I must leave the attachment as "not proven" but based on John having been born at the right place and time, names a son Elijah and other references to ISHAM having a son named John. The likely hood of sure proof is most remote as ISHAM's own family is not known and cannot be connected with any of the prior groups. the attachment would be strengthen if JOHN had left some record himself referring to siblings or resident grandparents. Then there is the last name...members of this family group have used the name MEDLOCK. There are families records in England from prior to or nearly prior to the arrival of the family here, that spell the name MEDLOCK. The South Carolina branch of the MEDLOCK's may well be of independent origin. ISHAM's family may well have spelled the name MATLOCK but heard it pronounced or pronounced themselves as MEDLOCK. Either way we may be looking for a different family or an obscure branch which left few if any early records. The date of the wedding or the birth date may well be in error. Keeping in mind that Juliet was only 14, it might not be a birthday error of more than a year or two. What makes the chase so interesting is the appearance of information from people as yourself who have confirming evidence for the various bits and pieces. Thanks for the information, if I find anything new I will pass it along. Best regards Joe Matlock >>> <[email protected]> 11/21/00 03:06PM >>> John Matlock born before 1784 in Washington Co., Ky & died 1877 in Arkansas or Pineville, Missouri. In your notes you state that John Matlock's attachment to this family is not proven. I have seen John's connection to this family, as to him being the s/o Isham,who was born bef 1765, before and have never really been able to assure myself that he belongs here. the date of his marriage to 1st wife Mary Polly Jefferson, would make her about 13. their first child being born in 1809 leads me to wonder if the date of marriage is correct? I can supply you lots of information on the decendants of John, born 1820. If we can only figure out how to really tie him into this family of Ishams. Do you happen to remember how you connected him to this family? It has been a real stopping place for me. A lillte of what I have down through my husband Johnny Loyal Wahl; Direct Descendants of *John Matlock 1 *John Matlock 1789 - 1850 b: Abt. 1789 in Kentucky d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 in Carroll CO., Arkansas .. +*Mary Jefferson 1788 - 1860 b: Bet. 1788 - 1792 in Virginia d: Aft. 1860 in Carroll CO., Arkansas ..... 2 *John Matlock 1820 - 1895 b: 1820 in Crawford Co., Missouri d: August 13, 1895 in Boone Co., Arkansas ......... +*Emily Nobles 1823 - 1880 b: 1823 in Crawford CO., Missouri d: Bet. 1880 - 1883 in Boone Co., Arkansas Father: *Merritt Nobles Mother: *Milla ............. 3 *John Matlock 1859 - 1931 b: February 12, 1859 in Carroll (now) Boone Co., Arkansas d: May 18, 1931 in Bristow, Creek Co., Oklahoma ................. +*Paralee Coker 1860 - 1940 b: January 06, 1860 in Carroll (now) Boone Co., Arkansas d: September 09, 1940 in Kellyville,Creek Co., Oklahoma Father: *Edward Ned Coker Mother: *Demerse Glover .................... 4 *Minnie Estelle Matlock 1891 - 1970 b: February 17, 1891 in Lowry, Boone Co., Arkansas d: November 10, 1970 in Jenks, Tulsa Co., Oklahoma ........................ +*Henry George Wahl 1882 - 1936 b: December 09, 1882 in Williamstown, Dauphin Co., Pennsylvania d: May 07, 1936 in Lowry, Boone Co., Arkansas Father: *George Wahl Mother: *Mary Uhland ............................ 5 *George Willis Wahl 1926 - b: November 13, 1926 in Kellyville, Creek CO., Oklahoma ................................ +*Wanda Lou Rogers 1931 - b: May 30, 1931 in Okay, Wagoner CO., Oklahoma Father: *Volda Farley Rogers Mother: *Lillie Ann White ................................... 6 *Johnny Loyal Wahl 1954 - b: October 03, 1954 in Tulsa, Oklahoma ......... +*Demerse Glover 1840 - 1916 b: Abt. 1840 in Tennessee d: January 28, 1916 in Boone Co., Arkansas Father: *James Glover Mother: Elizabeth Any thing you can add will be greatly appreciated. How do you tie in ? Thanks Gladys