Calvert and St. Mary's Co., MD Rev. Patriot, taking oaths: Francis Mattingly, 1778 Ignatius Jr. 1778 James Barton 1778 Joseph 1778 Luke Sr. 1778 Laurie William R Mattingly <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> wrote: Anna's name shows up differently in a couple of places. I've seen her reported as Anna Cam, as Anita Carr and as Anna Carr. The marriage took place in Breckinridge County, Kentucky on 2-3-1817, as far as I have been able to tell. I also carry Thomas as a son of Richard Mattingly and Eleanor Hinton but Richard's will only mentions Thomas, not his wife so I guess the facts are still waiting to be proved. While I have found no proof of who the actual father of the Thomas that married Anna, I have observed that Clement was not in Breckinridge and I presume his son was not as well. Like Charley said though, Perry County is just across the Ohio River from Breckinridge County and perhaps they were from there and simply married in Breckinridge. I don't think I've seen a will for Clement. Does anyone have a copy so that we might verify he even had a son named Thomas? One final note, I tend to think Clement Mattingly was counted on the 1783 tax records of Washington County, Maryland. Other Mattingly's in the same area that year were Richard Sr. and Jr., Joseph, and Barnet as well as the family of Vachel Hinton. I don't have a clue as to Clement's ancestry but believe him to have been from the line of Cezar because of his position in Washington Co., Md. Again though, that's supposition. Not sure when Clement was born but he didn't appear on the rolls of the Pledge of Allegiance in Washington County, Md. in 1778 with Richard, Joseph, Barnet, and Henry. There was a Clement Mattingly who took the pledge in St. Mary's though. If Clement was in Washington County in 1778 then perhaps he was either too young or simply didn't take it, or his record hasn't appeared. If he was from St. Mary's then a whole new ball of wax opens up. ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

But. Laurie, "Missouri" Barton was already born in about 1776, so he could not be the child of a couple which married in 1804. He was already 28 years old by that time! _______________________________________________ Laurie wrote: > FYI > > Luke Mattingly md Betha Cambron, 8/7/1804 Washington Co., KY (KY marriage index) > > Luke Mattingly md Elizabeth Thompson 2/11/1772 St. Mary's MD (from a conglomerate marriage index) > > Luke Mattingly md Eleanor Thompson 2/11/1772 (from Church Records of St. Xaviar, St. Mary's Co., MD) > > > Laurie Morales > > Blaine Burkey <blaineb@slu.edu> wrote: > Referring to my summation from yesterday of the Barton & Luke unravelling, > RafB@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello Fr. Blaine--- > > Is this the Barton Mattingly who was a son of Elizabeth (Thompson) and > > Luke Mattingly? Thanks, > > Ralph Banks, Austin, TX > > I think Ralph means Eleanor Thompson -- which can also be put as "Nelly" > Thompson. > > And there is a very good chance that what he says is true: namely, that > Missouri's Barton.was the one who married "Nelly" Thompson. Many people think > so. > > The church records of St. Mary of the Barrens calls Barton the son of Luke > Mattingly and "Nelly" Cambron. > > There has been some speculation that Luke's wife was originally a Cambron and > married a Thompson prior to marrying Luke. > It occurs to me this evening that simpler explanations are possible, that do not > require another completely undocumented wedding: > > 1. The document in question speaks of Barton marrying an Elizabeth Cambron > daughter of an undecipherably-named Cambron, has a sponsor named Cambron and has > the word Cambron flagged in the margin along with Mattingly. I think the priest > easily could have mistakenly put a fith "Cambron" where he should have said > "Thompson." > > 2. Unlike the other records in the Barrens book, this particular record is dated > only with a year -- no month and day -- which leads me to believe it was put > there sometime after the event and was done from memory -- a memory which had > not retained the month and day -- and possibly not retained Barton's mother's > correct name. Supporting this thought is the fact that the record has the name > of only one parents of the bride, unlke other records in the book which name > both parents of the bride. > > I rest my case. > _______________________________________________. > > May all of you have a blessed Holy Week. > > Fr. Blaine > > Just for the record, the Barrens book has the name Cambron misspelled Cambern > all five times. > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the MattinglyForum-subscribe@egroups.com > Your Host Website http://www.wvi.com/~wb > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner MATTINGLY-admin@rootsweb.com > mailto:MATTINGLY-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:MATTINGLY-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237