Hi everyone, Wow! Lots of interest and I am glad.... my own forays into the world of Melungeons is looking better and better... First of all, I wanted to be sure we all get in on this, so I am posting this reply to the list even tho Melissa sent it to me off-list. Here are excerpts of what I found on Black Dutch at Ancestry.com: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/2528.asp Start Your Engines: The Right Tool for the Right Search Rhonda R. McClure ...I was asked to locate information on the Black Irish. A similar question in the past on the Black Dutch had led me on quite an adventure, so it was with enthusiasm that I began the search for the answer to the question: Who are the Black Irish? ...Black Irish Theories My research surprised me. I found that there is much confusion about the origin of the Black Irish. One theory maintains that these dark Irish and Irish-Americans are descended from members of the Spanish Armada who married into Irish families. In autumn of 1588, approximately seven hundred Spanish sailors were aboard the Felicima Armada that shipwrecked on the northern and western coasts of Ireland. A small number of those sailors did manage to make it to the coast and survive. However, there were not enough survivors to support a new interracial groupnot one that would leave its mark on descendants some four hundred years later. Another theory stems from the Irish slaves who were taken to the Caribbean island of Montserrat during the time of Cromwell. The Black Irish are said to be the descendants of these Irish immigrants and the Black slaves that lived there. A possible case could be made for this theory, as the descendants that live there today are said to speak with an Irish accent. However, like the Black Dutch, the term "black" may be of American creation. The term is not used much in Ireland itself. And much of what is claimed to be known of the Black Irish appears to be primarily conjecture... Do go read through the links I sent if you are interested in this topic... there is LOTS of GOOD info out there. From the book I bought, "Melungeons, yesterday and today" by Jean Patterson Bible, the primary surnames between 1830 and 1850 are: BEAN, BOLIN, BOWLING, BUNCH, COLE, COLLINS, DELP, GIBSON, GIPSON, GOEN, GOODMAN, GOWINS, HALE, JONES, MINOR, MOORE, MOSELEY, MULLINS, NICHOLS, SEXTON, WILLIAMS If any of these families married MATLOCKS, we are on to something! More later... Jana -----Original Message----- From: Melissa Hill Dees [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:23 AM To: Jana Black Subject: Re: [MATLOCK-L] Melungeon Matlocks Dear Jana: I could not find the article you mentioned regarding "Black Dutch" at www.ancestry.com. I don't have any information on this regarding my MEDLOCKs; however, my grandfather NEISLER always said we were part "Blackfoot Dutch". Is this the same thing? If you could tell me how to find the article, I would appreciate it. Thanks. Melissa Hill Dees Decatur, AL (Mine) HILL, NEISLER, MANSFIELD, HALL, HALEY, SEXTON, FULLER, SHELTON, ONLEY, DARNALL (His) DEES, EVANS, SENSABAUGH, MEDLOCK, LONGWORTH, SMITH, UNDERWOOD, POWELL, POOLE ----- Original Message ----- From: Jana Black <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: [MATLOCK-L] Melungeon Matlocks > Hello everyone, > > I am fresh back from GenTech 2001 where I was able to buy a book on the > Melungeons - it is fascinating!!! Good old Richard Matlock/Medlock certainly > lived in the right locality to be part of this ethnic group! I know that the > folks on this list are open-minded enough to view this as an important area > of our common genealogy to untangle just like everything else we have > covered and worked on ... Obviously, the information will be relevant to > some MATLOCK lines (like mine, mebbe) and not to others... In any case, > there is definitely evidence of Melungeon Matlock family members. Here is > what I have found so far: > > There is a Melungeon mailing list here if any of you want to subscribe: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic/Melungeon.html I just > subscribed and it is a BUSY list... In searching the archives of the list, > here is what I find regarding MATLOCKS so far: > > The Douglas Register" by Rev. William Douglas > Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc. Baltimore, Maryland 1966 > Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 66-30367: > > page 92: WASH, Lucy, & Zachariah Matlock, both in Louisa Dec 7 1780 > PULHAM, James, & Agnes Matlock 5 March 1781. > Jas PULHAM & Agnes Matlock - Lucy born Mar. 5 1781 Baptized Ap. 9 1781 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Phipps-TN Marriages Brides: > Matlock, D. F. > Phipps, Margaret > Jun 1, 1842 > Dickenson, TN > Source FTM Archive CD# 229 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >From a post: > Here is the info I have on Capt. Van SWEARINGEN. Van SWEARINGEN was born > about 1743 in Edgecombe Co., NC. He later moved to Anson Co., NC and > finally settled in Edgefield District, SC (these are the old counties, so > they may not correspond to the modern counties by the same name). Van > married Rachel (possibly CLOUD) in 1775. Van registered for military > service in Edgefield and reached the rank of Captain. Van died in 1808, > Rachel after 1810. They had the following children: > > 1) Joel SWEARINGEN > +____ BETTIS 2nd Susanna COTTEN > 2) William SWEARINGEN > +Nancy SPURLOCK > 3) Van SWEARINGEN (b abt 1777) > 4) Moses SWEARINGEN (b 1786) > 5) John SWEARINGEN > 6) Eli SWEARINGEN (b abt 1789) > 7) Zilpha SWEARINGEN > +____ HARGROVE > 8) Milley SWEARINGEN (b abt 1778) > +Stephan MEDLOCK <------------- > 9) Francis SWEARINGEN > +Alfred HACTHER > 10) Ancel SWEARINGEN > +Hampton MIMS > 11) Margaret Ann SWEARINGEN (b 1790) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Another post: > I just recently found out that my aunt's Great Grand-Mother was Black Dutch. > I really do not know what this means and am looking for enlightenment. My > aunt's name was Cora Josephine MEDLOCK. She died July 13, 1980, TN. She > was married to Raymond Douglas CROW in Tennessee. > > If anyone can inform me about this relationship and the Black Dutch, I would > greatly appreciate it. Thank you, John W. Turner ([email protected]) > > RESPONSE: There is an article concerning Black Dutch at: > http://www.ancestry.com/ It is under Ethnic Research, hope that helps you. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > David Sparks b: May 19, 1794 in NC d: November 10, 1862 in Delta, Clay, > AL. > married Permelia Medlock b: 1791 in 1876 m: December 15, 1811 in > Morgan Co. GA > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Also, from my newly found Matlock cousin, Sue, here are some websites to > look over: > http://rosecity.net/cherokee/blackdutch.html > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/Black_Dutch_America > http://www.murrah.com/gen/redbones.htm > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For more information on Melungeon Health Issues: > http://www.melungeonhealth.org > MELUNGEON CENTRAL..... a new GenConnect Board for Melungeon Research > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/Special/Melungeon > Battles in Red, Black and White > Virginia Racial Integrity Law 1924 > http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/POCA/POC_law.html > The Melungeon Registry > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/5649/melunreg.htm > The Silicon Holler: http://www.appalnet.org/ > [[[[[[[Virginia Racial Law Timeline:]]]]]]]]] > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjohnso/amh.txt > [[[[[[[Jeff Weaver's New River Valley Notes;]] > http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm > The Melungeon List Homepage by Martha Short: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/3778/ > For a list of Melungeon Links > http://cresswells.com/alhn/melung/index.html > > I am beginning to formulate a theory that perhaps the 1st wife of Richard > that everyone mentions but no one names may have been Melungeon and her info > was simply skipped due to prejudices... It would certainly help us all to > get this figured out! I intend to continue to research this and think it > would be just delightful to learn who all those 13-14 children of Richard's > were and which mother they went to. It has already been suggested to me that > the reason his branch went to Indiana was that Indiana was a free state... I > find this all just fascinating... hope you do as well! > > Jana Black > Listowner, MATLOCK-L > > > ==== MATLOCK Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, email [email protected], use > no subject line and write only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. > You will receive email confirmation that you have been unsubscribed.