I have been thinking about this for the last week or so as too how or where the break down in the DNA chain came from. I followed the two Mattox links on the DNA page but the information was slim. I could not match any of the mem listed as being in the Carolinas or Tennessee with any of the know Matlock's in the area. Until I found the note on King's Mountain. I remembered then that I had found a short article on the battle there and the spelling of the list of participates which I include below. Can anyone identify any of the men below? Thanks Terry... Joe Matlock Descendants of John Matlock Generation No. 1 1. JOHN7 MATLOCK was born in Virginia. Notes for JOHN MATLOCK: "The claim of John's action at Kings Mountain with a force of Tennessee Militia under the leadership of John Seiver was previously not known to me and is best explained by the following from a report of chronology records received from Marie Matlock Harris 5 April 1994. This report is currently published on the family website. Ms Harris reports "John MADDOX [Before we say for sure this isn't one of our MEDLOCK --I have to tell you that John MATLOCK that died on King Mt. .... the scribe of who ever wrote his name, used the MATTOX spelling .. witting it --- MATL (crossing the T & L) MATTLO->then turning the C to form the back of the K == forming an X = MATLOCK = MATTOX. I probably would not have seen what they had done; except, for the word Buckskins --- I will never know why I ordered this mans will - on which I have to tell you; his brother spelled MATLOCK 7 so was his wife's name Rachel MATLOCK & his brother Charles MATLOCK - the word BUXSKINS - used the same form of writing, the "C" to form the back of the letter "K", thus BUCKSKINS = became BUXSKINS. This John MATTOC, is the John killed in the Kings Mt. Battle. He had 2 brothers - Charles and Edward. " The birth dates of his children would make him a very old man at the time of the battle and this claim continues to need work." SOUTH CAROLINA Submitted by Terry Gladfelter Mattox, Charles Mattox, Charles, Lieutenant Mattox, John, Captain (k) Camden Co., 1783 [SC Jury Lists, 1718-1783, p.84; Mary Warren; Heritage Papers]Benjamin Mattocks. COMMANDERS AT KINGS MOUNTAIN, by J. D. Bailey p. 191"CAPTAIN JOHN MATTOCKS" "He was another South Fork boy who was killed when the enemy made their bayonet charge down the hill, first firing off their guns. The only account we have of previous services rendered by Mattocks is that given by Major Thomas Young, when he helped to avenge the death of a young Captain Reid, who was treacherously murdered by two Tories---Love and Saddler. Says Young: 'We started, rode all night, halted in the day, kept watch in the woods, but slept not; the next night we arrived at old Love's. The house was attacked, and the door broken down by a powerful man by the name of Maddox, who was afterwards killed at King's Mountain. In staving open the door, he floored old Love and knocked some of his teeth out.' Young spells the name Maddox, instead of Mattocks, but the same person is referred to.''Captain Mattocks had a brother, Charles, who participated in the battle with him, and interceded for a Tory brother, Edward, who was severely wounded there, and cured of his Toryism. The family removed to Georgia after the war.""William Rabb and John Boyd" "These two privates were also killed in the early part of action, and they, with Major Chronicle and Captain Mattocks, are buried in one grave at the branch which is marked by the old monument. This monument was erected by Dr. William McLean of Lincoln county, at his expense, in 1815, and bears the following inscriptions: On the north side: 'Sacred to the memory of Major William Chronicle, Captain John Mattocks, William Rabb and John Boyd, who were killed at this place on the 7th of October, 1780, fighting in defense of America.' One the south side: ' Colonel Ferguson, and officer of his Britannic Majesty, was defeated and killed at this place on the 7th of October, 1780." SECOND ARMY CORPSSecond BrigadeBrig. Gen. Byron R. PierceMaj. Charles P. Mattocks Register of Virginians in the Revolution, Alphabetical Register of Virginians in the Revolution, Page 509 Mattock Nathaniel Ky PensMattock John Captain of VA Rangers Killed at Kings Mountain Oct 7 1780 WILLIAM MATTIX/MATTOCKS b.c. 1722 GENERATION 1 A. WILLIAM MATTOCKS1 b.c. 1722 CH: A1. EDWARD MATTOCKS, b.c. 1752 (see B below) A2. John Mattocks, b.c. 1754, d.1780 King's Mtn, Tyron/Lincoln/Gaston Co., NC A3. Charles Mattocksb.c. 1756, d. aft. 1780 Child of JOHN MATLOCK is: i. STEPHEN8 MATLOCK. >>> "Wanda Albers" <WandaR7@worldnet.att.net> 4/27/2004 12:26:07 PM >>> Joe, Well....in her work I'm wonder which one to go with. First she says they are Martin and Nancy's Then she says they are Martin's sister Nancy's children. Lastly she say they are children of Martin's first wife Nancy. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Matlock" <Joe.Matlock@state.tn.us> To: <BA044@aol.com>; <swmed@juno.com>; <terryg5@prodigy.net>; <WandaR7@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Edgar's DNA > These two I believe are his sister Nancy's children. > Joe Matlock > > Naomi Edwina Matlock Haacke says: > Thomas had three children, all born TN by Nancy and 5 children by > Barbara. > All children born TN except for Ransom Matlock. > > Thomas Martin Matlock was born in Washington County, Tennesse, to > Zachariah and Emily Paine Matlock. Earlier records show he was born in > 1798 and later ones show 1802. He married Nancy Mitchell on Feb. 4, 1822 > in Washington County and prior to her death in 1828, three children were > born to this marriage: Zachariah, Elizabeth and George. About 1829, > Martin married Barbara Rinehart of Sullivan County, Tennessee. Their > children were Lewis, Nancy, Susan, Eda, and Ransom. They moved to > Missouri in 1838, with Ransom being their only child born in Missouri. > Shortly after his parents had died, Martin and his brother, Isham Esau > and James Ransom, and their married sisters, Nancy Vaughn and Eady > Vaughn, as well as their children and in some cases their grandchildren, > moved to Missouri in one group, leaving their home in Tennessee on Sept. > 18, 1838. The group must have consisted of nearly 80 people and their > only mode of transportation was an ox cart. The family was scattered > throughout Crawford County with Martin first settling near what was > later Safe in the present Maries County. He later moved a few miles east > and lived in Phelps County, dying there about 1881. His sister Nancy, > wife of John George Vaughn, is the only one known to have spent ther > rest of her life in Maries County where she died in 188. > Living with the Martin Matlock family were two additional children: > George Washington "Wash" Matlock, born in 1819, and Sabina, born > in 1820. Wash married Sarah, the daughter of John Copeland, and after > her death, he married Elizabeth Harrison. He was postmaster at High > Grove at one time. He was the father of sixteen children, nine by his > first wife. Sabina had a son, Frank Goss, and then married John Hibler > and had seven children; they lived in Gasconade County. Researchers have > spent many hours trying to determine who these children's parents were. > Supposedly their mother's name was Nancy, and some believed them to be > the illegitimate children of Martin's sister, Nancy. However, she would > have been only fourteen when George Washinton was born, and they would > have likely lived with their mother (Nancy Vaughn) after her marriage. > It is possible they are the children of Nancy, the first wife of Martin > Matlock, and were born during a prevoouus marriage, or were her > illegitimate children. > Submitted by J. Hoyle Maxfield > "Maries County History" > > >>> "Wanda Albers" <WandaR7@worldnet.att.net> 4/27/2004 11:12:45 AM > >>> > > Joe, > > Who are you saying is Nancy's son? Perhaps we can track it that way. > I > don't have children list for Nancy. > > Wanda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Matlock" <Joe.Matlock@state.tn.us> > To: <BA044@aol.com>; <swmed@juno.com>; <terryg5@prodigy.net>; > <WandaR7@worldnet.att.net> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: Edgar's DNA > > > > Right > > Regardless of the male line through Moore and Zacariah any male line > > should have matched William of 1702. Which brings us back to the > > Nancy's; Martin's sister and one his wife. Nancy the sister has a > male > > child that would inherit the name but not the DNA or Nancy Martins's > > wife has a male child by a differnt man but gets the surname... > > Joe Matlock > > > > >>> <BA044@aol.com> 4/24/2004 9:30:22 PM >>> > > > > Well Wanda youve done a good Job! And I would have to believe that > > Edgars line doesnt connect to Any of Zacariahs Ancestors.. According > to > > the DNA reading.. > > > > > > > > > > > >