John Good to here from you again...I knew that there had to be some one who had commented on DR. Matlock's work. As I noted when I put a copy of the chart from his work on the list, I disagree with some of his work. I begin checking your transcript of the Treadwell comments against my copy of the Dr.'s work and found that some of the comments had been taken to heart. There are dates that now agree with the notes. However I am still confused on how many family groups went to Mississippi and when. (The Treadwell notes mix the children of the groups). My current thinking (but I am flexible) is that we have two groups who unfortunately have the same names (but show me a Matlock family without a James or William). After reading through the Treadwell comments this morning I thought I would check further. Unfortunately Franklin county, Tennessee marriage records only exist before 1835 as a restoration; the originals having been destroyed. The only Matlocks listed are James Matlock to Helene Gray 13 oct 1835 and John Matlock to Eliza Williams 1832 in Salem Tn. The records of the cemetery mention in Dr. Matlock's work would be easy enough to check if they had not published and copyrighted in 1984 and are not available on line. If William Huston Matlock (14 Jan 1819 - 7 Jul 1878) who married Lucy Moore did not exits but was William Henry; then why create or remember an incorrect middle name. After all Gen. Houston's youngest sister was named Eliza...unfortunately she married a Dr. Samuel Moore 21 July 1821 in Blount County, Tn. However there is more than one Sam Houston and more than one Eliza. Blount County marriage alone list Eliza, Elizabeth and two Betsey's...so the name may well be correct but the relationship wrong. I am going to check with the Franklin County government to see if they have a list of county judges. If so checking who served should be easy. I will get back to you on that. While I am not ready to give up on the DR.'s work I must admit that it exhibits some confusion. I just called Franklin county; the cemetery records and the county court records are in the TSLA here and maybe I can get there and look it up. I will let you know what I find. If and this is a big if; if this is all incorrect then who are the people of the even earlier generations. Who is the John Matlock 1715 -1788 who married Rachel Spotswood? and further back??? thanks for the help Joe Matlock >>> "John M. Matlock" <[email protected]> 09/26/00 08:47PM >>> This is typed word for word and dates have been douple checked. Tennessee Matlock's Franklin Co., Tn. Comments by J. W. Treadwell concerning a manuscript prepared by Dr. J.W.L. Matlock entitled, "The Matlock Family of Tennessee". dated 1972 and bears a typed notation, "For Sharing", a/longhand notation "Since this information has come from so many different sources, accuracy can not be guaranteed." It contains six pages with marginal numbers for clarity. Family. Conflicting accounts. 11.2 page 1 - Richard Matlock died in Hawkins Co., Tenn. 4 Nov. 1847. See CSA pension file W-25701. Wife Mary Widdle was living in Indiana in Apr. 1854. Issue unknown to me. 11.3 page 1 - David Matlock- There must be errors here. See History of Maries Co., Mo. History of the Sevier Family. Will in Washington Co., Tenn. 11.4 page 2 - Jason Matlock b. in Va. July 18, 1769, d. Roane Co., Tenn. Nov. 29, 1848. His son Jason Jr. was the first pastor of the Baptist Church of Benton, Tenn. 11.1 page 2 - William Matlock (11) m. Sarah Dodson, Dec. 23, 1817. Lived in Benton Co. before removing to McMinn Co., Tenn. where he d. Dec. 20, 1844.Chas. L. King and J.B. Eldridge were appt Adms on Jan. 7, 1845. This will mentions C.L. Matlock and Nancy Ann Matlock minors, and Widow Sarah, wife of Thos. B. McElwee, Sa4rah, wife of Joseph W. Gibson, Sorenda, wife of John B. Eldridge, Nancy wife of Wm. Peak of Meigs Co. 11.2 page 2 - Henry Matlock b. 1797 m. Nancy Rice in Roane Co. d. in 1851 in McMinn Co. His will was executed June 10, 1847, mentioned his wife Nancy, sons Charles, Henry, Geo. Washington and John W., daus. Martha, Elizabeth, Nancy Jane )a minor) and Sarah wife of Albertus Arnwine. In the report to the Court in June 1858 it is found that the widow Nancy d. in June 1857, dau. Nancy m. (age 19) James P. Senter in 1858, Chas. had died without issue, Henry, George Washington was b. 1837, John W. was b. 1823, Martha, wife of Wm. Purcell, Sarah, wife of Albertus Arwine, and Elizabeth wife of John H. Luty, of Georgia, were suvivors in 1858. Note: William Matlock who m. Sarah in Roane Co. d. in McMinn Co. had Three brothers Charles, John and Henry. There may have been a James but we did not find a record of one by that name. 111.3 page 2 - James Jason Matlock b. 1799. There must be an error here. ????. Have not been able to find a James Madison Matlock who could have been a brother to Wm. (11). Nor did we find a James Matlock who could have been a brother, nor did we find a James or James Madison who m. Elizabeth Ann Houston or who lived in Franklin Co., Tenn. except the James Matlock who was a brother of Wm. who married Mary E......? This James had a wife Mary .....? b. in Tenn. Feb. 23, 1793 and who d. in DeSora Co., Miss. May 4, 1858 amd is buried in Edminston Cemetery, Southhaven, Miss. (The folowing is in handwriting at the bottom of page 1. JMM) Mrs. Armstrong, Please see your copy of the report Dr. J.W.L. Matlock sent you. This does not jibe. The data herein is from Wilk or other probate court records and should be reliable. ______________________________ Re. your question on the last page of Vol. 1, No. 1, of They Multiplied. Am sure you know Chas. and Isreal Matlock lived in Anson Co., N.C. at oeast as early as May, 1768. Names appear on deeds and petitions in Anson Co. Court records. They signed a petition Oct. 23, 1779, requesting the division of Anson Co. along Pee Dee River to form Anson and Richmond Co. Name appeared in many court records. The last I noticed was in 1782. Stephen Treadwell, my ancester was there at the same time - He was off into Montgomry Co. when it was formed. He was a Lt. in the Rev. War. Chas. Matlock was a Major and Col. J. W. Treadwell (Page 2) 111.3 page 2 - Continued In 1824 to 1828 a James Matlock and his brother William Matlock bought and or was granted land on Boiling Fork or Elk River and on Beans Creek, Dry Creek, Cumberland and Painted Rock. William Matlock whose wife was Mary E. sold his land in Franklin Co., Tenn. Dec. 19, 1829 but stayed in Franklin Co. untill after the Federal Census of 1830. Both William and James appear as head of household in Franklin Co., Tenn. in 1830. Soon after 1830 William and his family went to Madison Co., Miss. The first recorded purchase of land was Feb. 1832. There is a letter in the Court files of Madison Co., Miss. signed by Mrs. Mary E. Matlock, addressed to Judge Callaghan asking that her husbands brother James Matlock be appointed as Adm. of her deceased husband's estate. The files show that James handled the estate untill his death possiblt in Aug. 1836, or at least between May and Sept. 1836. Williams death occurred Dec. 19, 1832. I failed to show this when I mentioned Mary E. letter to Judge Callahan. Mary Matlock, wife of James wrote Judge Callahan on Sept. 1, 1836 that her husband James had died and that she wanted her nephew James Madison Matlock to handle her deseased husband's estate, as she could not handle it and that she thought her nephew was well able to manage it. James M. (who m. Helen Gray in 1835) bacame the Adm. of his uncle James Matlock's estate and at the same time became the Adm. of his father's estate and was appointed guardian of the minor children of his uncles James and minors brothers and sisters, except one, William Henry, who evidently stayed in Franklin Co., Tenn. Most of the time and wanted John J. Hayter to be his guardian. (Written Note: Ck. White Co. for Hayter) The Madison Co., Miss. Probate Court records are very domplete and well cared for by the County Clerk. Those in DeSota are also good. Information I have reference to the families of James and William Matlock came from these Court reco5rds and deed in addition to deed and marrage records in Franklin Co., Tenn. These records definitely fix names and dates for members of James and his brother William. James Matlock of Franklin Co., Tenn. date and location of his birth is unknown to me, died in Madison Co., Miss. about August 1836. He may have been married more than one time. His wife at the time of his death was Mary....? b. Tenn. Feb. 23, 1793, died in DeSota Co., Miss. May 4, 1858. She is buried in the Edminston Cemetery, on State Line Road, South Haven, Miss. Her son, John H. is buried beside her. DeSota Co. deed records prove that this John H. was a son of this Mary and James. Children of James Matlock of Franklin Co., Tenn. James M. b. about 1820, m. Mary Jane Dyer, May 9, 1839, in Franklin Co., Tenn. Died in DeSota Co., Miss. in 1854. His father-in-law Edmund Dyer was appointed Administrater of his estate by the Probate Court of DeSota Co. It is possible that his widow Mary Jane married S.M. Thomas, in DeSota Co. Sept. 27, 1856. (Written in at the bottom of page 2, on left hand side) James d. 1836 & Mary- Franklin Co. 1840 b. 1793, d. 5-4-1858 James M. Ca. 1820, d. 1854 Thos. Jefferson ca. 1821 Elizabeth Ann 1822 Charles N. ca. 1827 <.. d. 1854 James H. 1825 . (There is an arrow from 1854 to 1827.JMM) 1829 < ....... (at the bottom: bound to have had a Wm.) (Written at the bottom of page 2, middle column) Charles Henry b. 1814 & Mary-in Miss 1840 John S. 1838 Wm. A. 1839 Jas 1840 Charles F. 1842 Thos J. 1843 Robt. F. 1845 Nancy Louisa 1846 Harriet Susan 1848 John Augustas 1849 Minnie Tenn. 1851 Margaret Elizabeth 1852 Eramus Edwin 1854 Sarah Alexander 1857 Mary Virginia 1862 (Written at the bottom of page 2, right hand column.) Wm. d. 1832 & Mary E.-in Miss. 1840 Sarah m. 1831 ca. 1815 John D. m. 1834 - ca 1813 1827 James Madison 1811 Letha J. m. 1835 - ca. 1817 Wm. Henry m. 1840 - b. 1818 Thomas J. m. Mary A. m. Andrew J. b. 1829 Chas. H. b. 1831 (Note: the above three columns are side by side in the position described with lines running across from left to right, connecting names in some of each of the three columns.) Page 3. Comments on Tenn. Matlock's-continued Children of James Matlock of Franklin Co., Tenn. James M. begun signing legal papers as James M. Jr. after the death of his father James and after his cousin James M., son of Wm. and Mary E., was appointed Adm. of his fathers extate and as his guardian. The Jems M., son of Wm. and Mary E. was frequently refered to as James M. Sr. Thos. Jefferson b. about 1821, d. in 1843 or 1844, unmarried. He joined the Masonic Lodge in Hernando, Miss. in 1843, he was 21 or older at that time. Elizabeth Ann b. about 1822 m. Joseph Taylor in Franklin Co., Tenn. July 27, 1839. He died possibly in DeSota Co. in 1843. James M., son of Wm. was named Adm. of his estate. Elizabeth Ann then married a Mr. Anderson. John H. b. Fwb. 1825 (Son of Mary) d. Feb. 26, 1861. Married Mary Chambles and had one child a son, John H. Jr., b. Nov. 8, 1860. John H. Jr. and his wife are buried in Edminston Cem. Chas N. b. about 1827, d. about 1854 in DeSota Co., Miss. (written in at the side, "N or W ? m. Blassingame) Note: James of Franklin Co., Tenn. did not have a son Wm. Houston pr Wm.-- any other name who married Lucy E. Moore. Lucy E. Moore m. William Henry Matlock son of Wm. and Mary E. The James of Franklin Co., Tenn. definitely had a brother William but he was not the William son of William (11,1), who married Sarah Dodson and moved to McMinn, Co. This James' brother Wm. was the one who m. Mary E....? and the one who died in Madison Co., Miss. Dec. 19, 1832. Children of William and Mary E....? I don't know the order of birth. I have not found a record of the parents of either William or Mary E. nor where or when they were born. I don't know the dates of marrages, nor date of Mary. E. death. She possibly died in DeSota Co., after 1843. She does not show in the 1850 census. Sarah m. James M. Wadlington Dec. 7, 1831, Madison Co., Miss. James D. m. Caroline McGinty Oct. 7, 1834, Madison Co. Evidently John D. d. between 1834 and 1839 as Mrs. Caroline Matlock m. David Briscoe June 8, 1839 in Madison Co. James Madison b. 1811 m. Helena Gray Oct. 13, 1835, in Franklin Co., Tenn. They left Franklin Co. on the 15th for Miss. From her father's diary. Lethe J. m. John D. Petty Apr. 25, 1835 in Madison Co., Miss. Wm. Henry m. Lucy E. Moore Jan. 30, 1840 in Franklin Co., Tenn. Thomas Jefferson m. Mary....? who died in Des Arc, Ark. Oct. 12, 1852. They had a daughter Leah J. b. in N.C. and a son Julian Jefferson b. in N.C., both became wards of Wm. and Lucy E. in Franklin Co., Tenn. by order of the Court in 1856. Thos. J. d. in Ringold Co., Ga. Nov. 1, 1856 (Written in- See National Archive File- Florida & Indian Wars for Thos J.) Mary A. m. Martin W. James in 1843, DeSota Co., Miss. Page 4 Children of Wm. and Mary E. --? continued. Andrew J. n. 1829 m. Caroline Robins Oct. 8, 1850, Shelby Co., Tenn. He served in the Civil War from Arkansas. His name appears on the 1860 Census of Jacksonport, Ark. ( Now Jackson Co., Ar. JMM) Charles H. b. 1831, m. Mary ---? His name appears on the 1860 Census of Augusta, Ark. (Now Woodruff Co., Ar. JMM), as head of a household and as a physican. He served in the Civil War as a Lt. Col. and as a Col. He was captured by the Federsls, imprisoned at Johnson Islkand, Ohio, where he died. His body was sent to Memphis. 111.4 page 2 I have no knowledge of this family. IV.4 page 2 This James Madison b. about 1818 to 1820 was a son of a James Matlock who d. in Madison Co., Miss. about Aug. 1836. This James was not the James H. (111.3) son of William (11.1). The James M. son of James of Franklin Co. did not serve in the Civil War. He died in DeSota Co., Miss. in 1854. His father-in-law, Edmund Dyer was named adminstrater of his estate. It is possible that his widow Mary Jane is the Mary J. Matlock who married S.M. Thomas, Sept. 27, 1856 in DeSota Co. V. 2 page 3. There is not any record of a Wm. Houston Matlock, son of a James Madison, having married Lucy E. Moore. The recorded amd proven records in Franklin Co., Tenn. and in Madison Co., Miss. show that the Wm. H. who married Lucy E. Moore, was William Henry Matlock, the son of William and Mary E. ....? This Wm. H. lived in Franklin Co. and was a ward of John J. Hayter (Possibly his uncle.) before he married. (He later married). He sold everything he had even his house furnishings and went to Miss. where his brother James N. and the rest of the family and his uncle James was located. He stayed there a very short 5time before returning to Franklin Co., Tenn. where he lived out his life and had a large family. I V.3 page 3. Elizabeth Ann - dau. of James, m. Joseph Taylor, July 27, 1839, in Franklin Co., Tenn. Joseph died about 1842. Either in Franklin Co., Tenn. or in DeSota Co., Miss. Her cousin James M. was the ADM. of Joseph Taylor's estate, under direction of the Probate Court of DeSota Co., Miss. It appears that she married a Mr. Anderson about 1844. I V. 4 page 3. No record of a Julian Jefferson, son of James M. Matlock Sr. (111.3), grandson of Wm. (11.1). Julian Jefferson, son of Thomas J. and grandson of Wm. and Mary E. ...? who was a ward of Wm. H. and Lucy E. Matlock. He served in the Civil War. V. 1 page 3 Wm. Dyer Matlock was the son of Wm. Henry Matlock and a grandson of Wm. and Mary E. ...? Page 5 Comments on Matlocks in Tenn., continued V.3 page 4 Mary E., the dau. of Wm. Henry Matlock, grandaughter of Wm. and Mary E. ...? was b. in Miss. The only child of Wm. Henry and Lucy E. Matlock, to be b. outside of Franklin Co., Tenn. She was born while they were in Miss. chasin' the rainbow. Evidently he (James M.) was some what a plunger in land deals. (Ward Plantation in Miss., 6000 ac. of land in Dallas Co., Ark.). V.4 page 4 Leah Jane b. 1846 in N. C. was a sister of Julian Jefferson, dau. of Thos. J. and a ward of Wm. Henry Matlock. Note: V.6 page 4 to VI.9 page 6, was not checked. It was noted that in each family listing that a William, a James Madison Sr. or a William Houston is refered to as ancesters. Where Wm. Houston is named, it should be Wm. Henry and where James M. Sr. is named, it should be Wm. the husband of Mary E. ...?. I would like very much to learn the names of the parents of James and Wm. brother who came to Franklin Co., Tenn. in 1824 or earlier. The earliest record I have of them are deeds for sale for land on Boiling Fork of Elk River, on Beans Creek, Dry Creek and on Cumberland Mt. at Painted Rock between 1824 and 1828. John J. Hayter in Franklin Co. may have been a brother-in-law, possible a brother of Mary E. ...?. Edwin Street of Franklin Co., who died in DeSota Co., Miss. was possibly a spn- in law of Mary E. ...?. Remember that Wm. Henry did not stay with his mother and the others in Miss., because he was a Ward of John J. Hayter in Franklin Co., Tenn. Irt is some what unusual that James and Wm. who were so close togather should name their children almost the same. James had- James M., Thos. J., John H. and Chas. N. Wm. and Mary E. ...? had- James M., John D., Thomas J., Wm. H., Andrew J. and Chas. H.. J.W. Treadsell...x#x March, 17, 1974 I need help on locating the following James M. Matlock in Ms. 1860 and Tn. 1870. Phillips Co., Ar. 1850 St. Francis Twp. 17 Oct. Matlock James 32 Tn. Mary A. 27 Tn. (Nee: Floyd) M. T. 3 Miss. Page F. 1 Ark. Johnson, Lucinda 4 Tn. Owens, Solomon 19 Ia. (ia. ?) Owens, John 21 Ia. (ia. ?) Hardin Co., Tn. 1880 Dist. 16 3 & 4 June #43 - 45 James M. Matlock 62 Tn. Unk. Tn. Mary A. 53 Tn. N.C. Tn. (Nee: Floyd) Eliza 21 Miss. Tn. Tn. Lavina 17 Miss. Tn. Tn. Samuel J. 15 Tn. Tn. Tn. Jane Floyd 69 Tn. Unk. Unk. Mo- in-law This shows that the family should be in Miss. in 1860 and in McNairy Co., Tn. 1865. On an application, Samuel Jefferson said he was born in McNairy Co., Tn. Way back when, I read all the counties in the north half of Ms. Even after the Index came out they were not listed. Thanks, John M. 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