>From just glancing through the files there certainly were other Williams around but I don't find them on the census records. I suppose it's possible that they weren't in Kentucky yet but I haven't explored that. Likely they were living with their parents. Not an exhaustive list but some that might should have been around were: William (son of Leonard, Jr. & born abt 1800) married unknown Monarch? This seems like a likely candidate*** I don't think he was one of the below --- William (son of Ignatius & born abt 1804) married Alice Bolling/Bowling. William (son of Richard & born abt 1788) married Nancy Cummins & may have been in Illinois already. William (son of John & born 1807) married Barbara Spencer in 1831. These were my 3rd gt grandparents so this William is out. *********************** > " > Wm. Mattingly married Ann Bullock 12 Nov 1827 and died 1832. >> He left property to wife and son Thomas.Samuel Bullock was the >> executor and may been his father-in-law. >> Anybody have info on William or Thomas. >> This was in Washington Co.,Ky." > >J and William, it sure sounds reasonable to me that the William Mattingly >that married Ann Bullock in 1827 Wash. Co. is the same one that died in 1832 >Wash. Co. and left a son Thomas and wife Ann, but I can't find him on the >Washington County 1830 census either. He should be there with at least his >wife, if not his child/children. Thomas could have been born after 1830 and >daughter/daughters only show up though. > >If he was 21 at marriage in 1827, he would have been only 14 on the 1820 >census so in the household of his father. Who could he be? Looks like it >calls for some digging. Judith Burger

William and J. I came across the children of John Baptist Mattingly from a long discussion back in Feb 2000, and Karen presented these children to us . I think William of this list may be the one we have been discussing here. I have his birthday listed as about 1807. What do you think? Judith Burger All Below From Karen. "Through various court papers that I found on file in the Washington County Courthouse in Springfield, KY, I found 11 or possible 12 children of John Baptist Mattingly. These papers include his 1817 Will, Inventory and Sale, Circuit Court packets and a 1835 Deed. I show his children to be: Eleanor Ryan Phillip Mattingly Barnaby Mattingly Gabriel Mattingly John Mattingly James Mattinlgy Joseph Mattingly Francis Mattingly Nancy Riney Bennett Mattingly William Mattingly" > My 1830 census records may be missing some names but from what I see, there > was only one William in Washington County, at the time, and I believe this > was the son of Leonard. This William was between 50 & 60 per census and > about 53 based on a birthdate in 1777. There was a William in Union County, > between 15 & 20 as head-of-household with only one son and a young wife. I > think this was William C. and Teresa Girten however. The one son would have > been John, born 1829. There was also a William in Clay County, between 20 & > 30 years old but this one had a young daughter. I can't identify any > others. Am I missing one somewhere? > > ******************* > Wm. Mattingly married Ann Bullock 12 Nov 1827 and died 1832. > He left property to wife and son Thomas.Samuel Bullock was the > executor and may been his father-in-law. > Anybody have info on William or Thomas. > This was in Washington Co.,Ky.

" > Wm. Mattingly married Ann Bullock 12 Nov 1827 and died 1832. > He left property to wife and son Thomas.Samuel Bullock was the > executor and may been his father-in-law. > Anybody have info on William or Thomas. > This was in Washington Co.,Ky." J and William, it sure sounds reasonable to me that the William Mattingly that married Ann Bullock in 1827 Wash. Co. is the same one that died in 1832 Wash. Co. and left a son Thomas and wife Ann, but I can't find him on the Washington County 1830 census either. He should be there with at least his wife, if not his child/children. Thomas could have been born after 1830 and daughter/daughters only show up though. If he was 21 at marriage in 1827, he would have been only 14 on the 1820 census so in the household of his father. Who could he be? Looks like it calls for some digging. Judith Burger

My 1830 census records may be missing some names but from what I see, there was only one William in Washington County, at the time, and I believe this was the son of Leonard. This William was between 50 & 60 per census and about 53 based on a birthdate in 1777. There was a William in Union County, between 15 & 20 as head-of-household with only one son and a young wife. I think this was William C. and Teresa Girten however. The one son would have been John, born 1829. There was also a William in Clay County, between 20 & 30 years old but this one had a young daughter. I can't identify any others. Am I missing one somewhere? ******************* Wm. Mattingly married Ann Bullock 12 Nov 1827 and died 1832. He left property to wife and son Thomas.Samuel Bullock was the executor and may been his father-in-law. Anybody have info on William or Thomas. This was in Washington Co.,Ky.

Wm. Mattingly married Ann Bullock 12 Nov 1827 and died 1832. He left property to wife and son Thomas.Samuel Bullock was the executor and may been his father-in-law. Anybody have info on William or Thomas. This was in Washington Co.,Ky.

Tom, I appreciate the kind words but I must be honest. Nearly everyone on Mattingly-L has contributed some part to the data. Without them I can't imagine where I would be with this stuff. There are so many others who have helped me over the years. One in particular that I must mention by name is Mary Ruth Beavens Bye. There are literally dozens more. >> I came across your Descendants of Thomas Mattingly II website. I was very >> impressed. It looks like you put a lot of time into it.

Joe, Paul, etc. I found two marriages in Margaret Clark Kingston's book for a Phillip Mattingly: 27 Jan 1806 Phillip Mattingly m. Mary Yeager Washington Co Marriages Book 1 pg 71 10 July 1829 Phillip Mattingly m. Mariann Elizabeth Mudd, d/l Francis Mudd bond- Francis Mudd Washington Co Marriages Book 2 pg 164 ************* In Dianna Bertram's "St Rose Cemetery and Other Tidbits" I found: Phillip Mattingly - November 26, 1842 burial date; pg 64 of St Rose Baptismal Book 1; burial record page 125 ************ In Rev John Lyons' First Register St. Rose Baptisms 1830-1839: Mattingly, Philip and Mary Elizabeth 'Betsy' Mudd: (Marr. Jul 10, 1824. Betsy, dau of Frank Mudd: Mudd, pg 706.) -Mary Mildred Mattingly, cerem. supp. Oct 9, 1832. Sp: Eleanor Mattingly. Bapt by Rev.. Robt Abell of Louisville, Jan. 19, 1832.) pg. 39 -(a son) Mattingly, bapt. Aug 23 1836. Sp: Susan Mattingly p. 100 -Wm Robert Mattingly, bap. 5 Jan 1839. Sp: Mary Mattingly, his sister -Nancy Letitia, twin of Wm Robert, bap. same day. sp: Eleanor Hayden, their sister p.87 ********** Other Mattinglys in the same book above: Mattingly, Caleb and Sarah Priscilla Maddox -Margaret Eliz. Mattingly, bap. 10 Jul 1831. Sp: Mary Clements p. 26 Mattingly, John F. and Mary E. Hill (Marr. Oct 20, 1831. Mary, dau Clement Hill and Mary Hamilton: Donnelly, pg 12 -Clement Mattingly, bap. 24 Sept 1832. Sp: Martha Buckman p. 38 -John Thomas Mattingly, bap. 9 Nov 1834. Sp: Marg. Mattingly p. 59 Mattingly, John and Rose -John Mattingly, bap. 8 May 1834. sp: Emily _____? pg. 54 Grooms' Index-Mattingly (I'm missing page 42 in this book so I don't have these) Bride's Names--Marriage Register-same book Mattingly, Louise and John Hayden (I'm missing page 42 in this book) Mattingly, Marg. and James H. Gittings 15 Feb 1836 pg 77 Mattingly, Susan and Richard Seay 26 Sept 1837 pg. 80 Death Register-same book Mattingly, Ann 31 Aug 1834 pg 125 Mattingly, Martha Sept 1838 pg 130 Mattingly, Mary 2 Feb 1835 pg 125 Mattingly, Philip 26 Nov 1842 pg 135 Mattingly, Susan 20 Oct 1843 pg 136 If any of you good folks out there can connect these Mattinglys--please do share with us on the list. Or if any can scan me a copy of page 42 of this book, I would really appreciate it! Thanks!! Shirley

Tom, William's Website is the bible for Mattingly research. Judith Burger > William, > I came across your Descendants of Thomas Mattingly II website. I was very > impressed. It looks like you put a lot of time into it. > > Best Regards, > > Tom Hubscher

William, I came across your Descendants of Thomas Mattingly II website. I was very impressed. It looks like you put a lot of time into it. Best Regards, Tom Hubscher -----Original Message----- From: William R Mattingly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Phillip Mattingly I have a transcribed copy of that will which was sent to me some time back by Judith and I believe she's posted in on Rootsweb but I'll forward it if you want. ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> We also have the [email protected] Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

The will of Wm. Mattingly posted by Judith shows wife Ann and son Thomas proved Mar 26 1832. Does anyone have more on this William. Joe

Please dont try to edit any Genconnects till we are done and they are ready for use again Thanks Dan Genealogy Resources http://www.wvi.com/~wb For Virus/Spam/Firewall/help on win or OE http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/page1.html All my lists have a website to share data - ask ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 8:53 PM Subject: [MATTINGLY] William Mattingly 1832 > The will of Wm. Mattingly posted by Judith shows wife Ann > and son Thomas proved Mar 26 1832. > Does anyone have more on this William. > Joe > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the [email protected] > Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I have reclaimed all the gen boards They have all changed, all the data is there = but they are clumped together The Mattingly forum was created for you all to use as your own system, you can trade pictures, geds, and such to the list, it also has a 20 meg web page with picture sharing and a data base some one can build , its all for you people and up to you if you want to use it , I only created it and told every one what it can do, you are not stuck with plain text , it is a nice setup . Any one here can think of what you would like to use it for , go ahead . Subscriptions are open, the website is open, and it also has instant chat. Fire hot - are the admins who own Genconnects and liked them where they were and how they were - as it is I have to redo about 50 webpages to correct them for new links. Dan Genealogy Resources http://www.wvi.com/~wb For Virus/Spam/Firewall/help on win or OE http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/page1.html All my lists have a website to share data - ask ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: Genconnect Dan, I guess I don't understand your objections. I thought Ancestry was the owner of Rootsweb and in turn, Rootsweb was the owner of the Genconnect boards. A couple of weeks ago I received an e-mail from Rootsweb informing me that the format was going to change and that Genforum and FamilyHistory surnames boards will be combined. I have accessed the Genconnect boards almost daily since that note and while I do find that a format change, it seems to be working fine from my perspective and I have had no problem accessing the queries or posts from any of the states or counties I regularly access. As for Genconnect being closed, I was accessing and leaving queries only 15 minutes ago. What do you mean by it is closed? As for the [email protected] group list, it only has 13 members and not a single post since January which by the way was where old Charley went when he kissed off this group. No thanks, I had enough of him when he was here. You have been trying to get us all to move over there for two years, is that what this is all about!!!!! The Yahoo boards are sparcely used and not so far I have not found Yahoo to be a great supporter of the family history buffs. I belonged to your Yahoo board for about two years and think about 4 messages were posted in that entire time. Please send another e-mail to this list and to Ancestry at the same time so all can respond to your concerns. I for one have been very happy with the new changes from the merger of these genealogy groups and would not like to see actions that impede that progress. As for the wills etc that were posted to the Genconnect locations, they are still there just in a central locations, see below. For example all of Judith Burger's wills are still there I looked at them this morning . "How do I find posts that were on the GenConnect boards for obituaries, wills, biographies, etc? The former suite of boards at GenConnect has been combined into one master board containing posts to any board in the suite. These posts can now be accessed using the "Advanced Search"' option. Click on "Advanced Search" and select the classification from the "With Message Type" drop-down box.A "Message Type" search currently returns posts from ALL boards with that classification. Refine your search by typing a surname or a county name in the "Find Messages Containing" or "With Subject Containing" box." I did this it is very simple and wills on Mattingly from various locations, KY and MD can be accessed at the same time. Please see this only as a reply trying to sort thru your comments and what I see on the boards. I for one am not convinced, if you can do that I will go your direction. By the way, what is "fire hot". I accessed 27 different locations this morning on Genconnect and all were there and all worked as expected. Bob Alvey In a message dated 6/24/01 1:02:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: [email protected]

Dan, I guess I don't understand your objections. I thought Ancestry was the owner of Rootsweb and in turn, Rootsweb was the owner of the Genconnect boards. A couple of weeks ago I received an e-mail from Rootsweb informing me that the format was going to change and that Genforum and FamilyHistory surnames boards will be combined. I have accessed the Genconnect boards almost daily since that note and while I do find that a format change, it seems to be working fine from my perspective and I have had no problem accessing the queries or posts from any of the states or counties I regularly access. As for Genconnect being closed, I was accessing and leaving queries only 15 minutes ago. What do you mean by it is closed? As for the [email protected] group list, it only has 13 members and not a single post since January which by the way was where old Charley went when he kissed off this group. No thanks, I had enough of him when he was here. You have been trying to get us all to move over there for two years, is that what this is all about!!!!! The Yahoo boards are sparcely used and not so far I have not found Yahoo to be a great supporter of the family history buffs. I belonged to your Yahoo board for about two years and think about 4 messages were posted in that entire time. Please send another e-mail to this list and to Ancestry at the same time so all can respond to your concerns. I for one have been very happy with the new changes from the merger of these genealogy groups and would not like to see actions that impede that progress. As for the wills etc that were posted to the Genconnect locations, they are still there just in a central locations, see below. For example all of Judith Burger's wills are still there I looked at them this morning . "How do I find posts that were on the GenConnect boards for obituaries, wills, biographies, etc? The former suite of boards at GenConnect has been combined into one master board containing posts to any board in the suite. These posts can now be accessed using the "Advanced Search"' option. Click on "Advanced Search" and select the classification from the "With Message Type" drop-down box.A "Message Type" search currently returns posts from ALL boards with that classification. Refine your search by typing a surname or a county name in the "Find Messages Containing" or "With Subject Containing" box." I did this it is very simple and wills on Mattingly from various locations, KY and MD can be accessed at the same time. Please see this only as a reply trying to sort thru your comments and what I see on the boards. I for one am not convinced, if you can do that I will go your direction. By the way, what is "fire hot". I accessed 27 different locations this morning on Genconnect and all were there and all worked as expected. Bob Alvey In a message dated 6/24/01 1:02:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: >

Just to let you all know Genconnect has been taken over by My Family.com and Ancestry I am working at trying to reclaim them, but it seems all the Genconnect board admins are fire hot and the system that has them dont seem to work very well , board admins for many genconnects are up in arms , and we have been bomb barded with the new list to boot, in 2 days it had hit 2000 messages++ and we have to weed through this mess to try to reclaim our boards - My advice is not to put any thing there and use your MattinglyForum , that web board is yours and no one will take it . It has file sharing, a data base, pictures sharing, and all that, lots of bells and whistles all you need to do is use it We also have the [email protected] Genconnect is closed till further notice I started this list when every one wanted to be separate from the Matney list, I also started the Forum list when I first thought you would like to have more resources Unknown to many is = you do not have to be a member of rootsweb to glean the list , but you DO have to be a member of the Forum list to get any thing at all from it. I have the MatneyForum set to closed , as I can set this one as well once you have joined, but also suggest being a member of both lists. Any questions ? Dan Genealogy Resources http://www.wvi.com/~wb For Virus/Spam/Firewall/help on win or OE http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/page1.html All my lists have a website to share data - ask

I have a transcribed copy of that will which was sent to me some time back by Judith and I believe she's posted in on Rootsweb but I'll forward it if you want.

Ok Paul and William, I think you answered my question well that there is no evidence to say who is who.I had a note that a Phillip died 1821 in Nelson Co and left a will.Have you guys seen that will? Joe Mattingly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Phillip Mattingly > >From what I have seen, this Phillip Mattingly was sponsored at his >baptistism by Peter Mattingly, son of James (d. 1745). There is no >indication who his parents were. As Peter was his sponsor, it is unlikely >that he was Peter's son. The fact that his baptist is recorded but that >his parents' names are not, makes me think that he may have been an orphan >of one ot Peter's brothers His brother Thomas died in 1762 and left a >widow Margaret Mattingly who is also named as a sponsor of Phillip's >baptism. There is some indication that Peter did have a son named Joseph >and one named Ignatius. Interestingly, a Joseph (according to Rev Webb's >Catholicity of KY) was also with Phillip at Pottinger's Creek in 1785. >There are later documents that show that this Joseph may have been the one >to marry Henrietta Taylor (and she may have been a Boone, widow of ____ >Taylor). There is later records of a John B Mattingly also being at >Pottinger's Creek. I agree with William, in that there is no evidence to >substantiate that this Phillip was the Phillip born in 1761. However, in >view of the fact that we don't come across the name Phillip again except >for the grandson of Ignatius Mattingly (father of the 3 Mattinglys that >came to KY), son of Zachariah Mattingly (and this Phillip had apparently >died by 1823 in MD), there is good reason to believe that he may have been >one in the same. There was a Thomas and Phillip Mattingly that enlisted in >the Rev Army in 1778. The above Phillip would have been 17 at the time and >could qualify. Who the Thomas Mattingly is with him, I don't know. > >Paul Mattingly >Atlanta, GA > > >==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== ><Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> >We also have the [email protected] >Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney >Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ >To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

From what I have seen, this Phillip Mattingly was sponsored at his baptistism by Peter Mattingly, son of James (d. 1745). There is no indication who his parents were. As Peter was his sponsor, it is unlikely that he was Peter's son. The fact that his baptist is recorded but that his parents' names are not, makes me think that he may have been an orphan of one ot Peter's brothers His brother Thomas died in 1762 and left a widow Margaret Mattingly who is also named as a sponsor of Phillip's baptism. There is some indication that Peter did have a son named Joseph and one named Ignatius. Interestingly, a Joseph (according to Rev Webb's Catholicity of KY) was also with Phillip at Pottinger's Creek in 1785. There are later documents that show that this Joseph may have been the one to marry Henrietta Taylor (and she may have been a Boone, widow of ____ Taylor). There is later records of a John B Mattingly also being at Pottinger's Creek. I agree with William, in that there is no evidence to substantiate that this Phillip was the Phillip born in 1761. However, in view of the fact that we don't come across the name Phillip again except for the grandson of Ignatius Mattingly (father of the 3 Mattinglys that came to KY), son of Zachariah Mattingly (and this Phillip had apparently died by 1823 in MD), there is good reason to believe that he may have been one in the same. There was a Thomas and Phillip Mattingly that enlisted in the Rev Army in 1778. The above Phillip would have been 17 at the time and could qualify. Who the Thomas Mattingly is with him, I don't know. Paul Mattingly Atlanta, GA

William, Any evidence on the Phillip's is hard to find.Several on Rootsweb as Phillip 1761 he m.Mary Yeager and had dau.Rachel Rosella in Marion Co.Was son of Phillip 1710. One son of John Baptist. Another son of Peter. Also Phillip 1788 son of James. The Phillip 1761 d.1821 in Nelson Co and left a will i havent seen could be in the first Catholic Settlers group. Joe -----Original Message----- From: William R Mattingly <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Phillip Mattingly >>From what I've seen, Peter and Catherine were God-parents for Phillip, born >in 1761 and his father was James, Jr. born about 1728. I could certainly be >wrong on this as all I've seen were transcribed copies of birth records and >not the actual papers. Unfortunately, I don't have any evidence that this >Phillip was the one who came to Kentucky. > >************ >I have Phillip Mattingly b.3 Jan 1761 son of >Peter Mattingly and Catherine Spalding. >Does anyone know if this is the Phillip who came >to Ky in the group of settlers to Nelson Co.? > > >==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== ><Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> >We also have the [email protected] >Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney >Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ >To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

>From what I've seen, Peter and Catherine were God-parents for Phillip, born in 1761 and his father was James, Jr. born about 1728. I could certainly be wrong on this as all I've seen were transcribed copies of birth records and not the actual papers. Unfortunately, I don't have any evidence that this Phillip was the one who came to Kentucky. ************ I have Phillip Mattingly b.3 Jan 1761 son of Peter Mattingly and Catherine Spalding. Does anyone know if this is the Phillip who came to Ky in the group of settlers to Nelson Co.?

I have Phillip Mattingly b.3 Jan 1761 son of Peter Mattingly and Catherine Spalding. Does anyone know if this is the Phillip who came to Ky in the group of settlers to Nelson Co.?