Hi Janet You are correct. Sam, Albert and I have a closer common ancestor than the other three, but are all still from a common source. If we are correct in our best guess, Sam, Albert and I share William of 1702 but he had two wives. Sam and Albert are of one and I the other. Robert is related to a brother of William of 1702 and has in common with Sam, Albert and I one more generation back in"John" Moore Matlock of 1683. Edgar (who's results have not been published yet) and I are from the same William and wife but of we descend from different sons. M J is through (I THINK but am not proof positive) William's brother George of 1701... Which will make us all related to John Matlock of 1638 who first came here from England. Our known Matlack cousins from William of 1650 have yet to sign up (hint hint). Just a few of them would tie the "brothers" John and William together once and for all OR send us all back to the library for another look see. But the two most exciting kit results have not yet been returned for published. JOHN MEDLOCK # 18634 Newton Medlock 1831 SC-1920AR. This line is stopped cold with the unproven and mysterious John of about 1811. When these results are published a very exciting new field will open up. BUT the biggest excitement must be for KIRK B MATLICK # 20569 Joseph Matlack 1753-1795 PA. When this kit results come we will either see a branch of the family restored or we will need to search for a new immigrant. Don't let the R1a or b results get to you. These results are for much further back than any of us are likely to work on . Being only one number off on one and each a different chromosome is not a variance of sufficient degree for great worry. hope this and below helps... Joe Matlock DYS#KitNameH a p l o3 9 33 9 01 93 9 13 8 5 a3 8 5 b4 2 63 8 84 3 93 8 9 | 13 9 23 8 9 | 24 5 84 5 9 a4 5 9 b4 5 54 5 44 4 74 3 74 4 84 4 94 6 4 a4 6 4 b4 6 4 c4 6 4 d14104M J Medlock-132415111115111211131330179101111251519291515161714380Leonard Medlock-132515101115111211131330179101111251519291515161713801Robert Lee Medlock-132515111115111211131330169101111251519291515161712569Samuel Willis Medlock-132515111115111211131330179101111251519291515161714350Albert Ronell Medlock-132515111115111211131330179101111251519291515161714482Joe W. Matlock-1325151111151112111313301791011112515192915151617 DYS 19 is also known as DYS 394 Distance Relatedness Explanation 0 Related Your perfect 25/25 match means you share a common male ancestor with a person who shares your surname (or variant). These two facts demonstrate your relatedness. 1 Related You share the same surname (or a variant) with another male and you mismatch by only one 'point' on only one marker. For most closely related and same surnamed individuals, the mismatch markers are usually either DYS 439 or DYS 385 A, 385 B. from our first panel of 12 markers, and on the following from the second panel: DYS #'s 458 459 a 459b 449, 464 a-d, which have shown themselves to move most rapidly. The probability of a close relationship is very high. http://www.familytreedna.com/ >>> Janet Cook <jcook@usroots.com> 4/20/2004 11:06:23 AM >>> My simplistic mind is screaming out for understanding of the DNA tests that have been done on this surname and it's variations. I've spent the last few days trying to get a clear understanding of what the info is revealing but I'm as confused as ever! It looks to me like all six tests show a common ancestor - some with the probability within fairly close generations. Am I interpreting this correctly? If so, how can #14380 be R1a and the others be R1b with only one number different. Then there is #14104 who is listed as R1b but he has one number different from the other R1bs. Neither of these mismatch on the "usual" markers and I realize the connection could be many generation distant, but . . . Surely, I'm not the only one confused here. And I hope we're not being led down a primrose path. Also, there will be another kit result revealed in about 4 weeks. Janet Joe Matlock wrote: > > Great to hear. > It will take about six weeks or so to get it back, but it will tie down > the connection once and for all. We may not know who but we will know > it exists. > ==== MATLOCK Mailing List ==== To access the MATLOCK-L ARCHIVES:go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> To read a copy of the ROOTSWEB Appropriate Use Policy go to <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html>