Finally! I found my James & Susan as MATTINGLEY on the 1860 DC census, along with 6 children, ages 4 months to 13. James is 27 and Susan is 28. Would these children be hers, theirs, or belong to a relative & they're just "keeping" them for awhile, I wonder. (Susan was married once before to a DOTZLER or DUTZLER.) The 3 children I'm looking for weren't born until 1865 - 1870. These are the same 3 children who show up in Pennsylvania (1880) with their mother & step-father Asbury VERMYLLION. Any ideas where to look now? Thanks for any input. Lynda Snider

"Meade County, Kentucky Records Vol 3 1885-1934 Marriages" by Wathena Kennedy Miller. License date Aug 9-- Hugh Pendleton BUCKLER, of age, and Ida May EDMONDS, of age (Louisville, Ky), married Aug 12, 1902 by B. F. Hagan. I have Hugh Pendleton Buckler married to Ida Mattingly on same date as above. I do not have a source for this and now I am wondering if he was even married to an Ida Mattingly. Would anyone know? Thanks, Betty

Thanks Charley. This is the way I understand it too. Ralph Banks, Austin, TX In a message dated 5/18/04 8:34:52 PM, CharleyMoore@cs.com writes: >Felix was the son of William Mattingly, son of Ignatius and brother of Leonard and Luke. My understanding of the situation has Felix having a son Cosmas born 1831 by Mathilda Spalding in Raywick KY. Cosmas had Phillip "Two Papa" born Oct 1854 by a Deemie Lucinda Thornton [a slave]. Two Papa had 10 children. Charley << In a message dated 5/18/2004 6:32:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blaineb@slu.edu writes: > In one place Cosmos Mattingly has been referred to as the son of Felix > Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding. In another place a Cosmas Mattingly is referred to as the father of Phillip Mattingly who is identified as a black widower, with children referred to as black Later he seems to be remarried -- to a mulatto and has several mixed > blood children. Were Felix Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding black? <<<<<<<

In a message dated 5/18/2004 6:32:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blaineb@slu.edu writes: > In one place Cosmos Mattingly has been referred to as the son of Felix > Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding. > > In another place a Cosmas Mattingly is referred to as the father of > Phillip Mattingly who is identified as a black widower, with children > referred to as black > > Later he seems to be remarried -- to a mulatto and has several mixed > blood children. > > Were Felix Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding black? > Felix was the son of William Mattingly, son of Ignatius and brother of Leonard and Luke. My understanding of the situation has Felix having a son Cosmas born 1831 by Mathilda Spalding in Raywick KY. Cosmas had Phillip "Two Papa" born Oct 1854 by a Deemie Lucinda Thornton [a slave]. Two Papa had 10 children. Charley

I find myself a little confused about recent posting concerned with Cosmos Mattingly, In one place Cosmos Mattingly has been referred to as the son of Felix Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding. In another place a Cosmas Mattingly is referred to as the father of Phillip Mattingly who is identified as a black widower, with children referred to as black Later he seems to be remarried -- to a mulatto and has several mixed blood children. Were Felix Mattingly and Mathilda Spalding black?

Hello William---- Again, thanks for the note about Cosmas Mattingly in the 1910 census information. Could you provide any other information about Cosmas from this census entry? Ralph In a message dated 5/16/04 5:56:58 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Have been scanning the 1910 census of Missouri and found a Cosmos Mattingla, aged 78, born Kentucky, residing in Moreland, Scott County, page 96B. His wife is shown aged 80 and her named looks to me to have been Parsina, born Tennessee. That this was Cosmas Mattingly, son of Felix and Matilda Spalding Mattingly, seems certain enough although I was admittedly surprised to find him there. >>

Thanks for your help, William. Ralph In a message dated 5/17/04 5:56:57 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Ralph I'll continue to keep my eyes open as I search. Hopefully I'll find more. >>

In a message dated 5/17/04 5:56:57 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Ralph I'll continue to keep my eyes open as I search. Hopefully I'll find more. >>

Thanks for your help, William. Ralph In a message dated 5/17/04 5:56:57 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Ralph I'll continue to keep my eyes open as I search. Hopefully I'll find more. >>

William, thanks for the Cosmos Mattingly data. I tried to trace him through other census records and couldn't find him but was able to trace his son, Philip "Two Papa". At least I think this is him. Judith ========================================== MATTINGLY PHIL 46 M B KY KY MARION LEBANON 1900 Series: T623 Roll: 542 Page: 62 22 156 156 Mattingly, Phil, Head, Black, M Oct. 1854, 45 Wid, KY KY KY Farm Laborer William, Son B M Nov 1881, 18, S, KY KY KY Farm Laborer May, Daughter B F Sept 1883, 16, S, KY KY KY None Annie B., Daughter, B F Oct 1885, 14, S KY KY KY None Benjamin, Son, B M, Dec 1887, 12 S, KY KY KY None Lizzie, Daughter, B F Sept 1889, 10 S, KY KY KY None Dena, Daughter, B F Nov 1891, 8 S, KY KY KY None ============================================= MATTINGLY PHILLIP M M KY KY MARION 4-DIST 1910 Series: T624 Roll: 481 Page: 174 54 174 176 Mattingly, Phillip, Head, M Mul, 56 Married 2, 8 years, KY KY KY Farmer Josephine, Wife, F Mul, 35, Married 1, 8 years, No Child, None Living, KY KY KY None Benedict, Son, M Mul, 21 Single, KY KY KY Faram Laborer, working out Mary E. Daughter, F Mul, 19 S, KY KY KY None Demy L. Daughter, F Mul, 16, S, KY KY KY None ============================================= MATTINGLY PHILLIP 65 M B KY KY MARION LEBANON 1920 Series: T625 Roll: 587 Page: 206 4 364 364 Mattingly, Phillip Head, M B 65 Wid, KY KY KY Farm Laborer Dema, Daughter, F Mul, 27 S, KY KY KY Laundering Irene, Granddaughter, F Mul, 2 9/12 , S, KY KY KY None ============================================= Name: Philip Mattingly Image # 19 Age: 75 years Estimated birth year: 1854 Birthplace: Kentucky Relation to Head-of-house: Head Race: Negro Home in 1930: South Lebanon, Marion, Kentucky Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: South Lebanon, Marion, Kentucky; Roll: T626_769; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 11; Image: 0762. Mattingly, Philip, Head, M Neg, 75, Wid, KY KY KY Laborer, General Farm Demi, Daughter, F Neg, 35, S, KY KY KY None Lawrena (Lawrence?), Son, M Neg, 10, S, KY KY KY None Thomas, Son, M Neg, 7, S, KY KY KY None Fennton?, Irene, Daughter, F Neg, 14, S, KY KY KY None ===================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "William R. Mattingly" <wmatting@cablenet-va.com> To: <MATTINGLY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: [MATTINGLY] Cosmas Mattingly > Have been scanning the 1910 census of Missouri and found a Cosmos Mattingla, > aged 78, born Kentucky, residing in Moreland, Scott County, page 96B. His > wife is shown aged 80 and her named looks to me to have been Parsina, born > Tennessee. That this was Cosmas Mattingly, son of Felix and Matilda > Spalding Mattingly, seems certain enough although I was admittedly surprised > to find him there.

Thanks for the information on Cosmas Mattingly, William. Since I have started a file on Cosmas, I will appreciate all the information on him and his wife provided in the 1910 US census. Best regards, Ralph Banks, Austin, TX In a message dated 5/16/04 5:56:58 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Have been scanning the 1910 census of Missouri and found a Cosmos Mattingla, aged 78, born Kentucky, residing in Moreland, Scott County, page 96B. His wife is shown aged 80 and her named looks to me to have been Parsina, born Tennessee. That this was Cosmas Mattingly, son of Felix and Matilda Spalding Mattingly, seems certain enough although I was admittedly surprised to find him there. >>

Thanks for the information on Cosmas Mattingly, William. Since I have started a file on Cosmas, I will appreciate all the information on him and his wife provided in the 1910 US census. Best regards, Ralph Banks, Austin, TX In a message dated 5/16/04 5:56:58 PM, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: << Have been scanning the 1910 census of Missouri and found a Cosmos Mattingla, aged 78, born Kentucky, residing in Moreland, Scott County, page 96B. His wife is shown aged 80 and her named looks to me to have been Parsina, born Tennessee. That this was Cosmas Mattingly, son of Felix and Matilda Spalding Mattingly, seems certain enough although I was admittedly surprised to find him there. >>

Ralph I'll continue to keep my eyes open as I search. Hopefully I'll find more.

In a message dated 5/13/2004 6:32:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wmatting@cablenet-va.com writes: > Having had to replace my PC, I find I have lost a good deal of information. > Can anyone give me Patrick Schmeltzer's e-mail address for an ordering of > the "Mattingly Family in Early America"? William, etal I have his address as Patrick Smeltzer 33 2d Street # 100 Frazeburg, Ohio 43822-9610 I believe the $ was 23.00. Not sure Charley

Have been scanning the 1910 census of Missouri and found a Cosmos Mattingla, aged 78, born Kentucky, residing in Moreland, Scott County, page 96B. His wife is shown aged 80 and her named looks to me to have been Parsina, born Tennessee. That this was Cosmas Mattingly, son of Felix and Matilda Spalding Mattingly, seems certain enough although I was admittedly surprised to find him there.

Charley, thank you. New PC's drive me crazy sometimes and I lost way too much.

Having had to replace my PC, I find I have lost a good deal of information. Can anyone give me Patrick Schmeltzer's e-mail address for an ordering of the "Mattingly Family in Early America"?

I was just discussing this same issue with Judith. Looks like Mary to me and I was doubting the maiden name of Laville anyway.

I tend to believe you're right about Laville not being Mary's maiden name Judith. It really doesn't make a lot of sense that her children would carry her maiden name although I do understand why they would have incorrectly been listed as Mattingly's on one census record. At no time have I seen any of them listed as Brown's and have begun to doubt she was ever married to a Brown.

Forgot to mention that the 1880 census of St. Genevieve County, Missouri shows Emanuel and Emma Cissell with two children: Joseph E. c-1878 and Louisa 3 months. This gives a total of six known children for this couple. I think Joseph E. was previously unknown, at least to me.