For what it's worth, Ward 12, in 1860, was in South Boston. My Flynn family lived on F Street in Southie in 1860 - in Ward 12. I enjoyed the history of your family and wish I could help. One of these days I'm going to renew my membership in the NEHGS, then maybe I can look somethings up for you. By the way, I really enjoyed all the rhetoric about the "Bawstin" accent. I put them all into my word program and printed them out. My son who lives in CA still teases me about my Boston accent. Pat (Bostonian now on Cape Cod) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph T Chetwynd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MASUFFOL] Catherine Kidney and Jerimiah Donovan > Dear Masuffol subscribers, > > I am fairly new to this website, and as such, do not fully understand > how it works. That said, I would appreciate any help in trying to learn > anything about a Catherine Kidney who lived in the section of Boston now > the site of the South Station, on Cove Street and / or Cove Place, at > least in the 1853, when she placed an advert in the Boston Pilot > Newspaper's ' Missing Friends " columns, looking for her brother , > William Kidney from Kinsale, Parish of Clountead, County Cork, Ireland. > He was supposed to have immigrated sometime in 1849 ( into Boston ?) and > then , presumedly, moved to New Hampshire. > > On Oct. 1853, Catherine Kidney,address No. 9 Cove St., Boston, purchased > a plot in the North Cambridge Catholic Cemetery, and interred one Ellen > Kidney, 49. I do not know if she was Catherine's sister, mother, aunt or > cousin. On the same day, an adjacent lot was also purchased by Mr. > John ( and wife, Catherine [ Devine ] ), then of Charlestown, Mass. > > In the 1850 Boston Census there is listed ( # 280 ) Patrick Kidney, age > 35, b. IRE Wd 2, his wife, Catherine,( m.n. unk ) age 25, b. IRE, and a > son, Dennis, age 1 , b. Mass. > > > In the 1860 Census, ( Hs # 354 ), husband, Patrick , is not listed, > although Catherine, ( presumedly a widow ) now 35, and son, Dennis, now > age 11, are listed. They are then living in Wd 12. > > > On August 19, 1860, Catherine Kidney ( m.n. unk ) married one Jeremiah > Donovan, a laborer, age 34, second marriages for both, at St. Peter and > Pauls RC Church in South Boston, not far from the Ward 2 area of Cove > Street. Witnesses were John Gleeson, a clerk at Federal St. cor High > St., Boston and of So. Boston, and Ann Murphy, a widow, of Federal St., > Boston. > > What is of particular interest to me is a possible Kidney family > connection to my great grandfather, John Donovan, of County Cork, Ire; > and his wife, Catherine [ Devine] Several years ago when I was asking > my mother about our family tree on her side, she said that she recalled > the name KIDNEY being mentioned, but did not know the connection, if > any. Just recently, by some great act of Providence, I quite by > accident came across a listing in the City of Quincy Death registry for > May 22,1863, the names of John and Catherine Donovan, ( East Quincy, > later called Wollaston ) for a stillborn infant, who was buried ' at > Cambridge, Mass.'., > > John and Catherine [ Devine ] were married at St. Peters Church, Concord > Ave., West Cambridge, Mass., on May 9th, 1858. Among their wittnesses > were a James Donovan and Johanna O'Connell. Father Mannassas P. > Daugherty presided over the wedding. John Donovan was then listed as a > blacksmith. They may have been living in West Cambridge, later renames > as Arlington. He may have worked for the, then, newly established horse > street railway, shoiing horses. > > In 1861, while living in Charlestown, they had their first child, a son, > named Jerimiah W. , on Feb. 24, 1861. He was baptised at St. Mary's > Church. Sponsors were Denis Devine and Margaret Donovan, possibly > related to both John and Catherine. Sometime soon after the birth of > their son, they removed to Quincy, where John was employed as the / a > blacksmith for the newly established Quincy Horse Railway that ran from > the Penn's Hill area to Neponset and later to Field's Corner, Dorchester. > They lived in the , then, unpopulated section of Quincy, later to be > named Wollaston. His house was adjacent to the car barns on " the > Turnpike , " now called Hancock Street, opposite Fenno Street, now. > After the demise of the Horse Street Railway in 1868, John removed to > the sparsly populated section of north Quincy, then called Atlantic. He > then purchased a small lot in the Neponset Village area and established > himself a blacksmith- horse shoeing stand there, retiring in the 1890's, > the stand then being operated by his son, Jeremiah, and also along with > a new son in law, Patrick Murphy, from Macroom, Ireland, who married > their daughter, Catherine. > > Catherine Donovan died in 1892, at age 62 years. John survived till age > 85 years, dying in 1910. He was then " the oldest resident in Atlantic > section of Quincy," and was descibed as " a pioneer blacksmith for the > old horse street railway." > > I pursued this lead with the Archdiosces of Boston Archives at Brighton > and was stunned and pleased to find the citation of the purchase of the > cemetery lot at West Cambrige Cath. Cem., next to the Kidney family > plot, by John ( and Catherine ) Donovan. For some unknown reason, if I > correctly understand the historic document, the infant was interred in > the Kidney family plot, not the Donovan plot. Nevertheless, here was my > first confirmation that there was some kind of connection between the > DONOVAN and the KIDNEY families. I cannot discount, nor can I affirm , > that the Jeremiah Donovan who married Catherine Kidney ( m.n. unk ) in > 1860, is or is not related to my great GF, John. There was no shortage > of ' Donovans ' around back then, at least not in Boston, and more > than a few were named John and Jeremiah. > > I have hit a dead end with Catherine (m.n. unk ) Kidney Donovan, as > well as for Jeremiah Donovan, and Catherine's son, Dennis. I also do not > have citations on the death of Patrick Kidney, sometime prior to 1860. > Of course, I have no information about Jeremiah's late wife ( name unk ), > either. > > This is my only thread, so far, as to the possible connection of these > two families. I would be most grateful to anyone who might provide me > with any further information about these people, eg, when and where they > lived, died, appear in later census, etc. > > I hope this information is of more help than bother to anyone who will > kindly follow up on this request. Thankyou in advance, > > Sincerely, > > Joe Chetwynd > Pembroke, MA > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >