Wanda I missed your question about Samuel Mattock and Nolly being the ancestor of Asa Matlack. The line leading to Asa is William Matlack – Mary Hancock William Matlack – Ann Antrim William Matlack – Mary Turner Reuben Matlack – Elizabeth Cole Asa Matlack – Tamar Roberts All lived in New Jersey About the Kirk line. What I know comes from Joe. He can better speculate on that. Curt

Wanda You are correct again. This is what I have on Timothy, son of Benjamin. Curt Descendants of Timothy MATLACK Generation No. 1 1. TIMOTHY6 MATLACK (BENJAMIN5, JOHN4, WILLIAM3, GEORGE2 MATLOCK, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1763 in New Jersey, and died 1794 in Culpeper Co., Va.. He married HESTER ELDRIDGE December 19, 1785 in Evesham Township, Burlington Co., N. J., daughter of ABRAHAM ELDRIDGE and MARY LIPPINCOTT. Notes for TIMOTHY MATLACK: The following quote is recorded in the Wonderland - Matlack Family History. It is from the records of Asa Matlack, born in October 23, 1783. "Timothy Matlack of Benjamin and Jane Cheeseman Matlack was married 1786 to Hester, (Esther), Eldridge of Abraham and Mary and removed with his family in or about 1786 to Culpepper County Va. where my Uncle Samuel and father saw him and family at Culpepper Court House being (jailer) or keeper of the prison at that place in the 11th month of 1790. Timothy died at 31 years of age." Timothy changed the spelling of his name to Matlock in Virginia. His will is recorded in Will Book D, 1791 - 1803 (reel 32), page 135 - 136. His will was probated on 16 Sept. 1794. The Inventory & Appraisal was recorded on page 138 - 139 on 20 Oct. 1794. Notes for HESTER ELDRIDGE: Asa Matlack, see notes for her husband, spelled her name Esther. Her name is spelled Hester on her marriage certificate at the New Jersey Archives in Trenton New Jersey. Her name is recorded as Hestor Matlock in the 1810 census for Culpeper County, Va. She was over 45 and owned 4 slaves. No white people are listed as living with her. The 1820 census records Hestor living in Culpeper County, Virginia, She owned 4 slaves, 3 male and 1 female. Three people were engaged in manufacture. I assume these were the male slaves. Her name is recorded as Esther Matlack in the 1830 census for Culpeper County She owned 6 slaves, 1 male under 10, 3 females under 10, 1 female 10 to 24, and 1 female 36 to 55. The 1840 census records Esther living in Culpeper County. She owned 8 slaves, 2 males under 10, 1 male 10 to 24, 1 female under 10, 4 females 10 to 24, 1 female 24 to 35, and 1 female 36 to 55. Two people are listed as working in agriculture. Child of TIMOTHY MATLACK and HESTER ELDRIDGE is: i. JOSEPH7 MATLOCK. Notes for JOSEPH MATLOCK: Joseph's father changed his name from Matlack to Matlock when he moved to Virginia. Joseph's descendants probably spell their name Matlock. Page 106 of the 1810 census for Culpeper Co., Va. lists a Joseph Matlock, aged 16 to 25, living with his wife, also aged 16 to 25. Since the only Matlock's listed in the 1810 census for Culpeper Co. were Hestor Matlock, page 103, and Joseph Matlock, Joseph was probably the son of Hestor, widow of Timothy Matlock. The 1820 census for Culpeper Co. does not include Joseph, but a Joseph Matlock with two children was living in Orange Co. which is next to Culpeper Co.

Wanda I missed the second part of your message. John Matlack and Hannah Horner only had three children. Benjamin was the son of Mary Lee. Here is what I have on John Matlack and both his wives. Curt Descendants of John MATLACK Generation No. 1 1. JOHN4 MATLACK (WILLIAM3, GEORGE2 MATLOCK, JOHN1) was born 1683 in Gloucester County, New Jersey, and died 1765 in Waterford Township, Gloucester County, New Jersey. He married (1) HANNAH HORNER May 20, 1708 in Burlington County, New Jersey at house of Isaac Horner, daughter of ISAAC HORNER and LYDIA WRIGHT. She was born in Northampton Township, Burlington County, New Jersey. He married (2) MARY LEE 1721, daughter of FRANCIS LEE. She died 1764 in Haddonfield, Gloucester County, New Jersey. Children of JOHN MATLACK and HANNAH HORNER are: i. JACOB5 MATLACK, d. Bef. 1765; m. RUTH WOODOTH, November 15, 1733, Evesham Township, Burlington County, New Jersey. ii. ISAAC MATLACK, b. March 15, 1708/09, New Jersey; d. 1767, Waterford Township, Gloucester County, New Jersey; m. REBECCA BATE, May 28, 1733, Waterford Township, Gloucester County, New Jersey; b. March 11, 1709/10, New Jersey. iii. JOHN MATLACK, d. 1775, Haddonfield, Gloucester County, New Jersey; m. HANNAH SHIVERS, January 13, 1736/37, Gloucester County, New Jersey; d. 1790, Haddonfield, Gloucester County, New Jersey. Children of JOHN MATLACK and MARY LEE are: iv. KEZIAH5 MATLACK, b. November 20, 1722, New Jersey; m. BENJAMIN HERITAGE, February 28, 1742/43, Gloucester County, New Jersey; b. September 2, 1715, Chester Township, Burlington County, New Jersey; d. May 9, 1763, Chester Township, Burlington County, New Jersey. v. MARY MATLACK, m. (1) JAMES ROBERTSON; m. (2) JOAB HILLMAN, April 18, 1761, Gloucester County, New Jersey; b. October 23, 1725; d. 1776. vi. ABIGAIL MATLACK, m. THOMAS STOKES, August 12, 1741; b. September 5, 1711. vii. BATHSHEBA MATLACK, d. November 1, 1760; m. EZEKIAL LIPPINCOTT, April 12, 1756, Evesham Friends' Meeting, Evesham Township, Burlington Co., N. J.; b. April 19, 1732; d. January 15, 1778. viii. LYDIA MATLACK, m. BENJAMIN GRAISBURY, December 17, 1767, Gloucester County, New Jersey. ix. ESTHER MATLACK, d. 1795; m. (1) JONATHAN FRENCH, March 12, 1744/45; b. January 27, 1722/23; d. 1778; m. (2) VESPASIAN KEMBLE, 1774. x. HANNAH MATLACK, m. JOHN MAXEL; d. December 28, 1787. xi. BENJAMIN MATLACK, d. 1774, Gloucester County, New Jersey; m. JANE CHEESEMAN, December 19, 1754, Gloucester County, New Jersey; b. December 22, 1734. xii. EPHRAIM MATLACK, d. 1778, Chester Township, Burlington County, New Jersey. xiii. SARAH MATLACK, m. (1) JOHN ROWAND, August 8, 1744, Haddonfield, Gloucester County, New Jersey; b. Waterford Township, Glouster County, New Jersey; d. Abt. February 1760, Waterford Township, Glouster County, New Jersey; m. (2) JOSEPH BROWNING, March 16, 1761, Pennsylvania.

The following were from the Lancaster Library Lancaster Penn. Penn Marriage licenses Oct 1771 Amos Matlack to Hannah Trager Deaths: Matlack Caleb 1/3 1832 Elizabeth 9/11 1835 Mary 9/18 1838 Rebecca 3/5 1845 Marriages: 1771 (Nov) Elizabeth Matlack to John Knox. Penn Vital Records. Deaths Timothy Matlack Phil.. 4/13/1828 near 98 Re of Baptism, Marriage and Death. Wpm Mat lack of Charleston S C and Hannah Carmalt of Phil Thursday 22 March 1787. In Memory of Timothy Matlack born 26 Apr 1734. Died 14 Apr 1829 Age 94 Yrs 11 Month 10 Days. Penn Dutch Marriages. Matlock John to Catharine Fight 11 Sep 1834. Whitpan Reform Church Matlock Joshia born NJ to Jeane Herman born Phil. 1743. American Marriage records before 1699: Mattock Henry and Diana Souther 3 Mar 1698 Boston. Mattock Samuel and Ann Marsh 12 Feb 1688 Charleston Mass. Matocke Mary and Samuel Browne 9 Jul 1661 Boston. Matlack Wm and Mary Hancock 1682 Burlington Co NJ. Rev War Pension: Medlock Mary for Richard Pvt # 4477 #0 Apr 1854. The following are from the Harrisburg Library, Harrisburg Penn. Wife of William Matlack Susannah Gay or Jay. Marriages and deaths from newspapers: Matlack Sibyl Dau of Timothy Matlack 21 Jan 1792. Matlack Timothy to Mrs Elizabeth Cooper 19 Aug 1797. Wells Richard to Rebecca Matlack 30 May 1799. Mrs Matlcck wife of Timothy 16 July 1791. Smith Wm to Ann Matlack Dau of Josiah Matlack 3 Jun 1800. Might as well add some other material from the same Library. Early Tenn Tax List: Medlock Charles Green Co 1804, 1805, John Green Co 1799, Washington 1811, Williamson 1810 St Peters New Kent Co: Wm Son of John Medlock baptised 19 July 1702, George Son of John Medlock baptised 3 June 1701, Thomas son of John Medlock Jr baptized 21 Nov 1703. Ann wife of John Medlock died 23 Mar 1699-1700. Medlock John Botentourt Co Va Reynolds Dist 1785. Robert Harris Reg ofg Granville Co NC 24 Mar 1769 Matlock John, Samuel, Nicholas and Henry. OK I think that is all I have for now. Sam

Wanda That’s correct. John Matlack married Hannah Shivers, daughter on John Shivers and Mary --?—, on 13 January 1736/37. Isaac Matlack married Rebecca Bate, daughter of Joseph Bate and Mercy Clement, on 28 May 1733. Curt

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAz.2ACEB/471.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: carol i have quite a bit of info madison county ms matlocks,i tring to put it together rather confusing.charles matlock died and was burried on johnson island pow camp.these matlock came from franklin county tn to madison county to de soto county to woodruff county ar then to jefferson ar back to shelby county tn heck of a circle over160 years kirk matlock;

Wanda Jacob Matlack was one of three son's of John Matlack and Hannah Horner. The onter two were both my ancestors, John and Isaac. Curt Miller

Curt, Thank you!... You have really been a big help.. I appreciate the additional information that you have sent. I was on the right track just haven't researched the NJ families enough to really fit them together. Takes a lot of time. Looks like you really have a handle on it. Wanda

Curt, Thank you for the children of John and Mary Lee. I thought Benjamin was but did not know of the others.Great.. .. Thanks! Per Asa Matlack's work..Benjamin and Jane had a son Timothy Matlock. (I can not prove this connection) But Timothy went to VA. Looking at marriage Timothy Matlack married Hester Eldredge in 1785 in NJ. Timothy is found in Culpeper Co, VA in 1787. His will was probated in Culpeper Co, VA in September 1794. He died about the age of 31. After his death on the 1810 census there is a Hester Matlock and Joseph Matlock in Culpeper Co, VA. I would suppose that this Hester is Timothy's wife and that Joseph would be her son (1850 census says he was 68 born about 1782 but Timothy and Hester didn't marry until 1785... So this 68 in 1850 could be off a few years). They are listed as Matlock's By 1820 Hester is still in Culpeper Co. Then Joseph Mattack is found in Orange County, VA. 1830 Joseph and a son William are in Preston Co, VA (later became WV). Hester Matlock is listed as Ester in Culpeper. Also listed in Culpeper are an older Samuel Mattock and Nolly. I believe that Samuel was the Asa Matlack's ancestor. They are not listed together so do not know if they are related in any way. By 1840 Joseph that was married to Sarah is in Preston County, VA and looks like two sons William and Joseph are living there. Ester or Hester is still living in Culpeper Co. Could it be that Joseph Matlick, Mattack, or Matlack is son of Timothy and Hester instead of Joseph born 1753 (Kirk's line). Let me know what you think. Wanda

Curt, Thank you! Are John and Isaac the ones that married Shivers and Bate? Did John & Hannah also have a son Benjamin that married Jane Cheeseman? Or was he Mary Lee's son? Wanda

Joe It would be great to have someone with the Matlack name and a well documented ancestry submit a DNA sample. I saw where you posted a request for DNA testing on the Matlack board at genealogy.com. Did you post a message on the Rootsweb Matlack message board? It may reach some people that don’t follow the genealogy.com board or the Matlock message list. There appear to be some other Matlock lines in Cropwell Bishop. How about getting some English Matlock’s to do the test? Curt Miller

Joe, Don't know if this will help you on the George Matlack and Jane Hall. I have that George and Jane Hall married 7 Nov 1836 St Giles Church, Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England. Notice that after their marriage these children were born. My records doesn't state parents or the parish... Notice that I have stated probably at St. Giles in my files. BIRTH: Abt 1638, John Matlock Christening: 9 Sep 1638, Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England (probably St. Giles where his parents married) BIRTH: George Matlock, 18 Oct 1642; Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England (probably St. Giles where his parents married) BIRTH: Dorothy Matlock, born Abt May; Christening: May 1644; Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England (probably St. Giles where his parents married) BIRTH: William Matlock born Abt June 1650; Christening: June 1650; Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England (probably St. Giles where his parents married) BIRTH: Thomas Matlock born 25 Dec 1652; Cropwell Bishop, Nottingham, England (probably St. Giles where his parents married) If anyone has where the records came from I would love to know the Church. The lady that sent these to me sent me a copy of a church. I think it might have been St. Giles... Will have to search thru my papers to find out for sure. From my understanding this Thomas born 1652 had a son William in New Kent County, VA born 1689. Joe... John son of William Matlack had 2 wives...possibly more. Do you know who the Jacob's mother was.. .Hannah Horner??? or Mary Lee???? Great news! Wanda

Hi Guys Is this fun or what??? From these new results we can draw some facts and make some speculations. One: Kirk's line of the Matlick's of Pennsylvania, Missouri and West Virginia are directly related to the Matlock's of Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri and the Medlock's of South Carolina and Missouri. (Welcome to the family cousin Kirk). In fact the first four of the family groups listed below are, for those lines represented, related. Period full stop. As more and more (I hope now for the twisting of more arms further back) tests are submitted for those lines the more substantial the evidence becomes. Two: We can, until further testing is returned, only speculate on were the relationship falls. And we can proceed by inverse reasoning. William Matlock of 1702 and Virginia works for the Matlock and Medlock connection but Kirks family does not "know of " him or his family. His father John Matlock (OK sometimes Medlock) of 1683 has some family members who have dropped of the earth and could be the link but Kirk's family calls for a James Matlock and no James is yet unaccounted for. We must then, as Kirk's family records look to the Matlack's of Pennsylvania and New Jersey and William Matlack of abt. 1648 because Kirk's next generation calls for a Joseph Matlack. Are there any Matlack families that are not researched and or published? Yes see below. Would James or Joseph have had reason to leave New Jersey? Sure if he had married out side the faith or perhaps was a Tory. After all William Matlack's family seems to pretty much held to the faith and his grand children were involved in the Revolution. Three: We can now state two further family facts that, while they await further testing, I have confidence. 1. Kirk's DNA is further evidence that William of New Jersey and John of Virginia are brothers. This is further supported by Curt's careful and thoughtful work on the Cropwell Bishop records and supports in the main the Reed letter. 2. We need to look at the families of George Matlock of 1606 and Jane Hall for the link and lost family groups or perhaps even one or two Generations back. Three: We can further state and reasonable so that JC, Leonard, Robert, and MJ are related but at perhaps that generation further back than George and Jane. Four:: Haplogroup R1b and Haplogroup R1a. This kind of work is helpful for generations of 10,000 years ago and explains the family's love of horses. Curt your letter arrived this week and I have read it with interest, but have not had the time to put down all of my thoughts. I will try to get it out next week. Ok guys take a shot...What do you think?? Joe Matlock Matlick" <matlick@cheerful.com> 6/30/2004 10:15:17 AM >>> Folks,Wanted to let you know that I received an email stating my DNA results were in and online. I've gone to the Family Tree DNA website and looked at my results and have signed up for YSearch and 'uploaded' my results. This should come into play for the Medlock/Matlock testing, as my results exactly matched 12/12 for Ray Kennard Medlock, Joe W. Matlock, Albert Ronell Medlock, Robert Lee Medlock and Samuel Willis Medlock - and also exactly matched 25/25 for Joe W. Matlock, Albert Ronell Medlock and Samuel Willis Medlock. It certainly is an interesting world we live in!!! If there's something else I need to do to make the results available or someone else I should contact, please let me know.Cheers!KirkHi Joe Does the Matlack/Matlick DNA results cement the relationship between the New Jersey/Pennsylvania Matlacks and the Matlocks. It would still be helpful to get someone with the Matlack surname to give a DNA sample. If William Matlack in New Jersey and John Matlock in Virginia were not brothers, it looks like they shared a close common ancestry. Curt Miller -- From: <BA044@aol.com> To: <Joe.Matlock@state.tn.us> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:43:46 AM Subject: Re: [MATLOCK-L] Re: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA25 Test Match Hi If your asking about the new 100% Match Its Samuel of Edgefield SC who I think is the son of Hescott son of who I thought was son of William of 02... With the 100% match do you think Im right? KitName* H a p l o3 9 33 9 01 93 9 13 8 5 a3 8 5 b4 2 63 8 84 3 93 8 9 | 13 9 23 8 9 | 24 5 84 5 9 a4 5 9 b4 5 54 5 44 4 74 3 74 4 84 4 94 6 4 a4 6 4 b4 6 4 c4 6 4 d4 6 0G A T A H 4Y C A I I aY C A I I b4 5 66 0 75 7 65 7 0C D Y aC D Y b4 4 24 3 812569Samuel W MedlockR1b132515111115111211131330179101111251519291515161711111923161517183537111214350Albert R MedlockR1b1325151111151112111313301791011112515192915151617 14482Joe W. MatlockR1b1325151111151112111313301791011112515192915151617 20569Kirk B MatlickR1a1325151111151112111313301791011112515192915151617 16510J C MedlockR1a1325151111151112111313301791011112515192915151516 14380Leonard MedlockR1a1325151011151112111313301791011112515192915151617 13801Robert Lee MedlockR1a1325151111151112111313301691011112515192915151617 14104M. J. MedlockR1b1324151111151112 111313301791011112515192915151617 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Descendants of Jacob Matlack Generation No. 1 1. JACOB6 MATLACK (JOHN5, WILLIAM4, GEORGE3 MATLOCK, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1715. He married RUTH WOODOTH. Children of JACOB MATLACK and RUTH WOODOTH are: i. JACOB7 MATLACK. ii. MARY MATLACK, m. JOHN NEWMAN. iii. RUTH MATLACK, m. THOMAS PARKER. iv. PATIENCE MATLACK, m. WATSON. v. HANNAH MATLACK, m. JAMES ROWAND. Descendants of Jacob Matlack Generation No. 1 1. JACOB6 MATLACK (JOHN5, WILLIAM4, GEORGE3 MATLOCK, JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1715. He married RUTH WOODOTH. Children of JACOB MATLACK and RUTH WOODOTH are: i. JACOB7 MATLACK. ii. MARY MATLACK, m. JOHN NEWMAN. iii. RUTH MATLACK, m. THOMAS PARKER. iv. PATIENCE MATLACK, m. WATSON. v. HANNAH MATLACK, m. JAMES ROWAND. Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotypeHaplogroup R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have originated in a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in Slavic populations of Eastern Europe

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MATLOCK Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAz.2ACEB/493 Message Board Post: MATLOCK_Hershel_W_1914-1967.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Fountain Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 80,186 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

Hi Joe Does the Matlack/Matlick DNA results cement the relationship between the New Jersey/Pennsylvania Matlacks and the Matlocks. It would still be helpful to get someone with the Matlack surname to give a DNA sample. If William Matlack in New Jersey and John Matlock in Virginia were not brothers, it looks like they shared a close common ancestry. Curt Miller

Wow Joe! Another 100% Match on 25 markers.. This is so interesting... Your matching with a Joseph Matlack/Matlick that was from New Jersey.. whose family later went to West Virgina, The best I can tell the family was in West Virginia as early as 1840...Heres the link to the DNA results, Ive added the newest information.. Brenda _DNA RESULTS_ (http://www.ba044ancestry.com/Matlock/DNA%20RESULTS.htm) _http://www.ba044ancestry.com/Matlock/DNA%20RESULTS.htm_ (http://www.ba044ancestry.com/Matlock/DNA%20RESULTS.htm)

Ok, I'm perplexed about the DNA tests again. Why are there two different Haplogroups when the nubmers are the same??? Janet

Does anyone know who these matches are? Joe Matlock >>> <info@familytreedna.com> 6/30/2004 1:35:10 AM >>> You have a match! A Y-DNA25 match has been found between you and another person(s) in the Family Tree DNA database. You and the other person(s) have matched in 23, 24 or 25 loci, which means that there is a 99.9% likelihood you have a common ancestor. Please remember to add your results to www.Ysearch.org, the FTDNA sponsored public database. On the right side of your personal page you will see an explanation and a link for the upload. The link below will take you to your Family Tree DNA Login. From there you can see a list of your matches. Newer matches will be at the top of the list. Additional emails will be sent to you as we find new matches between you and your "genetic cousins." Family Tree DNA http://www.familytreedna.com/ftLogin.asp?kit=14482&code=B3644

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Matlock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAz.2ACEB/471.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I believe there are 2 Charles H. Matlock's in this family. My Charles Henry Matlock b 1814 in TN migrated to Madison Co., MS along with James, William, John D. (married Caroline McGinty in Madison Co., MS 1834)., James and Sarah Matlock (married James Mercer Wadlington in Madison Co., MS 1831). The other Charles Henry Matlock was b 1831. I believe he was killed in the civil war up north and then reburied on the MS & TN line around Desoto. Sound like your line?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nAz.2ACEB/471.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ihave quite a bit of info on charles h matlock,would like to hear from you