William > I'm thinking that George was not originally from Nelson County. Isn't this > him in Washington County during both 1820 and 1830? > That's right William, the first two census listing (1820 & 1830) I posted in my last e-mail were from Washington Co. I see you did not cut and add them to this e-mail or did you just not get them? In 1840, the first Nelson Co year he is listed with a younger wife thatn the 1820 adn 1830 Washington Co, KY census. That's part of my reason for thinking that his first wife could be Elizabeth Buckman who he married in Washington Co, then he married Catherine Miles in Nelson Co, KY later > 1820 George between the ages of 18 and 26 (should have been about 23 if born > in 1797 as suggested by the 1850 census). > 1830 George between the ages of 30 and 40. Should have been about 33. > Do believe you have the math right but the range in the 1820 census was 16/26 (1794-1804) and would be a year off if b. 1793. But for a 1820 census record, one year is close enough for me. There was an added category in 1820 of 16/18 which often had children listed twice if they were in this category for the next category was not 18/26 but reverted to 16/26. The category's for males only was 0/10, 10/16, 16/18, 16/26, 26/45 etc. In 1830 George was listed in the 30/40 category and would have been 33 as you say. > George apparently relocated to Nelson County sometime between 1830 and 1840 > as he is in Nelson by the 1840 census. > > I agree and I bet the KY tax lists for Washington and Nelson Co's could pin > point that even closer. In looking at the possibilities of parents in Washington County there are > simply too many to speculate. Yep, and that is why I sidestepped any speculation as to who his parents might be. I did not have the time to layout a similar census evaluation to at least eliminate who had no children in the right category. Can be done but will take some time Bob Alvey > > > ***************** > This sure seems to fit and would fill on of the missing slots in the 1840 > Nelson Co, KY listing for George Mattingly. Because Elizabeth Ann is > married > in Nelson Co in 1849, she is not on the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her > father but in the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her husband William R > Gates > age 28, Elizabeth age 17. George's family is in the 1860 Daviess Co, KY > census but the Gates family is still in Nelson Co. in 1860, William R > Gates age 38, Elizabeth A age 28, Thomas M age 9, George E age 7, Eliza age > 6, John age 5, Truman age 3, Susan E age 2, William age 6/12. I found > William Gates and family in the 1870 Nelson Co, KY census. > > > >>1840 Nelson Co, KY > >>George Mattingly > >>3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) > >>2 males 10/15 (1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) > >>1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) > >>1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? > >>2 males 40/50 (1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? > >>1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? > >>2 females 5/10 (1830 - 1835) Elizabeth Ann (1833), ? > >>1 female 10/15 (1825 - 1830) F (1827) > >>1 female 30/40 (1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1832) > >

I'm thinking that George was not originally from Nelson County. Isn't this him in Washington County during both 1820 and 1830? 1820 George between the ages of 18 and 26 (should have been about 23 if born in 1797 as suggested by the 1850 census). 1830 George between the ages of 30 and 40. Should have been about 33. George apparently relocated to Nelson County sometime between 1830 and 1840 as he is in Nelson by the 1840 census. In looking at the possibilities of parents in Washington County there are simply too many to speculate. ***************** This sure seems to fit and would fill on of the missing slots in the 1840 Nelson Co, KY listing for George Mattingly. Because Elizabeth Ann is married in Nelson Co in 1849, she is not on the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her father but in the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her husband William R Gates age 28, Elizabeth age 17. George's family is in the 1860 Daviess Co, KY census but the Gates family is still in Nelson Co. in 1860, William R Gates age 38, Elizabeth A age 28, Thomas M age 9, George E age 7, Eliza age 6, John age 5, Truman age 3, Susan E age 2, William age 6/12. I found William Gates and family in the 1870 Nelson Co, KY census. >>1840 Nelson Co, KY >>George Mattingly >>3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) >>2 males 10/15 (1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) >>1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) >>1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? >>2 males 40/50 (1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? >>1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? >>2 females 5/10 (1830 - 1835) Elizabeth Ann (1833), ? >>1 female 10/15 (1825 - 1830) F (1827) >>1 female 30/40 (1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1832)

Bob, Sept 28,2000 you and William looked at this family.Got my attention because i thought James might be my GGF but wasn't.Have your reply of 28th printed out. Births on microfilm shows several as W R Gates and Elizabeth she of Daviess Co.James and Lucretia were having children the same years in Daviess.So it would look like she sister to James and the father was dead as he went her bond.If George was the dad wasnt he still living but maybe not able to travel? Does this make sense? Joe Nelson Co. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: [MATTINGLY] George Mattingly & Catherine Miles >Joe, when and where was this guy studied last September, on the Mattingly >list?? > >This sure seems to fit and would fill on of the missing slots in the 1840 >Nelson Co, KY listing for George Mattingly. Because Elizabeth Ann is married >in Nelson Co in 1849, she is not on the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her >father but in the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her husband William R Gates >age 28, Elizabeth age 17. George's family is in the 1860 Daviess Co, KY >census but the Gates family is still in Nelson Co. in 1860, William R >Gates age 38, Elizabeth A age 28, Thomas M age 9, George E age 7, Eliza age >6, John age 5, Truman age 3, Susan E age 2, William age 6/12. I found >William Gates and family in the 1870 Nelson Co, KY census. > >Bob Alvey > >1840 Nelson Co, KY >George Mattingly >3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) >2 males 10/15 (1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) >1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) >1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? >2 males 40/50 (1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? >1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? >2 females 5/10 (1830 - 1835) Elizabeth Ann (1833), ? >1 female 10/15 (1825 - 1830) F (1827) >1 female 30/40 (1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1832) > >Descendants of George Mattingly > >1 George Mattingly b: 1793 in Washington Co, KY d: July 31, 1859 > in Daviess Co, KY >*2nd Wife of George Mattingly: >.+Catherine Miles b: 1803 in Nelson Co, KY m: January 28, 1832 in Nelson >Co, KY d: 1874 in Daviess Co, KY Father: Thomas Miles >..2 Elizabeth Ann Mattingly b: 1833 in KY >......+William R Gates b: 1822 in KY m: September 11, 1849 in Nelson Co, KY >.......3 Thomas M Gates b: 1851 in KY >.......3 George E Gates b: 1852 in KY >.......3 Eliza Jane Gates b: 1853 in Daviess Co, KY >.......3 John F Gates b: 1855 in KY >.......3 Truman Gates b: 1857 in KY >.......3 Susan E b. 1858 in KY >.......3 William Gates b: 1859 in KY >.......3 Mary C Gates b: 1861 in KY >.......3 Appolonia Gates b: 1863 in KY >.......3 Ruth Gates b: 1865 in KY >.......3 Martin Gates b: 1868 in KY >.......3 Mattie B Gates b: 1869 in KY > >> This same guy was studied last September.Nelson Co marriages shows >> Wm. Gates m. Elizabeth Mattingly from Daviess Co. >> James M Mattingly signed the bond.George,JM and Gates all appear >> related as William shows. >> >> > > > > >==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== ><Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> >We also have the [email protected] >Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney >Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ >To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscrib e > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Joe, when and where was this guy studied last September, on the Mattingly list?? This sure seems to fit and would fill on of the missing slots in the 1840 Nelson Co, KY listing for George Mattingly. Because Elizabeth Ann is married in Nelson Co in 1849, she is not on the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her father but in the 1850 Nelson Co, KY census with her husband William R Gates age 28, Elizabeth age 17. George's family is in the 1860 Daviess Co, KY census but the Gates family is still in Nelson Co. in 1860, William R Gates age 38, Elizabeth A age 28, Thomas M age 9, George E age 7, Eliza age 6, John age 5, Truman age 3, Susan E age 2, William age 6/12. I found William Gates and family in the 1870 Nelson Co, KY census. Bob Alvey 1840 Nelson Co, KY George Mattingly 3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) 2 males 10/15 (1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) 1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) 1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? 2 males 40/50 (1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? 1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? 2 females 5/10 (1830 - 1835) Elizabeth Ann (1833), ? 1 female 10/15 (1825 - 1830) F (1827) 1 female 30/40 (1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1832) Descendants of George Mattingly 1 George Mattingly b: 1793 in Washington Co, KY d: July 31, 1859 in Daviess Co, KY *2nd Wife of George Mattingly: .+Catherine Miles b: 1803 in Nelson Co, KY m: January 28, 1832 in Nelson Co, KY d: 1874 in Daviess Co, KY Father: Thomas Miles ..2 Elizabeth Ann Mattingly b: 1833 in KY ......+William R Gates b: 1822 in KY m: September 11, 1849 in Nelson Co, KY .......3 Thomas M Gates b: 1851 in KY .......3 George E Gates b: 1852 in KY .......3 Eliza Jane Gates b: 1853 in Daviess Co, KY .......3 John F Gates b: 1855 in KY .......3 Truman Gates b: 1857 in KY .......3 Susan E b. 1858 in KY .......3 William Gates b: 1859 in KY .......3 Mary C Gates b: 1861 in KY .......3 Appolonia Gates b: 1863 in KY .......3 Ruth Gates b: 1865 in KY .......3 Martin Gates b: 1868 in KY .......3 Mattie B Gates b: 1869 in KY > This same guy was studied last September.Nelson Co marriages shows > Wm. Gates m. Elizabeth Mattingly from Daviess Co. > James M Mattingly signed the bond.George,JM and Gates all appear > related as William shows. > >

William, I can follow all you are saying below but I don't have the marriage of an Austin Mattingly to Ann Elizabeth Bartlett. But I do show Augustine D Mattingly as the son of George Austin "Big George" Mattingly. I don't show a son Austin. Gerald Thompson in his "KY Catholic Pioneers" states that Augustine b. abt 1828 was the son of George Austin Mattingly and Ann "Nancy" Johnson per Holy Naame of Mary Catholic Church baptismal records where Augustine is listed as baptized on 10/28/1828. Godparents were Henry and Catherine (Flanagan) Johnson. Also George Austin and Nancy Mattingly are listed among those buried in the St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery in Daviess Co, KY. George is listed as George E which looks like an error and was b. 10/30/1802 d. 10/31/1883. Nancy is listed as b. 12/15/1807 d. 10/23/1869, wife of George. A couple of years ago I was at the Filson Club in Louisville and in the backroom files are a series of folders with information by Father Lyons. One of these folders is titled the Calvary Genealogy. It has family data by surname. I copied a few pages, on Mattingly, Carrico, Bickett and a few others. Would like to copy the entire file someday. But there is a page titled "George Mattingly, son of Basil Mattingly of Leonard . States that George married Anna Johnson or Johnston on 1/22/1828, HNMCC, Calvary, KY. Says that Geoge and Nancy raised 8 children and moved to Daviess Co, KY. George died in 1885 (there are a few differences such as George's deathdate of 1885 vs 1883 per St Lawrence records and the fact that in 1850 the parish census of St Mary of the Woods, Whitesville lists Geroge with 12 in the household including 10 children. Think a couple were not found in the baptismal registers. But these were listed. Augustine and Amanda were bap on Calvary, KY, the rest st St Lawrence in DAviess Co, KY. Augustine D bap 12/28/1828; Amanda Catherine b. 4/10/1830, bap 5/30/1820; Harriet b. 7/1/1834 bap 8/10/1834; Eleanor b. 8/12/1836 bap 9/25/1836; George Milton b. 1/11/1835 bap 4/23/1835; Eliza Jane b. 2/9/1840 bap 5/17/1840; Mary Ann b. 5/3/1941 bap 8/15/1841; Patrick Johnson b. (not listed) bap 2/15/1847; Rosette b. 1/20/1849 bap 5/13/1849. Per census records I find a John b. abt 1832 and a Nancy b. abt 1844. Below is a couple of generations of George Austin Mattingly as I show it. Bob Alvey Descendants of George Austin "Big George" Mattingly 1 George Austin "Big George" Mattingly b: October 30, 1802 in Prob Washington Co, KY d: October 31, 1883 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY .+Ann "Nancy" Johnson b: December 15, 1807 in KY m: January 22, 1828 in Washington Co, KY d: December 23, 1869 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY Father: Henry Johnson Mother: Catherine Flanagan ..2 Augustine D Mattingly b: Bef. October 29, 1828 in Washington Co, KY ...... +Catherine Johnson m: 1846 in Prob Daviess Co, KY ..2 Amanda Catherine Mattingly b: April 10, 1830 in Washington Co, KY d: April 12, 1912 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY ...... +Thomas Monarch b: October 16, 1817 in KY m: October 23, 1848 in Daviess Co, KY d: March 10, 1864 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY Father: James Monarch, Sr Mother: Ruth Russell ....... 3 Georgia Anna Monarch b: August 29, 1849 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Mary Rosetta Monarch b: January 14, 1852 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Baby Monarch b: October 10, 1854 in Daviess Co, KY d: October 10, 1854 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Alice M Monarch b: February 02, 1858 in Daviess Co, KY d: March 08, 1861 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Ellen Generose Monarch b: March 08, 1861 in Daviess Co, KY ........... +Aloysius Militisus Howard b: February 12, 1855 in KY m: Abt. 1879 Father: Aloysius Howard Mother: Martha Anne Shanks ....... 3 Harriett Lee "Hattie" Monarch b: September 05, 1863 in Daviess Co, KY ........... +John Calvin Simmons ..2 John Mattingly b: 1832 in KY ..2 Harriett Mattingly b: July 01, 1834 in Daviess Co, KY d: February 26, 1884 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY ..2 George Milton Mattingly b: June 11, 1835 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Eleanor Mattingly b: August 12, 1836 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Elizabeth Jane Mattingly b: February 09, 1840 in Daviess Co, KY d: February 17, 1931 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY ...... +Thomas J Monarch, Sr b: April 26, 1836 in Owensboro, Daviess Co, KY m: July 10, 1865 in Daviess Co, KY d: July 21, 1887 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY Father: Thomas Monarch Mother: Susan Davis ....... 3 Henrietta "Etta" Monarch b: August 20, 1866 in Daviess Co, KY d: September 26, 1940 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY ........... +Edwin P Millett b: May 20, 1856 in Vincesses, IN d: January 14, 1941 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY ....... 3 Consuela Monarch b: 1869 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Susan Monarch b: 1872 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Paul Monarch b: 1877 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Thomas J Monarch, Jr b: 1879 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Mary Ann Mattingly b: March 03, 1841 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Ann "Nancy" Mattingly b: 1844 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Patrick Johnson Mattingly b: Abt. February 15, 1847 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Rosette Mattingly b: January 20, 1849 in Davess Co, KY d: January 28, 1850 in Davess Co, KY Burial: St Lawrence Catholic Cemetery, Daviess Co, KY > Ralph and all, I have this George as having married Ann Nancy Johnson. I > currently carry him as George Austin and being in Daviess Co., Ky. during > the 1850 census but dying in Daviess County, Indiana. This is the one whose > nickname was reported as being "Big George". I know some researchers carry > two men, one George and one Austin but I think they're the same man. I have > some difficulties with the off-spring of George. I believe he only had the > one son named Augustine but he must have went by Austin also (appears that > way on some records). I currently carry both men as sons of George but only > so I can try to delete one of the wives. For instance, I show Augustine as > marrying a Catherine Johnson and Austin as marrying Ann Elizabeth Bartlett. > The same man likely married both women but I haven't been able to verify > that yet. > > ****************** > I have a George Mattingly, b. 1803, Washington County, Kentucky; d. > 1885, Daviess County, Kentucky; son of Basil (1772-1835), son of Leonard > (1739-1829). Is this any kind of a clue? > >

This same guy was studied last September.Nelson Co marriages shows Wm. Gates m. Elizabeth Mattingly from Daviess Co. James M Mattingly signed the bond.George,JM and Gates all appear related as William shows.

Ralph and all, I have this George as having married Ann Nancy Johnson. I currently carry him as George Austin and being in Daviess Co., Ky. during the 1850 census but dying in Daviess County, Indiana. This is the one whose nickname was reported as being "Big George". I know some researchers carry two men, one George and one Austin but I think they're the same man. I have some difficulties with the off-spring of George. I believe he only had the one son named Augustine but he must have went by Austin also (appears that way on some records). I currently carry both men as sons of George but only so I can try to delete one of the wives. For instance, I show Augustine as marrying a Catherine Johnson and Austin as marrying Ann Elizabeth Bartlett. The same man likely married both women but I haven't been able to verify that yet. ****************** I have a George Mattingly, b. 1803, Washington County, Kentucky; d. 1885, Daviess County, Kentucky; son of Basil (1772-1835), son of Leonard (1739-1829). Is this any kind of a clue?

There's Mattinglys in Union! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria T." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: [KyUnion] 1850 census online > The 1850 Union County Census is online, no links to it anywhere yet > though, nor do we have an index for it yet....hoping the census project > sends us one. > > BUT if you know page numbers, it's at > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/union/census/1850/ > > Maria > > > ==== KYUNION Mailing List ==== > Post your Union County Obits: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/UnionObits > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

William----- I have a George Mattingly, b. 1803, Washington County, Kentucky; d. 1885, Daviess County, Kentucky; son of Basil (1772-1835), son of Leonard (1739-1829). Is this any kind of a clue? Ralph Banks, Austin, TX

William--- I have a George Mattingly b. 1803, Washington To

I also have considered that George may have married both Elizabeth Buckman and Catherine Miles. The parentage of George escapes me but several of the children of Leonard Mattingly and Mary Hayden married into this family of Buckman's. ie: Mary Polly Mattingly to John Buckman; William married Henrietta Buckman. Julia Ann Buckman married Charles Russell (a grandson of Leonard and Mary). George would fit well into this line of Mattingly's but there is no record of Leonard having a son named George. ************************* >I have two George Mattingly's in my data file that I am beginning to think >might be one and the same. In Washington Co, KY on June 5, 1815, George >Mattingly married Elizabeth Buckman, dau of Charles Buckman and Jane Dunbar. >In Sister Donnelly's Buckman book she states that according to census >records, they had 6 children, 4 sons and 2 daughters, only a son named >Richard b. 1830 and baptized at St Charles Catholic Church in St Mary's. KY >is named, the rest are unknown. This agrees with the 1820 and 1830 >Washington Co, KY census which I am sure is her main source. But in 1840, >there is no George in Washington but a very similar George is in Nelson Co, >KY and has a younger wife, probably Catherine Miles. They are in the 1840 >and 1850 Nelson Co, KY census and then the family is found in Daviess co, KY >in 1860 minus George who has died on July 31, 1859 per William R Mattingly's >recent e-mail information. > >Some of these children got dropped off along the way either in Washington, >Nelson or Daviess Co but that is for another time. Not sure what happened to >all these children but we have plenty of unresolved Mattingly's to accomodate >these few. I'm still not sure who was the father of George Mattingly. Below >are two sets of data, the first is the census listings from 1820 to 1860. >The second is my Geroge Mattingly chart assuming that he marrried first >Elizabeth Buckman per Washington Co, KY marriage records and secondly >Catherine Miles per Nelson Co, KY marriage records. > >Bob Alvey > > >1820 Washingtom Co, KY >George Mattingly >2 males 0/10 (1810 - 1820) ?,? >1 male 16/26 (1794 - 1804) George 1793 (close) >1 female 16/26(1794 - 1804) Elizabeth Buckman? abt 1795 if 20 when married > >1830 Washington Co, KY >George Mattingly >1 male 0/5 (1825 - 1830) Richard (1830) >2 male 5/10 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) & M (1825) >1 male 10/15 (1815 - 1820) ? >1 male 30/40 (1790 - 1800) George 1793 >2 females 0/5 (1825 - 1830) J (1827) >1 female 30/40 (1790 - 1800) 1st wife (Elizabeth Buckman??) m. 6/6/1815 > >1840 Nelson Co, KY >George Mattingly >3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) >2 males 10/15(1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) >1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) >1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? >2 males 40/50(1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? >1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? >2 females 5/10(1830 - 1835) ?,? >1 female 10/15(1825 - 1830) F (1827) >1 female 30/40(1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1/28/1832) > >1850 Nelson Co, KY >George 57 1793 M All KY >C 47 1803 F >W 26 1824 M >M 25 1825 M >J 20 1830 F >T 15 1835 M >F 13 1837 M >M 11 1839 M >S 9 1841 F >M 8 1842 M >Martin 6 1844 M >E 3 1847 F >J 2 1848 M > >1860 Daviess Co, KY > >Household 37 >F K Mattingly 24 1836 M >J M Mattingly 22 1838 M Fk & JM are living with a Brown family as >farm labor > Is this the FK and JM mentioned in George's will? >Household 47 >Catherine 55 1805 F KY Widow of George who dies in 7/31/1859 >P M 18 1842 F S/b Miles P male b. 9/20/1841 >Martin S 16 1844 M >Emma C 14 1846 F >Jim E 12 1848 M > >There might be others but I am trying to find common ground for George >Mattingly to be the husband of both Elizabeth Buckman and Catherine Miles. > >Descendants of George Mattingly > >1 George Mattingly b: 1793 in Washington Co, KY d: July 31, 1859 in Daviess >Co, KY >.+Elizabeth Buckman b: Abt. 1795 in St Mary's County, MD m: June 05, 1815 >in Washington Co, KY d: Bef. 1832 in Prob Washington Co, KY Father: >Charles Buckman Mother: Jane "Jennie" Dunbar >..2 Unknown Mattingly b: Abt. 1817 in Washington Co, KY >..2 Unknown Mattingly b: Abt. 1820 in Washington Co, KY >..2 W Mattingly b: Abt. 1824 in Washington Co, KY >..2 M Mattingly b: Abt. 1825 in Washington Co, KY >..2 J Mattingly b: Abt. 1827 >..2 Richard Mattingly b: Abt. 1830 in Washington Co, KY > d: Bef. 1850 in Prob Nelson Co, KY >*2nd Wife of George Mattingly: >.+Catherine Miles b: 1803 in Nelson Co, KY m: January 28, 1832 in Nelson Co, >KY > d: 1874 in Daviess Co, KY Father: Thomas Miles >..2 T Mattingly b: 1835 in KY >..2 F K Mattingly b: 1837 in KY >..2 James M Mattingly b: 1838 in Nelson Co, KY d: January 13, 1904 in >Nelson Co, KY >..2 Miles P Mattingly b: September 20, 1841 in Nelson Co, KY d: >January 12, 1914 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, >Daviess co, KY >......+Ruth E Hagan b: June 11, 1849 in Daviess Co, KY m: June 1874 in >Daviess Co, KY d: October 21, 1925 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater >Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY Father: Sylvestor Hagan Mother: >Rachel M Daviess >....... 3 Phillip O Mattingly b: February 13, 1877 in Daviess Co, KY > >....... 3 C Anna Mattingly >..2 Martin Spalding Mattingly b: September 27, 1843 in Nelson Co, KY > >......+Annie Belle Morland b: 1853 in KY m: 1879 in Daviess Co, KY >Father: Jesse P Morland Mother: Mary Adams >....... 3 Jesse Mattingly b: January 27, 1880 in Daviess Co, KY > >....... 3 Arthur F Mattingly b: June 17, 1882 in Daviess Co, KY > >..2 Emma C Mattingly b: 1847 in KY >..2 James E "Jim" Mattingly b: 1848 in KY > > > >==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== ><Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> >We also have the [email protected] >Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney >Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ >To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

Bob--- It will most helpful to learn of the parentage of this/these George Mattingly(s); please keep us informated if these parents are learned. Ralph Banks, Austin, TX

In a message dated 8/5/01 10:55:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Carol do you any children for this Joseph Mattenly?? Thanks, Cricket - >> Cricket, I'm busy with another research project & need to keep my focus & am doing PA research on other surnames. I may find time to ck some on him for Fort Pitt, that's Allegheney Co I think, will keep an eye out. I've just found something else on another Mattingly in PA = Found this in PA State Archives name search: From Every Name Index to Rupp's "History & Topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford, Adams & Perry Counties" PA. This is available on microfilm from LDS. James Mattingly pg 603, & John Carberry on pg 603. This prob of interest to Elizabeth who has Carberry in her Mattingly line from DC & WV. Carol in WA

Thanks Carol I will keep looking too. Cricket ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MATTINGLY] Re: Joseph Mattenly in Rev War

Carol do you any children for this Joseph Mattenly?? Thanks Cricket ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: [MATTINGLY] Re: Joseph Mattenly in Rev War > I found this on a site for PA State Archives. If you have any Rev. War > soldiers > from PA this site should have records of them. I check a lot of surnames & > found my relatives. http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ > > Joseph Mattenly, rank Private, in Lt. Wm Withers Co. of Rangers. Enlisted > 30th Oct to present, Fort Pitt, 14 Feb 1779. > > > ==== MATTINGLY Mailing List ==== > <Z>WELCOME TO THE MATTINGLY GENEALOGY GROUP<Z> > We also have the [email protected]s.com > Your Host Website http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney > Rootsweb Host http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/m/a/MATTINGLY/ > To Unsubscribe or contact the List Owner [email protected] > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

I have two George Mattingly's in my data file that I am beginning to think might be one and the same. In Washington Co, KY on June 5, 1815, George Mattingly married Elizabeth Buckman, dau of Charles Buckman and Jane Dunbar. In Sister Donnelly's Buckman book she states that according to census records, they had 6 children, 4 sons and 2 daughters, only a son named Richard b. 1830 and baptized at St Charles Catholic Church in St Mary's. KY is named, the rest are unknown. This agrees with the 1820 and 1830 Washington Co, KY census which I am sure is her main source. But in 1840, there is no George in Washington but a very similar George is in Nelson Co, KY and has a younger wife, probably Catherine Miles. They are in the 1840 and 1850 Nelson Co, KY census and then the family is found in Daviess co, KY in 1860 minus George who has died on July 31, 1859 per William R Mattingly's recent e-mail information. Some of these children got dropped off along the way either in Washington, Nelson or Daviess Co but that is for another time. Not sure what happened to all these children but we have plenty of unresolved Mattingly's to accomodate these few. I'm still not sure who was the father of George Mattingly. Below are two sets of data, the first is the census listings from 1820 to 1860. The second is my Geroge Mattingly chart assuming that he marrried first Elizabeth Buckman per Washington Co, KY marriage records and secondly Catherine Miles per Nelson Co, KY marriage records. Bob Alvey 1820 Washingtom Co, KY George Mattingly 2 males 0/10 (1810 - 1820) ?,? 1 male 16/26 (1794 - 1804) George 1793 (close) 1 female 16/26(1794 - 1804) Elizabeth Buckman? abt 1795 if 20 when married 1830 Washington Co, KY George Mattingly 1 male 0/5 (1825 - 1830) Richard (1830) 2 male 5/10 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) & M (1825) 1 male 10/15 (1815 - 1820) ? 1 male 30/40 (1790 - 1800) George 1793 2 females 0/5 (1825 - 1830) J (1827) 1 female 30/40 (1790 - 1800) 1st wife (Elizabeth Buckman??) m. 6/6/1815 1840 Nelson Co, KY George Mattingly 3 males 0/5 (1835 - 1840) T (1835), F 1837), M (1839) 2 males 10/15(1825 - 1830) M (1825), Richard (1830) 1 male 15/20 (1820 - 1825) W (1824) 1 male 20/30 (1810 - 1820) ? 2 males 40/50(1790 - 1800) George 1793, ? 1 female 0/5 (1835 - 1840) ? 2 females 5/10(1830 - 1835) ?,? 1 female 10/15(1825 - 1830) F (1827) 1 female 30/40(1800 - 1810) Catherine 1805 (m. 1/28/1832) 1850 Nelson Co, KY George 57 1793 M All KY C 47 1803 F W 26 1824 M M 25 1825 M J 20 1830 F T 15 1835 M F 13 1837 M M 11 1839 M S 9 1841 F M 8 1842 M Martin 6 1844 M E 3 1847 F J 2 1848 M 1860 Daviess Co, KY Household 37 F K Mattingly 24 1836 M J M Mattingly 22 1838 M Fk & JM are living with a Brown family as farm labor Is this the FK and JM mentioned in George's will? Household 47 Catherine 55 1805 F KY Widow of George who dies in 7/31/1859 P M 18 1842 F S/b Miles P male b. 9/20/1841 Martin S 16 1844 M Emma C 14 1846 F Jim E 12 1848 M There might be others but I am trying to find common ground for George Mattingly to be the husband of both Elizabeth Buckman and Catherine Miles. Descendants of George Mattingly 1 George Mattingly b: 1793 in Washington Co, KY d: July 31, 1859 in Daviess Co, KY .+Elizabeth Buckman b: Abt. 1795 in St Mary's County, MD m: June 05, 1815 in Washington Co, KY d: Bef. 1832 in Prob Washington Co, KY Father: Charles Buckman Mother: Jane "Jennie" Dunbar ..2 Unknown Mattingly b: Abt. 1817 in Washington Co, KY ..2 Unknown Mattingly b: Abt. 1820 in Washington Co, KY ..2 W Mattingly b: Abt. 1824 in Washington Co, KY ..2 M Mattingly b: Abt. 1825 in Washington Co, KY ..2 J Mattingly b: Abt. 1827 ..2 Richard Mattingly b: Abt. 1830 in Washington Co, KY d: Bef. 1850 in Prob Nelson Co, KY *2nd Wife of George Mattingly: .+Catherine Miles b: 1803 in Nelson Co, KY m: January 28, 1832 in Nelson Co, KY d: 1874 in Daviess Co, KY Father: Thomas Miles ..2 T Mattingly b: 1835 in KY ..2 F K Mattingly b: 1837 in KY ..2 James M Mattingly b: 1838 in Nelson Co, KY d: January 13, 1904 in Nelson Co, KY ..2 Miles P Mattingly b: September 20, 1841 in Nelson Co, KY d: January 12, 1914 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY ......+Ruth E Hagan b: June 11, 1849 in Daviess Co, KY m: June 1874 in Daviess Co, KY d: October 21, 1925 in Daviess Co, KY Burial: Mater Dolorosa Catholic Cemetery, Daviess co, KY Father: Sylvestor Hagan Mother: Rachel M Daviess ....... 3 Phillip O Mattingly b: February 13, 1877 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 C Anna Mattingly ..2 Martin Spalding Mattingly b: September 27, 1843 in Nelson Co, KY ......+Annie Belle Morland b: 1853 in KY m: 1879 in Daviess Co, KY Father: Jesse P Morland Mother: Mary Adams ....... 3 Jesse Mattingly b: January 27, 1880 in Daviess Co, KY ....... 3 Arthur F Mattingly b: June 17, 1882 in Daviess Co, KY ..2 Emma C Mattingly b: 1847 in KY ..2 James E "Jim" Mattingly b: 1848 in KY

Joe, I have no idea what the name of the wife James Vessells, Sr is, I just show it as Unknown. I do know that on the Washington Co, KY marriage records a James Vessels marries an Eleanor Mattingly on Nov 3, 1808. In the 1860 Meade Co, KY census, James Vessells is listed age 76 b. KY with Ellen age 74 b. KY. Gerald Thompson in his book "KY Catholic Pioneers, Volume 1, The Rolling Fork Settlement" has this listing for James Vessels, Jr. James Vessells, Jr b. 1780 to James Vessells, Sr. In the 1810 Washington Co, KY census, James Jr is listed as between 26-45 years of age & his wife between 16-26 years of age with a son under ten years of of age. See 1850 Washington Co census and the 1860 Meade Co census. Her married Eleanor Mattingly b. abt 1786, dau of Joseph & Hessina Hinton Mattingly bond dated 11/9/1808 married on 11/9/1808 by Charles Nerinckx, father of John ca 1803/1808, Edward abt 1811, Walter abt 1815, Lucinda abt 1828 and Washington abt 1830. I wonder if John was really born before 1808 if James Vessells, Jr was married prior to Eleanor Mattingly? Bob Alvey Someone in my wife's family has done research on the Cissell clan. > They have an Eleanor Mattingly b.abt1740 who m. James Vessells,Sr > who had a daughter Mary that married Jeremiah Cissell.Their first daughter > was named Eleanor for her mother which makes sense. > Most have Eleanor marrying James Vessels,Jr and born later. > Any help on this? > Joe Mattingly > Nelson Co,Ky. >

Someone in my wife's family has done research on the Cissell clan. They have an Eleanor Mattingly b.abt1740 who m. James Vessells,Sr who had a daughter Mary that married Jeremiah Cissell.Their first daughter was named Eleanor for her mother which makes sense. Most have Eleanor marrying James Vessels,Jr and born later. Any help on this? Joe Mattingly Nelson Co,Ky.

Thanks Carol, I found two of my grandfathers, John Storm and John Braddock. What a neat thing to share, I really appreciate it. Judith Burger > I found this on a site for PA State Archives. If you have any Rev. War > soldiers > from PA this site should have records of them. I check a lot of surnames & > found my relatives. http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ > > Joseph Mattenly, rank Private, in Lt. Wm Withers Co. of Rangers. Enlisted > 30th Oct to present, Fort Pitt, 14 Feb 1779.

I found this on a site for PA State Archives. If you have any Rev. War soldiers from PA this site should have records of them. I check a lot of surnames & found my relatives. http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ Joseph Mattenly, rank Private, in Lt. Wm Withers Co. of Rangers. Enlisted 30th Oct to present, Fort Pitt, 14 Feb 1779.